Any Ex S3 User - HTC Butterfly

Thinking of jump ship to HTC with the Butterfly... always been with Samsung . Any ex S3 users can chime in on the UI ? Anything that you miss from the S3? Thanks
Update: Just got my Butterfly today and I must say it's gorgeous! Getting aquainted with Sense...

Bus Driver said:
Thinking of jump ship to HTC with the Butterfly... always been with Samsung . Any ex S3 users can chime in on the UI ? Anything that you miss from the S3? Thanks
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Instead of jumping to butterfly, if available go for S3-LTE (2gb, Quad Core) if you are into emails, native client of S3 is far superior then HTC. Large HD display does add value, however rest not much of a difference.

Bus Driver said:
Thinking of jump ship to HTC with the Butterfly... always been with Samsung . Any ex S3 users can chime in on the UI ? Anything that you miss from the S3? Thanks
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S3 felt smoother stock vs stock. Not much of a difference, the butterfly physically feels more like a premium phone though. Not really worth going thru the trouble upgrading

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I haven't it

Once you use the Butterfly you won't ever return back to Amoled screens and that too Pentile

So you had no trouble changing from Touchwiz to Sense?

I hardly used Touchwiz (I actually hate it) ... so if you really like Touchwiz then it will be a learning curve for you ... if you can work on Android independent of tools/launchers then its no big deal
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All I can say is that I think HTC is the only company which comes close to the fluidity and design sense of Apple (no pun intended!)

I miss sense now I'm using touchwiz.
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I still have my S3 but I am enjoying my Butterfly a lot. Any issues I have is because I have the x920e and the Chinese Govt. have gone to great lengths to neuter any form of Google functionality.
As a personal preference, I like Sense more than I do TW. So at the moment, my S3 has been in my desk drawer collecting dust.

I think TouchWiz is really cartoonish and not as polished as Sense. The Sense E-mail app is much nicer to use in my opinion, then the G-mail one. I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1 and E-mail on it is not nice at all.

just like you i have always used samsung (galaxy s, nexus s, galaxy s2, galaxy nexus, galaxy s3, note, note2, also tab 7.7 and yes i have or had all of that) and the amoled screen but to be honest butterfly is the most beautiful phone i have ever had.. you can literally fall in love with it.. it has a goergeus display and a unibody design you just need to fell it in your hand. also sense is much beautiful than touchwiz. i am not saying you wont need anything else because you will definitly need some apps to get most out of it. anyway just one thing bothers me most and its lack of developer support..

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S3 felt smoother stock vs stock. Not much of a difference, the butterfly physically feels more like a premium phone though. Not really worth going thru the trouble upgrading
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I agree with you.

So far after 3 days I'm very happy with the Butterfly..looks and feel in hand is superb. As for UI, getting used to Sense...there are a few things that make Sense but what i miss most on the Samsung is the sound settings...the ringtone and notification setting is separate so i can have silent on all my notification but ringtone still On...on the Sense its combined..anybody know a way around this?

Missed multi color notification light, missed nfc n android beam in 4.1/4.2,missed active development in s3 section, missed proper hardware dac instead of ****s audio, missed more protective casing, missed removable battery, missed sharper camera, missed those times that rooting your phone doesn't need to submit ur phone id token n void warranty straight away, missed side wake button, missed not so bloated touchwiz, missed able to do vertical n horizontal panoramic shot, missed not so tied up photo gallery that allows u to choose which video player to use to view recorded videos.. A lot more, as u can see, I'm pretty unsatisfied with HTC, not just butterfly. Yet they act like don't know why they are falling behind other manufacturers
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missed the battery percentage indicator

fastcx said:
Missed multi color notification light, missed nfc n android beam in 4.1/4.2,missed active development in s3 section, missed proper hardware dac instead of ****s audio, missed more protective casing, missed removable battery, missed sharper camera, missed those times that rooting your phone doesn't need to submit ur phone id token n void warranty straight away, missed side wake button, missed not so bloated touchwiz, missed able to do vertical n horizontal panoramic shot, missed not so tied up photo gallery that allows u to choose which video player to use to view recorded videos.. A lot more, as u can see, I'm pretty unsatisfied with HTC, not just butterfly. Yet they act like don't know why they are falling behind other manufacturers
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Yup you won't like HTC !
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missed the battery percentage indicator
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Battery Widget Reborn (Just try it, you wont go regret it)

I had the HTC Butterfly Verizon version for a day and returned it. It runs too warm, probably that screen. I don't know how HTC was able to get Jelly Bean to run so un-buttery laggy.
In the end, I much rather have a phone that can be uneasily rooted and have tons of custom roms to choose from. So I went back to my S3 and if all the spec leaks are true the S4 will be my next phone.

I'm actually very happy with this phone. I initially wanted the s3 and note 2 but the cheap built quality turned me off
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Just sharing, HTC seem not doing a good job on quality control, my 1st butterfly having 3 dusts trapped inside the screen, so I exchanged it. 2nd butterfly lower left corner touch malfunction, so I exchanged it again, right now I'm on my third butterfly, luckily and finally everything seem working correctly right now...
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I have light bleed from bottom navigation keys to screen, especially obvious when watching movies with darker tone.. Build quality with this butterfly is really questionable.. Rear panel paint isn't as smooth when shine on compares to s3..and that led notification light.. Either green or red is just sad in this day n age
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Farewell to the sensation..Hola to the Galaxy nexus.

Just wanted to say bye to my friends i met through the sensation. Its been an extremely fun ride, from s-on to s-off i've been through all of it. I work at verizon now, and ever since i touched the galaxy nexus, i knew i had to have it. Most of you don't find it as a huge upgrade from the sensation, and when i agree to a certain extent, the galaxy nexus, is well, a nexus device. I never owned one and now that i finally got a job i am buying one. been with android since the g1 and never have owned a nexus and now that i have the opportunity to actually own one, i will (especially since im getting it for 437.48 USD off contract for gsm ).I hope i see all of you on that side as well. Later guys.
wow $400?? where did you get it so cheap from... is it a secret
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wow $400?? where did you get it so cheap from... is it a secret
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Not at all. Just with selling my sensation, thats how much i'm coming out of pocket.
Congratz! The Nexus devices are awesome...My N1 still rocks!!
I always wanted a nexus one, and still want one now, but wouldn't dare ask my folks to come out of pocket 600 for it.
Pictures side by side with the Sensation or didn't happen!
I was just going to post one of these! See you all later as well, just got my nexus
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In the same boat, got my Nexus over the weekend. I think it's a slight upgrade, made more pronounced by the direct-from-Google-Software and the development community. Dont get me wrong, the Sensation has a pretty good Dev community (compared to the anemic Epic 4G, which I originally came from), but the Nexus devices always get the latest and greatest earliest.
Good decision and good luck! GN is a much better phone than the Sensation IMO. I'd like to make the switch too but I have to ride out the rest of this darn contract. Transformer Prime for me instead.
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I was just going to post one of these! See you all later as well, just got my nexus
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if you just got your nexus then why "Sent from my Sensation using XDA App"? lol
Congrats on your new job man. Hope you like your new phone.
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if you just got your nexus then why "Sent from my Sensation using XDA App"? lol
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Well its the last day with my sensation, but good catch there!
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Well its the last day with my sensation, but good catch there!
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haha hows the phone?
im happy with my sensation
look at this Nexus bug, like the Nexus One had.... stuupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYoxZiBTEA
bduvel said:
im happy with my sensation
look at this Nexus bug, like the Nexus One had.... stuupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsYoxZiBTEA
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i would rather have this issue than the issues im having with mine. it could be software and most likely is since the ONLY good thing on a samsung phone is the screen xD i do love my senny though.
LOL at the comments too
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The "bug" with the Nexus One wasn't really a bug. The touch screen that they picked wasn't really capable of real multitouch. It was only capable of doing a certain multitouch gestures like pinch-to-zoom. So it was a hardware limitation, not a bug.
Hopefully this time it is indeed a bug, and could be fixed with firmware/driver update.
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Having owned the Galaxy Nexus (HSPA+ version) for a week, I can't say if I like it more than the Sensation.
The biggest selling points of this phone is the screen and ICS. The screen is definitely gorgeous. Best screen on the market, period. But it is a battery hog. My GN's battery life is noticeably worse than Sensation's. And "battery usage" tells me that 50+ % of the battery usage came from the screen.
While ICS is more polished than previous versions of Android, it just isn't polished enough. For example, the ICS contact app has WebOS/Sense-like feature that integrate your contacts' various accounts info into one place. But it doesn't do it automatically. Some of my contacts are listed as separate contacts (with the same name). Unlike Sense, it doesn't automatically ask me to merge the contacts all at the same time, and I had to join them into one manually (Click a contact, press menu, choose edit, press menu, choose join, choose which one to join. And if a contact is listed more than twice, you have to do the above to merge each of his/her account).
The ICS dialer also lacks the T9/SmartDialing feature in the Sense dialer.
The camera sucks. The zero shutter lack is a gimmick. Yes, it shoots fast, but most of the time it doesn't auto-focus properly before taking the picture. Also, you can't set ISO manually, and there is limited options of manual control.
Lock screen is a joke. While they advertise that the camera app is now available from the lock screen, so that you can access quickly, this doesn't work if you have set a lock-pin/pattern/face unlock. With Sense, even if you have a pin/pattern set, you still have the Sense lock screen with quick access when you turn the screen on. On the GN, once you set the pin/pattern, that's what you see the first thing you turn the screen on. You don't get to see the camera app quick access button.
And of course this phone have the usual Samsung design language - very plasticky. To be fair, it feels better than a lot of plastic Samsung phones. But still, it feels cheap and fragile compared to the Sensation. I dropped my Sensation once and scratched the metal case. I'm sure that my GN wouldn't survive such a fall.
The phone isn't really faster than the Sensation in openning and running apps. It feels faster because of the newly implemented hardware accelerated UI. Scrolling is noticeably smoother. The only exception is the browser. Webpages load really quick. I'm not sure if this have to do with the TI SoC, or the ICS browser is just significantly better. Texts don't get reflowed after zoom-in though, which is one feature that I really miss.
All in all, I'm not sure if I would keep the GN. Sensation + ICS could be a much better overall phone. I maybe much better off holding onto my Sensation until next summer for some other ICS phone with a better camera and a non-plastic case.
In my opinion the GN feels very cheap. The Sensation is far better there.
Turn the screen to its lowest brightness, you can see some darker lines across the screen. Once you noticed that, you see it every time - a no go for me.
On the other hand, it is very brilliant, and a bit sharper, but I like the Sensations more.
Battery sucks, Android.OS has mor consumption than display.... weird.
I will keep the Sensation, too bad it has only 768MB RAM, but I think its enough.
too bad..you should've waited when they release the list of the new devices coming in 2012
Will miss you greatly...so sad to see all of these sensation people leaving...the sensation is still a pretty damn good phone guys...have some fun with the nexus.
Bye bye! Hope all goes well for you guys with the GN!
I got pretty attached to the Sensation. ^_^
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One X Screen STILL reigns supreme! (Sorry J Butterfly!)

http://m.gizmodo.com/5960289/htc-droid-dna-vs-iphone-5-and-everyone-else-whos-got-the-best-display
This article only reinforces my belief that this is the best display on any device I've ever seen or used. Thanks HTC and especially the devs that make using this awesome display even more of a joy!
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So the J Butterfly is named the Droid DNA now, or am I missing something?
I did read somewhere myself that the DNA has a cooler temp wise display than the One X. One thing about the DNA I'll admire is that even zoomed in you still can barely make out the individual pixels.
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So the J Butterfly is named the Droid DNA now, or am I missing something?
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I think that's the Verizon subsidized version.
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absolutelygrim said:
So the J Butterfly is named the Droid DNA now, or am I missing something?
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The Verizon version is "Droid DNA", while i guess for the moment the Japan version is the "J Butterfly" ..... Blame it on Verizon and their Droid on everything branding.
Pretty interesting. The screen on the hox was a huge deciding factor over the s3 when it was upgrade time.
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all these other devices were starting to make me jelly but i'm still in awe every time i turn my screen on
its funny because on that site another writer said its the best display he has seen
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It's interesting. My friend who has the gs3 keeps talking about how his phone is better because of the "better hardware" and removable battery (even though he doesn't have a second battery... Go figure) but I asked him, "Considering you use your phone to pretty much text, listen to music, and watch YouTube wouldn't the most important thing be the quality of the screen? If you are going to spend most of your phone use time staring at it, what would be better? Slightly better hardware and a removable battery or a way better screen?"
Needless to say he never brought up the "My phone is better than yours" conversation since.
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I completely agree. I believe the One X has an absolutely gorgeous screen, and was designed well.
Has anyone noticed thought their screen having a "ripple effect"? Like when I clean the screen I see a dark streak follow my finger. But that could just be my eyes.. Haha Other than that and the slight flex I get on the corners, this is the best phone I have ever had. Ever.
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If you are going to spend most of your phone use time staring at it, what would be better? Slightly better hardware and a removable battery or a way better screen?"
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Obviously a good screen is a must on any smartphone. But specs can be important to the fluidity of the OS, multi-tasking (DNA reportedly is going to have 2GB RAM) and therefore every use of the phone. If you are spending your time starting at a beautiful screen, but what you are staring at is lag and browser restarts, then the nice screen might not be the best choice.
Personal perception comes into play a bit, as well. Its possible that the difference in the screen might not be significant or even noticeable to a particular person, while the difference in performance may be.
All this is just hypothetically speaking of course, the phone hasn't even been released yet.
I agree with the comment about the removable battery. While I know plenty of folks like to have spare batteries (and swap them through the day); after 5 HTC devices, I've never bothered to buy a spare battery.
Still can't forget my first hands on stock with one x display was pure awesome needed no second thoughts on buying this masterpiece . Anyhow I'll be upgrading to dna if and when possible .
I'll upgrade to the Droid DNA the moment it isn't a "Verizon Exclusive". Because of its relationship with 'big red', I can't even purchase it to use unlocked with rogers because the network bands are all wrong. Apparently that's the case for the J Butterfly as well; works with 3G here but SOL for my (expensive) LTE plan.
All things considered though, I do very much love my One X... The performance and display quality are still superior to everything I've seen to date, even those newer Samsung phones and their god-aweful turquoise-tinted monstrosities.
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I love the screen on our HOX, the best I've seen.
a friend of mine had a cheap, crappy screen protector on it ever since he bought his phone 2 months ago...I saw and took the sh*t off right away...He has been thanking me ever since...
The problem with this phone isn't so much the specs (1 gig ram), but Sense itself. If you toss cm10 on this thing there are no browser restarts, no lag, nothing at all which would make you think, "Why not 2 gigs? Stupid HTC."
I have no idea why they decided to butcher so many advances in Android (multi-tasking), my only theory is because sense is such a resource eating blob they needed to find a way to make the launcher and over all app performance usable without having to cut down on the bloat. With a full array of sense widgets (what I consider some of the best widgets available for android) running just the launcher and widgets will eat through that ram like crazy, not to mention not being battery friendly.
Once sense goes bye bye and is replaced by an aosp rom, this phone just freaking flies with no noticeable lag what so ever. Only thing that keeps me coming back to sense is the battery life on aosp isn't quite as good as sense based roms. While the sense camera is better than aosp, with the new 4.2 camera the shots are not what I would call bad.
I am still keeping my fingers crossed that when HTC pushes out Jellybean for the One XL they can restore some of that wonderful aosp multitasking and buttery smoothness while still retaining the amazing camera and audio.
If not I will be jumping over to the nexus 4 and not leaving the nexus brand again. Google got it right with the nexus 4, no lte, but I hardly use it anyway even though I have full coverage in my city.
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The problem with this phone isn't so much the specs (1 gig ram), but Sense itself. If you toss cm10 on this thing there are no browser restarts, no lag, nothing at all which would make you think, "Why not 2 gigs? Stupid HTC."
I have no idea why they decided to butcher so many advances in Android (multi-tasking), my only theory is because sense is such a resource eating blob they needed to find a way to make the launcher and over all app performance usable without having to cut down on the bloat. With a full array of sense widgets (what I consider some of the best widgets available for android) running just the launcher and widgets will eat through that ram like crazy, not to mention not being battery friendly.
Once sense goes bye bye and is replaced by an aosp rom, this phone just freaking flies with no noticeable lag what so ever. Only thing that keeps me coming back to sense is the battery life on aosp isn't quite as good as sense based roms. While the sense camera is better than aosp, with the new 4.2 camera the shots are not what I would call bad.
I am still keeping my fingers crossed that when HTC pushes out Jellybean for the One XL they can restore some of that wonderful aosp multitasking and buttery smoothness while still retaining the amazing camera and audio.
If not I will be jumping over to the nexus 4 and not leaving the nexus brand again. Google got it right with the nexus 4, no lte, but I hardly use it anyway even though I have full coverage in my city.
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I've been running into the same tradeoffs. I'm not the biggest fan of Sense, but I've noticed the battery life is shot when using CM10, which makes me wish I could have my cake and eat it too.

Samsung or HTC

Which should I get I'm confused but I want this phone to last a while
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Isn't the htc one the official name for the device whilst M7 was just three rumour name? Or am I confusing it with another device?
Greets Vauvenal7
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Do yourself a favor and don't get an HTC device again. My sister has a HOX and they've gotten no updates past their first update.
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But I really i dont like Samsung but imma take what I can get and there are 2 diff phones with the One as there name that's why I said m7
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I have always found HTC build quality to be the best, not just in durability but also feel. Samsung doesn't "feel" nice on average but I'm learning their build quality is on par with all the latest phones. One of my least favorite phone makers is lg, bit I just got my girl a nexus 4 and from what I can tell it too should last a long time with the case she has.
But I've grown tired of needed high quality development for each phone I get (hence the n4) and I've phone the worst of the phone companies is HTC as far as getting new software for their "flagship phones"
Granted I will always use custom software its nice to know there is a solid base for me to work with, well mainly developers to work with, I haven't seen a HTC phone get more than 3 major updates, mostly two or one, the only one to have three huge updates was the dream, very first android phone.... Since then they have let their loyal fan base down.
So if you want a phone with consistent software updates, go Samsung flagship phones or go with a nexus, chances are you'll be disappointed in a years time or so if you dont
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Here is why the HTC One.....well any HTC device is a lose/lose. 1 they lock em down tighter thank Fort Knox. And 2 well read this short article on why HTC was sued by the FTC. http://thehackernews.com/2013/02/privacy-of-millions-of-htc-devices-at.html?m=1
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Wow. Now I wanna change the name to Samsung or HTC . but if I do get a Samsung would the s3 or note II last?
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Wow. Now I wanna change the name to Samsung or HTC . but if I do get a Samsung would the s3 or note II last?
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The s3 in my eyes is nothing special. My little brother has a Verizon S3 and it didn't impress me at all.
I read ALL the raves about how powerful it was blah blah blah. And when I finally got one in my hands I was like really, this is the NEXT BIG THING...LMAO.
The most powerful device I've touched to date has been my N4.
I'll get to play with the Note 2 again soon and I'll stack it against my N4. But the Note 2 is just god awfully huge and I wouldn't have it as a personal device because it covers my whole entire face haha
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The s3 in my eyes is nothing special. My little brother has a Verizon S3 and it didn't impress me at all.
I read ALL the raves about how powerful it was blah blah blah. And when I finally got one in my hands I was like really, this is the NEXT BIG THING...LMAO.
The most powerful device I've touched to date has been my N4.
I'll get to play with the Note 2 again soon and I'll stack it against my N4. But the Note 2 is just god awfully huge and I wouldn't have it as a personal device because it covers my whole entire face haha
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I like the Note 2. I don't use my phone for calls particularly often (a few times a day at most) and use it more as a productivity (or... productivity reducer, really) device and the form factor is great. It has great battery life due to the huge battery and the digitizer is fantastic. That being said, the Nexus 4 will get far longer support because it's a Nexus device and many people will hang onto it.
Nexus 4:
- Pros: Updates for 1.5 - 2 years, huge support from XDA and such, inexpensive, good battery life, great screen after tweaks, did I mention the XDA support?
- Cons: Somewhat fragile front and back glass, no SD card (if you use one), no removable battery (if you use one)
Galaxy S3:
- Pros: Somewhat well supported due to the very large userbase, Wolfson DAC, SD card, removable battery
- Cons: Feels pretty cheap, not a quad-core
- Toss-up: Pentile screen
Galaxy Note 2:
- Pros: Wacom Digitizer and Pen, huge screen, non-Pentile AMOLED, Wolfson DAC, SD card, removable battery
- Cons: You look like an idiot when you put the phone to your face, less PPI than S3 or N4, can't use one-handed well, less support on XDA, loss of Digitizer support when on AOSP ROMs, expensive even with a contract
The pros and cons in my head.
Well now I need to change the name again lol, I was thinking about the N4 but how big is the screen? And does XDA only have stock ROMs cause I would like to load a sense/touchwiz ROM onto it. And the N4 is the original device I was gonna choose from....since its on tmo.....but I want a big screen and NICE CASES
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Well now I need to change the name again lol, I was thinking about the N4 but how big is the screen? And does XDA only have stock ROMs cause I would like to load a sense/touchwiz ROM onto it. And the N4 is the original device I was gonna choose from....since its on tmo.....but I want a big screen and NICE CASES
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I have a 4.7 inch IPS display on my nexus which is pretty boss but Google fudged the colors so they need tweaked.
I rock the Poetic Atmosphere case and have 0 issues with it. I'll get some pics of it all up for you later I just got my speedy working to take pics with
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I've made up my mind imma get the s3 because it has a great screen good accessories and it has sense 4.1 and android 4.2.1/.2 so I'm good! Imma be happy AF when I get the s3 but imma be sad cause this is the device I started with lol. But until I get the s3 imma be on here checking out ROMs.
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Sense is actually an HTC interface /overlay (?). S3 has touchwiz or whatever they call it.
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Sense is actually an HTC interface /overlay (?). S3 has touchwiz or whatever they call it.
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Yeah, but there is a dev group that ports sense to Samsung devices
Greets Vauvenal7
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Lol sorry for the confusion lol by sense and 4.2.1/.2 I mean custom ROMs , but I thought that was kinda obvious
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ill go for HTC anytime IF they still made qwerty keyboards
If you still want a keyboard, Samsung seems to be the only provider.
Luckily, the devices they make are fairly good. Captivate Glide is the device I have gotten in the past month. Keyboard is heaps better than the one on the 4G Slide.
They also make the Relay 4G, which has one of the best keyboards I've ever seen on a phone. And it's the fastest QWERTY available on the market right now.
I will eventually upgrade to that device, but the pickings are somewhat slim, I must say.
I feel like T-Mobile customers have been the most fortunate when it comes to QWERTY phones. They had and still have some of the best devices available.
3G Slide, G2, 4G Slide, and now the Relay 4G all from the same carrier.
HTC doesn't do it like Samsung does. Samsung gives updates HTC doesn't. Samsung devices (majority) all have nice cases. And Samsung will last you a good amount of time. Most likely imma get the s3 but if not the note 1. Sorry HTC but you let your biggest fan down
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The S3 is light, but it's delicate. I've already broken two - and i'm pretty careful with my devices. Don't for a second believe that 'gorilla glass 2' is 'just as good as gorilla glass 1'. It's a bunch of bs.
It's quick, I like the bigger screen. Hate no keyboard, and refuse to use the 'fake' virtual keyboard. Had to go get a real virtual keyboard to cope. (I don't do fake well anyways)
I have an S3 on verizon, and the doubleshot on t-mo.
I use the s3 for work, because I travel and t-mobile ****ed me bad with no service - across most of the country. I haven't been to a backwater nowhere town yet that verizon didn't have good service in. T-mo, pretty much nowhere that isn't a huge population center.
But guess what? If I have to take a picture (and I take lots during the course of my shifts) I always pull the doubleshot. The S3 has the worst camera of any digital device i've put my hands on in the last 3 years.
My job depends on legible pictures - the S3 fails to deliver usable pictures so consistently the might as well just have left that out and put more ram in.
If I have to write an email, or the descriptions for those pictures where I can't use the magic cube? Yep - doubleshot. Then a wifi hotspot to send it to the S3 since I have no T-mo service wherever I am standing most likely.
So, despite having an S3, I still use the doubleshot for just about everything, and basically the s3 is a glorified internet connection to make up for T-mo's lack of network basically anywhere.
I do like the USB OTG function, and create and receive flash drives constantly while at work. It's the best way to swap large files like we make between each other on shift. The fact I can do it from my phone and don't need a laptop/netbook like most other people are stuck with is clutch.
Again, though, basically data hits the s3 and just goes over to the doubleshot where I actually work with it.
I do use the s3 to play Ingress - multi-window is nice if you port it or flash a rom that has it. I can't see multi-window being much more then frustrating on anything smaller then the s3 screen size.
I'm hit or miss on other games on the s3, can't say as I prefer it over the doubleshot or vice versa. The bigger screen isn't that much of a deal, but it might have been if I had the bigger one first.
I wanted to be a lot happier with it then I was, the extra ram is nice and the screen size is boss. Native HID bluetooth support is nice, but I find I don't really use it much beyond the magic cube. The MHL cable is cumbersome compared to the tv-out function of the doubleshot.
I sure as **** miss the keyboard shortcut hotkeys on the s3, just using android on it is clunky compared to a hardware keyboard device. If you got used to using them, get prepared to have your legs kicked out from under you. Doing specific things on the device takes 4 times as long or longer (if you can find something to tap to tell it to do what you want even - sometimes the keyboard shortcuts allow actions you can't otherwise perform)
Just having to do everything the long way without the keyboard shortcuts eliminates any performance gains the extra ram provides in general usage. 9 times out of 10 the doubleshot gets it done way faster just because I can tell it to do what I want it to do so much quicker.
nfc tags kinda make up for it a little bit, but not really. They are very limited in that you can only do what the tag is programmed to do. I have just under 50 tags in general use - it starts to become too much after a bit. Keyboard shortcuts are much more elegant.
In the end, my feelings on the s3 are just ... meh. If I could put the doubleshot on verizon, i'd sell the s3 in a heartbeat without a backward thought.
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In the end, my feelings on the s3 are just ... meh. If I could put the doubleshot on verizon, i'd sell the s3 in a heartbeat without a backward thought.
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Why didn't you get the Droid 4? It's not a doubleshot, the camera is not as great, but it has one of the best keyboards ever fitted to a phone.
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opinion about the galaxy s4

I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
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I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
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Only American reviews bashed the s4. Also blogs tend to want to start trends so if the big ones start talking about plastic vs aluminum everyone else will. All bad reviews are based on build materials only. Anyway you can't force your choice on others
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I personally used HTC one and now am using Galaxy s4.The only area where the HTC one excelled is the build quality but to be honest s4 quality is not too bad .it is really solid compared to the Galaxy s3.HTC one is loaded with creepy software where everything is a confusion.not many new options are introduced in the htc one except the boom sound,blink feed .I dont know why the blogs are giving bad reviews to the galaxy s4.it is lot better compared to htc one,xperia z or zl and any other smartphones now even the one of the most useless iphone 5 which is the longest phone according to Apple :cyclops:
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Don't have the S4 yet but from vids, reviews and users I can say that the S4 has a better build quality then the One. Build quality is no the same as design and choice of material. Many One users complain(Ed) about speakers falling off, gap between the screen and the body of the phone stuff like that. The S4 doesn't have a flaw in its build. Sure its plastic but it is well build. There's no crack any where, no holes or nothing.
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I have to say, I just switched from the HTC One to the S4. The One is a quality piece of hardware. The speakers on the front is really nice and it feels really good in the hand. I have 2 primary issues with it. One, Sense has not kept up with the latest good features that have been added to JellyBean. It seems to be a really dated interface. Two, ok, so you don't like the OS provided, unlock the bootloader using the HTC supplied method. OOps, now you have voided your hardware warranty (and they know about it). Big problem when your non-user serviceable battery dies a year into your 2 year contract....
The S4 is not as sexy a hardware platform, but it has better OS, and given enough time, you should be able to root/unlock and install your own OS. Even if it voids your warranty, you can still replace the battery, add micro SD memory and more. Right now I will settle for rooting it and removing bloatware.
I also don't have the Samsung Galaxy S4 yet but I would love to buy as soon as payday comes. I love the features and also I am looking for the quality of camera when buying a phone and it's good. Hoping to have the phone soon.
Where is the setting to add app shortcuts to the lockscreen?
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Where is the setting to add app shortcuts to the lockscreen?
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Lock screen setting
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Lock screen setting
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this made me lol for some reason
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this made me lol for some reason
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Lol then you are easily amused =p
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My take on this lag issue

To begin, I am no galaxy fan boy.. But even I of all people wanna give my thoughts on this little issue, This may help someone who is on the fence if they should go out and buy a htc one instead.
Why the lag on a flagship phone?
Samsung I imagine had a good understanding of the time frame of the launch of the "one", They also Knew Apples time frame for when they might launch a new iPhone. As a company they knew they had to get there device out b4 apple and in a perfect world, around the time htc would drop there new flagship device. In my mind Samsung is a hardware company in the past they have shown there software isn't always, well ""ready for prime time". Samsung Knew they had bumped up the specs, but the design language would remain in tact from the s3 to give customers a sense of a "brand", similarly to what Apple has done since 2007 with the iPhone. Problem was Samsung Knew they could not Compete with Apple or htc as far as build quality goes and since the design language was not so far removed from the s3 they needed something to set it apart, all while fighting a deadline.
So there plan was to build upon the latest android OS, use that as a selling point along with 10000 software gimmicks, and if there was any issues or bugs, they would be ironed out later.
Nice story, but that doesn't fix my lag issue!
I would agree, but.... My take on all that (if the case) is that once Samsung puts out a ota, things will improve greatly. Now, it may take an update or two. But I know one thing, Samsung is a company with money and a lot of it, they can afford to throw money at this and optimize touchwiz to be where it should have been on launch!
I'll end this with something I was thinking about, I owned a "one" for a day, And tho the build quality was solid, I realized I had to use this as a device. Sense 5 is a mess, a simple task like dragging a shortcut onto a homescreen led me into a sense of confusion, and a end result of "who came up with that idea?" Never have I felt confused by an OS, I have made roms for most of the flagship devices on different carriers. I never once felt like I needed to read a manual to get around a device. Again I'm not a fan boy of Samsung or hate HTC, I even own an iPhone 5 .
Buy what makes you happy, Be on Samsung's A$$ and complain as much as needed, but i have a feeling that this will be fixed. I for one am happy with the s4, and look forward releasing roms for this device.
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My stock s4 runs smoother than a stock s3 running 4.1.2, My lag is more of a stutter at times, which at the end of the day, is just TW needing to be optimized. From what I have read the s3 suffered from the same sorta thing when launched
I hope you are right about getting an update to this phone as it desperately needs it. When the LG Optimus G Pro outperforms the latest Samsung flagship you know there is a problem.
Samsung problem is they want to overload Android with gimmicks, and a TON of them..
For some reason they also feel the need to duplicate Google systems, apps and functions which also makes the matter worse..
S Translate? Seriously Samsung? Google already had this. I can go on but you get the idea and know the drill.
I wish Samsung would get rid of all the gimmicks as most don't work anyway and focus on hardware and on fine tuning TW.
I really don't mind TW if they would just tweak and de-bloat it..
If they don't fix the issues they run the risk of heading down the same road traveled by BlackBerry, and HTC..
You are only of top in the Smartphone game if you keep pumping out high quality devices. If the S4 gets a bad rap and / or leaves a sour taste in people mouth then they won't buy the S5 and down the king will start to go..
As of right now I would not recommend that a family member or friend get the S4.. And that's bad news for Samsung if others do the same..
My .02
raqball said:
Samsung problem is they want to overload Android with gimmicks, and a TON of them..
For some reason they also feel the need to duplicate Google systems, apps and functions which also makes the matter worse..
S Translate? Seriously Samsung? Google already had this. I can go on but you get the idea and know the drill.
I wish Samsung would get rid of all the gimmicks as most don't work anyway and focus on hardware and on fine tuning TW.
I really don't mind TW if they would just tweak and de-bloat it..
If they don't fix the issues they run the risk of heading down the same road traveled by BlackBerry, and HTC..
You are only of top in the Smartphone game if you keep pumping out high quality devices. If the S4 gets a bad rap and / or leaves a sour taste in people mouth then they won't buy the S5 and down the king will start to go..
As of right now I would not recommend that a family member or friend get the S4.. And that's bad news for Samsung if others do the same..
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Totally feel you on that last part. I actually feel partially responsible if someone asks for a recommendation and I give them a bad one.
I recommended the sgs4 to one of my coworkers. Now i feel like it might have been a bad idea.
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I recommended the S4 to a family member and became worried after reading about all the lag. He has been waiting all this time for the black HTC One, but since it is nowhere in sight he went for the S4.
I warned him about the lag on the S4, but we went to take a look at it anyway. We did not experience any lag on the device whatsoever. Right away, we disabled S-View, Smartstay, Smartscroll, etc etc etc from the notification bars. We still dislike that there is so much bloatware that you can't uninstall without root, but we do not experience the lag reported on this forum.
I havent yet either. However same as you I disabled most of that junk and switched to nova for now.
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The amount of lag threads on this forum is too damn high!
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The amount of lag threads on this forum is too damn high!
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It's making XDA lag... LOL :silly:
Lag? What lag? 60 apps and counting and the only lag I've noticed is the native gallery is quite slow. Everything else is snappy. Keyboard pops up instantly, chrome loads in milliseconds.
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Lag? What lag? 60 apps and counting and the only lag I've noticed is the native gallery is quite slow. Everything else is snappy. Keyboard pops up instantly, chrome loads in milliseconds.
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You're one of the lucky few.
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The only time I really ever feel like there is a delayed response is when hitting the home button. There is a noticable delay when using it to exit apps or even when on other homescreens and using it to get to the default screen. Anyone else? Other than that everything seems to be working well. Hope you guys get everything straightened out though.
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I don't have much lag either, sometimes, it's there, but relative to the Atrix and Atrix HD, there is nothing to complain about. Didn't really notice a difference after freezing all the bloat either. I have recommended the galaxy to a lot of people and know at least three people who purchased it on my recommendation.
That being said, it would be nice if they patched it up a little better, this thing has more potential for sure.
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I did two things and now my S4 has no lag. Importantly, I'm rooted.
1) Deleted (not just disabled) all bloatware that I don't want.
2) Changed the CPU governor to 'Interactive' from 'Ondemand'.
I factory reset once I got my phone. No lag
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The only time I really ever feel like there is a delayed response is when hitting the home button. There is a noticable delay when using it to exit apps or even when on other homescreens and using it to get to the default screen. Anyone else? Other than that everything seems to be working well. Hope you guys get everything straightened out though.
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That is probably due to S-Voice, disable its start up from a double tap in the settings of the app itself
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That is probably due to S-Voice, disable its start up from a double tap in the settings of the app itself
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You are a genius! *High five* Thanks a lot. It was bugging me
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iB4STiD said:
I'll end this with something I was thinking about, I owned a "one" for a day, And tho the build quality was solid, I realized I had to use this as a device. Sense 5 is a mess, a simple task like dragging a shortcut onto a homescreen led me into a sense of confusion, and a end result of "who came up with that idea?" Never have I felt confused by an OS, I have made roms for most of the flagship devices on different carriers. I never once felt like I needed to read a manual to get around a device. Again I'm not a fan boy of Samsung or hate HTC, I even own an iPhone 5 .
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You have to be joking? Sense is a mess because you can't read the word shortcut on the top left of your screen when in your app drawer when you long press an app to add to your homescreen. By your logic TW is a mess because you can't simply drag one app into another to create a folder.
people go buy a note 2. It is still the best of the family after I tried with restocking fees Blackberry Z10, HTC One and S4.... Still fall back to my Note 2's arms. lol.
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people go buy a note 2. It is still the best of the family after I tried with restocking fees Blackberry Z10, HTC One and S4.... Still fall back to my Note 2's arms. lol.
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5.5 is too big IMO. Won't fit in my pocket.
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You have to be joking? Sense is a mess because you can't read the word shortcut on the top left of your screen when in your app drawer when you long press an app to add to your homescreen. By your logic TW is a mess because you can't simply drag one app into another to create a folder.
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sense 5 is a mess, why? at the end of the day its a "UI" that htc claims to be easier to use than stock, tell that to anyone that owns a nexus 4 , Who has to long press a shortcut from an app tray , only to have nothing happen, only when u drag that shortcut to the status bar area does "shortcut" pop up, your trying to tell me someone ls gonna guess that ? come on, at the end of the day htc has to sell this to people that just want a phone that is "intuitive" hence why there about to go out of business! .. sense has been a bloated wreck since the hero, you can defend your purchase but if you have a "one" why you here? buyers remorse?
btw good luck on those updates, when did the one x get jelly bean? oh ya that's right march 2013. htc will just have you buy the "one.2" for that next major android update
And ya you always can flash cm, but is the regular joe gonna do that? no, there going to see that the galaxy gets updates. that's one thing i give Samsung, and again Im not there biggest fan
sad part is I loved my g1 and nexus, but those days are over time to move on.

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