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custom rom, root, ... general questions

right now i got a branded sensation. so far im quite satisfied with it. the only thing is, i would be glad to get root f.e. to get to the database file for the sense weather to add new locations.
for me i dont really need any custom rom by now. its my first android device and as said i like sense so far.
as i read through here, i think the problem for now is to get root on the device. if this would be possible, flashing new roms would be possible right?
so my question is:
is it more problematic to get root or to get a new rom? if htc will open the bootloader, will it be possible to get sense with root automaticlly? or is it still needed to find a way to get root in htc roms?
in custiom roms there should be no problem to get root right?
sorry if this all sounds lame or something but as said, this is my first android device. it try to read as much as i can
thx in advance for any answer!

Heyo. You can find all answers here: How to root the HTC Sensation

hehe saw this link allready in another thread can imagine what it is
but back to topic pls

crazy cat said:
Heyo. You can find all answers here: How to root the HTC Sensation
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I've got an error when I apply this but I can't tell you. What can I do?

pls sto pthat offtopic ****
i dont wann know how to do such things as by now it isnt possible. i just want to know if there will be unlocked bootloader, is it automaticly possible to get a root enabled stock rom?
or do we still need another way to get root on stock roms?

daSn00p said:
pls sto pthat offtopic ****
i dont wann know how to do such things as by now it isnt possible. i just want to know if there will be unlocked bootloader, is it automaticly possible to get a root enabled stock rom?
or do we still need another way to get root on stock roms?
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No. Unlocked bootloader will not automatically mean you'll get root. It's only a way for us to get root by another software running in the backround..
HTC already confirmed an unlocked bootloader in the near future..
For an offtopic discussion, custom roms will allways be better as they have no bloatware and includes tweaks to lots of stuff like ram management, oc kernels, gfx patches, deodexed and so on...
I hope this answered your question and please try to be nice on the forums.. people tend to reply nicer that way...
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daSn00p said:
pls sto pthat offtopic ****
i dont wann know how to do such things as by now it isnt possible. i just want to know if there will be unlocked bootloader, is it automaticly possible to get a root enabled stock rom?
or do we still need another way to get root on stock roms?
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I'll be nice, right now you will have to wait till the update comes out from HTC. Theres no other way right now. But next time please use the search button
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i was nice all the time just said stop that ot things.
READ MY POST: I KONW IT ISNT POSSIBLE NOW AND I DONT ASK FOR A METHODE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE ROOT OR CUSTOM ROM!
so isnt there a way to modify android and/or sense to get root on the stock fw? thought both are open source.
for sure this still requieres an open bootloader and maybe someone would say even this would be a custom rom

daSn00p said:
i was nice all the time just said stop that ot things.
READ MY POST: I KONW IT ISNT POSSIBLE NOW AND I DONT ASK FOR A METHODE TO DO ANYTHING LIKE ROOT OR CUSTOM ROM!
so isnt there a way to modify android and/or sense to get root on the stock fw? thought both are open source.
for sure this still requieres an open bootloader and maybe someone would say even this would be a custom rom
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Android really isnt fully Open Source, HTC Sense and their phones aint Open Source.. Even if it is running Android in the bottom, HTC owns Sense UI.
The bootloader is pretty much locking you untill it gets hacked or HTC releases its opened one..

You labeled the topic GENERAL questions, but didn't see fit to place it in the GENERAL or Q&A forum?
This is in no way development related.

daSn00p, please buy an iPhone. Android isn´t for you. You can´t sure, you don´t know how to use an form - you are the perfect iPhone user

crazy cat said:
Heyo. You can find all answers here: How to root the HTC Sensation
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I always love watching this, knowing all the well that we are waiting for htc to bless us with their knowledge...
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App

@all: stop ot pls
@crazycat: i would never buy an iphone. "You can´t sure, you don´t know how to use an form" doesnt make sense to me sorry, dunno what u want.

moved to Q&A
questions appear to be answered. flamers please stop the pettiness.
thread closed

[Q] So I want to unlock my bootloader...but?

So Ive rooted my Atrix4g, and I want to unlock my bootloader.
I understand the plus of doing this, and realize I cant turn back once this is done.
So I know this has been beat to death but...
Will I regret doing this?
Assuming I want a ICS Rom I have notice that they all have some slight bugs reported. Do I wait for the official Rom to be deployed or do you think all the bugs will be worked out by the time it is released.
Also when it is released will it be able to be flashed.
All these Questions are for a noob to the Atrix.
Any and all discussions will help.
Please don't try to convice me just some input of your experience.
ie* your favorite rom, things you wish was better... why you unlocked the bootloader. ect...

first of all- I DO NOT OWN AN ATRIX, BUT I HAVE EXPERIENCE ON MY EVO.
i say unlock for the best experience. some of the main worries can be easily fixed.
worried about warranty? you can always put it back to stock
worried about problems? rarely if you find the right guide and follow it will you have any trouble, and there are plenty of helpful people and tools to help fix it.
regarding the ICS rom- most roms at this stage for phones that have ICS ports are for the most part stable. just go through the Atrix development forum and find a few to try, and if you need to backup your data i recommend mybackup root.
hope this helps, I wanted to make sure you have some sort of reply.

You can do sone flashing i guess. use uncle google . or use thr search button for inquiries

actually, probably the best thing to do would be to post this in the Atrix Q&A forum, where youll get the best answers.

Complete newbie to android :/ Need help w/ rooting and stuff

Hi guys,
as i said in the title im completely new to all this. My mum has a desire s and i think the sense software is rubbish..hence i want to install MIUI. I have an iPhone which was extremely easy to JB and ive been searching around for help rooting/flashing an MIUI rom to the Desire S but damn it looks complex :| and im being extra cautious because its my mum's phone and i dont want to brick it.
After searching im still confused..
Do i need to root to flash MIUI?
If so, how? Can i use this method? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525100 Is there anything i need to do before and/or after I use this method?
Also, this is the MIUI rom i've found..http://forums.miui.us/showthread.php?2543-ROM-HTC-Desire-S-(saga)
It says the kernel is included in the download, but does that require a seperate installation?
Can someone help me please? Been looking around for days and just not getting it :/
Help will be greatly appreciated!

Sorry, I don't want to sound rude , but , have you checked the first couple of pages here on Q&A ? There are at least a couple of threads with similar querries ....
Plus, there's INDEX (with everything you require) for help , as always !
I'd suggest you read more , before even thinking of S OFF or Rooting!
Best of luck ....

i dunno about your 1st question but once u "jb" ur android, the kernel will be in the same zip so that when u flash the rom, u chg the rom and also the kernel. u will need to flash "gapps" as well if the is no play.market app.
as for your question 1 i use a different method so i cant comment on that.
but do be reminded to do each step and tick it off slowly once u done. DO NOT skip/miss a step. I actually took 2 days 2 nights reading through before rooting it, and i still made a mistake(as i was in a hurry for class, wrong timing for rooting). but once u read through the doing part will be quite fast. next thing u know u can flash different roms when ever ur mom gets bored of her phone interface.
try flashing different rom before and see which is faster and slicker.
try getting a "aokp" rom, it give u more to configure around. miui doesnt have a drawer and it looks alot like an iphone interface if that is what ur mom wants.

[Q] Will any damage happen to the phone if we use the unofficial roms ??

Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )

sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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It is pretty safe. If you are worried, wait for other people to try it first

I had a Gnex for two years, running mostly AOKP. You can trust all of the recognized developers here at XDA. If you don't want to risk it, ALWAYS make an nandroid backup.

About the only time you may damage a device is by installing a ROM for a different device. As @justmpm mentioned, if you're having doubts about a particular ROM wait for someone else to post their findings to see then if you wish to try it or not.
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.

make a nice backup and go on the safe side!

Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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Hi there.
Yes it is safe as long as
1- You make complete backup
2- Follow proper guide to root and install your rom
3- If you are rookie. Try those roms that have already been tested and running smoothly by others.
Hope that will help you out

Of course bad things could happen also don't forget those same problems could occur with a factory OTA update.
Besides that you could end up with features on your device either gone or broken which I imagine could also happen with a factory rom.
None of them are 100% perfect and safe it is just something you have to accept and take measures before hand to be sure you have backups and/or find knowledge you need to bring your device back from the dead.
These are also all reasons NO ONE should EVER blindly start flashing things to their device without doing some reasearch which is where most problems come from.
Just inform yourself about what you are doing and a lot of things are pretty safe to do or try.
This is about the best advice that could be given I just realized I kinda took the long way around of saying mostly the same thing haha.
shinobisoft said:
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.
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Well , If you flash a compatible ROM with your device correctly , nothing will go wrong !
but always take a nandroid backup just in case
the things that can harm your phone most of the time are just kernel related just don't overclock the CPU too much and do your best to avoid kernel tweaks
and every ROM on here has a list of bugs ! so using a custom ROM is totally safe BUT you need to check the bugs list before

sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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worst thing that could happed is you brick your device if that happens just find the ruu for your device and itll restore it to factory settings

justmpm said:
It is pretty safe. If you are worried, wait for other people to try it first
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That i alwsys do , & Thanks fro the advice :laugh:

shinobisoft said:
About the only time you may damage a device is by installing a ROM for a different device. As @justmpm mentioned, if you're having doubts about a particular ROM wait for someone else to post their findings to see then if you wish to try it or not.
Take your time and READ, READ, READ... That is the biggest mistake made around here. People see something they want and just jump in to it without doing any research or doing minimal research. There's in nothing wrong with being cautious.
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Ty fr the advice Ill keep this in mind , can u suggest me a 4.4 stable rom ?

NubzX said:
Of course bad things could happen also don't forget those same problems could occur with a factory OTA update.
Besides that you could end up with features on your device either gone or broken which I imagine could also happen with a factory rom.
None of them are 100% perfect and safe it is just something you have to accept and take measures before hand to be sure you have backups and/or find knowledge you need to bring your device back from the dead.
These are also all reasons NO ONE should EVER blindly start flashing things to their device without doing some reasearch which is where most problems come from.
Just inform yourself about what you are doing and a lot of things are pretty safe to do or try.
This is about the best advice that could be given I just realized I kinda took the long way around of saying mostly the same thing haha.
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you scared me , but thanks for the advice , can u sugg me a 4.4 stable rom ?

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sohailazam said:
Hey Guys .!
I have Recently Rooted me Gnex cuz its have been stoped getting updates ,
But then i figure out that Root & ROM'S are more fun tho
so basically im a rookie at this and i wanna know that is there any damage to the if we use the unofficial roms like ( slimkat 4.4 , [CM-11.0] [KRT16S] Dreams or CM11 )
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No, there's no problem if you flash it properly.....

I have bricked my Gionee GN 100 with a custom rom from another brand but it was the same model. So, take extreme care. I'm also not sure how to fix it. I have some backups but I used only cat. Screen is totally black the phone is technically dead.
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sohailazam said:
you scared me , but thanks for the advice , can u sugg me a 4.4 stable rom ?
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Sorry to scare you just giving you realistic info.
Basically flash nothing without researching what you are doing is the biggest point to be taken.

Pretty much what's already been said about making sure the rom is for your specific advice. Usually it's just a soft brick if you flash the wrong rom. The real damage comes using custom kernels the wrong way. i.e. overclocking the cpu/gpu too much. That can cause permanent hardware failure...

I hard briocked my galaxy s3 and had to send it out to to be Jtaged. It was my bad though, just be careful and double check your files prior to flashing. Have ODIN on your computer and be ready to reflash as stock image if you mess somehting up too

I have messed up flashing loads of times and even when I thought my phone(s) was gone for good, I always found a way to bring it back...even if it takes a few hours/days haha...

Casey707 said:
I hard briocked my galaxy s3 and had to send it out to to be Jtaged. It was my bad though, just be careful and double check your files prior to flashing. Have ODIN on your computer and be ready to reflash as stock image if you mess somehting up too
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Odin doesn't work for all devices. Some OMAP devices like Galaxy Tab, your S3, and a few others.
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you will be fine as long as you read and follow directions exactly as they are posted. There is always a possibility damage, but if you are careful, you will be fine.

Announcement , I will drop the support for LG G7

At first hi to all of you , you might know me I made twrp and the first root and patched stuff to be able to run AOSP , so but lately I came to the conclusion that the g7 is just not a good device for devs , so I unrooted installed stock and relocked my boot loader.
From this point of time any given support for the device by me will be ended and never picked up again.
Im sry but if u like the device and want rom etc you need to do it yourself now
J0SH1X

J0SH1X said:
At first hi to all of you , you might know me I made twrp and the first root and patched stuff to be able to run AOSP , so but lately I came to the conclusion that the g7 is just not a good device for devs , so I unrooted installed stock and relocked my boot loader.
From this point of time any given support for the device by me will be ended and never picked up again.
Im sry but if u like the device and want rom etc you need to do it yourself now
J0SH1X
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Hi, so sad to read this, but thanks for your great work. Can i ask you why you stop with this awesome phone? What is the main problem?

Sorry to hear those news, J0SH1X. Same question as kimo9hero, what did lead to the decision of yours? (If you allow us asking

@J0SH1X thanks for all your work, but I think we're naive if we consider any recent LG phone "developer friendly" since all their latest models were lacking support even from the company (very late updates).

Guys there is hope that we'll see modding and roms for our g7?

I don't think so, without at least one enthusiastic dev it's not possible. There are no resources so any potential dev have to figure everything out by himself, constantly risking to brick an expensive device. Luckily, the stock 10f rom works real well and the hardware is superb. One just risk living without some typical root utilities.
I would be happy for some dev picking it up, but I don't count on it.

xeizo said:
I don't think so, without at least one enthusiastic dev it's not possible. There are no resources so any potential dev have to figure everything out by himself, constantly risking to brick an expensive device. Luckily, the stock 10f rom works real well and the hardware is superb. One just risk living without some typical root utilities.
I would be happy for some dev picking it up, but I don't count on it.
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Thanks for the answer. So sad about reading this, but the hope is the last that die

BasicallyCP said:
Sorry to hear those news, J0SH1X. Same question as kimo9hero, what did lead to the decision of yours? (If you allow us asking
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I totally understand that decision. Read following thread where some problems are mentioned.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g7-thinq/development/recovery-twrp-3-2-1-t3809297