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Time to teach an old dog some new tricks. Being an AT&T customer for over 10 years it should come as no surprise that I'm an absolulte stranger to 4G . I have few questions though and hope someone can steer a little 4G knowledge my way.
1) When 4G hits will we need to be on a stock rom and radio?
2) For those of you already in HSPA areas (lucky bastards) what kind of speeds are you experiencing.
Thanks in advance
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
ATT runs hspa+ as "4g", which will go to 21Mbps, then 42Mbps. Then ATT will roll out LTE as real 4g soon too, which will be a whole new network, new frequencies, and need new phone hardware antennas and radio. LTE speeds can go very high, talking about 100Mbps eventually.
pavaccar said:
I think when 4g hits all we will need is a new sim card but I could be wrong
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I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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lrs421 said:
I think the sim card stuff is hokey. I'm more worried about custom Roms and radios. Like will we be able to run CM7 when 4G drops.
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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klquicksall said:
Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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That's the feedback I was after. 6mb, nice!
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Well ATT's current hspa will be able to go up to 42Mbps when they turn it on. Look at current t-mobile speeds, its the same technology and they run 21Mbps with users seeing 9Mbps in select areas, and higher. So same applies to ATT.
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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That sucks. I feel your pain.
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divinewisdom said:
I am in southern california, supposed "4G" coverage area; only get between
500k to 1.5mb/s. Stock rom and rooted, same result. Att blows.
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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Did you edit your build.prop to enable higher data speeds?
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thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
What's your build prop settings
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Yep we will need a lte phone and 4g sim. HSPA + will work fine on different roms. Dallas has it and ive gotten speeds over 6 dl. Stock radio and custom rom.
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Chicago here, I get 6 down and 1.5 up on non-peak data times. I don't think the sim card is a non-issue considering that hspa+ is just an evolved 3g technology. I can't wait for a more consistent speed, even though I use wifi most of the time. I am using cognition hd right now and still getting these speeds.
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thats my next step. I am using TPC optimized stock rom, which should have some build prop edit to it already, but will try to tweak it some more and see the reaults. I doubt I will see anything over 3mbs....
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Here in socal I see 3 Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up.
Recently i bought the Inspire 4G from USA through Ebay
and found that the only network i can use to be connected to the internet is GPRS
I started wondering if this phone support the UK network (HSPA)
i'm currently using Three (UK)' 3G network, my HTC Legend works fine with HSPA
Does Inspire 4G support HSPA?? or only HSPA+??
You have to play around with the apn there is a whole thread about it
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You have to play around with the apn there is a whole thread about it
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u mean that's the problem with my APN settings?
So how can i find the correct settings then??
The DHD and Inspire 4G are one in the same with a few minor differences. If you've s-off and downgraded, you can directly flash the new stock Desire HD Gingerbread ROM without all the bloatware from here. You will have to root using Gingerbreak, then install the tinny audio fix from here. Works like a champ. Of course, there's all the DHD GB ROM's based on that same kernel which can be flashed using CWM. Lot's of options here...none include the stock AT&T ROM.
so you are saying that the problem can be fixed by flashing a new DHD rom??but not the own problem of inspire 4G?
Yup...give it a whirl. AT&T ROM's are preloaded with their own APN and do not allow you to use the built-in network configuration utility at first boot. Just downgrade and s-off first. It used to be that the original shipping DHD ROM's would cause the I4G to lose audio. Now it's just a bit tinny which some do not like.
i tried this before, it doesn't work, there is still only GPRS network
i even flashed the latest radio just now, but it just doesn't show the "H" icon at the top!!!!
please brothers, i am also facing the same problem in middle east using inspire 4g with vodafone sim card. mine is rooted inspire 4g and i couldn'd get the 3g connection.
Hmmm...unless the radio hardware is different, and I don't think it is, I don't know what the situation is. You flashed the whole ROM right?
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This thread has so much wrong info in it.
The Inspire 4G will NEVER work with European UMTS(3G) bands. Only EDGE. The reason is frequency. The USA uses 850/1900 for UMTS. The EU uses 900/2100. There is no way to change this.
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id10terrordfw said:
This thread has so much wrong info in it.
The Inspire 4G will NEVER work with European UMTS(3G) bands. Only EDGE. The reason is frequency. The USA uses 850/1900 for UMTS. The EU uses 900/2100. There is no way to change this.
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right. I was just about to post this.
+1 read the nitty gritty specifications before plunking down hundreds of dollars on these things.
yes, flashed wholly
i'm so helpless now....
problem can't be fixed??
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i'm so helpless now....
problem can't be fixed??
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No you wont ever get 3g with the inspire in Europe. It only has American 3g bands.
I don't know why this thread got so many replies with nobody saying this, but it lacks the hardware for your country. Sorry.
OK...the European ROM flashes to the Inspire, radio and all, and HSPA works in the US without a hiccup. How does the DHD radio firmware work here if the hardware is different? I'm assuming that the same firmware works on both phones but the hardware to receive the 900/2100 mhz band is missing. Oh well, learn something new every day.
FWIW, you may try changing your band on the phone by using engineering mode *#*#4636#*#* and seeing if you can play around with network preferences. Other than that, I think the guys above must be right.
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Other than that, I think the guys above must be right.
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We are.
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dear friends, wht abt midlle east gsm frequency gsm800/1800 mhz. can i use 3g data here.???? pls pls... reply me.
any hardware issue can be done??
Been stuck on 1x all morning, have tried rebooting, toggling connection (I am not in 4g area). I am on MR2 released radio. I am rooted.
Any one else having 3g or even 4g connection issues?
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Nope. Rocking a strong 4G actually.
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Nope. Rocking a strong 4G actually.
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Damn you. My area must just suck for connection especially on LTE side of things.
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00negative said:
Damn you. My area must just suck for connection especially on LTE side of things.
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Toggle to cdma prl in York LTE settings and reboot. If I have LTE set on I get 1x all the time. Not sure if its the real problem or fix but seems to work for me. I'm also in a 3g area.
00negative said:
Been stuck on 1x all morning, have tried rebooting, toggling connection (I am not in 4g area). I am on MR2 released radio. I am rooted.
Any one else having 3g or even 4g connection issues?
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What are of the country are in?
dalrym05 said:
Toggle to cdma prl in York LTE settings and reboot. If I have LTE set on I get 1x all the time. Not sure if its the real problem or fix but seems to work for me. I'm also in a 3g area.
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Yeah I have not had to with the newer radios but I guess I am forced to now.
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DoctorZaius68 said:
What are of the country are in?
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Midwest
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Same issue here.
This morning I wake up, and my thunderbolt is stock on 1x. If I switch to 4G, it will do 4g, but back to CDMA only, and stuck on 1x. I have 4G at home, but leave it on 3G because I normally am at work with no 4G coverage.
I flashed the stock mr 2 rom just to confirm and used the official radio just to be safe. No change.
Googled around a bit and here is a fix that worked for me...
Dialer -> ##778# ->Call -> Edit -> 000000 -> modem settings ->Rev A
Switch to enable from eHRPD and then hit back once. Menu->Commit.
Solved for me, but I don't know if it has adverse effects...
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Same issue here.
This morning I wake up, and my thunderbolt is stock on 1x. If I switch to 4G, it will do 4g, but back to CDMA only, and stuck on 1x. I have 4G at home, but leave it on 3G because I normally am at work with no 4G coverage.
I flashed the stock mr 2 rom just to confirm and used the official radio just to be safe. No change.
Googled around a bit and here is a fix that worked for me...
Dialer -> ##778# ->Call -> Edit -> 000000 -> modem settings ->Rev A
Switch to enable from eHRPD and then hit back once. Menu->Commit.
Solved for me, but I don't know if it has adverse effects...
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Did the exact same thing. Doesn't have adverse affects other than with losing benefits of LTE.
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00negative said:
Did the exact same thing. Doesn't have adverse affects other than with losing benefits of LTE.
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Can you explain? What losing benefits with LTE?
MordyT said:
Can you explain? What losing benefits with LTE?
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This makes your phone use the "old" version of EvDO. Basically what all 3g phones that don't have 4g radios use. If your area doesn't have 4g, doing this change shouldn't effect you at all and might get you 3g if you are stuck in 1x.
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1X here all morning too. I'm in San Francisco.
On the plus side, my DL/UL speeds suck, but ping is 9 ms, so Mobile Hotspotting is still relatively fast.
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Can you explain? What losing benefits with LTE?
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Dont think you can use data while on a call when using EVDO, like you could on LTE.
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00negative said:
Dont think you can use data while on a call when using EVDO, like you could on LTE.
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You can in 3G with the Thunderbolt. I did it yesterday. I work in 4G but live in 3G, but this feature is what finally made me pick the TB over the Charge.
I started this morning with the 3G/4G toggle on 3G only, to save battery, and around lunch I switched 4G back on and it has been there since... I haven't had issues with 1X. Must be a regional thing.
KnightCrusader said:
You can in 3G with the Thunderbolt. I did it yesterday. I work in 4G but live in 3G, but this feature is what finally made me pick the TB over the Charge.
I started this morning with the 3G/4G toggle on 3G only, to save battery, and around lunch I switched 4G back on and it has been there since... I haven't had issues with 1X. Must be a regional thing.
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But we had to switch to the old network to get 3g to work at all.
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This is the second handset I've received and is now experiencing the same symptoms. With the phone sitting on my desk at work it drops the connection to the Rogers tower and sits in NO Service state.
Has anyone else experienced the same problems with their One-X?
Q.
Yep, I get this too. I'm quite sure it'll be fixed in an update, but in the meantime I have switch in and out of airplane mode to fix it.
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Hmmmm....
craig0r said:
Yep, I get this too. I'm quite sure it'll be fixed in an update, but in the meantime I have switch in and out of airplane mode to fix it.
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Airplane mode doesn't do a thing for me to get it reconnected. I have to reboot the phone. I also still get the 'preparing SIM' message now and then. Others have attributed that to Sense and using another launcher either fixed it or covered up the message from being displayed.
I am curious if there is a hardware issue with intermittent contact with the SIM card.
Hey guys,
I got my HOX on Friday last week and I've rooted, unlocked the bootloader network unlocked it so I could use it with Bell. I haven't noted those symptoms being on the Bell Network. Could be worth to check with Rogers.
I had tons of connection issues on Rogers....until I disabled LTE. Now I get full bars all the time and never lose the network. I used to get 1-2 bars max on LTE and I would randomly lose connection completely. I think Rogers LTE network just sucks.
GibMcFragger said:
I had tons of connection issues on Rogers....until I disabled LTE. Now I get full bars all the time and never lose the network. I used to get 1-2 bars max on LTE and I would randomly lose connection completely. I think Rogers LTE network just sucks.
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Yeah I never get much more then 2 bars on LTE either, but the speeds are lightning fast
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AWS has terrible wall penetration. This is why Wind Mobile and Mobilicity customers are always complaining about the terrible reception and dropped calls they get. Rogers uses the same frequency.
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Interestingly enough, I'm not even on an LTE plan. Confirmed with Rogers today that I am still on my Captivate's 3G plan.
I never get the LTE in the notifications bar just 4G and my signal will go from full bars to nothing.
Another interesting observation -although it might have been coincidence, when I noticed I was in No Service I tapped the back of the phone like anyone would when frustrated and low and behold, it came back online!
The evidence of a hardware problem reading the SIM is growing.....2nd phone showing the same issue though ????, very odd.
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I am using mine on att and I am experiencing the same issue.
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i think the issue is the phone not reading the sim card properly. I'm the "preparing sim card" pop-up has something to do with it also
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I am using mine on att and I am experiencing the same issue.
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I am about to receive my rogers one x too and use with att. Do I need to setup apn myself for lte? Or do I need a new sim from att?
I have my Rogers HOX unlocked for Telus, I haven't lost cell usage but I do get loss of data connection all the time... I go into Gmail or YouTube and it says no connection retry.. Hit retry and it good.. pain in as but that's what I get for unlocking it...
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My AT&T HOX is doing this too, network drops off and it gets stuck on EDGE.
Just started yesterday. I've had the phone since launch last Sunday.
Unfotunetly i have the same problem. i rooted my HOX (AT&T) to use another service. but my new service is not working properly, signal is always too weak. Is there anyone who knows to solve? HELP NEEDED...
This is weird I have had my One X for about two weeks and have never experienced a signal drop I've always been one LTE or a maybe for a few hours when I drive out to 4G or something, but never an actual drop. Not sure if this helps but I flashed the Asia Radio and I am using the Nocturnal xi40 rom.
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Nabeel Kiani said:
This is weird I have had my One X for about two weeks and have never experienced a signal drop I've always been one LTE or a maybe for a few hours when I drive out to 4G or something, but never an actual drop. Not sure if this helps but I flashed the Asia Radio and I am using the Nocturnal xi40 rom.
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thx for your help. but could you pls explain me how did you flashed the radio. and is this rom works for HOX AT&T model. as you know there are diffrences between global HOX and AT&T HOX.
I flashed the radios through the TWRP recovery, and the the roms posted in the other thread have all so far worked for my rogers HTC One X.
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hello
I set up my unlocked i727r to work with mobilicity, however, it has very crappy reception. I tried the t989 KID modem, the vk1, the telus kj3, and the blaze modems. They all give me weak signal (anywhere between 0-2 bars with mobilicity), whereas my galaxy nexus has 3 bars. It tends to lose connection when I go inside a supermarket, and sometimes disconnects from the network and doesnt want to reconnect. I have the gingerbread, and I want to keep it. So, is anyone using this phone with mobilicity and getting a good signal strength? Do you mind sharing with me what you did?
thanks
Bars aren't really a good indication of signal.
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Bars aren't really a good indication of signal.
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yea what i meant to say is that its very unstable, it would take a long time to dial a number, it has crappy reception, etc. Right now my phone is connected to the mobilicity network, but under mobile network state in status, it says disconnected. What could be the cause of that?
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yea what i meant to say is that its very unstable, it would take a long time to dial a number, it has crappy reception, etc. Right now my phone is connected to the mobilicity network, but under mobile network state in status, it says disconnected. What could be the cause of that?
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Your carrier?
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Mobilicity Canada
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I was searching around and some people said that they do a combination of radios, how does that work?
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Mobilicity Canada
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No, I'm saying your signal probably sux because of you carrier, not your phone. As for flashing radios read read read.
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madmajd said:
yea what i meant to say is that its very unstable, it would take a long time to dial a number, it has crappy reception, etc. Right now my phone is connected to the mobilicity network, but under mobile network state in status, it says disconnected. What could be the cause of that?
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Disconneted because data is disabled or you are connected to Wifi. Disable wifi and connect to network data, check again
Did u try the new t989 ule ics radio? Ive read good things.
Nope, I have surfed through ALL the posts with radios in them and never heard of that one, would u mind posting the link here? Thanks
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Oh ok, yeah it could be
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I'm more or less in the same boat... in particular upload rate is horrible ~40kbps.
OP: any progress in your experience with mobilicity and in your search of a suitable modem?
It's the network not the phone. I was with them & got the same results with a Lumia 710 & the 727r. I tried all the different modems & the best is the Blaze 4G IMO.
Did you guys also have to change your kernels to get it to work?
I have tried the usual 4 radios combined with SKYICS and also with the stock OS (latest Rogers version) without much success.
I get some signal but as soon as I try to call the phone would hang on me (it would dial out incidentally).
Thanks a lot
Nope didn't have to do anything other then flash the recovery, to allow me to flash the radios from zip files. The Rom and kernel were stock GB or ICS. I did go into *#2263# and set WCDMA option from all to 1700, & the mobile network option from automatic to manual selecting Mobilicity or its network ID #.
Actually a couple of weeks ago I flashed the t989 juggernaut rom, with the faux kernel and vkl1 radio and its somewhat better.