So i purchased a tablet, that im pleased with and i purchased windows 8 pro.
My question is, IF i bought a Surface with Windows RT, could i
install my Windows 8 Pro?
Is there a bios on the surface, to be able to do this?
collinjm01 said:
So i purchased a tablet, that im pleased with and i purchased windows 8 pro.
My question is, IF i bought a Surface with Windows RT, could i
install my Windows 8 Pro?
Is there a bios on the surface, to be able to do this?
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No, Surface RT is an ARM processor. Windows 8 Pro is an x86 architecture operating system and will not run on ARM processors. Wait til early next year for the Windows Surface Pro which will be x86 and support what you are asking but with a higher price tag.
There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
A very good tablet, but the system takes up more memory.
I want buy the Teclast x80h too. I'm waiting for the answers too!
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II (without 3G, as I prefer to use my 4G mifi).
Overall, the build quality is excellent and the screen is very close to what you'd get on the iPad Air. The large 4:3 form factor also works better for tablets as I like surfing in portrait.
Dual boot works well, you just reboot and choose which OS you want to use. To switch, just shutdown and restart. The only thing I'd say is a problem will be the eMMC size of just 32gb. I have about 7gb free on each side of the system. You can partition a microSD with ext4 and use Link2SD on the android side, and move most things to the microSD on Windows. But if you use a lot of Windows Store apps, they can't be installed on removable media.
Performance is OK for most general tasks. Remember it's an Atom processor, so don't expect it to fly on 3D games. Not much of a gamer myself, so it doesn't matter much to me. I've thrown all sorts of videos at it and so far they all played pretty smoothly.
Teclast recently sorted out the Play Store bug with an update, so both sides of the system works as expected. I've experienced some freezes and thermal event message on Android, but they don't happen often and only when I was trying to play a 3D game.
I'd say get one with a larger screen if you plan on using Windows. The faster Z3736F processor on the X98 and X10HD can certainly be felt.
There is that Onda v891w that was released not so long ago for 25$ more than X80h. It is not Dual OS, it is only Windows 8.1, but it is a better alternative for X80h as far as specifications are concerned. I am more interested in Windows. In fact, I do not need the Android. I thought it was a bonus on X80h, but after all I wouldn't use it at all. Anyway, V891w has bigger 8.9" FULL HD IPS screen, the all the other specs are the same. But how reliable is Onda? I know that Teclast is a safe buy, but can anybody tell me about Onda's products? It is a relatively high-end tablet. Please owners of Onda provide some infos and experiences, problems etc
I've got my eye on the recently announced Onda V919 3G Air, it looks an exact copy of the teclast but with 64gb storage for about the same price. Their dual OS switching method looks a little more polished also... still I'll be waiting on reviews..
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There are already couple of dual boot - able operating systems (OS) tablets on the market especially the well-known Teclast tablets with their Air 3G, Air II, X10HD, X80h and I am sure they will update their entire range of tablets with Dual boot OS, perhaps the other chinese manufacturers, but that does not matter as Teclast is the very best chinese brand for tablets. (quality-wise)
In consequence, I have a couple questions/suggestions. I want to buy Teclast X80h over any other tablets because it is extremely cheap (119$), it is dual OS and it is high-quality as any other Teclast tablets (for such low price!).
1. Are there any bugs with the dual OS that come from the factory? Do I have to be aware of it in any way? There is also a single Windows 8.1 OS for 115$, so if it is a problem with the Dual-OS, then I can go for the simple version.
Reply on X98 Air 3G Dual: All major bugs were resolved with an OTA update on 20141225. The hardware issue still remains for some batches. System crash on playing GPU intensive 3D games. but this is not specific to Dual Boot models. It appears in all. There is n fix yet. But you may avoid this by buying it from Authorized seller on AliExpress. They confirmed that fresh batches don't have this issue.
2. How's the experience with the Dual OS? Does both OS work flawless or is there sacrificed anything?
Reply: It works great. Nothing is sacrificed except for the Disk space used by each OS.
3. Can you single boot? For instance, if I want to run only Win8.1, can I just boot Win8.1 and if I want Android I just restart the tablet and choose Android?
Reply: Yes, you can single boot. The information "switch with button at bottom" is not true because both OS runs separately never simultaneously.
4. How much space is left in the internal memory on a 32GB eMMC? (~approximately) - Just out of curiosity because I heard Teclast supports on Win8.1 microSD cards up to 128GB with no problem.
Reply: Check the attachments of this post.
I know there are other threads especially on Air 3G tablet, but there are over 400 pages. I thought it would be easier to make a thread and those who had experience to share their opinion with us, those who are willing to buy Dual OS tablets.
For me, the Android version is not a must. I need the Windows mostly, but if there's a Dual OS version for 5$ more, why not get it. This is why I created the thread, so we the newbs get help. Any other discussion can be talked, I made this thread as a general discussion one, where people talk about ideas, tweaks, big deals, recommendations, ask for help etc
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You may think that Android and 3G are not must, but soon you may have to change this opinion when you run into a situation like you are outside at a place with poor wifi or a special offer running on just Android apps !!
That's just my opinion.
The main drawback with dual OS is the storage space. So in that way, ONDA 919 Dual Boot is better, but we don't know how it fares in other areas. Like it has a 6000mAh battery which is sure to fail you.
The 9.7 inch models gives you an edge because they have Intel Z3736F which turbo boosts to 2.16 GHz.
smartchip said:
I recently got the Teclast x98 Air II.
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Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
brajomobil said:
Hi,
Does the usb behave like on PC?
Can you plug USB powered hub and connect: Mouse, keyboard, usb printer , and all working ?
Tnx in advance.
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YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
After reading many reviews, I think i'll be purchasing one aswell. I can live with the limited storage as I'd be mainly using it for office, reading, occasional movie watching and writing notes. If you are going to buy, MAKE SURE you buy it from the authorized seller as other sellers may have older models which contains the bugs and glitches. It may be a few dollars more expensive but is worth it to not have the troubles.
Aside from this, a question I want to ask is that is there any warranty at all for international buyers -- I'm in Canada.
There seems to be a misconception whether or not the X98 both 3g non 3g models have gps or not. Can anyone clarify this?
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YEs you can. Check videos on youtube. There are lots of them. You can charge it, use keyboard,mouse and whatever you want simultaneously with a OTG cable and a USB port hub. I recommend you a 3.0 one with at least 4 usb ports.
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Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
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Thank you very much. Do you know is it possible to install win8.1 x86 over UEFI. I have found only x64 tutorials. I need x86 windows.
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Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
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Can't really answer that. Ask the user Hendrickson. He's the master. He'll give you any info you want.
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Thank you. I have spent 4 days searching the internet and fiddling with virtual machines and UEFI boot. And this is the conclusion !
You can't install or boot x86 vhd machine on x64 cpu with UEFI x64
With bios boot you can have x86 and x64 machines. Too bad this tablet don't have legacy boot
Hi guys,
I couldn't find searching but is there any smartphone yet that support full desktop os? like Linux mint or windows 7?
or may be a list of such phones!!
I mean now that we have tons of phone with high configurations like Snapdragon 800 based phone (2.2 GHz quad core cpu, 2GB ram, 32GB rom). installing desktop os should be just matter of someone to figures out boot-loader properly. if ARM architecture is a problem, then we have tons of phone with x86 based cpu as well. (like Asus ZenFone 5 or 6 with Intel Z2580) these cups supports full x86 instruction set MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3 and all that.
the reason i'm looking for is, to use it as Single Board Computer. I mean a cellphone is much painless to to carry then a HummingBoard or Banana Pi box. there are bunch of commercial Single Board Computer that comes with desktop os it like "utilite2" but none of them are as slick and stylist as a modern cellphone! plus phone has its own power source and cellular wireless. and not mention its own display for the case when i'm unable to find a monitor.
so any suggestion?
thanks
BTW, each forum (including device forums) has a Q&A/Help/Troubleshooting section where questions should be asked. I expect a mod to move this one here soon.
Before we start this off, I just want to say I understand a lot of Android devices have an ARM processor in them. Mine has an Intel Atom.
I have the Dell Venue 8 tablet with the Intel Atom processor in it. Through doing research, I've found the Dell Venue 8 pro has a slightly better version of the same processor I have. So, it got me wondering if my tablet could run Windows on it as well. I've done a lot of research, but came up dry for Android devices that don't have an ARM processor in it. So, with the assumption that the specs are compatible, my question is this: is it possible to make my tablet, and others like mine, dual boot Android and Windows, if you could break the boot loader into installing it? I know you can dual boot Android and Windows on a PC and the Venue 8 pro, and a few other devices, including smart phones. The second part is would it be legal, with the purchase of a license key, to run it on this device? I don't see why it would be illegal, but ive never used a portable version of Windows, so I'm not sure.
What do you think, is it possible or a foolish man's dream?
I saw a few Intel Z8300 Cherry Trail tablets have factory dual boot Windows 10 and Android, so I bought one.
Turns out mine isn't dual boot, but Windows 10 only (my mistake)
However, these cheap (supposedly manufactured in Germany but features a "made in china" on the back) chinese tablets all seem to have pretty much the same specs.
And Cherry Trail processor are obviously able to run dual boots of windows and Android.
Do you think it could work out flashing Cube iWork10, Chuwi, or Telcast' tablets dual boot android image on this phone?
Another possible route could be flashing Android-x86, though this processor is supposedly x64. But it runs a regular Windows 10 x86.
Does this make any sense?
i think the same way.
i have a glx w11. there's many device similar it.
this is glx w11 details that shares by someone else:
http://hamid-eftekhari.ir/download/w11/Computer Report1.htm
http://hamid-eftekhari.ir/download/w11/sandra.pdf
Please help. I also have z8300.