Hey,
I'm heading back to the US after being in SK for a bit. I'm considering getting a LG LU6200; save for the battery life, it's an amazing phone for the price. Anyway, I'm wondering if I'd be able to use it in the US.
I saw that the phone operates on the 2100 band for 3G (HSDPA), which Metro PCS and T-Mobile operates on accd. to Wiki, and the 800 band for 4G, which Sprint operates on.
Theoretically this should be possible, but I've just had a friend who's moved back to the States w/ the same phone that said something to the effect that he couldn't. But he also only tried Verizon. =/
Since most folks here probably haven't used this phone, I'm wondering whether or not you've been in a similar situation that ended in success. (ie Have you been able to use a non-US phone with US carriers?)
Also, I'm wondering whether or not this is a good idea since I'd be restricted to a single band, which I assume increases the likeliness of dropped calls/weak signals, etc.
I've asked other forums, but haven't really gotten a response.
Thanks
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I may get flamed for this but I did try and search the WIKI and the Raphael forum. I just purchased an HTC Touch Pro as someone threw me in a pool with my Kaiser still attached to me. I got it through Expansys which I believe is a company in the UK. When I turned it on I saw I was only getting the EDGE network. After doing some research now I see that I may have messed up and I may not be able to connect to the 3G network here in North America. Is this true? Can someone PLEASE confirm this for me? Is there a new ROM I can install or a radio upgrade that will allow this phone to connect to AT&T's service here in the US? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know. This phone is badass and is a huge improvement on the Kaiser. I'd love to get it to work, but the internet speed is the most important thing to me as I'm a systems engineer and tether with it almost daily for work. I hope someone can give me a definitive answer on whether or not I should send this beauty back. Thanks ahead of time for any input whatsoever!
definitive answer: NO
no 3g in USA on at&t or t-mobile
only way is to wait for the FUZE
htc said its not software its hardware!
sorry i know it sux but if u can return it and wait for the fuze, go ahead!
Aaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
That suuuuuucks! Well, thanks for your quick reply. I guess I'm going to have to see what I can do about returning this thing. Any idea what the ETA on the Fuze is?
Once again, I really appreciate your help. I've been slammed here at work so I haven't had a chance to do the research that I would normally do. I especially appreciate your definitive answer
The Fuze should be released in the next few weeks. The exact date is not known. But by the end of November is almost a guarantee.
Thanks to all!!!
Thanks again. I guess I'll wait for the Fuze. From the pics it looks like they did the same thing as with the Kaiser and removed the front camera for video phone. I guess AT&T is worried about bandwidth issues if everyone starts making video calls. Funny thing is, most people here in North America believe very strongly that we are the most technologically advanced country in the world, yet we can't seem to even compete with other countries, including third world countries like South Africa, on many things including cell phones and reception.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=420865
check this thread,complete coverage of the issue...
All post from viper are particulary informative. Still a little bit of hope...
Well AT&T isn't even setup to handle video calls (afaik), so I don't think it's something they're "worried" about.
Awesome labbbby!
Don't know why I couldn't find that thread earlier. It's exactly what I was looking for. I guess I'll wait a liiiiiittle bit. I don't want to part with this thing. Besides, I'm addicted to that damn teeter game.
lokibjensen said:
I may get flamed for this but I did try and search the WIKI and the Raphael forum. I just purchased an HTC Touch Pro as someone threw me in a pool with my Kaiser still attached to me. I got it through Expansys which I believe is a company in the UK. When I turned it on I saw I was only getting the EDGE network. After doing some research now I see that I may have messed up and I may not be able to connect to the 3G network here in North America. Is this true? Can someone PLEASE confirm this for me? Is there a new ROM I can install or a radio upgrade that will allow this phone to connect to AT&T's service here in the US? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know. This phone is badass and is a huge improvement on the Kaiser. I'd love to get it to work, but the internet speed is the most important thing to me as I'm a systems engineer and tether with it almost daily for work. I hope someone can give me a definitive answer on whether or not I should send this beauty back. Thanks ahead of time for any input whatsoever!
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So you spend God-knows-how-much on a device without researching it well enough in the first place. Wow.
Well unlocked GSM Touch Pros use 3G on the 2100mhz freq (European) and U.S 3G is on the 850/1900mhz freq (T-mobile chose the 1700mhz route..don't ask why).
Send it back and wait for the U.S version which is branded through ATT as the Fuze.
I should have said, "almost all input is welcome"
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So you spend God-knows-how-much on a device without researching it well enough in the first place. Wow.
Well unlocked GSM Touch Pros use 3G on the 2100mhz freq (European) and U.S 3G is on the 850/1900mhz freq (T-mobile chose the 1700mhz route..don't ask why).
Send it back and wait for the U.S version which is branded through ATT as the Fuze.
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I know I said I welcome ANY input. I didn't really expect the sarcasm though. I'm in the middle of moving our offices and being that I'm the IT director it's pretty demanding. I have owned the 8125 (Wizard), the 8525 (Hermes), and the 8925 (Kaiser) before this one. When my Kaiser got ruined I was forced to replace it ASAP because I need instant email/contacts/calendar, tethering, and I use it as my GPS. I figured instead of shelling out $400-$500 for a new Kaiser quickly, I may as well add a couple hundred more and get an upgrade. My mistake I guess. Normally I'm more careful but under these circumstances I didn't have the luxury. I guess thanks for the input anyway. Next time try and be a little nicer to strangers.
Interesting change
While looking at what exactly I had purchased from Expansys I saw that they touted the phone as being, "Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)". This would lead me to believe that it should be able to connect to the AT&T network here as it says it can connect to the 850/1900MHz frequency. I also looked underneath the battery to see the exact model and it's a RAPH100. I could swear I saw somewhere that this is the new North American version. I'm doing some more research and I'll post whatever I find in case it helps someone else in the future with my issue.
Sorry but almost all of us have the RAPH100 and we're all stuck with an almost useless g-note phone. It was an expensive lesson that may be salvageable if a radio antenna mod gets discovered and if not... it'll make a great paperweight.
I'm looking forward to the X1 or X1a or X1i or whatever they call it today.
Dammit
Well, I guess my ray of hope is now crushed. I can't wait around for a mod. I'm going to continue trying to send it back. I can't believe that they would say it connects to that frequency and not actually work. That's terrible. It reminds me of the whole problem with the missing drivers on the Kaiser. Time for another htclassaction.org website.
lokibjensen said:
While looking at what exactly I had purchased from Expansys I saw that they touted the phone as being, "Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
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Expansys have quoted correctly. GSM, GPRS and EDGE are all supported at these frequencies, but none of those technologies are 3G
Good luck getting a refund - it's not the retailers fault you didn't understand what you were buying
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Expansys have quoted correctly. GSM, GPRS and EDGE are all supported at these frequencies, but none of those technologies are 3G
Good luck getting a refund - it's not the retailers fault you didn't understand what you were buying
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Maybe they shouldn't sell a 3G phone in the US that doesn't do 3G. It's kind of hard in today's world to be up on every single kind of technology so one expects a company to list major issues such as this. I apologize that I'm not as knowledgeable as you about phone frequencies and protocols. I do know that there are a lot of other technical fields that I'm very knowledgeable about and would definitely try and give someone help without trying to put them down or make them look stupid because they didn't understand something that is not part of their expertise.
This rom is totally different from the UK version which I have on my D2. Notice the option to use 3G 1900/850. Does this mean the D2 has a way to access those bands in the US already in the hardware??
Wow, good eye. I switched it (WWE edition rom) to the 1900+850 one but no 3G icon for me. I know it is finnicky in my area so possibly it might work. If it does then I might not sell it after all.
please 3g.......
I know! That is exactly what I am thinking. If there is a way to turn on those bands I will hold on to this one for a bit longer. There is a chance they are different like with the X1a and X1i, but I really hope not. Once we get HardSpl I want to get my hands on that Rom.
I saw those bands. I went to AT&T store and tried a card from an employee there. NO 3G. The bands being in there do make me wonder if 3G will work but all say it is Hardware related and not Software. That is true but the Radio could have those bands but they are just disabled. Was this not the case for the diamond or something and HTC had on the website a ROM to make it QuadBand rather than triband. How it originally shipped?
The other discussion is here.
I haven't been able to find too much info on it. I found a Chinese translation for editing Motorola ESN/MEID #'s. I know there are people out there with this wonderful phone on boost. I was hoping to find out more information.
Any information leading up to me getting my phone on boost will be much appreciated.
I may even put a bounty on it.
I currently have a Samsung Transform Ultra on Boost and it is almost 3 years old. Sadly, it's now dieing and has become difficult for me to use.
I can't give up my keyboard phone. No matter what you say.
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I wasn't able to find any way to edit ESN/MEID. A user accidently deleted (somehow) his/her ESN/MEID and can't get the phone to work correctly.
I don't remember the thread but you may find it by searching all threads I've posted within this section.
There aren't very much, so it isn't that hard.
PS: I don't know what you mean with "on boost".
Loader009 said:
I wasn't able to find any way to edit ESN/MEID. A user accidently deleted (somehow) his/her ESN/MEID and can't get the phone to work correctly.
I don't remember the thread but you may find it by searching all threads I've posted within this section.
There aren't very much, so it isn't that hard.
PS: I don't know what you mean with "on boost".
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Boost is a pre-paid carrier here in the USA. They were a subsidiary of Nextel I think... Now it's Sprint.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boost_Mobile
Any Takers?
I know this thread is a year old, but I did not want to create a new one when this one already existed.
I called Boost Mobile and tried to have them swap my handset to the Photon Q, the lady said that the device was incompatible with their services.
I didn't really get that seeing that Boost Mobile still uses the CDMA EV-DO Revision A for 3G speeds.The Photon Q has this Radio/hardware and configuration. The only thing I saw that could be stopper is, I did a side by side comparison with the HTC SV One and the Motorola Photon Q on phonearena and checked the 4G LTE and the bands both phones used. The Photon Q has the 1900 Mhz band for 4G LTE while the HTC SV One has more (700, 800, 1700/2100, 1800, 1900, 2600 MHz)
although by the comparison the Photon Q may/may not receive a 4G LTE signal from Boost Mobile, it should still be compatible with 3G using EV-DO and below (1xRTT)
would anyone with more savvy than myself know of a way to get this phone on the Boost Mobile network. It is common knowledge that the Boost Mobile network is a scaled down, no roaming, Sprint network. this is a Sprint Phone. 4G aside, it should work.
The phone is not so old that Sprint/Boost will not allow it on the network. I currently use a phone older than the Photon Q with Boost Mobile and I have no issues. I just want to upgrade to this phone. and of course i am using clean ESN/MEID's
any takers?
here's my research. (remove the remark blocks)
/*phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-One-SV,Motorola-PHOTON-Q-4G-LTE/phones/7570%2C7253*/
thanks!
Bump for an unanswered question, and a good thread.
Good Luck, OP.
Maybe the Photon Q devices are not 'whitelisted'?
If your informations are correct, there is no reason not to work with boost.
Bump.
Thinking about taking my Photon Q LTE or a used Samsung S4 to Boost or FreedomPop,
Thanks.
Hey guys, noob to rooting and pretty much anything with android that's custom here,
Just bought a korean version g2 the f320k version. Phone works for making calls and sending text messages, but will not connect to their data network. Not sure if its because I do not have the 700 (lte) band range for an option on the phone when I enter the WCDMA service menu. I work for a subcontractor for AT&T and am somewhat familiar with the equipment they use. the LTE radios run off 700. UMTS and GSM is most common 850 and in higher priority areas 1900. doesn't appear that the phone supports UMTS bands either which might be part of the issue. I have done all sorts of tweaking with the frequency bands and that kind of stuff when you enter "5457#*320#" but none of my combinations seem to be working. Ive tried rooting the phone following the exact instructions on the rootjunkie videos, install seemed to have gone good, but root checker tells me i do not have root access, superuser installed during the root process, but something else must be out of date or something. Was hoping to be able to flash the phone with AT&Ts rom or something and maybe that would work. I live in the Minneapolis, St. Paul MN area...has anyone else had any luck with this version of the g2 working on US carriers? I really don't want to, but pretty much ready to give up on this phone, I've scoured this website for the past few days and cannot seem to find any solutions.
Can anyone confirm this phone, flat out, will not completely work in the US market? Please help android gurus!!! :fingers-crossed:
Hello,
I recently purchased a note 5 duos SM-N9208 from Taiwan. I was led to believe that the device was unlocked GSM, but had EV-DO capabilities. My understanding was that this would work on Verizon's network, because it had both radio chips inside. I was told by Verizon that "there is no approved way" for them to get me up and running on their network. The tech made a point of saying there is a difference between approved, and no way. This leads me to believe that something can be done. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me out. Phone is running original Rom, unrooted, and is basically useless to me right now, as I'm desperately clinging on to my unlimited data with Verizon. Is it possible to root the device, and flash the modem with Verizon note 5 baseband info? Any help anyone can offer would be very much appreciated.
XDA Visitor said:
Hello,
I recently purchased a note 5 duos SM-N9208 from Taiwan. I was led to believe that the device was unlocked GSM, but had EV-DO capabilities. My understanding was that this would work on Verizon's network, because it had both radio chips inside. I was told by Verizon that "there is no approved way" for them to get me up and running on their network. The tech made a point of saying there is a difference between approved, and no way. This leads me to believe that something can be done. I'm wondering if someone would be kind enough to help me out. Phone is running original Rom, unrooted, and is basically useless to me right now, as I'm desperately clinging on to my unlimited data with Verizon. Is it possible to root the device, and flash the modem with Verizon note 5 baseband info? Any help anyone can offer would be very much appreciated.
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Hi, and welcome to XDA!
When I looked up the specs on the Note 5 Duos, unfortunately it says nothing about CDMA. Having both "radio chips inside" can be taken two ways, in this case, this phone has the capability to handle two GSM carriers (and in this case, like most dual-sim phones, only the first SIM can do 3G/4G/LTE speeds).
Network Technology GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
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It seems the only option (if you want to use this phone), is to join a GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile, or one of their MVNO's (like MetroPCS).
Hope this helps.
joel.maxuel said:
Hi, and welcome to XDA!
It seems the only option (if you want to use this phone), is to join a GSM carrier like AT&T, T-Mobile, or one of their MVNO's (like MetroPCS).
Hope this helps.
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Thank you, Joel! I'm excited to learn as much as possible from tgis forum. I actually changed over to T-Mobile, and have been good for the most part. The problem i'm having now is related to finding a way to flash the radio to all of their Rf's. I rooted, and attempted to flash the modem and bootloader from N920T, but it failed. I am still having a hard timr understanding why the identical hardware will not accept firmware from different model numbers. Again, very inexperienced, so it may be something very obvious i dont know about. If could offer any assistance, or provide and thread links that may be useful, i wpuld very grateful. Ive been searching nonstop, reading, and still cant seem to find a way.
Rockstah said:
Thank you, Joel! I'm excited to learn as much as possible from tgis forum. I actually changed over to T-Mobile, and have been good for the most part. The problem i'm having now is related to finding a way to flash the radio to all of their Rf's. I rooted, and attempted to flash the modem and bootloader from N920T, but it failed. I am still having a hard timr understanding why the identical hardware will not accept firmware from different model numbers. Again, very inexperienced, so it may be something very obvious i dont know about. If could offer any assistance, or provide and thread links that may be useful, i wpuld very grateful. Ive been searching nonstop, reading, and still cant seem to find a way.
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Well, the hardware (particularly the modem) is not compatible, hance the failed install. You are lucky it cancelled out as you could have had worse problems on your hands.
The way i see it, you will have to wait for other regions for the Note 5 Duos to open up before you get flashing options. I would even question the need for that, if you get a decent range of bands with T-Mo (I am assuming you can get 4G).
If you want to explore further anyway, please check out this thread:
> Samsung Galaxy Note5 > Galaxy Note5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [Help Thread][Galaxy Note5] Ask Any Question, Noob Friendly
Hope this helps.
joel.maxuel said:
Hope this helps.
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It did, thank you! I get decent service (including LTE) almost everywhere. Problem is, once I get to my.house, I go completely out of service. No call.I no text. It wouldn't be a big deal, but the Taiwanese phone doesn't have a way to turn WiFi calling.
Rockstah said:
It did, thank you! I get decent service (including LTE) almost everywhere. Problem is, once I get to my.house, I go completely out of service. No call.I no text. It wouldn't be a big deal, but the Taiwanese phone doesn't have a way to turn WiFi calling.
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Aha. That and no sign of the 700mHz band (which may not be part of your phone anyway, not just hidden by the current firmware).
Since the firmware would need deep support of Wifi Calling (or VoLTE), as in more than just an App, I am afraid you will have to wait until the Duos releases into an area with that support in their firmware (and hope that, that area's firmware doesn't disable a frequency you use).
Makes scraping all the lead paint[*] off the house the more manageable task, doesn't it?
[*] I really don't know if your house does indeed have lead paint. I am assuming it's coated in something metal, or concrete, which avoids typically high frequency radio waves from entering. I never had that problem with my house (which may be strange, since it was built in the 40's), but maybe creating ways to boost the existing signal may be in order instead.