aosp vs tw battery - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Why is it that when I'm using an aosp ROM whether it is carbon ROM or liquid smooth, the screen on time averages 1.5 hours, but when I use touch wiz based clean ROM it is 2.5 hours? Is it because of kernels or just that aosp isn't natively from Samsung?

dragon1357 said:
Why is it that when I'm using an aosp ROM whether it is carbon ROM or liquid smooth, the screen on time averages 1.5 hours, but when I use touch wiz based clean ROM it is 2.5 hours? Is it because of kernels or just that aosp isn't natively from Samsung?
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That's a tough one to figure out, and I'm not sure I understand completely... are you saying that you have calculated/measured your screen-on time to be exactly the same on both AOSP and TW (using a stop watch/clock, etc) and yet it is giving you this discrepancy? If you are measuring your screen-on time outside of the phone's own timer, and this is happening, it would be the first I've heard of it.
If you're not measuring on your own and you just happened to notice a difference in your averages, well .... Maybe it's because AOSP runs (IMHO) faster, cleaner, and with less obstacles than TW causing you to need less screen time? haha ...
Let us know though if you are doing this as a controlled experiment - I'm always interested running my own tests. :good:

theresin said:
That's a tough one to figure out, and I'm not sure I understand completely... are you saying that you have calculated/measured your screen-on time to be exactly the same on both AOSP and TW (using a stop watch/clock, etc) and yet it is giving you this discrepancy? If you are measuring your screen-on time outside of the phone's own timer, and this is happening, it would be the first I've heard of it.
If you're not measuring on your own and you just happened to notice a difference in your averages, well .... Maybe it's because AOSP runs (IMHO) faster, cleaner, and with less obstacles than TW causing you to need less screen time? haha ...
Let us know though if you are doing this as a controlled experiment - I'm always interested running my own tests. :good:
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Yeah, those milliseconds sure do add up to a lot of saved time. Seems logical that aosp is sooo fast that you that you don't need to use your phone for an hour because of it.
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theresin said:
That's a tough one to figure out, and I'm not sure I understand completely... are you saying that you have calculated/measured your screen-on time to be exactly the same on both AOSP and TW (using a stop watch/clock, etc) and yet it is giving you this discrepancy? If you are measuring your screen-on time outside of the phone's own timer, and this is happening, it would be the first I've heard of it.
If you're not measuring on your own and you just happened to notice a difference in your averages, well .... Maybe it's because AOSP runs (IMHO) faster, cleaner, and with less obstacles than TW causing you to need less screen time? haha ...
Let us know though if you are doing this as a controlled experiment - I'm always interested running my own tests. :good:
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Oh, no, I'm talking about the battery life, not discrepancies. I checked in the battery tab of settings, display, then it says screen on time. I have used each rom for about 3 weeks, and thats the amount I noticed. In short, I get less battery life on aosp.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the main things that sure battery are screen and cell connectivity and then there are a million other smaller aspects.
Screen should really not make a difference if brightness is the same.
Radios will make a difference. I believe the different radios use different ....stuff.... on aosp therefore drawing more power.
Also tw vs aosp kernels are very different.
Keep in mine that touch wiz is ment for the gs3.
The gs3 and touchwiz are built as one. Physical and virtual (software.)
Clean ROM is a striped and slim version of the OFFICIAL software.
There is no real way to fix this other then to just go with it.
Hopefully I am correct, but I'm not 100%
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mentose457 said:
Yeah, those milliseconds sure do add up to a lot of saved time. Seems logical that aosp is sooo fast that you that you don't need to use your phone for an hour because of it.
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That's why it was a joke.
barrackOBAMA said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but the main things that sure battery are screen and cell connectivity and then there are a million other smaller aspects.
Screen should really not make a difference if brightness is the same.
Radios will make a difference. I believe the different radios use different ....stuff.... on aosp therefore drawing more power.
Also tw vs aosp kernels are very different.
Keep in mine that touch wiz is ment for the gs3.
The gs3 and touchwiz are built as one. Physical and virtual (software.)
Clean ROM is a striped and slim version of the OFFICIAL software.
There is no real way to fix this other then to just go with it.
Hopefully I am correct, but I'm not 100%
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You are correct. The radio will be the drain here assuming screen brightness and use remains similar. AOSP ROMs require a RIL workaround to use the radio (long story, Samsung/Qualcomm owns exclusive rights to the RIL) and that's why AOSP signals aren't usually as strong ... and we all know what a weak signal can do to a battery. Of course everyone's GS3 is different, but I've experienced the best battery life using the stock kernels and de-bloated TW ROMs.

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So ive been curious cause i see alot of people talking about when they root they get a new launcher then uninstall sense. What are the pros and cons of it? Does the phone run the launcher better when sense is removed? Once removed you cant bring back unless you reflash?
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Are you talking about flashing an AOSP rom after rooting or running a sense based rom without the sense launcher? If your talking about the latter, going senseless basically allows you to retain the main functionality of sense so everything should work like it did out of the box minus the bloat of the sense launcher (if you consider it bloat that is). The reason to uninstall the launcher in that case would be if you don't plan on using it at all, then you can be sure its not running in the background and such for memory savings
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For me, I get better functionality by using ADW launcher instead of Sense. I can theme it, change how many screens, set up groups in the app drawer, etc. Sense has limited options in that way.
As for speed, I think the phone runs a little smoother but it's not a huge leap for me while running NewSense. Other reasons for removing Sense is I get the internal memory space back as NewSense is a big ROM and if not careful, I get the low internal memory warning and the phone loads faster in general.
AOSP isn't as pretty as Sense(though completely customizable, only limited to the amount of time you want to spend messing around with it) but runs faster, better battery life, etc. though you can have issues with the ROM not playing nice with your hardware. Just moved back to Sense from AOSP and Sense's look is much smoother, stuff fits better, overall look is more polished. It's all personal preference, though.
Everyone one says aosp is better on battery life but that's not always true. I barely get half a day on battery running aosp and on sense based roms I always get 18+ hours
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Everyone one says aosp is better on battery life but that's not always true. I barely get half a day on battery running aosp and on sense based roms I always get 18+ hours
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Good point, everyone's phone seems to be different. For me, I would get 24hrs plus on AOSP and only 18hrs or so on Sense with heavy usage.
Every Rom runs slightly different on, every device. Almost never are two devices the same. That's why you have to experiment a bit. Find out what runs best for you, on your device, with the way you use it on daily bases. Also it takes a bit of time. You cannot just run a Rom for a few hours after you flash it, and then make your decision. It will usually take at least a half a day, to a full day before a Rom settles in. Then and only then will you be able to evaluate it. That's why it takes so long before a Rom is released, you have to run it for a few days before you really know if issues are going to arise or not. So the best thing to do is Flash a Rom you think you might like, and run it as you normally would for a few days. I personally take notes on every Rom I flash. That way I have something to refer to later on.

Which current ROM / Kernel combo gives you the MOST battery life?

If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
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"BEST OF" Threads are not allowed on XDA. It sucks, I know. Because it'd be nice if there could be a place for some discussion... a "this rom is nice but that rom has better battery life" kind of thing
CleanROM is a good ROM, and Scott is an active developer here in the forums. Not sure how much better battery life you'll get from the lite version. I would imagine it'd be a lot because bloatware never helps battery life.
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i'm confused, i'm not allowed to ask people for recommendations on what ROM has given them these supposed 5-hours screen-on times? I get 2-3 hours and my brightness is at 20% with wifi on on cleanrom 3.0 and im worried I have a defective battery. what's wrong with this question?
Unfortunately XDA Rules don't allow us to say what is the "best" in a specific area. You can ask for what ROM people are running and what screen on time they are getting so that you can determine it yourself.
Even though I'm all for following the rules I'm kinda confused why this rule was ever passed. In the real world there are always "best" of things. It seems this is just an ego protecting type of rule. However it would cause people to fight and say "No I have the best" and etc. People can't handle freedom!
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If you're going to include statistics, PLEASE also try to include your SCREEN ON TIME, BRIGHTNESS, general use, wifi and lte would be good too.
I'm currently on CleanROM 3.0 and love it but thinking of switching to Lite version. worth it for battery savings? halp?
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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godfirst said:
Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I slightly want to kill you, mostly out of jealousy but also for not mentioning your brightness level, LTE on/unavailable, SYNC on/off, usage etc.
But this is enough to make me flash lite tonight after a total discharge. i'm at 44% with 1 hour 30 minutes screen on time. 10 hours 30 mins normal time at 2/10 brightness. (one notch above lowest setting)
is it possible i have a defective battery? or is Lite really that much different?
What's the procedure for switching from Standard to Lite? Backup all apps with titanium, flash dalvik and data cache, install via clockworkmod, then perform a battery calibration?
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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http://youtu.be/hbOjS0Ah7_o
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Here's a slight preview of what is to come on the lite version
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I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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It is possible on CleanRom, I have so many other apps running at the moment that I get no where near that anymore. When you look at what he is running in his screenshots besides the screen he hasnt used much else (3% talk time for example). Now I switched between all three of the cleanRoms through the earlier development and did not notice a huge drop from DE to Lite. I went back to DE because I like it stripped of sense and their is still the debloating. I use FB and twitter so I wasnt going to stay on Lite for long.
I get roughly 8-9 hours a day on 25% brightness 3hrs of screentime but as I said I generally have a lot of other apps running that drain my battery that you may not run. (WiFi on most of the time and in an LTE area). My main drain comes from commuting to work in NYC when the service keeps dropping, which i read drains your battery quicker and it def appears this way. pansi (text messaging app) tends to use a fair amount of cpu power which helps drain my battery as does Defender II (a game).
Personally unless you are going to flash the lite version it wont make that big of a difference, it will depend more on what apps/screen brightness you are going to use.
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Your correct,I don't set my screen brightness it's auto,I also don't use social apps like Facebook, etc. I do quite a bit of browsing and flashing. I've made some backups and flashed some mods and some of the apps I use don't even show up, why they don't I have no clue. I don't play mobile games though, which probably take up a lot of usage. I've had so many phones and roms over the years tell a lite ROM fits my agenda. It's still to each own. Just know I'm not just sitting and looking at my screen for over 5 hour of use lol. I'm also in and have LTE which shows in screenshots.
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soapbubble said:
I'm kind of curious about the extra stuff too with that. Sync, wifi, etc.
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Here you go
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How is this?
I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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I'm back with more lol My settings are still the same from previous post.
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any web browsing... it doesnt really show any usage, aside the screen has been on?
Yes,I just flashed the new 2.0 radio as well. I've even listen to some music. It seems that if the app hasn't used a lot of cpu power then it doesn't show up.I
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I found the cleanroms have really great battery life. I gave up Samsung skyrocket because of the poor battery life but with this phone and with that rom in particular I was very impressed. With a full charge I can last all day with a good amount of use (phone calls, texts, auto syncing, and email) and still have 40% or so at days end.
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JCon0320 said:
I am running sick-sense ROM while using the performance battery profile on cpu editor. I have LTE, and auto sync on the whole time while doing some browsing, a couple of hours of tune in radio, 8 mins of calls, some txts via google voice, and a bit of music.
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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Have you tried any of the other settings (performance/battery, batterysaver)? I'm currently using cleanrom DE, but I'm a little underwhelmed by the battery life. It could be that I wiped everything and spotify/chrome/redditnews is downloading everything fresh (they have been using quite a bit of data). I guess my usage these past two days have been a little out of the ordinary.
I'm very interested with sick sense though. The battery carrot is very enticing. I'm a bit worried about the journaling though. Will it make it difficult if I want to switch back to another rom?
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I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
JCon0320 said:
I haven't tried the other profiles yet. I wanted to start off with this profile to see what this rom can really offer under the highest settings. Based on what others have said about the other profiles, the battery saver profile is where it's at if you want maximum battery life out of your phone. As far as flashing other roms and journaling, I don't have any experience doing that because this is my first rom. Also, I don't know if the disabled journaling on this rom impacts flashing other roms and am curious to know as well. Anybody knows if the disabled journaling will keep me from switching roms? I am new to this stuff so bear with me here....
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Well, in lieu of other responses, what have you found with your current settings? Everything about the same? I have mean, thats pretty good for high performance setting and heavy use, yes?

How fast are custom roms on the GS3?

IMO the stock phone is extremely fast and smooth. With 2GB ram I also haven't seen any apps being forced out of memory.
So with a custom rom, all the speed tweaks etc, what exactly is improved over the stock phone. Do apps launch faster, less lag etc? Are there any videos comparing stock vs custom (esp AOSP vs TW) ?
ECrispy said:
IMO the stock phone is extremely fast and smooth. With 2GB ram I also haven't seen any apps being forced out of memory.
So with a custom rom, all the speed tweaks etc, what exactly is improved over the stock phone. Do apps launch faster, less lag etc? Are there any videos comparing stock vs custom (esp AOSP vs TW) ?
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I personally just used AOSP for about a day, switched back due to a few bugs, but it was definitely speedy quick. Faster than stock? Yes for sure, but stock is super fast as it is. As for AOSP vs TW, i'd love to stay on AOSP but i love the TW camera and just can't get over not having it You should try custom roms for each one and just see what you prefer
If you look on YouTube you will find several reviews on roms currently available for our gs3.
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At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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xsteven77x said:
At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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good post! :good:
xsteven77x said:
At this point in time they offer no advantage over stock. Hopefully one day they will but Samsung did such a great job on the stock Rom for a change that our custom roms are a little faster but with a few things broke or bad battery life or bad 3g/4g hand off.
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I agree 100%.
I have tried every ROM available at this point & I always end up going back to the setup in my sig.
I always chuckle when I read post claiming a ROM is smoother/faster/less lag etc than a completely debloated stock ROM like CleanROM or Synergy. Talk about the ultimate placebo affect......
Most have issues but many offer huge advantages from deep functionality to deep customization. If those interest you, perhaps small issues in stability or data usage are a worthwhile tradeoff. Not to mention that the simple fact that you CAN do such a thing is a very fun and educational experience about what is special with android.
Also, debloated, over clocked TouchWiz Roms like CleanRom are faster and able to be set up for greater battery savings. Without question. It's a large field! Have fun by doing, you can always go back without cost!
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The title of the thread was "...how fast..." I've posted on this before. Can we humans detect the subtle differences? Are the new roms simply a placebo effect of speed? I don't know.
What I look to are facts. The only facts we can use in comparing roms are the benchmarking tools. I have tried many different roms...Incu's, Slim's, Synergy's, Phantom, etc.....I have recently been flashing the Incubus Jellywiz roms pretty regularly, but got frustrated with some of the bugs ( more on these later ). So I went and retried the latest Slim and Synergy.
I can say. There was a perceptable difference between Slim/Synergy vs. Jellywiz. So I did a benchmark test. I tested each rom under pretty much the same conditions.
1. Flash the latest.
2. Disable the same Allshare/Samsung crap.
3. Load all my apps using Titanium.
4. Let the Rom settle for a most of the day
5. Test in the evening
No Overclocking...No other special changes.
I tested Using Antutu and Quandrant Standard....Slim and Synergy were about the same...in the high 4k's...around 4800 Antutu. Incubus' Jellywiz is always around 7800. Slim/Synergy was around 4800 in Quadrant, Jellywiz is consistantly up near 6000.
There are trade-offs / bugs / features....but...if you're looking for speed, I don't think you can find anything faster that Jellywiz.
The latest Custom has a custom overclocking kernal....for fun I bumped it up to 1800mhz and ran a 9500 Antutu. right now I'm running 192min 1200max and still pull a 7200 antutu score.
You pick:
> Speed = Jellywiz
< Bugs = Custom stock
My $0.02
CleanRom 2.1 with the CleanKernel 1.2 runs excellent for me, no problems, definitely quicker than stock, very smooth.

Your Preffered ROM? (Dec 2012)

(Nov 2012)
We have been very fortunate with a recent influx of ported ROMs and modified experiemental Kernels and want to gather people's opinions on what the best Daily Driver ROM/kernel combo is these days.
What says you!
Well when my DS died a month or so ago I was bouncing between CM 9.1 with the experimental kernel, paranoid android, and virtuous infinity (1.3.5 beta 1). Each had its own merits... cm9 is on there right now but the screen doesn't work lol.
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I am a huge fan of MikTouch and always keep a android just in case. It is probably the most stable of any Rom available.
This week I finally tried the new AOKP from SilverL. I haven't tried an AOKP before. I love all the tweaks in Rom control. It will probably be my daily driver for awhile.
Just try a few and see what you like. Good luck.
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CM 9.1. Running the R3 ROM with the R8 kernel and everything's working smooth.
I second npiper. I tried a couple of the ICS roms and enjoyed them, but after a week or two I couldn't deal with the little issues any longer and went back to the rom that hasn't let me down, MikTouch. I can't remember ever having an app fc on me with it.
MAN! That's like taking a police officer into a Dunkin Donuts and asking him to pick one favorite! :laugh:
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What says you!
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I try all of the ROMs that come out. But I always end up back on the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is super stable and everything works without having to sacrifice virgins or do anything else extraordinary.
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I try all of the ROMs that come out. But I always end up back on the Miktouch 0.7 ROM because it is super stable and everything works without having to sacrifice virgins or do anything else extraordinary.
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Lol.
Interesting, I never knew Miktouch was so preferred around here. I've always skipped over it because it was Sense and I've never been happy with stock sense. I'll maybe give it a shot this week. It's GB not ICS, right?
I'm also going to test out CM9.1 r8 and see how I fair with it compared to my (somewhat) trusty CM9 Alpha5
Paranoid Android is a very fun idea and I love having it as an option, but I'm not sure a screen our size really calls for it
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Lol.
Interesting, I never knew Miktouch was so preferred around here. I've always skipped over it because it was Sense and I've never been happy with stock sense. I'll maybe give it a shot this week. It's GB not ICS, right?
I'm also going to test out CM9.1 r8 and see how I fair with it compared to my (somewhat) trusty CM9 Alpha5
Paranoid Android is a very fun idea and I love having it as an option, but I'm not sure a screen our size really calls for it
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I'm testing out the new CM9.1r8, as well. Miktouch is indeed GB. With it I'm regularly getting 30+ hours of use with my 1900mAh battery. I'm anxious to see what I get with the new CM9.1r8. I tested the earlier r5 build of CM9.1 and just wasn't totally happy with it so I went back to Miktouch. I love the look of the ICS/Sense4 and Sense 3.6 ROMS, but none of them have the stability and battery life I need, so I end up back at Miktouch.
30+ hours sounds fantastic, but for reference how long would you say you manage to get on a CM9 ROM?
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30+ hours sounds fantastic, but for reference how long would you say you manage to get on a CM9 ROM?
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Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Im on a CM9.1 Rom So far with battery fixes and such. Really enjoying it.
strapped365 said:
Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Yeah what he said. There are users that will claim to have amazing battery life and then post screen shots of Display only accounting for like 30% of the usage.. When that's the case then you know the thing isn't on that much because it really is display that uses the most juice if you're using your phone heavy.
That said, I've had the Mugen 3600 since the day it was released and I can always get through a whole day without any worry even if i'm talking for hours, playing games whatever surfing the net and checking XDA regularly etc.. Sometimes I put the smaller batteries back in because the phone looks sharp stock but then I find myself concerned about being near a charger and I hate that feeling. I just want to plug it in while I'm sleeping and use it at will the rest of the time and with the "big boy" I totally can.
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strapped365 said:
Depends on usage really. I can get up to 40 hours out of one of my ankers with around 4 hours screen on time. Or I could get 9 hours battery life with the same usage, it just depends on how hard core you use your phone that day.
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Yea I get that, I meant to pose that question to him specifically to see how his battery life scales with the two different roms since the user is pretty much invariably the biggest drain on battery.
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Yea I get that, I meant to pose that question to him specifically to see how his battery life scales with the two different roms since the user is pretty much invariably the biggest drain on battery.
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I just loaded this CM9.1r8 ROM yesterday, so don't have any complete sense of battery life, yet. Though so far it is looking very good. I get such battery life on my phone because when I am home it does sit with the screen off most of the time. At home it connects via Bluetooth to my Panasonic cordless phones and Wi-Fi to my home network. All the voice calls I make or receive go through those cordless phones to the cellphone (my MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or other mobile). I do some texting on the phone, and of course when I go out of the apartment it isn't connected to Bluetooth. When I'm out I will use maps sometimes, apps like Friendstream and Foursquare. Oh, and when out I am almost always listening to music either stored on my SD card or streaming from Google Music or the FM radio. So, not a "hardcore" user, I guess, but I do what I need. Miktouch recently got me over 2 days of use on a single charge, but more typical is about 28-30 hours. The new CM9.1r8 is looking to behave similarly so far.
Fuzi0719 said:
I just loaded this CM9.1r8 ROM yesterday, so don't have any complete sense of battery life, yet. Though so far it is looking very good. I get such battery life on my phone because when I am home it does sit with the screen off most of the time. At home it connects via Bluetooth to my Panasonic cordless phones and Wi-Fi to my home network. All the voice calls I make or receive go through those cordless phones to the cellphone (my MT4GS is my only phone, I don't have a landline or other mobile). I do some texting on the phone, and of course when I go out of the apartment it isn't connected to Bluetooth. When I'm out I will use maps sometimes, apps like Friendstream and Foursquare. Oh, and when out I am almost always listening to music either stored on my SD card or streaming from Google Music or the FM radio. So, not a "hardcore" user, I guess, but I do what I need. Miktouch recently got me over 2 days of use on a single charge, but more typical is about 28-30 hours. The new CM9.1r8 is looking to behave similarly so far.
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I got this build before it was posted from the dev, so I have a bit more experience on the battery. I ran it for 24 hours straight without recharging, got in 2.5 hours of web browsing, another hour of wifi calling in, and the batter was at 15% when I woke up this morning (Anker 1900 mAh). Everything I've tested has worked fine. The one gotcha on the battery may be if you boot into it initially--I noticed that on the first reboot, it wasn't going into deep sleep, but after I rebooted a second time, it was clean. It may require a full battery pull for the hardware to completely reset or something. Otherwise, things are great!
CM9.1 r7 kernel and ROM. Flashing to r8 soon. My only gripe with this ROM is the camera is a little lacking, but I'd take stock AOSP over the sense camera any day. If I were to use GB though, I'd go with one of Undead9k's "senseless" ROMs.
Well this might seem obvious to most in this community, but since I spent as long as I did not updating maybe there are others out there as well...
I have found no reason to *not* update from cm9 to cm9.1 r8.
Does anyone have any opinions of our new AOKP vs CM9.1 roms?
Actually I'm using CM9.1r8 ROM, too. Although it's still soon to throw a veredict, by the moment I'm getting great battery life, and it works perfect and smooth.
The only feature I still miss is the alt/caps led/status bar indicator ;(
DEC 2012
With CM10 still in alpha, CM9 with R9 kernels, and AOKP, PACman, Paranoid Android and MIUI all updating what's your new preffered daily driver ROM?
I'll be testing CM10 tonight since my CM9 flash has recently started having problems connecting to the network for a short time every other week.

are AOSP/CM roms on par with the Sense 4 roms (like ViperXL, etc.)

hi guys,
I have been running ViperXL for the past one year. However, I have been longing for stock android for a long time. However, the last time I tried CM/AOKP (couple of months back) - the feature set was not on par with Sense 4 ROMS - mainly around driver issues.
For e.g. there were bluetooth problems, HDMI/MHL did not work, battery life was much worse, etc. I was wondering if that has gotten fixed and original android roms are on par with the Sense based roms.
FWIW - I'm not actually worried about the power features like some notification bars, etc. but basically fundamental performance and functional comparisons.
For a long time, AOSP ROMs have had as many/more features than Sense ROMs and everything works just fine. The battery life isn't quite as good, but it's acceptable.
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sandys1 said:
hi guys,
I have been running ViperXL for the past one year. However, I have been longing for stock android for a long time. However, the last time I tried CM/AOKP (couple of months back) - the feature set was not on par with Sense 4 ROMS - mainly around driver issues.
For e.g. there were bluetooth problems, HDMI/MHL did not work, battery life was much worse, etc. I was wondering if that has gotten fixed and original android roms are on par with the Sense based roms.
FWIW - I'm not actually worried about the power features like some notification bars, etc. but basically fundamental performance and functional comparisons.
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You may try the stable cm10 rom. Its good.
Cm10.1 is good, plus has a new 3.4 kernel, which in your case may not be suitable, unless few little bugs don't bother you a lot.
You can also try sense 5 roms, but then again, no Bluetooth as of now.
Try Rebeless rom. Its based on stock sense4+ but gives you an Aosp feeling.
I hope this helped. :good:
I keep coming back to sense in the end.. Little bugs here and there and the battery life is usually pretty bad. Radio problems are huge. On my college campus many of the rooms have 0 reception, forcing me to toggle airplane mode when I got out of class before I could reconnect to the towers. Caused me to miss a lot of texts and calls...
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I keep coming back to sense in the end.. Little bugs here and there and the battery life is usually pretty bad. Radio problems are huge. On my college campus many of the rooms have 0 reception, forcing me to toggle airplane mode when I got out of class before I could reconnect to the towers. Caused me to miss a lot of texts and calls...
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thats what I'm worried about - my phone is work critical to me. I need to be available on phone, chat, email all the time. Which is why I'm concerned that there is no real replacement for Sense based ROMs in terms of stability and performance. Extra features ? maybe - but that's not what I need.
If you really want to use aosp you could try one of the 4.1 ROMs. In particular, the King Kang ROM by Rohan is awesome. It never missed a beat for me, and had the great customization that aosp offers.
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IMHO if your phone is used for work you shouldn't even root it... That's a huge security risk for any data kept on your phone.
I would have a separate phone for work and for rooting.
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Not only did I root it, but I was part of the bounty that originally rooted it !
I'm not worried about blowing out my phone - that i can replace.
I just don't want a non performing phone as my daily driver.
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If you really want to use aosp you could try one of the 4.1 ROMs. In particular, the King Kang ROM by Rohan is awesome. It never missed a beat for me, and had the great customization that aosp offers.
How much battery life are you getting? Any problems with HDMI out (need it for presentations)
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I'm not running that ROM anymore, but from memory depending on use the overall battery time could be towards 20 hours or so. And I think I usually got between 2-3 hours screen on time. Always on mobile data, no WiFi.
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Personally I found that battery life was close to double on sense based Roms.
Overall sense Roms feel smoother, and aosp Roms feel faster.
YMMV.
I usually run sense based (viperxl) but get bored and will try aosp randomly . always go back to viper though
Edit: if your looking for a daily driver I would go sense based for sure.
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The_Zodiac said:
Personally I found that battery life was close to double on sense based Roms.
Overall sense Roms feel smoother, and aosp Roms feel faster.
YMMV.
I usually run sense based (viperxl) but get bored and will try aosp randomly . always go back to viper though
Edit: if your looking for a daily driver I would go sense based for sure.
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What kind of battery life do you get on sense? I can push 3 days on aokp
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What kind of battery life do you get on sense? I can push 3 days on aokp
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roughly 5 hours screen on and 20+ hours standbye.
but I would rate my usage as medium-heavy.
aosp based. (aokp included) usually get about half of that
But yeah with less usage/screen time my battery would probably last a long time

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