I recently returned to owning a htc sensation. Atm it is on gingerbread 2.3.4 and I was looking forward to upgrading it to ics. However when I checked for updates nothing came up. I have a z710e like I did before and I previously was able to install it on a sensation with that model extension.
Any Suggestions?
Uh, root and install a rom.
I Don't Want To Do That
Then Wait And Hope That The Update Gets Sent To You.
Lizman said:
I Don't Want To Do That
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Rooting and custom Rom really make your device run better all around. Why wouldn't you want to root? You have so many more options and tons of customization on ab rooted device. Personally I couldn't imagine not rooting! You will see, custom roms are much more stable than stock device. On stock I got rebooted and terrible battery, never had that happen on a custom Rom . But it's your choice . If you don't want to root your limited to what you can do. Also you'll be waiting for God knows how long for your update... Choice is yours.
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I Know The Benefits Of Rooting
I Want The Stock This Time For My Own Reasons
Does Someone Have Some Proper Suggestions Regarding My Problem With My Update Not Showing?
Lizman said:
I Know The Benefits Of Rooting
I Want The Stock This Time For My Own Reasons
Does Someone Have Some Proper Suggestions Regarding My Problem With My Update Not Showing?
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We have no idea why it's not showing, it's also out of our hands. If you want to wait for stock, that's fine, but there's really nothing we can do about it. Sorry.
Download The ICS RUU For Your CID And Flash That Way
So... I used to be rooted until my old tbolts 4g data bit the dust and I had to get a replacement. I have my new tbolt in my hand as we speak but I'm faces with a dilema. Should I root or wait for stock ics Rom to he released and live with that. I've been waiting a long time for this update as I have had the tbolt for almost 2 years now. What is your guys' opinion on this. I know it would be nice to root and debloat the thing as my battery drains so quickly these days , but maybe with the promise of ics we will see improvements? Also how long before a custom Rom is released when the ota for ics hits our phones?
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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Thanks for the response! I just know if I root I won't be able to install the ota update.... Am I wrong?
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OTA's are just patches to take you to the next level. RUU's are released at the same time (speaking specifically about ICS here). With S-Off you can do whatever you want as far as installing things. Honestly it's pretty pointless to not S-Off if it's available to your device.
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
Will the ruu install radios and changes to hboot (if there are changes to hboot)?
RUU's are EVERYTHING. OTA's are just the parts that were updated from the last version. Usually OTA's end up causing little issues here and there. The RUU's do a full install on the phone.
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
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+1 The devs here would make a stock version that's an exact replica of it anyway.
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recDNA said:
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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If you are S-Off you can go in any direction you want to. S-On could be a problem if they patch our S-Off exploit (which i strongly doubt, but a possibility nonetheless) This is why it's pointless to have a phone without S-Off if it's available.
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
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And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!
Hey everyone.....noob here...currently phone is ICS 4.0.4, rooted, unlocked, TB installed, CWM recovery installed, ohh and ota rootkeeper is installed as well, even though ive heard it doesnt work on our SGIII...did the debugfs route to do it as im not a brainiac....wish i was......everything else stock... Chicago area verizon OTA 4.1.1 is now popping up after every restart to update....i'm torn...whats to gain from JB update?...i know its goin to break my root....and if i let it update,what are the steps i need to take to let it OTA and what are my options as of today to rerroot and everything else ive done? Thanks xda....because of everyone here....i was able to get even this far.
Why not just flash one of the many jellybean ROMs that are posted on XDA? You'll keep the unlocked boot loader and root.
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OTA should i or not
weblexa said:
Why not just flash one of the many jellybean ROMs that are posted on XDA? You'll keep the unlocked boot loader and root.
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thats 1 option i never thought of, i'll have to see if there is one where everything works and theres no problems with the install as long as i follow step by step...thanks
There are many that work. Just go to Verizon s3 android development and take your pick. You could stay stock or look at others with new features. Synergy and galaxymod both have multi window working. Beans 8 Is touch wiz based but has aosp features and looks. Clean rom is very stable and is basically stock with some performance enhancements.
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As I was walking out of Verizon with my new GS3 last week it started to update. I found a good guide in the development section that let me root JB and unlock the bootloader. I was reading about it and while watching the video I just followed along. Painless and quick so I'm rooted and have my titanium back. I just moved over from a rooted original Droid.
Bill
Edit here is the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
Ok, so I'm no stranger to modding and XDA but every phone I've always had I always flashed custom Roms immediately so I'm not sure how it works on stocks. I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader on the stock ROM with Franco's kernel. Can I install system updates or is it best to do that on stock kernel and does being rooted with unlocked boot loader affect it? Thanks for any help.
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The OTA should contain the stock kernel, so you would just need to flash the custom one afterwards. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't see why it should be different from what I said...
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The OTA should contain the stock kernel, so you would just need to flash the custom one afterwards. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't see why it should be different from what I said...
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I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear: most likely the OTA itself contains the stock kernel, therefore it installs it instead of whatever you already have. After the OTA you should just have to (re-)flash your custom one back and be good to go.
C-4Nati said:
I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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worse case scenario you can flash an update zip but like previously mentioned the kernel is not what generally causes the issue but the recovery. I do not think you will have an issue but hey there are some nice custom roms out there with options give one a shot. Just nandroid you current setup
Remember custom roms are running 4.4.4
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worse case scenario you can flash an update zip but like previously mentioned the kernel is not what generally causes the issue but the recovery. I do not think you will have an issue but hey there are some nice custom roms out there with options give one a shot. Just nandroid you current setup
Remember custom roms are running 4.4.4
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Yeah I know, I always use custom Roms cause I generally have phones that have some OEM ui plastered on so since this is already close to stock I'm going to ride it out and see how CM does updating for a bit. Especially since they promised L within 3 months after it's release.
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Yeah I know, I always use custom Roms cause I generally have phones that have some OEM ui plastered on so since this is already close to stock I'm going to ride it out and see how CM does updating for a bit. Especially since they promised L within 3 months after it's release.
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I hear ya but they working on a Android L rom in development now just so you know... I ran the version for my N4 and it is a lovely OS :good: