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I know the original vibrant was a pentaband phone, supporting AT&T's 850/1900 networks as well as t-mobiles 3g networks....
Can anyone confirm the 3g bands on the new Vibrant 4g?
Will there be fast 3g 21mbps for 850/1900 on the modem chip also? ( or 4g whatever you want to call it, in my book its just faster 3g..)
someone enter the debug screen and check which bands are available...
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I know the original vibrant was a pentaband phone, supporting AT&T's 850/1900 networks as well as t-mobiles 3g networks....
Can anyone confirm the 3g bands on the new Vibrant 4g?
Will there be fast 3g 21mbps for 850/1900 on the modem chip also? ( or 4g whatever you want to call it, in my book its just faster 3g..)
someone enter the debug screen and check which bands are available...
cheers!
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How do I get to the debug screen? *#*#4636#*#* gives me WCMDA/GSM under phone info
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stealthj said:
I know the original vibrant was a pentaband phone, supporting AT&T's 850/1900 networks as well as t-mobiles 3g networks....
Can anyone confirm the 3g bands on the new Vibrant 4g?
Will there be fast 3g 21mbps for 850/1900 on the modem chip also? ( or 4g whatever you want to call it, in my book its just faster 3g..)
someone enter the debug screen and check which bands are available...
cheers!
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Curious about this as well. Currently using a vibrant on at&t...
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stealthj said:
I know the original vibrant was a pentaband phone, supporting AT&T's 850/1900 networks as well as t-mobiles 3g networks....
Can anyone confirm the 3g bands on the new Vibrant 4g?
Will there be fast 3g 21mbps for 850/1900 on the modem chip also? ( or 4g whatever you want to call it, in my book its just faster 3g..)
someone enter the debug screen and check which bands are available...
cheers!
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HSPA+ 21 only works with T-mobile, AT&T doesn't use an AWS band, in this case is 1700/2100Mhz.
Someone may have been able to 'trick' the vibrant into using a basic UMTS band on AT&T, but I never heard of it, let alone heard that the Vibrant supported AT&T 3G. The Vibrant has GSM.support for them (2G), I haven't seen anything else.
Where's the supporting documents that people have been getting At&t 3G with a T-Mobile Vibrant?
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HSPA+ 21 only works with T-mobile, AT&T doesn't use an AWS band, in this case is 1700/2100Mhz.
Someone may have been able to 'trick' the vibrant into using a basic UMTS band on AT&T, but I never heard of it, let alone heard that the Vibrant supported AT&T 3G. The Vibrant has GSM.support for them (2G), I haven't seen anything else.
Where's the supporting documents that people have been getting At&t 3G with a T-Mobile Vibrant?
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Trust me.... I'm using a vibrant on at&t with 3g. It does support the wcdma 1900 band. There is alot of evidence of this...heck engadget made a post about this... google it!
Edit: What I was trying to ask is if the galaxy s 4g supports the 1900 wcdma that the original vibrant supported....
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Not sure how I could check unless i unlocked it..
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Not sure how I could check unless i unlocked it..
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That would work....hopefully the galaxy s 4g can be unlocked the same way the previous galaxy s phones could.
In my research I have found that 4G is not backwards compatable with 3G. Someware I read that companys are putting 3G and 4G chips on the new 4G phones to bridge the gap between the 3G chip ability to handle voice and the 4G chip being able to handle data. I can't say for sure if SGS4G has both chips. It's a know issue that the 3G SGS misses calls when connected to a laptop because It does not handle data well in combination with voice. That's why I upgraded to the 4G. I don't think Its going to make a lot of difference until TM gets their HW in place with a backbone that can support it.
Samsung Galaxy S 4G 1900 MHz WCDMA
I bought my Samsung Galaxy S 4G at a T-Mobile store in San Francisco. I subsequently upgraded it to the latest firmware provided by T-Mobile using Samsung Kies.
I usually use WCDMA only mode because GSM causes awful buzzing sound when I use it in my car (I have a FM transmitter connected to my phone).
Anyways, I was curious to see if I'd see AT&T, so I searched for network (still under WCDMA Only mode), and it found both AT&T and T-Mobile.
I pressed *#197328640# in the dialer, and then went to the debug screen/band selection to look at available bands, and it actually does have 1900 WCDMA.
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GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, WCDMA 2100 (FDD I), WCDMA 1700 (FDD IV), WCDMA 1900(FDD II).
I don't know if AT&T SIM would work since my phone is locked but I can report back once I get it unlocked.
EDIT: Reading an old post of mine, I realized that my memory played a bad trick on me. My tests DID work on 1900 WCDMA and DID NOT work on 850 WCDMA, just opposite to what I wrote earlier in this post. --sorry
fm219 said:
...Anyways, I was curious to see if I'd see AT&T, so I searched for network (still under WCDMA Only mode), and it found both AT&T and T-Mobile.
I pressed *#197328640# in the dialer, and then went to the debug screen/band selection to look at available bands, and it actually does have 1900 WCDMA.
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GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, WCDMA 2100 (FDD I), WCDMA 1700 (FDD IV), WCDMA 1900(FDD II).
I don't know if AT&T SIM would work since my phone is locked but I can report back once I get it unlocked.
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I don't think it would work. For reference, here is a side by side band comparison between my Vibrant (tested 3G on AT&T) and my coworker's SGS 4G (locked, untested).
The essential band here is the 850 1900 WCDMA, but the "overflow" 850 WCDMA is missing and I couldn't make it work anyways (I'm in Houston, maybe it is not switched on here).
My understanding is that AT&T usually uses 1900MHz for 3G, and in certain cities where they don't have enough bandwidth in 1900 MHz like NYC and SF, they use 850MHz.. so you could still get by with only 1900 MHz, no?
EDIT: Reading my old post, my memory played a bad trick on me. My test DID work on 1900 and DID NOT work on 850, just opposite to what I wrote earlier on this post.
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My understanding is that AT&T usually uses 1900MHz for 3G, and in certain cities where they don't have enough bandwidth in 1900 MHz like NYC and SF, they use 850MHz.. so you could still get by with only 1900 MHz, no?
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Yep, thats what I have heard as well. Now one thing of note. When I tested my Vibe, it only worked on the 850 1900 WCDMA band. Could not make it work on the 850 no matter how hard I tried. I'm in Houston for that matter and maybe this 850 WCDMA is not enabled here.
This was my test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9958501&postcount=14
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EDIT: Reading an old post of mine, I realized that my memory played a bad trick on me. My tests DID work on 1900 WCDMA and DID NOT work on 850 WCDMA, just opposite to what I wrote earlier in this post. --sorry
I don't think it would work. For reference, here is a side by side band comparison between my Vibrant (tested 3G on AT&T) and my coworker's SGS 4G (locked, untested).
The essential band here is the 850 1900 WCDMA, but the "overflow" 850 WCDMA is missing and I couldn't make it work anyways (I'm in Houston, maybe it is not switched on here).
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I'm currently unlocked on AT&T and i'm on 3G. I ALWAYS have an issue with upload speeds, but otherwise download speeds are just fine.
I attached four photos, of the available bands with my CURRENT galaxy S 4G unlocked on AT&T.
Also, a speed test I ran. That download speed is WAY higher than average because it was taken when the network was under the lightest usage possible, late at night.
Oh wow, over 5Mbps download on AT&T?
Are you on AT&T's 4G (HSPA+) or 3G?
I'm supposedly on T-Mobile 4G (my phone shows 4G when I download/upload), but I don't ever get 5Mbps. I get usually something around 2~3Mbps down and 1Mbps upload. I'm in the Bay Area.
I went into phone debug page, and one of the screens says HSDPA[0], HSUPA[0]. It also says network status: HSDPA (sorry I don't have the exact info on me right now).
Am I really just on HSDPA, not HSPA+? Is there a definite way to find out what my phone is using? Thank you.
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Oh wow, over 5Mbps download on AT&T?
Are you on AT&T's 4G (HSPA+) or 3G?
I'm supposedly on T-Mobile 4G (my phone shows 4G when I download/upload), but I don't ever get 5Mbps. I get usually something around 2~3Mbps down and 1Mbps upload. I'm in the Bay Area.
I went into phone debug page, and one of the screens says HSDPA[0], HSUPA[0]. It also says network status: HSDPA (sorry I don't have the exact info on me right now).
Am I really just on HSDPA, not HSPA+? Is there a definite way to find out what my phone is using? Thank you.
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Technically I'm on HSPA+, though this phone doesn't even cover all of the "necessary" bands.
Look, to edit what bands you're on go into the market and download SGS Tools.
Then, go into the first line (Secret Codes) and hit Band Selection.
I'm on AT&T so I'm not sure what bands you need, but you can manually select them in there.
To check the band you're on, go to GSM Status in the "Secret Codes" page again.
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Oh I know I'm on 1700/2100 MHz because that's the only frequency (AWS) that T-Mobile uses for WCDMA/UMTS/4G/3G.
I downloaded Phono, and it says Network Type is HSDPA. Shouldn't it say HSPA+? I'm just wondering if there's an easy way to tell if I'm really on 4G (aka HSPA+) as opposed to 3G.
I actually messed around with debug settings last night so I'm worried that I screwed it up....
Thank you!
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Oh I know I'm on 1700/2100 MHz because that's the only frequency (AWS) that T-Mobile uses for WCDMA/UMTS/4G/3G.
I downloaded Phono, and it says Network Type is HSDPA. Shouldn't it say HSPA+? I'm just wondering if there's an easy way to tell if I'm really on 4G (aka HSPA+) as opposed to 3G.
I actually messed around with debug settings last night so I'm worried that I screwed it up....
Thank you!
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Which debug settings did you change?
And as for Phono (which I've never even heard of/used until now), my phone says HSDPA as well, which, quite frankly, makes no sense. I guess you can technically get speeds of around 5MBPS on HSDPA but it's not typical.
You should easily be able to tell whether you're on HSDPA or HSPA+ with the 4G/3G connectivity icon. in your status bar.
Now, I'm no expert, but hopefully that answers your question.
I played around with GCF settings. When I go into debug mode, there was something about choosing Rel.6 or Rel.5 or cancel settings.. And then also, if you do *#3214789#, you can enable/disable GCF Mode.. which I have no idea what it is about....
Thanks!
fm219 said:
I played around with GCF settings. When I go into debug mode, there was something about choosing Rel.6 or Rel.5 or cancel settings.. And then also, if you do *#3214789#, you can enable/disable GCF Mode.. which I have no idea what it is about....
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Hmm...that's awfully strange.....
I can't find anything about it anywhere....
Try restoring using ODIN yet?
I mean, if the phone is that messed up since you messed with that setting.
I put my friends att sim in my unlocked sgs4g to test and the 3g sign came up by the bars as well as the att operator logo didn't really test out speeds but im guessing that the 3g sign wouldn't have came up unless it was really picking up that frequency.
On my Captivate, I could customize the radio to remove and add bands. Is there a way to do this on the Inspire? I live in an area where we have so many towers that even though I'm considered in the "best" coverage zone, my phone rapidly hops towers. Setting my Captivate to use the 1900 band only eliminated this issue entirely.
I may have to return the phone if I can't do this because I constantly drop calls and data. The worst is when I am on a phone call - it will go from HSPA to EDGE and then the data connection icon disappears entirely until I get off the phone and/or the call drops - my Captivate did this as well until I set it as 1900 only.
I think one of the custom roms had this option, just can't remember which one. I know one of the desire based roms had a selection setting to force it to one or the other or to set it to automatic.
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stryfe2010 said:
I think one of the custom roms had this option, just can't remember which one. I know one of the desire based roms had a selection setting to force it to one or the other or to set it to automatic.
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I would be extremely interested in this. I am considering making a post in development about it because seriously, I am sick of trying to make a call and it fails because there is no signal, then I wait 30 seconds and I have full signal, get on the call, and it drops out.
This would be sweet to have, my phone is constantly doing the dame thing.
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Jake06 said:
This would be sweet to have, my phone is constantly doing the dame thing.
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Honestly, its a trade off - on my Captivate, I have to lock it as WCDMA 1900 - which means that when I drive somewhere that DOESN'T have 1900 (pretty rare in Colorado) AND HSDPA or 3G, I can't make a call but switching the band takes all of 5 seconds. I can tell you that 1900 here at home though locks and doesn't let go whereas 850 does. My SIM is currently in my Captivate because I'm going to call them and try to make a case for a microcell again.
On your phone, dial *#*#4636#*#* ...then select "Phone Information"
In this menu, you can change and set several things, including which band you use. This is on EVERY android phone, regardless of the ROM. You change these settings at your own risk.
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I would be extremely interested in this. I am considering making a post in development about it because seriously, I am sick of trying to make a call and it fails because there is no signal, then I wait 30 seconds and I have full signal, get on the call, and it drops out.
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Don't return it cause of that..! I've already got the 1900/850(wcdma/gsm) toggle in my sense rom, I just haven't included it yet cause I'm working on a 3g/edge toggle as well, and wanted to have both together, but since people want that wcdma/gsm toggle now ill finish it up 100% this weekend hopefully, update my rom with it and post just that by itself so people on other roms can use it as well.
850MHz has WCDMA as well... Setting it to WCDMA/GSM is irrelevant, as you can be on 850 and still on WCDMA.
You have to be able to specify the 1900MHz or 850MHz bands themselves if that is all you want; rather than the auto-switching the phones are supposed to do.
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850MHz has WCDMA as well... Setting it to WCDMA/GSM is irrelevant, as you can be on 850 and still on WCDMA.
You have to be able to specify the 1900MHz or 850MHz bands themselves if that is all you want; rather than the auto-switching the phones are supposed to do.
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That is exactly what I want. I want to force the 1900 band only. On my Captivate, the only way to do this was to force WCDMA 1900 OR GSM 1900, there was no way to have GSM AND WCDMA 1900 because of how Samsung set up the frequency manager.
I'll try the *#*#4636#*#* mentioned earlier.
The phone doesn't respond to anything I set in *#*#4636#*#* - it automatically reverts back to HSDPA.
I also figured out my problem. Using OpenSignal, I did a tower map. As I thought, I have too many towers. There is one tower that is literally at the top of my block that gives me the worst signal and there are two other towers it connects to - one of them is about 4 blocks away from the other tower and gives me an okay signal and the other one is about a mile away and that gives me the best signal but it doesn't stay locked to any specific tower. Even sitting in the exact same spot, it keeps jumping around.
Oh and you can only select "USA bands", not individual bands from that menu as well
I can only use edge(gsm) 850 band in my office, rest of them don't work.
I used to select it very easily on my captivate using the *#2263#, but there is no such thing on Inspire 4G. Is there anyway to do the same on Inspire 4g??
ravishahuja said:
I can only use edge(gsm) 850 band in my office, rest of them don't work.
I used to select it very easily on my captivate using the *#2263#, but there is no such thing on Inspire 4G. Is there anyway to do the same on Inspire 4g??
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You mean this?
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on Captivate i could *#2263# and toggle between bands. GSM/3G or 850/1900.
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on Captivate i could *#2263# and toggle between bands. GSM/3G or 850/1900.
On inspire *#2263# doesn't work. I tried *#*#4636#*#* as well. If i try to change bands it again defaults back to WCDMA. I can never switch to GSM bands.
If you live in a major area then its not uncommon to have up to 12 monitored cell sites capable of serving your phone.
I have both bands as well, and here is some info that may be of interest:
In areas that have both, there is a rather seemingly obscure pecking order:
Havoc is caused due to this:
Phone has every band available to it. Great! or, not really.
Here is the election process:
Tower sends out its info on the 850 wcdma carrier announcing as primary.
Tower sends out its SAME info on the 1900 wcdma carrier as secondary.
GSM primary is 1900 for association, 850 for data / voice with roll back to 1900.
The phone sends a limited amount of data to the towers when it hooks up, and in this data is the list of "Ranked" cell site ID's. (WCDMA ONLY, forget GSM for now)
The tower then is aware of what other sites can serve you should it become to busy. Using this and various factors, it will decide to either keep you on sector X primary, bump you to secondary carrier, or dump you completely. If it dumps you completely it is a forced hand off and not a graceful one, and you drop signal completely momentarily and then gain it back, but connect to a different cell id. However, that NEW cell ID only hears you at -104, useable but weak, and has 300 other phones it hears at -80 or better.. It has to pick some one to drop, and it picks you. Start the cycle all over again.
Disabling the 850 band stops this, because 1900 goes far shorter of a range and has far less people using it typically.. therefore the stronger site doesnt drop you because your phone reports no where to go. It also (in the case of the captivate) does not respond to requests to switch to GSM, as it will report no gsm availability when in forced wcdma mode.
Fundamentally, this is a misconfiguration on AT&T's part, since this little scenario shouldnt happen with proper sector alignment and tilting.
You did mention that you are in colorado, and AT&T has absolutely NO idea how to deal with radio towers and mountains. They seem to forget that not the entire world is flat.
If it is an option, I'd recommend a switch to Verizon, as it is unlikely this particular problem will ever go away.
Also, as to a Micro-Cell, know going in that those little buggers get the lowest possible priority.. meaning that if your phone can hear a real tower, its going to use that first. You'll have to fight it to get it on the m-cell.
Also, all Micro-Cell's are WCDMA 850 only, with no GSM or WCDMA 1900.
They also do not use HSPA, but instead use older UMTS technology (Who really cares at this point, if you are in range of a M-Cell you can use wifi.)
Other option: Disable 3G for the area you would use the M-Cell.
GSM shouldnt give the same problem WCDMA gives. The entire election process is completely different, and frankly works better than the WCDMA deployment AT&T used.
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Wow sorry I didnt read the dates else I would have known this thread was a corpse. Found it looking for a WCDMA 1900 inspire lock option.
Well after moths investigating on internet and different carriers in my country I can solve this, the thing is here we have HSPA+ "4G" i'm with Digicel right now but the thing is I still getting 3G, moreover settings>about>status>mobile net type says HSDPA and I've confirmed they use 1900Mhz for 4G
Customer service as always don't even know what all of this things are so this is my last resort to solve this mystery. Is the carrier or the phone??????
thanks in advance
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Thanks for the reply but the post don't really help me because Digicel only use 1900 as I said I got 3G but not HSPA+. When I enable/disable wcdma 1900 is it turns to 3G/edge instead of "4G"
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Thanks for the reply but the post don't really help me because Digicel only use 1900 as I said I got 3G but not HSPA+. When I enable/disable wcdma 1900 is it turns to 3G/edge instead of "4G"
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When choosing a phone, what frequencies will work on this network?
· Our 4G network will work well with any 3G+ handset which supports 2100 MHz.
This is off of one of Digicel's websites.
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When choosing a phone, what frequencies will work on this network?
· Our 4G network will work well with any 3G+ handset which supports 2100 MHz.
This is off of one of Digicel's websites.
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Sorry for don't mentioned this before but I'm with Digicel Panamá, here the only available bands are 850 and 1900 and they only use 1900. However I tested with 2100 only enabled and doesn't work.
This phone can use 1900mhz too, for some reason I only get 3.5G instead 4G or H+ symbol...
I am with Cincinnati Bell and have never been able to get my phone on 4g (except when I was in Chicago). I have spent hours on the phone with customer service, reading forums, posting questions and I still to this day only get 3g. There is something odd about this phone using another (smaller) carriers 4g (hspa+).
However, I know that there are a lot of people that use Simple Mobile with our phone and 4g is no problem... so idk
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I am with Cincinnati Bell and have never been able to get my phone on 4g (except when I was in Chicago). I have spent hours on the phone with customer service, reading forums, posting questions and I still to this day only get 3g. There is something odd about this phone using another (smaller) carriers 4g (hspa+).
However, I know that there are a lot of people that use Simple Mobile with our phone and 4g is no problem... so idk
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Well I give up there is nothing left to try and we'll never know the cause of the problem
are there any roms out there that support 900mhz HSDPA?
I tried flashing the 02 modem but no luck, currently on the viper rom but it doesnt seem like there support on this either
Frequency support is hardware based. If the 900 Mhz HSPA frequency is not supported in hardware (which it should not be, since its not in the phone's specs), it can't be added by flashing any amount of software radios, ROMs etc.
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
Doubt it. It's entirely hardware related. Software can't change this at all.
Proxyep said:
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
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The Skyrocket and HOX do support 850/900/1800/1900 on the 2G network, but they only support 850/1800/1900 on the 3G side. Why they do this is beyond me.
That said, I've never personally seen a provider who only has 3G on the 900mhz band. While traveling in Germany, I knew that Vodafone and T-Mobile (DE) had 3G on the 900mhz band, but they also run it on 1800mhz. If I were to wager a hypothesis, they are operating their 2G network on 900 and their 3G network on 1800, much in the same way that AT&T operates its 2G network on 850 (in some areas) and its 3G network on 1900.
Unless your provider is only operating on the 900mhz band, it shouldn't matter.
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The Skyrocket and HOX do support 850/900/1800/1900 on the 2G network, but they only support 850/1800/1900 on the 3G side. Why they do this is beyond me.
That said, I've never personally seen a provider who only has 3G on the 900mhz band. While traveling in Germany, I knew that Vodafone and T-Mobile (DE) had 3G on the 900mhz band, but they also run it on 1800mhz. If I were to wager a hypothesis, they are operating their 2G network on 900 and their 3G network on 1800, much in the same way that AT&T operates its 2G network on 850 (in some areas) and its 3G network on 1900.
Unless your provider is only operating on the 900mhz band, it shouldn't matter.
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well I have 2100 as well but the point is I am wondering if there is any roms that support the 900mhz band. Doesn't 02 use 900mhz 3G?
Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
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Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
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Its not clear to me what version of the phone you own, and are talking about. You mention that you have an AT&T Skyrocket, but you also have Vodaphone logo by your avatar, location is stated as New Zealand, and mention O2.
If you are talking about the AT&T One X, then no, the 900 MHz band is not listed in the specs for 3G compatibility: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-x-gray.html
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are there any roms out there that support 900mhz HSDPA?
I tried flashing the 02 modem but no luck, currently on the viper rom but it doesnt seem like there support on this either
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Seems like on another thread someone got 3G....No idea how, but they did.
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Its not clear to me what version of the phone you own, and are talking about. You mention that you have an AT&T Skyrocket, but you also have Vodaphone logo by your avatar, location is stated as New Zealand, and mention O2.
If you are talking about the AT&T One X, then no, the 900 MHz band is not listed in the specs for 3G compatibility: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-x-gray.html
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I had the Skyrocket, not the OP. I was just comparing frequency specs.
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Proxyep said:
well I have 2100 as well but the point is I am wondering if there is any roms that support the 900mhz band. Doesn't 02 use 900mhz 3G?
Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
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Sorry, I didn't realize you had an Australian One X(L). According to the official specs, it should support 3G on the 900 mhz band. The rom you use won't make a difference. If the One X REALLY supports 3G on the 900mhz band, it should work with whatever rom/radio combo you choose. That said, there is a possibility that it is a typo on HTC's part, and that it doesn't actually support 3G on that band.
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I had the Skyrocket, not the OP. I was just comparing frequency specs.
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Actually, if you read post #3 the OP mentions he has an AT&T Skyrocket also.
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Sorry, I didn't realize you had an Australian One X(L). According to the official specs, it should support 3G on the 900 mhz band. The rom you use won't make a difference. If the One X REALLY supports 3G on the 900mhz band, it should work with whatever rom/radio combo you choose. That said, there is a possibility that it is a typo on HTC's part, and that it doesn't actually support 3G on that band.
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Its really not clear what the OP has, and what the specs are. Maybe purchsed from Vodaphone in New Zealand from the logos by his avatar? Or he could have bought the phone from a 3rd party source? In any case, he seems to be pulling specs from a generic source like the HTC website, since it indicates "Asia/Aus". Its best if he got the specs from the carrier (if its a carrier purchased phone) to make sure the specs match up with the exact version you have. Even so, typos and incorrect listing have been known to happen, as mentioned.
If the band really is listed in the specs, it should be supported in software, and no changes should be needed. Is the correct APN entered?
If settings are all correct, and data is still not working, it suggests the hardware does not in fact support the band.
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Proxyep said:
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
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Some AT&T phones, including the Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, and others have been known to have some bands "hidden" - supported in hardware, but not in software. I know people have gotten the AWS band working on these phones by flashing different radios.
This has not been found to be the case with the One X, so far.
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Some AT&T phones, including the Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, and others have been known to have some bands "hidden" - supported in hardware, but not in software. I know people have gotten the AWS band working on these phones by flashing different radios.
This has not been found to be the case with the One X, so far.
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yeah I guess you are right, there are instances where it momentarily connects to 900mhz but then drops to something else. It is a AT&T htc one X that I acquired cheaply btw.
i'll probably be selling it off, a severe lack of microSD card slot is honestly a real dealbreaker
Just wanted to give some info I found using QPST(qualcomm software) to see what cell bands are configured for our HTC One M8. I even looked at the Rezound bands as well. As most of you know, verizon didn't carrier lock our phones, so if we switch to global or even GSM network, we can use other carriers GSM SIM cards. Just need to properly configure the APN's of course. Below are the bands that the phone will search for when Global Network is selected. I pulled this configuration from my actual device. The Rezound only was missing Bit 19 & 49 selection, but everything else was selected:
[Bit_00] Band Class 0, A-System
[Bit_01] Band Class 0, B-System
[Bit_02] Band Class 1, all blocks
[Bit_07] GSM DCS 1800 band
[Bit_08] GSM Extended GSM (E-GSM) band
[Bit_09] GSM Primary GSM (P-GSM) band
[Bit_19] GSM 850 band
[Bit_21] GSM PCS 1900 band
[Bit_22] WCDMA Band I - EUROPE JAPAN & CHINA IMT 2100 band
[Bit_23] WCDMA Band II - US PCS 1900 band
[Bit_26] WCDMA Band V - US 850 band
[Bit_49] WCDMA Band VIII - EUROPE & JAPAN 900 band
I'm guessing the reason some of us are having issues on Tmobile is that the AWS bands are missing? Can we enable them somehow?
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I'm guessing the reason some of us are having issues on Tmobile is that the AWS bands are missing? Can we enable them somehow?
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It could possibly be activated using QPST, but there are other steps to do it. The only issue is that since QPST is the QualComm radio programing, there is potential to lose signal quality or lose all radio functionality. That said, it could also be possible to recover by flashing the original firmware or RUU to recover. I now T-mobile uses 1900 GSM PCS band and AWS 1700 mHZ. There is another program I use to actually enable more bands. The program basically converts the selection of bands to a hexidecimal number to use in QPST software to program the added bands. Again, not sure if the Qualcom chip can use it. There is a WCDMA band selection for Bit (25) IV- US 1700 than could be programed to enable. I used a thread from the Sony Xperia forum to help me use the two programs.
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Just wanted to give some info I found using QPST(qualcomm software) to see what cell bands are configured for our HTC One M8. I even looked at the Rezound bands as well. As most of you know, verizon didn't carrier lock our phones, so if we switch to global or even GSM network, we can use other carriers GSM SIM cards. Just need to properly configure the APN's of course. Below are the bands that the phone will search for when Global Network is selected. I pulled this configuration from my actual device. The Rezound only was missing Bit 19 & 49 selection, but everything else was selected:
[Bit_00] Band Class 0, A-System
[Bit_01] Band Class 0, B-System
[Bit_02] Band Class 1, all blocks
[Bit_07] GSM DCS 1800 band
[Bit_08] GSM Extended GSM (E-GSM) band
[Bit_09] GSM Primary GSM (P-GSM) band
[Bit_19] GSM 850 band
[Bit_21] GSM PCS 1900 band
[Bit_22] WCDMA Band I - EUROPE JAPAN & CHINA IMT 2100 band
[Bit_23] WCDMA Band II - US PCS 1900 band
[Bit_26] WCDMA Band V - US 850 band
[Bit_49] WCDMA Band VIII - EUROPE & JAPAN 900 band
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I activated all other bands yet i still didn't get LTE, so i assume the restriction is somewhere within the chip perhaps.
band 3
regspy said:
I activated all other bands yet i still didn't get LTE, so i assume the restriction is somewhere within the chip perhaps.
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hi
did you activate band3? 1800mhz and 2600mhz?
still dont get LTE in europe?
do you have a guide how to enable it?
thanks
boazlaz said:
hi
did you activate band3? 1800mhz and 2600mhz?
still dont get LTE in europe?
do you have a guide how to enable it?
thanks
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Yes I enabled band 3 and 7 (1800,2600) following the guide posted here
unlock Qualcomm bands
So no euro lte at all yet?
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So no euro lte at all yet?
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using XDA Free mobile app
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Nop, if someone can tell me which Rom has the change bands function then can try that as well. But even after opening the bands I'm only able to get H 14.4mbps.
Are you currently in Europe too? I'm dying to get Vodafone lte on this handset. 3g works fine but I haven't tried the qpst route yet.
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Are you currently in Europe too? I'm dying to get Vodafone lte on this handset. 3g works fine but I haven't tried the qpst route yet.
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In UAE but we use the same LTE bands as Europe. You can try the qpst thing on stock Rom or cleanROM
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In UAE but we use the same LTE bands as Europe. You can try the qpst thing on stock Rom or cleanROM
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I have an old phone info app that's the 4636 menu thing. Hadn't tried this before but just tried assigning the bands there. Somehow that just hosed me and now I only get the 1900 band it seems, so phone is radio-less for me now
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I have an old phone info app that's the 4636 menu thing. Hadn't tried this before but just tried assigning the bands there. Somehow that just hosed me and now I only get the 1900 band it seems, so phone is radio-less for me now
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There's a solution for this problem, if you are s-off-ed. I also did the same thing - i selected USA bands and my phone radio died. Just make a nandroid, flash ARHD , go to the same 4636 menu and it will give you another option in band selection - Auto!! Choose auto, then reboot and make sure you have connection with the network. Then restore from nandroid and you're good to go! I will try to find the link to the original thread!
EDIT: There it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773907
If it helps you - thank the people in the original thread, i didn't find this solution, i'm just sharing the info!
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There's a solution for this problem, if you are s-off-ed. I also did the same thing - i selected USA bands and my phone radio died. Just make a nandroid, flash ARHD , go to the same 4636 menu and it will give you another option in band selection - Auto!! Choose auto, then reboot and make sure you have connection with the network. Then restore from nandroid and you're good to go! I will try to find the link to the original thread!
EDIT: There it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2773907
If it helps you - thank the people in the original thread, i didn't find this solution, i'm just sharing the info!
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Thanks that was helpful! Somehow I also had recently loaded a Xposed app to show CPU speed on the top bar. I uninstalled that then after two reboots things came back. So odd, but I'm not complaining at this point.
after a google search it seems people have gotten into problems with chaning bands on verizon devices, the above solutions brings the radio back to life. But it certainly doesn't unlock LTE on europe bands.
So i guess its a lost cause, as it must be a hardware limitation
Yeah disappointing that we can't add those
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I seem to be able to get Band 4 LTE sometimes on my Verizon M8 but how can we enable AWS HSPA+ bands?
How band 4 only sometimes?
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How band 4 only sometimes?
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I guess my area has weak signal.. switches between LTE and 3g constantly.
Ok guys ive finally unlocked Band 3 and 7 (europe) LTE on Verizon HTC one m8.....
Here are the steps
Thanks to @olokos @BlackSoulxxx @fffft
Original thread for unlocking all bands
wow!
good job
was it hard? im afraid...