Good News Microsoft enabling Flash by default - Microsoft Surface

Good news everyone Microsoft is enabling Flash by default in Internet Explorer 10 starting March 12th part of the patch Tuesday updates
Link http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/11/4090878/microsoft-enabling-flash-by-default-windows-8-rt-march-12

no more hacks! \o/

Yay, now I can enjoy the internet just a little bit more!

Yeah, long overdue on their part.
For people who would still like to use Flash on a whitelist (there are definitely some of us), there are some options built into IE:
1. Use "ActiveX Filtering". It's under Tools -> Safety. It will put a little blue circle in the URL bar of a site with blocked ActiveX (not just Flash; any ActiveX) and you can click the circle to turn off the filter for that site.
2. Use the ActiveX plugin's own whitelist. Go to the Add-On Manager (Tools -> "Manage add-ons") and then double-click on "Shockwave Flash Object". Hit "Remove all sites" and then OK and exit the manager. Now, any site that requires Flash will pop up a Information Bar request for it (down at the bottom, like a file download request although without the attention-grabbing color shift) which you can approve or deny. Approving the site will add it to the whitelist in the add-on manager. This can be done on a per-plugin basis.
These methods can be combined, if you want. It's also possible to block the most common source of Flash (advertisements) using IE's built-in "Tracking Protection" feature combined with either a well-built homemade list, or using one of the official lists (EasyList, the same folks who maintain the AdBlock Pro list of that name, have one for IE). As with ActiveX Filtering, you can see when Tracking Protection is blocking something because the little blue cross-out circle appears, and you can turn it off for that site by clicking on the circle an approving the site.

This where they slip in a jail break fix rofl.

Lovely, today a large am out of updates, does this include the flash enablement?

Clienterror said:
This where they slip in a jail break fix rofl.
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Tested, I am still able to use the jailbreak after the March update on my Surface RT,

LastBattle said:
Tested, I am still able to use the jailbreak after the March update on my Surface RT,
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Awesome! I was being more on the funny side though

Webpages on espn.go.com and cnet tv must use another plug-in unfortunately since I still get no video. So that sucks, but now you don't manually have to add a site one by one so I'm thankful for that.

Disable Flash
I'm already done with them stupid flash-banners and ads. I don't need flash in Modern UI IE10, any way I can disable it?

ReijMan said:
I'm already done with them stupid flash-banners and ads. I don't need flash in Modern UI IE10, any way I can disable it?
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If you disable it in the Desktop IE, it will also be disabled in the Modern UI one. (Settings menu, "Manage Add-ons," right-click Shockwave, select "disable.")

KJ98653 said:
Webpages on espn.go.com and cnet tv must use another plug-in unfortunately since I still get no video. So that sucks, but now you don't manually have to add a site one by one so I'm thankful for that.
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Hmmm... I could watch CNet TV on RT before flash was enabled for all sites... It doesn't work? And you've restarted recently?

C-Lang said:
Hmmm... I could watch CNet TV on RT before flash was enabled for all sites... It doesn't work? And you've restarted recently?
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Yes. Here's some screenshots of what I see.
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=8639C9274E06C173!403&authkey=!APTjgXu1gNiHUi4
https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=8639C9274E06C173!404&authkey=!AMroefSL-CXXT_A
ESPN and cnet apps will play the videos I want to view, but the apps are too sluggish for me vs the web.

Thank god... was that so hard Microsoft? Was it? Lol. I can delete the annoying shortcuts I made on the desktop to access that list. I've also noticed my browser has been running a little faster as well.

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Web Browser Invert Colors Bookmarklet

I was looking for a solution to invert browser colors on my Epic4G. I look forward to a day when Cyanogenmod runs on the epic so I can use the modded browser with "invert colors". Dolphin HD's "Reader" addon was close, but it added padding to the browser on my Epic.
So... i decided maybe a javascript bookmarklet could do what i wanted. turns out, it did.
This has only been tested in the Android 2.3.4 stock browser. To use it, copy the code from the page linked to below into the clipboard and add a new bookmark, pasting the code into the URL box. Give it a name like "Invert Color". Then when you're viewing a page you want to invert, open the bookmarks menu, and click the bookmark.
http://tonymuka.com/js/
You still have to click the link for every page you browse to for now, but perhaps somebody knows a better way. I did try to contact Dolphin for info on writing Addons, but it doesn't seem very open. I haven't used firefox mobile too much yet, but maybe there is potential there...
I wasn't sure exactly where to post this, and since it might work on any device with a browser that supports bookmarklets, i put it in general. mods should feel free to move it with my thanks!
Enjoy!
does this work on wp7??
Magpir said:
does this work on wp7??
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It should work in any modern HTML compliant browser that supports javascript in bookmarks. You'll probably have to copy and paste the javascript into the bookmark and give it a try. Please let us know if it does I tried this weekend in Dolphin HD on Android, and in Mobile Safari on Apple's iPad2 and it works there too.
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It should work in any modern HTML compliant browser that supports javascript in bookmarks. You'll probably have to copy and paste the javascript into the bookmark and give it a try. Please let us know if it does I tried this weekend in Dolphin HD on Android, and in Mobile Safari on Apple's iPad2 and it works there too.
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i tried it works on windowsphone IE 9 in mango
But not all webpages invert colour
and also each time u need to press the bookmarklet
is there a permanent solution?
Magpir said:
i tried it works on windowsphone IE 9 in mango
But not all webpages invert colour
and also each time u need to press the bookmarklet
is there a permanent solution?
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Glad to hear it works in mango!
Unfortunately i don't know a way to make it permanent, i think the browser would have to allow such plugins to run automatically every time a page loads. (like a greasemonkey script, etc)
If you send a link to a page that wont invert I'll check it out and see if i can fix it. If it has a background image or flash there's not much i can do without removing background images altogether...
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Glad to hear it works in mango!
Unfortunately i don't know a way to make it permanent, i think the browser would have to allow such plugins to run automatically every time a page loads. (like a greasemonkey script, etc)
If you send a link to a page that wont invert I'll check it out and see if i can fix it. If it has a background image or flash there's not much i can do without removing background images altogether...
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just try to make it permanent...like a cookie ect,,
or make an entire new browser and upload to marketplace for free
Tony, thanks for this. It inspired me to think about a more permanent solution using a web filtering proxy. I have proof that it would work, but I don't have the skills to develop this further. Would be great if you could take a look at this and see if you have any thoughts: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17960461
Browsers that support web storage could probably do it.
Also the one browser I know wont have a problem making it permanent would be Opera Mobile, because it supports user javascript and css like the desktop browser does.
claimui, great idea, i'll check it out!
yareally, i'm an old opera fan, but haven't fallen in love with the mobile version despite several attempts... gotta love the user js and css though- didn't know you could use them on mobile too!
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claimui, great idea, i'll check it out!
yareally, i'm an old opera fan, but haven't fallen in love with the mobile version despite several attempts... gotta love the user js and css though- didn't know you could use them on mobile too!
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Yeah, it's not quite as friendly to do as the desktop browser, but you can set the userjs/usercss locations and such in opera.ini and mod whatever you like.
I semi wrote an informal tutorial on it in a thread for opera mobile in the forum area http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=9373312
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I was looking for a solution to invert browser colors on my Epic4G. I look forward to a day when Cyanogenmod runs on the epic so I can use the modded browser with "invert colors". Dolphin HD's "Reader" addon was close, but it added padding to the browser on my Epic.
So... i decided maybe a javascript bookmarklet could do what i wanted. turns out, it did.
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Pardon me, but this is rediculous! How do you justify accessing your private site for a "bookmarklet" over 90 kb in size running and incorporating parts of several versions of jQuery??
I put it to you that this is spyware! Swapping foreground and background colors is a oneliner in any version of this bookmarklet, doesn't need any external sites, runs much faster and doesn't have privacy issues like this garbage!
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Pardon me, but this is rediculous! How do you justify accessing your private site for a "bookmarklet" over 90 kb in size running and incorporating parts of several versions of jQuery??
I put it to you that this is spyware! Swapping foreground and background colors is a oneliner in any version of this bookmarklet, doesn't need any external sites, runs much faster and doesn't have privacy issues like this garbage!
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I assure you this is not any kind of spyware, read the source, it's all there in plain text... Feel free to provide the one liner bookmarklet you refer to if you are really trying to be helpful, otherwise, move along...
Hi Tony M
Just to repeat it here:
Put the javascript in a gesture activated bookmark in dolphin hd for ease of use.
I also found this gem on css sheets with opera mobile.
androidforums dot com/samsung-captivate/195082-high-contrast-browsing.html
I used to have an app that let you pass pages between browsers with intents. Lost it and can't remember the name!
Found it. It is called choose browser.
Pluck the best from each browser.

[Q] After three months of owning and loving my Android, I have a bunch of questions

I bought a Desire Z last September and have just now really gotten it how I like it. I'm quite satisfied so far. The Chinese dictionaries and translation helpers are really great. It's nice to use my phone for more than just SMS and puzzle games. However, I have been keeping a file where I wrote down every question I had as it occurred to me. Hopefully someone out there can shed some light on these issues. I'm sure other people ran into them as well.
System:
How many widgets is too many? When does the phone start slowing down? I know Elixir widget takes CPU, I see it when running top.
Where are all these push messages coming from, and how do I block them?
How do I create a shortcut to open a document (like my list of questions)? I don't see the option anywhere. Bookmarks yes, .doc file no.
Why the hell does 'phone' use so much internet? It's a phone! Or is it using VOIP or something?
What is 'HTC apps' and why does it use so much internet?
What's the best way to transfer files to a desktop without a cable? I tried Dropbox but it sucked.
This one slays me. I open file manager, navigate to a .doc file, and open it. Quickoffice does not show up in the taskbar, only file manager. Took me forever to figure out that I needed to select file manager to reopen Quickoffice. WTF.
Apps:
I need an SMS junk filter that accepts wildcards. I tried a couple, but they just supported white and blacklisting, not useful at all. China Telecom spams you from a different phone number every time, but it is a special number that doesn't look like a phone number.
I need a replacement for the HTC clock that doesn't flip! I checked out probably a dozen different clocks and they ALL used the same design of flipping the numbers. This is so irritating.
I need a program to show the state of tcp sockets.
Quickoffice sucks, I can't copy and paste. Kingsoft Office sucks, I can't use symbols. What else is out there for .doc?
Just how evil are dodgy market apps? When I download a popup ducky programme and it requests permissions it obviously does not need, what does that mean exactly? What do evil apps actually do?
system
1 hard to tell, just feel it.
2 in the settings of the app you can block them, you mean like twitter notifications right? just go to the settings of twitter and turn it off.
3 with a standard rom, i don't think that is possible (correct me if i'm wrong)
4 widgets use internet to get the latest information, also the phone checks for updates on apps and for your system.
5 no idea
6 for big files, just use the cable. or try a network app.
7 that's weird, just hold the home butten and open quickoffice.
apps
don't know
correct me if i'm wrong totally xd
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2 in the settings of the app you can block them, you mean like twitter notifications right? just go to the settings of twitter and turn it off.
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No, I mean push messages from my telecom provider. Not from any software (that I installed, anyway).
"What is 'HTC apps' and why does it use so much internet?"
This will be things that came on the phone, including widgets, do you actively use the sense widgets, like the social one and the news? These may be using your data
[*]What's the best way to transfer files to a desktop without a cable? I tried Dropbox but it sucked.
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ES File Explorer -> Share -> Gmail
Alternatively, AndFTP can connect if you have an FTP server running on your desktop.
[*]I need a replacement for the HTC clock that doesn't flip! I checked out probably a dozen different clocks and they ALL used the same design of flipping the numbers. This is so irritating.
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Try GO Weather. As an added bonus, it'll tell you the weather. There are multiple themes.
[*]I need a program to show the state of tcp sockets.
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Net Swiss Tool Free
[*]Quickoffice sucks, I can't copy and paste. Kingsoft Office sucks, I can't use symbols. What else is out there for .doc?
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Polaris Office
a ftp connection, I forgot the name, yes that also good.
and for a clock/weather. Look for HD widgets also very nice.
push messages? what kind of messages? what's in it? very strange.
hmm polaris office, i will check that
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Net Swiss Tool Free
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Perfect! Thanks!
Polaris Office
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This one isn't available for download in the Market. I found Documents To Go but it crashes when opening a document with Chinese characters. Come on guys, it's 2012, support Unicode! I guess Google Docs is the only remaining choice.
I need an SMS junk filter that accepts wildcards. I tried a couple, but they just supported white and blacklisting, not useful at all. China Telecom spams you from a different phone number every time, but it is a special number that doesn't look like a phone number.
I'm still hurting for this one. Today I must have gotten five spams, all starting with 10XXXXXXXXXXX. If I just had a wildcard filter the spam from my carrier would be cut off.

[HACK] Flash on Any Website in IE10 Metro Browser [WIN 8 & WIN RT]

Dear all,
As we all know Windows RT/8's IE Metro browser has limited flash support based on a whitelist. However a lot of sites are not (yet) whitelisted and hence do not work as desired. So I did some digging in the whitelist mechanism and found a way to hack it.
Be sure to follow the following steps in respective order:
Open Desktop IE10 type ALT --> Tools --> Compatibility View settings. Now UNCHECK the last checkmark which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without getting overridden.
WARNING: If this checkbox is checked IE will override your custom whitelist back to default on each rebout, so be sure to uncheck it..
The whitelist is named "iecompatdata.xml" and is located in this path (copy + paste in File Explorer or IE10)
Code:
%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\
(Alternatively open File Explorer and search in C:\ for "iecompatdata")
As suggested by danchar4, you can open and edit this file directly with Notepad by pressing WIN + R and type:
Code:
notepad "%HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\IECompatData\iecompatdata.xml"
All whitelisted flash enabled websites are located in this file inbetween the following tags:
Code:
<Flash>
[...]
<domain>zumiez.com</domain>
<domain>zynga.com</domain>
</Flash>
To add a website to the whitelist, all you do is add your desired website inside these tags as follows:
Code:
<domain>YOURDESIREDDOMAIN.COM</domain>
Add as many websites as you desire...
Now we are almost done, one last task is to delete browsing histroy. Open IE10 Metro and click WIN+I (to open settings) --> Internet Options —> Delete browsing history
And you are all set and done. Flash is now enabled in IE10 Metro for the websites you have added to the whitelist!
Of course as with any hack, attempt only at your own risk. I am not responsible in case faulty behaviour occurs... That said, it should be fine
Kind regards,
Marvin
Trouble shooting + faq
TROUBLE SHOOTING + FAQ
I tried to do these steps but it does not work on www.website.com...
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If the flash content is embedded as an iframe, be sure to also add the domain of the source of the flash content. E.g. be sure to also add the website where the iframe links to to the whitelisted sources, this is what will eventually determine whether flash will be activated or not for this website.
Does this method work for www.website.com?
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If 'website.com' uses a standard flash plugin (e.g. if you can view the flash content on a normal desktop with just the standard adobe flash player plugin) it will work with this method. All this method does is activating the built in flash plugin for any website you have added to the whitelist.
I can not find the file "iecompatdata.xml"
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If you can't find this file be sure to enable "show hidden files", this folder will show up now. Alternatively you can find it by searching C:\ for the query "iecompatdata", the file will now show up.
I have added www.website.com to the whitelist, but it does not work!
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Be sure to delete your browsing history and refresh the page. If it does not work now, please be sure to check if you have added the website correctly (e.g. within <domain> tags).
After I have rebooted my computer, I have lost my custom whitelist!
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Make sure you have UNCHECKED the last checkmark in "Compatibility View settings" which says: "Download updated compatibility list from Microsoft". If you have done this, you will be able to locally change the whitelist without IE overriding it automatically.
Marvin_S said:
After more thorough testing, I found that a domain with a wildcard will not work i.e.
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<domain>*.com</domain>
Does not allow flash to work on all .com sites... so this solution is out of the window, unless somebody knows if a wildcard in this list is supplied differently. I could not find anything in the documentation regarding the use of wildcards in this list, so most likely its not supported.
Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
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Thanks so much for this work. I remember u from ur past work on wp7/7.5 on here. Thanks again. I almost called MS lite to return my surface because of this stupidity. Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad.
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Now if I can find an easy way to block the ads ill be really happy. These ads are so invading. I didn't realize how much firefox with adblock was until I had to us IE for the last 3 days. quite annoying as it makes content loading so slow.
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Your welcome. Glad it was helpful, yes I have been less active due to obligations at the univerisity. If we find a better solution we will let you know.
Some kind of adblocker is also integrated in Internet Explorer. Go to Manage add-ons and then to Tracking Protection. Now download a couple of adblock lists. It is not as good as chrome/ff, but it gets the job done for the most part!
And take some time to get used to your new machine, its a beautiful device and only yet people are starting to explore it and develop for it. It will for sure be a highly demanded device and will most likely reach a lot of developer/hacker interest.
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Are they like apple or what? Trying to decide what u can do and what u can't is a v.stupid idea and whoever decided this at MS should be fired. If I wanted a prison garden, I'd buy an iPad
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The restriction against other browsers is equally disturbing.
See here: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-57431236-92/microsoft-bans-firefox-on-arm-based-windows-mozilla-says/
Even Google, who loves to push their own brand name through Chrome, saw the wisdom of allowing the customer freedom.
Lets not forget what, in large part, created Android's success - people jumped ship from Apple because they saw Android as an OS that allowed the consumer as much or as little customization as you want - you want it simple - they present a good out of box experience - you want something more, you can make changes.
We don't need two walled gardens.
Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
Installed Chrome Browser
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Eh, that's just the restriction against third-party desktop apps. Mozilla even acknowledges that they could build a Windows Store app, and in fact they're apparently doing that (http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57376421-264/coming-in-2012-firefox-for-windows-8s-metro/)... just for some reason they're doing it only for x86. Since Store apps, even for RT, are allowed to use native C/C++ and the compiler supports building them for ARM, I'm really not sure why they don't just recompile it for RT. Yeah, their JavaScript JIT would need to be changed, but they already have a JIT for ARM don't they? That's equally relevant for Firefox on RT in the Desktop or in "Metro" anyhow, so it would be a stupid thing to complain about. In any case, they could just fall back to interpreted JS.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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the software restrictions should be the same, the other limitation is that you can't just download x86 software and install it on the RT because x86 doesn't run on ARM processors, are you absolutely certain you were on an ATIV tab running Windows RT or just a samsung tablet running Windows 8 with an x86 processor? If it was already possible to install chrome on Windows RT it'd be all over the internet.
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I am not sure if this adds anything to the discussion. I don't own a Windows RT machine, but I was in Office Depot the other day looking at their devices. They had a Samsung ATIV Smart PC on display. So, I messed around with if for a while. I had read that other browsers were forbidden on the RT. I thought, I wonder if Google Chrome will run? So I installed it off the internet and it worked.
My question is this: Is it just the MS RT the locks itself down? Why did the Samsung allow me to D/L and install Chrome?
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it's the samsung smart PC running on x86 hardware? (clovertrail or i5) if it is, then it's running full windows 8 and you can install any legacy apps (like chrome/ff) to your hearts content.
not to go off topic too much, but as to the earlier comment about freedom and choice being the reason android gained so much marketshare so fast. it has more to do with the combination of cheap handsets and carrier penetration, at a time when the iphone was locked to one network in the US and blackberry was slowly falling out of the consumer mindshare. yes, people like us who frequent xda might have moved to it because of the openness of the platform, but the mainstream market really doesn't care about that.
Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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Guys, we are wandering too far off topic. I appreciate the discussion, but please let it be (somehow) related to ways of enabling flash on IE10 on Win RT and 8. The limitations of Windows RT are better to be discussed in appropriate threads
Did anybody do an experiment with this compatibility list? Or tried to deactivate it in its entire? A systems admin or IT pro might no some more details on this?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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I added several websites and it worked fine. I'm a bit bummed as I think MS will find a way to over write the xml file in a masquerade windows update. As far as deactivation is concerned, I thought about making a backup of the xml file, and completely deleting the original to see if it works at all. What do u think?
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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Well I created a local account to test this. Backup the file and deleted the original. All the blacklisted sites didn't work. So its not 100% possible yet but I bet there's a reg option or even a security policy (secpol.msc) that will turn this check off completely. Perhaps a bit of poke around will yield some insights. I looked in secpol and didn't find anything. So that leaves the registry up for grabs unless they're pulling that wp hidden / reg lock down thing.
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i bet its hidden, since if you want to add a developer website to test flash on you will have to create a reg key in a non existing folder in the ie registry settings called FLASH, so I guess thats the hidden folder. But I wonder if it is possible to somehow trace these folders. I personally dont know anything about the entire mechanism behind the comapibility view. I just discovered it by accident by figuring out where the whitelist was located. So far it seems that it does not take wildcards for domains and also shutting down the list in its entire does not seem to work. We can try to add a 'blank' domain but I doubt it will work.
Doesn't work for me
I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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It might work, but I assume it will just deactivate compatibility view in its entire and hence disable flash for all sites. But its worth the try Let me know if it works!
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More likely is that it will download the default list, or the current list. I don't really see compatibility view as an issue. What you are getting is the ability to use the major Flash-enabled sites without any of the ad sites, built-in as opposed to using third-party solutions.
mechmouni said:
I am doing just as instructed. I do not know why it doesn't for me. I tried movie2k.to and myp2p, ibliz. None of them work
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Make sure you follow each step correctly. It has been tested and confirmed working by lots of people, on both Windows RT and Windows 8. Make sure you delete browsing history.
Marvin_S said:
Alternatively, we could create some kind of "community" maintained whitelist, where anybody can just add any website and we will then point IE10 to download a whitelist from this community maintained source (instead of from Microsoft).
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Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
jessenic said:
Here you can add sites: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/
And here is the list itself: http://minecraft.digiex.org/flash/iecompatviewlist.xml
Working with Nuduaa on a auto downloader script to autoupdate it every now and then on the surface.
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Awesome! Now I just have to wait for MS to ship me a damn Surface
If it is done (and there is some automation) I will add it to the first post!
Thank you for maintaining the list. This is great guys... good work!
Does anybody know if Windows RT allows the creation of custom extensions?
help
I am following the steps yet I can't find the place in c drive as described on my surface.

The future of Flash

I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
- [Edit] If more support for Flash is to be forthcoming, what would one expect the timeline to be? How long would it take? [I know this will mostly be speculation ]
- [EDIT] if firefox or chrome were developed for it, would they have to run off of the whitelist as well?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.
adashofrainbow said:
I know there is a lot of gripe about the White list of what websites are allowed to use flash. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the topic so I wanted to fish around a bit for some information and pose some questions.
-Is it always going to be like this? Is it likely that they will release someway for users to control their own flash preferences?
-Is it likely that a 3rd party will release something that will allow a setting like this?
-As someone who hasn't touched windows 8 full, does the full OS have a similar flash limitation?
Also if this is the wrong place for this I am terribly sorry and will move the thread where ever it goes.
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Hello
I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.
equisbox said:
Hello
I don't think it will always be like this. I think someone may create a tool that automatically adds websites or simplify the process for us. Or we may even have a list that the community creates and we could possibly set our browser to auto download the list via options or script or 3rd party software. That being said, I do not think full windows will have the same flash limitation..at least not in desktop mode, because they can install whatever windows app they choose. It's an awesome device nonetheless.
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There is no doubt that I am enjoying my new toy. However I really enjoy certain facebook games, like Marvel Avenger's and Draw something, but unfortunately the flash support of Facebook doesn't extend to these. I got this to replace my laptop, it's unfortunate that I can't play these on the go any more. I suppose a time line for flash support would be another question I have.
laptop replacement...I think the surface pro is probably a better option for laptop replacement than the RT. Unless of course you only do light amount of things on your laptop, and do not care about not being able to install 'regular' windows applications such as Photoshop. Even then you could remote desktop into your PC and use those applications, Some people have reported very good results using remote desktop on the surface, but I have yet to try it or myself. Don't get me wrong though, the surface RT is a very powerful device and a lot better then android and ipad as far as productivity IMO. We are just little behind on the number of applications, and even then you could argue that most android and apple apps are useless. Nonetheless, the do have us beat by the numbers. We get a real high quality app right out the box - Office.
I was at a crossroads before I purchased my Surface. I love androids and I couldn't decide between RT or android tablet. I played with the Surface and I feel in love, Whereas the android tablet would have been just like having a bigger phone. There's not much I could do in an Android tablet that I couldn't do on my Samsung Galaxy S3.
I also though I wanted the Surface PRO at first, but upon further research, I came to the conclusion that RT was the right choice. I wanted a Tablet that can do light PC related tasks, not a full mini laptop - I have a DELL XPS 15 and multiple desktops for any 'serious' work I may need to do. The pro will probably get HOT and windy and noisy due to the fans as well. I think a lot of people who purchase the pro may end up returning it and getting a RT because I do not think the PRO will functions completely like a tablet. I may be wrong but I guess only time will tell.
I love this thing.
To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.
GoodDayToDie said:
To answer some questions:
Win8 (x86/x64) includes the whitelist in its iecompatdata.xml file, but doesn't "respect" it (i.e. all Flash sites work).
While an official tool to control Flash usage is quite possible, don't hold your breath. A few unofficial tools already exist, but tend to be a bit limited and/or cumbersome to use (I'm working on an improved one myself).
A Windows Store app, even if it could get approved, probably wouldn't work for most people; the relevant file is outside the app sandbox, so the user would have to manually grant permission to access it.
For Facebook games (or other places where an external video is embedded manually), try adding the domain of the Flash file itself (usually found in an OBJECT tag, with an extension like ".flv"). For example, if the Flash file comes from "http://flash.facebook-games.com/IMaedAGaem/flashgame.flv", you should try adding "facebook-games.com" to the whitelist. You can try using my old scripts (working on updates for them) for this, although I can't promise they'll work in that case (haven't ever tried). The link is in my signature.
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So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?
adashofrainbow said:
So what's the real hope? That more websites get whitelisted?
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That, or that Microsoft discontinue the whitelist
you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?
mmian said:
you do understand that you can easily add to the whitelist yourself right?
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Yes, but it would be nice to not have to. And I'm not always 100% successful

Question I possibly have a virus. Need some feedback

I've got an A32 5G that functionally performs ok. it's had some slow loading pages recently and some YouTube videos buffering, which I attributed to the recent system updates as well as the move to 5g in my area. I still think these are the likely sources of my lower performance, but. . ... I went to grc.com and ran their Shields Up test the other day, probing all common ports. my results came back that I have a port 179 open about 95% of the time (meaning I've ran the test quite a few times since then, only a few of those times it showed stealth). appx. 10% of the time I ran the test, it showed port 1, and port 1&2 closed, but not stealthed. the other test results showed them to be stealthed.
prior to now, and when having my friends run the tests on their phones, my former and everyone else's current results were 100% stealthed.
my questions -
1. can a few of you with the same phone as me run the same tests and see what your results are. (it's at grc.com, then Shields Up, then Shields Up, then proceed, then All Service Ports)
2. short of resetting the phone, how do I find out the source or cause of this port being open? (I've done a lot so far, none of which has helped, so I won't bore anyone just yet)
3. is there a better section to post this in?
See if you can ID the app using it with a firewall.
If running on Pie or below Karma Firewall will detect apps accessing the internet.
If you can't ID and eliminate it, factory reset.
You are what you install and download, exercise caution.
This is what I get when I run that check:
the only apps on my phone are Firefox & Brave browsers, CX File Explorer, File Viewer, New Pipe, SMS Backup & Restore, and a few games from Yiotro.
never been on Facebook, nor any other social media
blackhawk said:
See if you can ID the app using it with a firewall.
If running on Pie or below Karma Firewall will detect apps accessing the internet.
If you can't ID and eliminate it, factory reset.
You are what you install and download, exercise caution.
This is what I get when I run that check:
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the test I was referring to was this one
and I'm on Android 12. the firewall approach is null with that?
mr_horsepower said:
the test I was referring to was this one
and I'm on Android 12. the firewall approach is null with that?
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Lol, I scanned that exe with Virustotal and while most might trust it... I don't!
Android 12 will gut firewall apps not designed to run on it. Even 10 does this.
A big reason I still run on Pie; functionality for trusted apps.
Nuke it if there's any doubt. Change Google account password, check if its been breached.
Likely something you installed...
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Lol, I scanned that exe with Virustotal and while most might trust it... I don't!
Android 12 will gut firewall apps not designed to run on it. Even 10 does this.
A big reason I still run on Pie; functionality for trusted apps.
Nuke it if there's any doubt. Change Google account password, check if its been breached.
Likely something you installed...
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how do you keep your system from updating?
mine is set to only do it over wifi, and I never use wifi (literally never) and eventually it gives in I guess and downloads it over my data connection. I've got auto updates on the play store turned off and I've never had anything update without my choosing to, again, thru just the play store.
I'm fairly certain that Steve Gibson, the guy that runs the Security Now site and podcast is a 100% safe environment.
*I also realize my recommendations on what's safe and what's not mean nothing, especially given the thread I just started, lol.
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how do you keep your system from updating?
mine is set to only do it over wifi, and I never use wifi (literally never) and eventually it gives in I guess and downloads it over my data connection. I've got auto updates on the play store turned off and I've never had anything update without my choosing to, again, thru just the play store.
I'm fairly certain that Steve Gibson, the guy that runs the Security Now site and podcast is a 100% safe environment.
*I also realize my recommendations on what's safe and what's not mean nothing, especially given the thread I just started, lol.
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I use a package disabler to block OTA updates.
A nasty little app...
I think his site's probably ok, but caution is best when in doubt. My current load is over 2 yo and runs very well.
I've just spent the past 5 hours doing a full restore on my phone. I just ran the scan again and I got the same effing results. will someone please, for the love of all that is good in this world, pretty friggin please, run that scan and see if they get the same port open? please.
you don't even have to do the whole scan, which takes all of 30 seconds. just type 179 in the box and hit enter. it will open open to another page and you hit the 'probe this port' button. it's Steve Gibsons website. it's safe. he's one of the grandfathers of internet security.
Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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didn't reload the games (they're zero permission games from an awesome source though). I did a reinstall of DDG browser, File Viewer, SMS Backup & Restore, and Textra. I went through all my permissions and deleted all the b.s. bloatware, fired up the browser and went and ran the test. same results. I've ran the test a bunch over the years, first time with that result ever a few days ago.
I'm going to order a new phone tomorrow. if I'm lucky, it'll be in in time for me to blow this thing up on the 4th.
*I also ran the test at a few other port scanners prior to the reset. one of 3 didn't show the port open, the others did. I haven't rechecked it at those places after the fact
*it doesn't sound like you're familiar with Steve Gibson or his work. it'd be worth poking around his website a little. also listening to or reading transcripts of his weekly podcast he's done for years. that website is as pure as the driven snow.
blackhawk said:
Lol, doesn't sound that safe judging by your results. You should have loaded just that app and scanned. May be a false result.
No known rootkit can survive a factory reset on Android 9 and up. So either it's a normal result, glitch or you reloaded the malware... probably one of the games.
Install Karma Firewall (it may not install on 12), one by one block 3rd party apps and so on, then scan until you find it.
Or factory reset again and run the scan... first.
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and to clarify, it's not an app. you go there with your browser and click on a button. it's just a web page, it's just a button. you don't even need Javascript to be on at his website.
*and while I appreciate your offering up that .apk, I'm not in the habit of sideloading apps from a barely known source. that's a small example of what makes this problem I'm having so perplexing.
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and to clarify, it's not an app. you go there with your browser and click on a button. it's just a web page, it's just a button. you don't even need Javascript to be on at his website.
*and while I appreciate your offering up that .apk, I'm not in the habit of sideloading apps from a barely known source. that's a small example of what makes this problem I'm having so perplexing.
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Won't run in my browser. Tried disabling a few things that might have blocked it, no go.
My current setup hasn't had any malware issues, has been fast and stable for over 2 years so I'm not playing with it further than this for no good reason.
I don't have in depth knowledge of these protocols. Been a long while since I setup a router. Meh, although I'm curious about this... but it's your rabbit hole to chase down. It's a pretty deep hole.
Karma Firewall been updated.
NetGuard is fully functional on 12, root not needed. I haven't played with this yet.
Install a firewall and see if you can spot it...
if you went there, and proceeded like this, with or without Javascript on (my default everywhere is its off unless I decide to give sites that liberty), I can't see how in the world it's not running. I appreciate your time regardless.
A link be nice...
Here's would I got on my N10+/Pie:
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A link be nice...
Here's would I got on my N10+/Pie:
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that's the unplug and pray test. I can't provide a link to anything (try anything you would be able to create a link from at a typical site and you'll see it doesn't work there) but the main page because of the way his site is set up. here's hopefully a better picture of what you are pressing, and what to choose instead.
*check your link, which doesn't go where you think it does, and he explains why not.

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