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hey guys,
bought my samsung captivate two days ago and i love it. from reading all the posts about how rooting is awesome i finally took the plunge and rooted my phone with the one click root program. followed the directions to the teeth, everything went fine. even went as far as downloading clockwork and backing up my rom.
few hours later, im totally blown that i rooted my phone. i realized i threw away my warranty.
is there ANY way to unroot the phone and make it totally stock and make it seem like the phone was never altered? i read some answers of "yeah" and some answers of "once your rooted, you can't get back" (i remember reading about an article about how some android phones like the nexus one, once you root theres no going back period). the program i used had a unroot button but im not sure if that would wipe everything away to factory settings and erase all traces of the root.
i know im effing stupid for not thinking it threw. but hey, its good that i came to my senses before i loaded up an os.
to be clear, my phone is just rooted. nothing else. im not running cognitive rom or anything. its running the stock samsung 2.1.
so can anyone PLEASE PLEASE help me solve this problem?
im a total noob when it comes to android.
it took me 20 minutes doing that one click from reading the directions over and over again lol.
i need some step by step directions for stupid people
okay, so i followed the directions to unroot. the programs that were installed when i rooted seemed to have disappear. to be extra sure, i reformatted my sd card and than factory restored the phone (from settings/privacy). quick question though, after i pressed "factory reset" my phone rebooted and than for a quick second i saw the same screen i saw when i rooted (the black screen with the yellow font? looked like a system command prompt i guess). it came on for a sec and than disappeared and it booted regularly. did that happen because i did a factory reset or did that happen because im still rooted?
wtf is wrong with me. i just want my unrooted captivate back (and my warranty lol)
odin to stock with master clear.
There's a thread under android development something with "stock rom" that should restore your phone back to factory.
If you did all of that then you are definitely back to stock now & theres no way of detecting your phone was rooted. You could of gotten away with just using one click to unroot. Thats all I did when I returned mine after a week because my gps never worked at all. I dont think they even did anything to check if it was rooted or anything. Hows your gps on the new one by the way? Mines still bad but at least it sees some satellites now. My old one had a hardware problem where gps wouldn't do anything at all.
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When you use odin to flash back to stock does that restore the AT&T bloatware as well? Or should I use TiB when I first get the phone to get the bloatware back on?
Thanks,
JOe K.
After trying to exchange my phone for another phone (thinking the GPS is a hardware issue) I had rooted and flashed a custom rom. I reverted back using ODIN master clear and ODIN 2.1 rom (Which puts bloatware and everything on it) and there's no way to detect it. The only time it will truly void your warranty (I believe) if you go into the store with a custom rom or if you go into the store with a bricked phone and they figure out you were modifying your phone.
thanks for the answers guys! why is it that you cant "unroot" a nexus one? i heard they'll always be able to tell if your rooted once you do it.
Hi guys,
I've been playing around with my Nexus S for about 3 weeks and I've decided to root it, but I have some question, I've been searching the answers in older posts but it's not quite clear yet, hope you can help me.
When I unlocked the bootloader, what kind of data will be wiped? It's just the SD card or also all the apps I've already downloaded? what about SMS, pictures and videos?
Is there anyway I can backup that data considering I haven't root it yet???
Thanks in advance.
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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lol what? its nobodys fault but your own. all the resources are available, just because somebody isnt responding to your threads and holding your hand to restore a nandriod backup doesnt make it a "lack of a community".. and your phone isn't bricked, it can be recovered but you are too close-minded and cant install Clockwork Recovery / get drivers working
The data that will be wiped are most likely your SMS/settings/etc. This is standard procedure. And its something you'll go through a lot when you are using custom ROMs.
There are complete instructions for rooting, unrooting and unbricking your phone. It's all here in the forums, and many other places, you just have to look and learn. I read for two weeks before I unlocked and loaded a ROM into my NS.
If you don't have a need to root your phone I wouldn't do it just because you can. I wanted to run the Voodoo app so I had to root and load a ROM. It took a little while but it was painless and I liked learning about the Android system.
You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.
It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!
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It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!
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its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
"brick" describes a device that cannot function in any capacity (such as a device with damaged firmware)
In the strictest sense of the term, bricking must imply that software error has rendered the device completely unrecoverable without some hardware replacement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_(electronics)
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I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
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You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.
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What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?
Make a nandroid backup first and foremost! Use Titanium Backup to make a backup of all your apps. If you want a backup of your sms, go sms pro really does a great job of that. Dont forget your contacts as well! Then copy your sd card and place it on the hard drive of your computer. When you unlock the bootloader, it does wipe your sd card. Once your unlocked and rooted, you should be able to restore everything once you replace the copy of your sd card back on the phone. Coming over from a Vibrant, I was nervous about rooting the phone but its an easy process. Just take your time and do lots of reading! Hope this helps!
Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
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Woops..yeah, your right there. Too quick to reply. I followed this method here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
and had no problems. Once you get unlocked/rooted and clockwork recovery, then you can make the fore mentioned backups. Export your contacts to the sd card then copy the sd card to the hard drive of your computer before unlocking the boot loader. I do not think apps get affected during the sd wipe unless you have them stored there.
zephiK said:
its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
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i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
may i suggest a noob proof guide|? i postted 1 in the htc desire forum and people love it. yesterday i returned a moto xoom because ti was overheating , got a nexus s and 2day il b returning that because it wont turn on. can any1 help me think of a good idea i can tell the future shop return people?
kmhil said:
I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?
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you are forced to lose your data to initially root your device. then after that point, you can always create backups and never lose data again while you switch between ROMs and flashing etc. but i think to initially root, you have to lose everything. not the sd card though.
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
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Do keep in mind, we don't have an i9020 or an i9023, we have an i9020A So the instruction out there all need to take that into considerations. I rooted mine fine with no "Bricking" I had to follow the instruction for the i9023, but it worked. I figure it took me all of 1 minute to root my phone. Admitedly, the "One click root" for the Galaxy series was easier.
I try to make it a point to never be the "First" person to do something on their phone. Much safer that way.
I also find it very unusual that you've managed to brick two phones, I've also had the pleasure of owning the telus fascinate, and not once did i get it bricked, I tried Bionics, CM7, Darky's and a bunch of other ones. Just never mess with the boot loader. When you went back to stock, did you make sure it was a stock ROM for the I9020A?
Have you tried connecting the USB to a computer, holding the volume up (or in the case of the galaxy, both up and down) While powering on the device? I've had to use that a few times to recover my galaxy (Thank you odin!!).
Now in regards to the OP, I would recommend using a program like Ti to back everything up, unlock the bootloader then restore from Ti, it's a little more hassel, but you can pretty much keep your settings and data. Personally, i rooted my phone before configuring a single thing on it.
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Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
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there is no way to make a good backup without rooting.
basically yes, you will lose all your settings
there are a few apps you can use to backup your apk before unlocing/rooting the phone.
look for App admin on market https://market.android.com/details?id=az.mecid.appadmin&feature=search_result
the stuff backed to SD does not get wiped
only the internal storage stuff
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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i took about 12 minutes total to unlock my bootloader, flash clockwork, and flash a custom rom. its not difficult if you pay attention to what you read. youre phone is not bricked. btw, i read your threads. if you werent so demanding, i would have helped. use the pdanet website the next time you need to install the proper driver, and follow the directions that they give you.
When I unlocked I used Astro to back up my apps, I turned on the Google data sync to back up my contacts and I did a back up of my SD on my computer.
When the unlock and recovery was done NS asked for my Google account then it restored all my contacts, Astro restored all my apps and I restored my files from my computer. A few steps but not difficult at all.
You will have to redo your accounts and data, and maybe an app or two won't load but the market will show them installed, just reinstall any that didn't.
Make sure you follow the directions properly in the forum. I had to use two computers to get it to work, but it did work and nothing was damaged.
With all that said.... This was the first time I have ever owned or altered an Android phone. Sure I was nervous... Now I'm hooked.. haha
I wound up using NSCollab .17 so far so good..
First thing I did when I got my phone was fastboot oem unlock.
Even if you don't want to root, use another ROM. Fastboot unlock it so your data doesn't get wiped.
If your hardware and everything seems okay, then flash Clockwork Recovery and do a nandroid backup so you can restore to pre-flashing point if you need it for OEM purposes.
Afterwards, go crazy and flash like theres no tomorrow and find something that you'll like.
And agreed with simms. You've made so made so many threads about this. I would help you step by step but I've been busy so I can't do that anymore. But if you search, you'll find about two or three threads where I did help somebody get their phone to a working state.
The basic idea is... if your phone doesn't boot but you can get to recovery.
- Download a ROM or Nandroid backup
- Install USB drivers
- Fastboot oem unlock (if you haven't)
- fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (or whatever the recovery.img is named) should be in /sdk/tools
- reboot into recovery (adb reboot recovery)
- mount and storage: mount USB, put the nandroid backup or ROM onto phone
- nandroid restore or flash a ROM (wipe factory,dalvik,cache --> flash ROM (if its CM7.. flash gapps afterwards)
- reboot
your phone boots. alternatively, you can use Odin but thats not a popular method but the choice is available if you wish to go towards that approach
in the worse worse possible case scenario there is always ODIN to the rescue
Why did you guys wait at all?
Once i got the phone i immediately plugged it into my computer and rooted it.
Hi guys,
First of all I want to apologize with everybody here but I need help and I know that I might be drowning in a cup of water but right now I feel very frustrated because I can't find the answer to this...
ok, now I have a T-Mobile G2X, I was reading how to root, do backup, recovery, etc, and I was doing some research of how to go back to stock with all the t-mobile apps, so I went to a thread that was explaining that he had to use first clockworkmod before doing anything, so what I did was just plug my phone, activated the debug mode and click on a script file from the new version 4.x of clockworkmod, after that it messed up the phone started to force close apps, so I turned it off and back on, my surprise.... cycle reboot
now I cannot do anything with it, if I press the vol down button with the power it goes to a screen that says S/W upgrade Please wait while upgrading, I left it there hoping that it will come up soon
Can you guys help me??, I'm very frustrated
Thank you.
What had you actually done to your phone prior to clicking on the script? Had you already rooted it?
it was not rooted, i think that's why this happened, but i thought that wasnt needed since i was trying to do a backup BEFORE doing anything, ha stupid me
Did you try to do a factory reset by holding down the volume down and power button?
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^ What tq745 said.
And then follow this guide word for word if you want to root/flash roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715
I tried the factory reset and came a different screen but what I needed to do is to hold down the buttons for more time, now at least it boots
I still want to try the rooting, so let me have this clear, rooting the device doesn't delete any apps or config right? this is until you start messing with the roms and that.
thanks for the help guys!
yes rooting does not delete apps u do that yourself lol. it gives u superuser access, the ability to remove bloatware or freeze them (tmobiles apps) you can change the fonts, super cid, the ability to have another carrier on your phone if wanted, install custom roms and kernels, tether, and backup apps with titanium backup, which i suggest if u do root, awesome app and tool . basically u cant do this with a stock unrooted device.....also our super one click root is pretty simple just one click after u have lg's drivers installed, and its just as easy to unroot if u had too (like bringing it back to tmobile, warranty exchange).... to unroot its the same program just click on it and u will see unroot too.....pretty effin awesome...
wow now I understand it more, thanks for the explanation friend.
I'm following the tutorial that phburks posted, in there is the backup process, I hope everything goes perfect (fingers crossed)
thanks again!
The "script" was probably that NVFlash app that was created. Being improperly NVFlashed is why its stuck.
You need to remove the battery, hold both volume keys down while inserting the USB cable. Then follow the steps of NVFlashing.
Once you NVFlash and have a good clockworkmod setup, then you need to reset data, clear caches, and flash a good rom.
I am a noob I don't even know what to call my phone shezz. Alright I am going to keep this simple. I am very very new to this smart phone thing. I have never had one. I know computers very well and have lots of exp with them but none with a smart phone. I have had a lot of trouble getting the right info on my phone. I have read a bit about everything but some things apply to my phone some to others some don't make sense. So some basic stuff.
I tried to flash my phone using odin. I did it right but it didn't seem to work. I installed super user, and I clockwork. My questions are this.
Is it possible I changed system systems on my phone when I flashed it. I put superuser on it, and box system and clockwork and I tried using odin (I might have) im not sure. I don't know if I changed the rom.
Why changed the rom? Like... my phone has all the programs on it I want and it looks and feels how I want. I have changed it a lot before I rooted it. So whats the point of a new rom which im not sure if I have or not? What else can I change with flashing? I tried installing some stuff I just don't know if I did.
I can change the rom for sure I Know but what else? Kernal? The built?
At this point should I clean the phone wipe it? Then reinstall my apps? I heard when flashing the rom you wipe the storage so do I need to do this?
Also I am using 1.2gigs of system memory then there is usb storage then sd storage then external sd storage. This confuses me? Did I break my phone arr.
I don't get how moving apps to the SD card helps? I tried but the Sd card is still blank. Am I confusing the things? I do have a extra sd card in it.
OK. What I want is speed better wifi these things. So Should I flash my rom? is there a good stable rom for my phone? What else is worth changing? I don't mind doing it I just need make sure I can get all my apps back and that I do it right.
OK last questions. If I change my mind and don't want a rooted phone can I put it back easy? I have read how to unroot but can't I just reinstall factory defaults or is that not a option to unroot it? I have backed up deleted back up deleted and so forth I really just want to stream line everything get the best programs for rooting, rom, backup, accces, yada yada. I tried looking in forums but I get such mixed info and random posts I don't understand.
So again.
Please feel free to link good threads or forums with the info I need. I am so lost right now.
I don't mind rooting my phone but I want to do it right for the best results. Please help me do that.
I want to make sure if I don't decide to flash it with new rom or whatever that I can just undo everything go back to the orignal phone and just take more care installing my apps again to not get to much crap that I know is slowing it down.
I also want info on getting rid of bloatware I don't need.
PLEASE HELP GOD!! I just want to do this right I feel like I overclocked my cpu but I have to low of ram and its overheating. I feel just like I have this great possible thing in front of me and im messing it up.
Thank you. Basic info.
Want to clean flash it get it going kick ass. Help me!
xxsicknessxx said:
Alright I am going to keep this simple.
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And yet you post a book's worth of reading.
I'll try to read it all when my attention span is behaving properly. Usually after I eat a full meal.
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I am a noob I don't even know what to call my phone shezz. Alright I am going to keep this simple. I am very very new to this smart phone thing. I have never had one. I know computers very well and have lots of exp with them but none with a smart phone. I have had a lot of trouble getting the right info on my phone. I have read a bit about everything but some things apply to my phone some to others some don't make sense. So some basic stuff.
I tried to flash my phone using odin. I did it right but it didn't seem to work. I installed super user, and I clockwork. My questions are this.
Is it possible I changed system systems on my phone when I flashed it. I put superuser on it, and box system and clockwork and I tried using odin (I might have) im not sure. I don't know if I changed the rom.
Why changed the rom? Like... my phone has all the programs on it I want and it looks and feels how I want. I have changed it a lot before I rooted it. So whats the point of a new rom which im not sure if I have or not? What else can I change with flashing? I tried installing some stuff I just don't know if I did.
I can change the rom for sure I Know but what else? Kernal? The built?
At this point should I clean the phone wipe it? Then reinstall my apps? I heard when flashing the rom you wipe the storage so do I need to do this?
Also I am using 1.2gigs of system memory then there is usb storage then sd storage then external sd storage. This confuses me? Did I break my phone arr.
I don't get how moving apps to the SD card helps? I tried but the Sd card is still blank. Am I confusing the things? I do have a extra sd card in it.
OK. What I want is speed better wifi these things. So Should I flash my rom? is there a good stable rom for my phone? What else is worth changing? I don't mind doing it I just need make sure I can get all my apps back and that I do it right.
OK last questions. If I change my mind and don't want a rooted phone can I put it back easy? I have read how to unroot but can't I just reinstall factory defaults or is that not a option to unroot it? I have backed up deleted back up deleted and so forth I really just want to stream line everything get the best programs for rooting, rom, backup, accces, yada yada. I tried looking in forums but I get such mixed info and random posts I don't understand.
So again.
Please feel free to link good threads or forums with the info I need. I am so lost right now.
I don't mind rooting my phone but I want to do it right for the best results. Please help me do that.
I want to make sure if I don't decide to flash it with new rom or whatever that I can just undo everything go back to the orignal phone and just take more care installing my apps again to not get to much crap that I know is slowing it down.
I also want info on getting rid of bloatware I don't need.
PLEASE HELP GOD!! I just want to do this right I feel like I overclocked my cpu but I have to low of ram and its overheating. I feel just like I have this great possible thing in front of me and im messing it up.
Thank you. Basic info.
Want to clean flash it get it going kick ass. Help me!
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LOL to much to read will have to take a.d.d. meds first which I don't know n e one with any so....it wont happen
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Have you ever flashed a rom? Or overclocked before?
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you didnt keep that simple AT ALL.
why do you think you need to do anything at all if you have no idea what it is you are even talking about?
leave it stock. keep reading. dont do anything to change your phone/rom until you UNDERSTAND that you are not playing with a childs toy.
if you dont know what anything is called, and you dont know if you actually rooted or not, or flashed a rom or not, PROVES you have no business doing anything yet.
SLOW DOWN AND READ. LEARN and stop trying to jump into whatever video or tutorial you find on the internet.
I have overclocked my computers before ,water cooled, flashed bios. yad yada..
First smart phone. ever. My last phone was 20 bucks and I tossed it when I was done. that was 5 years ago. I am just getting into smart phones.
Really what I want is this.
I want a streamlined phone minus the stuff I don't need. To increase my bat. life. increase my productivity, increase my wifi if possible in crease my speed. More bank for my buck. But not knowing much about smart phones I would rather just do as little as possible and then not touch it again. Like flash it (whatever that entails) with a new rom then push the optimize button then be happy. Get what I mean? I Don't mind overclocking but I want this thing stable. I would rather it be last fast then have to tweak it every few days ok? Is there a rom with tweaks already installed? Do I have to format my phone first?
I have clockwork, busybox, superuser.
For sure I rooted my phone for sure I have clockwork installed. I rooted it.
Now what? I like messing with programs and such and themes and stuff but I don't want to tweak it a lot. I want it to be tweaked. get it?
Any info by great. A website with a stable tweaked rom. a link to a how to on how to install that rom. and just be kind. I don't know smart phones. Thank you so much for any help. Sorry I know it wasn't simple. Because I want only a basic thing. A faster phone. But I have tons of questions. Thanks.
Also be nice to know what I did to it already? I mean could I of changed to rom on accident? I used odin? I don't know what that is but I follwed the directions but it didn't root after I followed the instuctions so I turned to clockwork and then it worked. I was following rooting websites one made me think I have a new rom. But i never flashed it. thanks for the info.
If you did anything your on stock rooted rom. You would know if you flashd a rom u cant accidently or unknowingly flash a rom. Cwm is for flashing roms you download a rom put the zip on your sd card boot into cwm wipe data and cache and install zip from sd card. If u download a rom not intended for your phone say goodbye to your phone. You sound in a big hurry to flash flash flash. But i do not think u realize how very easy it is to break you phone doing this. Read read read read read read trust everyone telling you this read what rooting is what roms are what kernel's are and read how too root how to install roms and the differencrs op's have in there roms as to which wil best suit your needs. Do yourself a big favor dont flash or attempt to until u have done a good deal of reading up. If u dont think this is the case browse around on xda and look how many please help? Brickd my phone? Please help tried to root and...... threads you find
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Having said that if you still wish too preceed go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1383 it is where the roms for ournphone are posted.....
And if u run into issues go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342348
Its how to reaturn to stock and fix a soft brick. I would bookmark this link because it can solve almost all problems you may possibly have aside from a physical hardware failure
This is why i don't root other people phones anymore. If you dont know what it is and what its for then you don't need it. I no longer root friends because it turns me into there own personal tech support. READ SOME FREAKEN FORUMS FOR GOD SAKES!
Amen to that. I have rooted 3 of my girlfriends phones and my old roomates and i had to constantly fix there phones for them after they soft brickd them
your right after reading a lot more Im not ready to flash. I got some questions readings are not answering for me.
I have the firmware gingerbread I believe. and its uckj2 ver kernil 2.6.35.11
does the gingerbread uckj2 mean anything? I don't get the updating you don't have to format. Because I hate the idea of getting my apps back unless I can just use TIT recover once I get my new rom.
I know im going to do this but one more question. When they release a new system on my phone how do I update? Or do I not.
I just.. want to get this right. I know your right. I just... don't get how I find the right rom for my phone. right ver. right kernl. right firmware.
I also don't get why I have to clean my phone first. And how to make sure I can just get my apps right back.
What about all my settings? and my programs to GO launcher and stuff. I got my phone all nifty and pretty but I Really really really want to start with a fresh rom I would feel better. I want to do this . thanks
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This is why i don't root other people phones anymore. If you dont know what it is and what its for then you don't need it. I no longer root friends because it turns me into there own personal tech support. READ SOME FREAKEN FORUMS FOR GOD SAKES!
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Hmm you got 3 posts.... I don't think im going to take any of your advise. I bet you don't root your friends phone because you have know friends. Just my guess. What was the point of posting that? I clearly posted that I am reading forums. I just am having trouble getting to the info I need to read in the 100's of phone forums out there. Its confusing me with ver. kernal. Operating system, apps, firmware, built, just little words that I don't know where they fit in on the smart phone. There are a lot of abbreviation.
Anyways. Thanks for the helpful posts. Like I said I know a lot about computers im good with them but I have never had anything like a smart phone in my life. Its so new. Even though I have caught on very fast and already managed to root my phone in about 15min of searching. Im just confused about really the words. I don't understand a lot of the short hand im seeing in these forums. So its hard understand 100percent whats being said. Anyways.. Again thanks for trying to help.
that was uncalled for, saying he had no friends. however rude you think it was, its called brutal honesty.
you seem so hellbent on 'making your phone cool' (which by the way, is NOT the intent of this website), that you seem to be foregoing the basic rule of LEARNING. i understand that all this is new terminology to you, so i implore you, to STOP. stick to XDA forums and go through the basics of LEARNING what everything is.
we all started out as noobs, and we all had to go through the paces of LEARNING what everything meant. Nobody here came to the website already knowing everything there is to know, and all the info you need is already in the forums. stop asking for a handholding session and teach yourself something worthwhile. if you dont have time for it, then you have no business hacking on your phone.
heres some basics for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093062
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343619
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13109282#post13109282
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282679
stick to the galaxy s2 skyrocket forums mostly and you will find a lot of the info you need regarding YOUR phone. dont go wandering off looking at roms for another phone, even if its the regular galaxy s2.
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i think this post sums up XDA in a nutshell:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
Ok for starters here is the easiest way to root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=13407
Next i would suggest go on android market and download the app.called.rom manager
Install rom manager
Open rom manager and grant it super user permission choose to install cwm recovery for the tmobile galaxy s2 ( yes you have an att phone but just do that it works its the same phone)
Now u have a rooted stock rom with cwm recovery.
For now i woukd just run that until developer support picks up and more roms are developed
Download an app on the android market called titanium back up
Open it grant super user permission.. click menu then batch then find back up all user apps. Now u have all your apps backd up. When u find a rom u like . Download it place it on you sd card. Open rom manager choose install rom from sd card. Check wipe data and wipe cache.
It will reboot into cwm and install the rom for you. When finished choose reboot system now. The volume up and volume down keys is how u change your selection in cwm. The power key is like enter/select.
After your rebooted on the new rom get on the android market download titanium back up and open it click menu batch restore your apps.
This is just suming up alot of what u need to know to flash roms and restore apps. Which u will learn by reading
Once you understand those basics then its time to start flashing and make sure u have odin and the .tar file u need handy. Because restoring apps with system data can cause force closes. I just restore apps not data. And you will at some point soft brick your phone or have a failure that u need odin to save u. Its happend to all of us
You can also make a backup in cwm incase of a bad flash its called a nandroid back up.
I have all the basic programs needed including odin. I understand the risks for sure. A soft brick is? hmm. I backed up my files already however I dons't know if there on the exSD card. I see USB memory, Sd memory, and ex Sd memory and that in its self is confusing me. I will be upset if I backed up my files with Titanium back up and it put it on the part of the phone that will be flashed clean lol.
Guess im not nice *shrug* I don't need sarcastic answers. I asked for help. I admit I am a noob at this. I expect a little slack if im acting anxious to get into this. I tend to like to understand things right away and to get things perfect. I don't like my phone being clumsy. Like I said to make it clear I want to control my phone and stream line it to the way I will be using it. Sorry if I sounded noob in how I worded this at first.
Some good info and good links. I am reading. I guess I was hoping for some basic info so I would understand what im reading a bit better. The terminology is confusing me. Thank you for the help.
I am taking my time, I am reading as much as I can. Its just ..... taking me awhile to get everything strait. Need cliff notes or something for this.
Im not rushing to brick my phone. I have burnt cpus before overclocking and understand the need to know what your doing. I just am impatient.
Thanks again for the +helpful posts. I appreciate it.
I think the problem is that you've come here looking for the easy way out, the 'quick fix' and there isn't one. These people aren't telling you to read the forums just because they don't feel like helping you. They are telling you to read because they can't help you until you do. While your questions in your opening post may seem simple to you, they would likely require half a book to explain if you have no foundation to work from.
If you're having trouble with terminology, google terms you don't understand. The best piece of advice I can give you is DON'T RUSH. It's the surest way to screw up your phone and likely turn you off of android altogether.
thank you. I understand
THANK YOU. There is a galaxy s2 and a galaxy skyrocket s2
DOH! I thought s2 was skyrocket2 no wonder Im having issues. Im reading info on two phones. Dang. That helps so muchhhhhh.
Thank you lol I do need to do some research.
I should of read your links before I posted my question. (sorry)
I will do my best to understand what im even asking next time.
Thank you.
See you later when I have done a bit more research.
Must clean the noob off *scrubs*
Sorry for any rudeness
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
gamer6592 said:
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??
buhohitr said:
Ok, so basically, you just want to unroot your phone? Go into super user and there is an option to unroot your phone OR, use any file explorer like ES explore, root explore and navigate to this directory /system/xbin and delete su file.
May I ask, what you about to do is really a big waist of time, it doesn't help you anyway in installing custom rom or make your phone run better!! what is the reason for this??
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1st: I bolded the part in your statement that I was talking about in my first post. I appreciate the help a lot, so no offense, but I have no idea what that sentence even meant.. Will you please speak more clearly, and, to be honest, dumb it down a lot for me. I seriously know nothing about this stuff.
2nd: I don't want help installing custom ROMs. I want to go back to the way my phone was BEFORE having to use any custom ROMs. In other words, I don't even want Jelly Bean on my phone the way it is anymore. I want Ice Cream Sandwich back (I'm pretty sure that was the last one, right? Lol) so that from THERE I can update using VERIZON's Jelly Bean update.
The reason is that I've had problems with my phone that I NEVER had before rooting/downloading this custom "nightly" ROM. The main problem, I can not play ANY games on my phone without it crashing minutes in. I have a Galaxy S3, for crying out loud, so the games obviously aren't too much for the phone itself to handle. I think the nightly ROM I downloaded was just a bit buggy.
Another main reason I want to is because I miss all of the developer options my phone had before, i.e screenshots by swiping hand over screen, Kies Air, etc.
If someone could please help me a bit more in depth I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks again!
gamer6592 said:
Hi, I'm sorry to ask this question as I'm sure it's one that "floods" your boards more often than most but I have not found a decent answer yet in the several topics I've browsed. Basically, like the topic says, I want my phone back the way it was before I rooted it and before I installed the custom ROM of Jelly Bean. I want it to go back to before like it was, so I can start receiving OTA updates again and get the "official" Jelly Bean update from Verizon. I don't want to do the whole "unlock your boot loader" thing anymore. I want my phone to be able to boot up the right way and NOT have Verizon try to brick my phone.
The main problems with these other topics I've browsed are 1: I don't want my phone to be "restored to the point that I could take it back into Verizon" because A: I don't need to take it back to Verizon and B: I still need all of my phone data. I don't want to lose my pictures, contacts, etc. Also, 2: because all of these other topic speak in gibberish to me. Everyone who responds to other people asking this question speak all technical and say it as if the topic creator has done this 1000 times. I need a step-by-step response PLEASE on exactly what I need to do. Saying "oh yeah use odin" tells me NOTHING. I need to know EVERY step to do this, I don't even know wth odin is.
Also, last question, I am backing my phone up by hooking it up to the computer via USB and dragging each folder and everything into a folder on my computer as a backup. That being said, since I want to UNDO my root and custom ROM and everything, are there any files I should NOT copy to my computer that might mess this up or make my phone think it's still rooted or anything?
If someone could PLEASE help me with a detailed guide on how to do this I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thank you!
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How bout this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1867253
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I assume you didn't root yourself. I would ask whoever did it for you to undo it.
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Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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kintwofan said:
Unfortunately if you want to go back to stock ICS (before the updates and everything) without root or unlocked boot loader you are going to lose all your phone data. That's the price you pay for rooting. But you are doing the right thing by copying all the files you want to your computer, I assume you're copying your internal SD card. The best you could do for apps is to use titanium backup and backup your apps, and SMS.
Then follow this guide to go back to ICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28530394
If you can't do this guide or don't understand it then I agree with the previous poster and get whoever rooted your phone top undo it.
Now that you are back on ICS reroot using the steps in the same guide I just linked download titanium backup and restore your apps and sms.
You can then select the option in the supersu app to full unroot.
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I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.
gamer6592 said:
I did it myself, eventually, but it was just as hard. So let me get this straight, you're saying that I need to follow that guide (I'm assuming the part that says how to Odin back from ROM etc), then I need to reroot in order for titanium backup to work so that I can restore everything, THEN unroot again? When you say reroot, will following that guide cause me to become unrooted already? Thx.
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You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
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kintwofan said:
You should follow section 5 if that guide to return your phone to sick ICS. It will be just like you got it from Verizon. This means no root and your internal SD wiped.
Then you will want to root that to restore your titanium backup that you've already made. Again that guide will show you how.
Sent from my LG spectrum (that's right) blazing fast on cm10!
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lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks
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lol ok I'll do that. And last Qs (I think lol) unrooting again is just as fast as clicking unroot in superuser? and then last but not least once I do will I be able to update OTA to jelly bean again? Cuz I still want JB I just want official JB. If worst comes to worst I just use that Kies Air program? Thanks
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Yes full unroot from app will unroot you. Or just delete the app and take the ota
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I'm really sorry to do this but.. Lol. This honestly should be my last Q. The rest seems quite clear to me but is the part of that guide under section 5 titled "*Flashing a Stock Radio with Odin or a Custom Recovery" applicable to what I'm trying to do as well? It's kind of offset like it's something optional/different but do I need to do that also to take my phone back today? Thanks.