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[Q] CM7 with gapps built in?

Hi all,
on my very first flash of CM7, I had to install gapps. All worked well and I was happy.
Since then, every time I flash CM7, I get gapps already installed (yes I wiped all, yes I cleared dalvik cache, I even did the lock/unlock thing in order to clear all data).
I somehow get the feeling that my flashes are not a "clean" install.
did anyone else experience this as well?
thanks...

On your first time on CM7, wipe everything, flash cm7, flash gapps. When you want to update cm7, jus wipe cache and dalvik, then flash the updated cm7. No need to reflash gapps, no need to do a full wipe either.... unless you want to.
-Nexus S

So you mean that from now on. Gapps will always be installed? Even after full wipe/ factory settings?
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asafru said:
So you mean that from now on. Gapps will always be installed? Even after full wipe/ factory settings?
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That's not what he meant. He meant that if you are upgrading CM7, you do not need a full wipe at all.
But after a full wipe your Gapsps should be gone. It's weird that it is still there after a wipe. :S

It's still there after a wipe... is there a way to make sure I full wipe correctly?
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asafru said:
It's still there after a wipe... is there a way to make sure I full wipe correctly?
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Wipe Factory/Dalvik/Cache: Full Wipe
Wipe Factory: Removes Apps + Settings
Wipe Dalvik/Cache: Wipes the cache but your apps + settings remain.
Wiping factory will delete your Gapps.
Proper way to flash CM7:
1. Wipe Factory/Dalvik/Cache
2. Flash CM7
3. Flash Gapps
4. Flash Kernel (Optional)
5. Reboot
Proper way to upgrade
1. Wipe Dalvik/Cache (Optional)
2. Flash Kernel (Optional)
3. Flash CM7
3. Reboot

asafru said:
So you mean that from now on. Gapps will always be installed? Even after full wipe/ factory settings?
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Upgrading to newer versions will now keep all your data in tact, so gapps will be there etc.

great, I think it's all sorted out now.
just one question though, I've read that CWM dalvic cache wipe doesn't work. Is that true?
If so, what is the best way to wipe dalvic cache and do factory reset (fastboot/adb commands are also welcome..)

asafru said:
great, I think it's all sorted out now.
just one question though, I've read that CWM dalvic cache wipe doesn't work. Is that true?
If so, what is the best way to wipe dalvic cache and do factory reset (fastboot/adb commands are also welcome..)
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It works. Somebody confirmed this, the error that pops up during CWR is SD EXT.
You can check for yourself, run a logcat (search the forum) while the phones booting.

[Q] Process system is not responding. Would you like to close it?

I got this while replying to a text message...
I've been getting quite alot of these, from even various applications. It's driving me nuts!!!!
Is there any (permanent) solution for this??
ROM: Gummy
Kernel version: 3.1.10_IcyGlitch_V14-BS_I896-I897 [email protected] #1
Baseband version: T959TLJL3
I'd be forever grateful if this problem could be solved... I really love this ROM

First I would reboot to recovery, then wipe cache, in advanced wipe dalvik cache, then fix permissions. If the problem comes back , I would back up your apps, msgs, that you want, then, wipe system,cache, wipe data/factory reset, and reflash. Maybe a newer rom.
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This is a bug firmware, also sometimes a problem when using swap. I recommend flash newest ROM, they are much better.
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simple man said:
First I would reboot to recovery, then wipe cache, in advanced wipe dalvik cache, then fix permissions. If the problem comes back , I would back up your apps, msgs, that you want, then, wipe system,cache, wipe data/factory reset, and reflash. Maybe a newer rom.
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I did the first thing you reommended, it didn't work and to make matters worse, ma phone doesn't pass the boot screen....
I quickly rebooted in recovery and made a nandroid backup - followed your second suggestion but i never made a backup of ma msgs because you didn't say so in the 1st suggestion... i can load new roms but can restore from ma nandroid backup

When you wipe dalvik cache, your phone can and will take several minutes to reboot, because it's rebuilding the dalvik cache. Secondly, wiping dalvik cache and fixing permissions wouldn't cause your phone to not boot. Between my wife's and my phone, I've flashed Roms, updated, experimented, fixed, stuff, etc... hundreds of times, and never has a dalvik cache wipe / fix permissions caused the phone to not boot. Hesitant to try to help, because you seem to be blaming me..... But if you can't restore a nandroid, it could be you're on a kernel in which the nandroid backup/restore feature doesn't work, you are running an earlier ICS build.
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aduka said:
This is a bug firmware, also sometimes a problem when using swap. I recommend flash newest ROM, they are much better.
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Please elaborate... btw i have a friend tht has the same ROM and doesn't face the same issues like me :/

aduka said:
This is a bug firmware, also sometimes a problem when using swap. I recommend flash newest ROM, they are much better.
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simple man said:
When you wipe dalvik cache, your phone can and will take several minutes to reboot, because it's rebuilding the dalvik cache. Secondly, wiping dalvik cache and fixing permissions wouldn't cause your phone to not boot. Between my wife's and my phone, I've flashed Roms, updated, experimented, fixed, stuff, etc... hundreds of times, and never has a dalvik cache wipe / fix permissions caused the phone to not boot. Hesitant to try to help, because you seem to be blaming me.
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I'm sorry if i came across like that...
just that the phone is driving me nuts
ALSO.... it's the second time i am seeing where reboot take way longer than usual after restoring from a nandroid backup. I av done quite a few and reboot takes less than 10mins. I attempted one the other day and 2hrs 30mins later all i saw was the splash screen and boot animation, phone HOTT!!
This evening again, it looked as if it was going to do the same thing thing... it passed 20mins, i can't sit around waiting for that again

It sounds like a flash to stock KK4 (Full Reparation) would be your best bet. If you're already on G. B. bootloaders, I would recommend the NO BOOTLOADER version, no use flashing bootloader unnecessarily. After that, I would flash the rom of your choice, following the instructions in the O. P. line by line.
Maybe a lot more current rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300843
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duwii said:
Please elaborate... btw i have a friend tht has the same ROM and doesn't face the same issues like me :/
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Then I recommend re-flash the stock kk4 NO BOOTLOADER, format the internal sd, install the ROM again and install all the programs manually, not with the nandroid backup.
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Dirty vs Clean Flash

A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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Brian Gove said:
A dirty flash is only wiping cache and davlik then flashing your ROM....
a Clean flash is at LEAST factory reset/data wipe + wiping davlik(factory wipe takes care of /cache also)... Maybe doing a format /system also.
SO let the games begin! Which is better?! FIGHT!!
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If I switch ROM's I factory reset then wipe cache and dalvik cache. If it's a theme for example I only wipe cache and dalvik cache since the theme is suppose to be made for your ROM right?....don't see the reason to reflash the ROM as well.

Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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Il throw a vote to whichever works.. I usually dirty wipe.. If I have issues then clean it and try again.. With nightlies I tend to be fine dirty a lot, but even still I will do a clean every couple weeks just because..

why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form

So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?

xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Dirty wipe
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When I dirty flash, I wipe data cache n dalvik cache. Once I flash what I wanted, I wipe those two once again n select "fix permissions" just in case
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apet8464 said:
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
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I disagree. I believe a dirty flash also wipes system. If you are 100% certain that your ROM build effectively wipes system as part of it's install routine, then you could skip this step, however I always wipe system to be safe. This works for me and I rarely need to wipe data or sd card(s).
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xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that?
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When changing Kernels but not the ROM in a separate recovery session than a ROM flash, you don't need to "dirty wipe." Just wipe cache and dalvik. Dalvik wipe is key so that the dalvik virtual machine can be rebuilt by the new kernel.

Thanks for the info guys.

I usually dirty on nightlies until I have issues. Always clean when switching roms.
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It is always good to complete wipe when switching roms.
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What if im just switching between stock rom nandroid backups? Can I just restore from one to one? I only have two backups anyways both for stock. Never flashed a rom before
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grin0048 said:
This isn't meant to be rude or anything, I'm just honestly wondering if there's any logical reason to think this is substantively different than just not wiping data?
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I find that this method works better than just wiping cache and dalvik, since im advance restoring data over a clean flash. both ways are considered dirty flashing tho.

I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?

coldhardtruth said:
I wipe dalvik, cache and battery stats. Works like a charm thus far. Wiping data is what blows out the IMEI correct?
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Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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droidstyle said:
why do so many folks wipe cache and dalvik after they wipe data? A data wipe/factory reset wipes all three, there is no need to do anything else.
I always wipe data, flash rom, then advance restore data only from a nandroid...dirty flashing in its most elegant form
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Factory reset doesn't touch the davlik(Which I speculate(Guess) has to do more with the kernel than anything)
apet8464 said:
So we all agree that a dirty flash is just wipe cache/dalvik cache.
Do you wipe prior to re-flashing, or afterwards? Does it matter?
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This is what I meant as a dirty flash when I made the thread yes...
xxx420 said:
What about flashing a new, updated kernel for a rom you're currently using? What steps should be taken for that? For example, cleanrom 2.1 comes with cleankernel 1.1, but the kernel has been updated to 1.2 and is out as a seperate download. How would you update just the kernel that's made specifically for the rom you use?
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Usually when I flash a new kernel, or a different kernel, I just wipe the davlik cache and I am fine. There was some reboots after the first boot on the AOSP ROMs but afterwards it ran fine.
SlimSnoopOS said:
Incorrect, flashing anything is what may lead to losing your IMEI. Backup using the appropriate tools in the development section. Btw stop wiping battery stats, it's not necessary.
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SlimSnoop is correct. According to one of the developers of a very prominent ROM the IMEI issue was because our phones got confused sometimes(Randomly phone to phone) and tried to reset during a flash. The data it tried to reset was bogus, therefor losing IMEI. He is also correct far as the wiping battery stats. It's only usefull when you have really strange results with battery. Google for the real reason to use them.
Far as backing up your IMEI so you will never run into the problem of losing it.... go into your terminal (almost every ROM has a Terminal emulator)
Type this:
su
then hit enter. Grant permissions
then type:
reboot nvbackup
then hit enter. This will make your phone do some shyt and reboot, but you really shouldn't need to worry about your IMEI after this. Regardless of how many ROMs you flash or what you do or who you date or who you kiss, etc... blah blah....
This really should be the end all for the IMEI...

annoyngduck said:
Wipe data? What's that for? Is THAT why my phone won't turn on..........
Nightlies: No data wipe (yes to cache/dakvik)
New rom, even if it's the same android build: always, full wipe
Themes: No wipe at all, flash right on, right after flashing rom's. Don't like to wait for two bootups!
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New rom only when their bases are different , like going from ics to jb, or the dev says to do it (Even then Ill try it without a wipe because im lazy).
Themes I never wipe anything
Nightlies never wipe anything.
Edit: If I do have issues I then go back and wipe delvik and cache . That usually straightens out any issues and allows me to keep my setup.

tonu42 said:
Hey but you know I'm right
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Actually you're not right.
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[Q] When installing a new rom?

Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?

MyNameMikee said:
Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?
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Yes. You should always wipe.
In order.
factory reset,
format cache,
Advanced --> wipe dalvick cache,
Mounts and storage --> format system
Than flash your goodies!
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It is always best to wipe everything. Especially when you change Roms. If you are on a cm rom and you are just upgrading to the newest version you can just wipe cache & dalvik cache, flash rom, flash gapps, & reboot. I have done it this way for years & haven't had any problems. Most people prefer to wipe everything though.

TY so much

MyNameMikee said:
Hey, I was wondering, when I am in Clockworkmod do i have to wipe dalvik data cache and format phone? I saw a vid on youtube where i have to do all of that. do i really? or just data and cache?
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If you do all the passages you will have more chances to have a full working device
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If it's your first rom, or if you're flashing an entirely new rom, do a full wipe. Otherwise, you can get away with just wiping cache and dalvik.

100% correct
Gjot said:
If you do all the passages you will have more chances to have a full working device
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ya iv had it happen to me a few times and to wipe all of them is usually the way to go, you can use titanium backup if you just want to keep your app just if you've upgraded to a new rom like going to jb from ics then do a restore and uncheck all system settings you only want your apps and their data back, if it forces closes just reboot in recovery and wipe the delvik cache and it should fix it up

[Q] a couple questions regarding audio level and app back up.

So I just bought this used and I know the volume is a bit low. Is there a way to make the max volume higher? also since I'm rooted but on stock rom what's the best way to back up all my apps so i don't have to redownload them if i decide to flash a newer rom? thanks in advance

This is the best Audio booster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841851
Titanium Backup app will backup all your apps
Also a good idea to make a full Nandroid backup from recovery too, that way you always have a way to recover to how you were before flashing any ROMs
But when you flash ROMs, you don't need to 100% wipe the tablet, just wipe SYSTEM and CACHE and DALVIK CACHE before flashing the new ROM, and your apps will remain installed
User data / apps etc is in DATA partition, ROM is on SYSTEM and think of CACHE and DALVIK CACHE as temp folders, always best to wipe them before and after flashing or restoring

*Detection* said:
This is the best Audio booster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841851
Titanium Backup app will backup all your apps
Also a good idea to make a full Nandroid backup from recovery too, that way you always have a way to recover to how you were before flashing any ROMs
But when you flash ROMs, you don't need to 100% wipe the tablet, just wipe SYSTEM and CACHE and DALVIK CACHE before flashing the new ROM, and your apps will remain installed
User data / apps etc is in DATA partition, ROM is on SYSTEM and think of CACHE and DALVIK CACHE as temp folders, always best to wipe them before and after flashing or restoring
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Oh, that's great thank you ^_^
So if I wanna flash the latest eos nightly I don't have to do a full wipe?

patrickjaden said:
Oh, that's great thank you ^_^
So if I wanna flash the latest eos nightly I don't have to do a full wipe?
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Nope, just wipe the old ROM from SYSTEM and the 2 Caches

patrickjaden said:
Oh, that's great thank you ^_^
So if I wanna flash the latest eos nightly I don't have to do a full wipe?
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Beauty of EOS is easy update ( wipe dalvik and cache before update) but once in a while do a complete wipe reinstall/update so that the ROM is stable ( personally it helped me). Don't always believe in app back up, I learnt hard way abt it. So my method is update once in 4 revised EOS updates, and flash the ROM after cleaning dalvik n cache. I do not touch apps as they never gave any issues as long as I restore them from titanium back up..
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so the kat app isn't working as my speakers don't seem louder...