? about aosp ROM's - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

First of all I'm on Verizon.
I've always used tw roms on my s3 but have been considering trying out a aosp rom and an needing help selecting one.
When reviewing that particular section it seems that carbon is the most popular of the options.
I'm wanting to know the benefits of aosp over tw based roms. One thing I have noticed is that I'm thinking that the Swype feature to either call or message while in you contact list doesn't work on aosp. That's a bummer to me because that's one of if not my favorite features of tw.
Is aosp faster than tw? Is it snappier because of the file size being smaller?
When I had my fascinate I normally ran aosp because, well, that's for the most part all there was to offer once 4.0 came out.
What is in your opinion on the best aosp or aokp rom and why? What should I stay away from?
I appreciate any and all help you guys have to offer.
I look forward to your guy's suggestions.
Thanks and have a great weekend.
Aaron
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hank3fan said:
First of all I'm on Verizon.
I've always used tw roms on my s3 but have been considering trying out a aosp rom and an needing help selecting one.
When reviewing that particular section it seems that carbon is the most popular of the options.
I'm wanting to know the benefits of aosp over tw based roms. One thing I have noticed is that I'm thinking that the Swype feature to either call or message while in you contact list doesn't work on aosp. That's a bummer to me because that's one of if not my favorite features of tw.
Is aosp faster than tw? Is it snappier because of the file size being smaller?
When I had my fascinate I normally ran aosp because, well, that's for the most part all there was to offer once 4.0 came out.
What is in your opinion on the best aosp or aokp rom and why? What should I stay away from?
I appreciate any and all help you guys have to offer.
I look forward to your guy's suggestions.
Thanks and have a great weekend.
Aaron
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I don't think you're going to find much better performance, I believe that most folks go with AOSP simply because they prefer the look and feel. Personally I thought the TW menus were ugly and childish. There are a number of AOSP roms to chose from, if you're new to it then I'd recommend CM10/CM10.1. Make sure to read all of the instructions/documentation first, there are some known issues with certain ROMs and that may turn you off. And of course do a IMEI and nandroid backup first!

CrustyMcLovin said:
I don't think you're going to find much better performance, I believe that most folks go with AOSP simply because they prefer the look and feel. Personally I thought the TW menus were ugly and childish. There are a number of AOSP roms to chose from, if you're new to it then I'd recommend CM10/CM10.1. Make sure to read all of the instructions/documentation first, there are some known issues with certain ROMs and that may turn you off. And of course do a IMEI and nandroid backup first!
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Thanks for the reply. I'm actually not big on theming. I guess I've just been wanting to venture out but have read in some instances that people are having data and gps as well as imei problems.
I forgot about flashing slim bean awhile ago, but when I did I lost my imei and it freaked me out. I got it backed up on my computer as well as andromizer.
As far as the aosp theming goes,I don't like the blue at all but have seen some really nice themes on here and some really sharp themes on Google play.
Thanks again and hope more people chime in.
I really really really hope team glitch gets on board at some point. If those dudes start making kernels for this device I'll be sold instantly. That team knows what's up!
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I really wish we could use voodoo sound but Samsung changed something to where that no longer works but I read on a vzw rom thread for the note 2 that someone implemented it and its working.
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ROM reviews?

Does anyone know of a website or youtube channel that does reviews for the S3 ROM for Verizon? I hate downloading buggy ROMs so it would save me some headaches.
Did you try the ROM threads here?
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flyestAC said:
Did you try the ROM threads here?
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ROM thread? You mean the section with all the ROMS in it that has Stars next to the thread title? I've been in that thread and it doesn't seem like a well organized place to find something stable. The information is there, but just not well organized.
You won't know if the Rom works for your phone until you tried them. If you can't find a Rom that works well on your phone then I suggest going back to stock. The reason I am saying this is because not everyone here have the same experience with the same Rom.
jmxc23 said:
You won't know if the Rom works for your phone until you tried them. If you can't find a Rom that works well on your phone then I suggest going back to stock. The reason I am saying this is because not everyone here have the same experience with the same Rom.
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Thanks for the reply
Id like to help you find a ROM that you like. This phone is so much better running it the way you'd like it to. Are you trying to run a stock based TouchWiz ROM or AOSP? This is very important as not many AOSP ROMs are completely stable. TouchWiz stock based ROMs however are very stable. I would like to suggest my ROM made off of the official ROM for our phones. It offers many very nice features which you can either choose or not choose to use with the Aroma installer. It's the forth release of the ROM so all the bugs have been fixed and the ROM is fast and stable. Please check out the thread to the ROM and read through it and see if you fund it worth trying. The thread offers a lot of good information about exactly what you will find in the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275376
andybones said:
Id like to help you find a ROM that you like. This phone is so much better running it the way you'd like it to. Are you trying to run a stock based TouchWiz ROM or AOSP? This is very important as not many AOSP ROMs are completely stable. TouchWiz stock based ROMs however are very stable. I would like to suggest my ROM made off of the official ROM for our phones. It offers many very nice features which you can either choose or not choose to use with the Aroma installer. It's the forth release of the ROM so all the bugs have been fixed and the ROM is fast and stable. Please check out the thread to the ROM and read through it and see if you fund it worth trying. The thread offers a lot of good information about exactly what you will find in the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275376
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Thanks man, you are so kind! The only ROM i have ever used is Synergyrom and the last few updates I did with Synergyrom had some bugs in it. I haven't tried the very last patch though. One update gave my bluetooth phone static. This last ROM i am using from Synergy makes Dolphin crash but I'm not sure if it's due to the ROM. My google maps also isn't working either. It works but it only tells me to turn left or right but never gives me the name of the street that I want to turn on.
Anyway, all I really need from the ROM is something that allows Nova Launcher to work, Bluetooth without static, Dolphin without crashing, Google Maps to work by giving me streets names when it talks to me, and the ability to use Amazon Video on Demand. The Amazon thing might be a long shot though but that would be really awesome! I don't play any games on my phone, mainly use it for music and watching movies from youtube or whatever I download. Amazon on demand would be great though!
Edit: One more thing I forgot to add! They keyboard needs to be 1 handed operational. I forgot what it's called but I currently have it on my phone, the keyboard is smaller and moved more to the right so I can operate it with one hand. I also don't know what AOSP is so I really don't need that.
Look on YouTube for a guy name Hobart he does great reviews on most all popular roms.
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Zedomax also is a very popular Rom reviewer on Youtube with alot of followers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Nd0_gkBqHTw
Android university
Galaxys3root.com I believe it is has some pretty good info
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I'll check them out.
I personally really like jelly beans. Looks more like aosp but is touchwiz based.
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[Q] What ROM would you recomend?

Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.
RileyKA said:
Up until switching to Verizon recently I have only ever used Nexus Devices. I like the Stock Android that comes with a Nexus Device. Now I have an SCH-i535 Galaxy S3 and I hate it. I have rooted and installed custom bootloaders on this, I even tried using the root66 ROM for a while until VZW pushed an update that killed it, since then I have been completely stock.
I have used an AOSP ROM on my wifes Inspire 4G for a while and it wasn't very stable, kinda turned me off on custom ROMs.
Now I think I am ready to delve into custom ROMs again with my S3 and want some recommendations from the community on what would give me the closest experience to a the stock Nexus version of Android on my S3. It would also be awesome if I could get Google Wallet working on it too but that is not a requirement.
Thanks in advance and try not to flame me too hard as this is my first post and I really am too lazy to read every post on every ROM to find what I'm looking for.
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if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.
ddurandSGS3 said:
if youre too lazy, youre going to run into issues.
the best thing you can do is read and try roms. wallet will work with any rom as far as i know. theres a thread in the themes and apps section you should look at.
youre thread will most likely be closed like others do of this nature.
every device runs differently so your results will vary.
some roms have smaller faetures that cause people to stay. theyre all kinda unique.
if you like youre stock features checkout touchwiz roms. if you want something closer to nexus check out the AOSP roms.
if you like stock and the look of AOSP checkout the touchwiz ones that have AOSP themes.
sorry for the vague answer, but figured id give some help before the thread is closed.
good luck.
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Thanks for the reply. I see that someone posted pretty much the same question as I did . I think I'll watch that thread also to see what comes up.

AOSP Recommendations

Hello all,
It looks like a Verizon Galaxy S3 is in my future. I am currently on a Verizon Galaxy Nexus, running MMuzzy 4.2.2. I am really enjoying the stock experience. I have looked at a few through the forums here, but most I find are themed etc. Does anyone have any ROM recommendations that are as close to stock as possible? Any advice would be welcomed.
scadilla said:
Hello all,
It looks like a Verizon Galaxy S3 is in my future. I am currently on a Verizon Galaxy Nexus, running MMuzzy 4.2.2. I am really enjoying the stock experience. I have looked at a few through the forums here, but most I find are themed etc. Does anyone have any ROM recommendations that are as close to stock as possible? Any advice would be welcomed.
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This belongs in Q&A. Anyways, I'd recommend bonestock, clean rom, or synergy. All are good choices.
EDIT: Sorry, you mentioned you were enjoying stock so those are stock-like recommendations.. My bad. Personally, my two AOSP favorites are Eclipse rom (very stable, blacked out, good on battery) and Carbon (smooth, feature rich, very customizable, very few if any bugs).
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Deliquified said:
This belongs in Q&A. Anyways, I'd recommend bonestock, clean rom, or synergy. All are good choices.
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the thread is called AOSP recommendations . all of the roms you mentioned are touchwiz.
i currently run carbon rom. there are nightlies. it is for the most part, flawless. I guess it kind of depends on what features you use ..(halo,pie, etc) there are quite a few aosp roms to choose from, im sure thats why you are asking. in my experience, carbon and slim bean seem to have the best battery life, with the most features to offer. let us know what you decide and how it works for you . !
edit: after checking out the rom you are running, i kind of understand what you mean. Pure AOSP without a CM base. i searched for the same kind of thing when i first got this phone. unfortunately, it seems that all AOSP roms we have are built on cm. i would love to see a rom like mmuzzy for this phone. seems really cool.
Since you say you're looking at AOSP, I'd advise you try LiquidSmooth.
CleanROM and others are great TW stock ROMs, but not AOSP.
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Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
the thread is called AOSP recommendations . all of the roms you mentioned are touchwiz.
i currently run carbon rom. there are nightlies. it is for the most part, flawless. I guess it kind of depends on what features you use ..(halo,pie, etc) there are quite a few aosp roms to choose from, im sure thats why you are asking. in my experience, carbon and slim bean seem to have the best battery life, with the most features to offer. let us know what you decide and how it works for you . !
edit: after checking out the rom you are running, i kind of understand what you mean. Pure AOSP without a CM base. i searched for the same kind of thing when i first got this phone. unfortunately, it seems that all AOSP roms we have are built on cm. i would love to see a rom like mmuzzy for this phone. seems really cool.
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Well, there is one ROM that's pure AOSP....
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I think eclipse by nitroglycerin is straight modded aosp
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I would love to see MMuzzy ROM on this phone.
I would build a ROM from googles source code but I'm not a dev and dont really know much about source codes. It can't be any harder than building from CM sources or any other custom ROM should it?
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scadilla said:
Hello all,
It looks like a Verizon Galaxy S3 is in my future. I am currently on a Verizon Galaxy Nexus, running MMuzzy 4.2.2. I am really enjoying the stock experience. I have looked at a few through the forums here, but most I find are themed etc. Does anyone have any ROM recommendations that are as close to stock as possible? Any advice would be welcomed.
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First advice please read the forum rules on posting.....
Second, best recommendation would be to read...and read then just test for yourself.....
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[Discuss] Which are you more excited about, TW 4.3 or AOSP 4.4?

So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?
32BitWhore said:
So with the probability that we'll be getting OTA 4.3 soon and the official 4.4 nightlies bound to start anytime, which are you most looking forward to?
I love the features of TouchWiz, but I've migrated to CyanogenMod since 4.1.2 feels really dated now.
Which features do you like about your respective favorite and why?
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im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
and a bunch more good stuff
markdapimp said:
im exited about touchwiz, yes you can start calling me names now but i like the features on it, i dont care about that customization like in CM i want the features, like how i can wirelessly stream content to my tv without any additional hardware
by the way its a Sony tv not samsung :good:
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I'm not here to make fun. I think TW has as many benefits as AOSP does, just for different reasons. :highfive:
Just wanted to see what everyone else's thoughts were.
I am running CM 11 and I have enabled ART. I was excited about TW but as of right now I am just happy with how stupid fast this is.
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I have owned my s3 since release. I have ONLY ran AOSP since day 1. Haven't even tried TW hell I might like it.
Will defiantly move to 4.4 once there are cherry picks. I enjoy aosp so to answer your question 4.4!
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Questions go in Q&A and help section.
Please do not check the box "yes this is a question" as it puts a [Q] in the title and then those get moved to Q&A
I have edited your title to read [Discuss], although the whole AOSP vs., TW subject has been beaten to death
It is just a matter of preference and many of these threads can be found across XDA
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4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't
Who cares if the quadrant score isn't higher? As others have said, 4.4 is insanely fast! I don't need a score to tell me that. 4.3 TW may have higher quadrant scores but it won't touch 4.4 AOSP for real life speed. Apps open instantaneously, lag is nonexistent... What are you looking for?
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LLStarks said:
4.3 TW to be honest
Want to see if it boosts Quadrant benchmarks since the CM11 builds certainly haven't
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Ofc TW will bench better since they "cheat" to boost scores in certain benchmarks.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/
Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most
I like TW. I have been running carbon since goodness is MIA. I can say I look forward to a new TW. I miss some of the features.
Tough question. If we even see TW 4.3 anymore, I'd say that. I was on the cm11 builds for a few days, and like most aosp roms, it is plagued by camera quality and data issues. Data is fine in good service areas, but low/fringe areas struggle, then it murders your battery. I had to come back to TW for stability. I know cm11 is young, but even some aosp 4.2 and 4.3 roms give me similar results with the camera and data issues. Just my experience.
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kidhudi said:
Actually Ubuntu Touch is what i wan't the most
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+1
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As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
joshua5683 said:
As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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Exactly like me. I don't even like the TW interface, but the camera and data issues always make me come back. I tried CM11 over the weekend, and it was really smooth. ART is pretty cool, too. Makes the apps launch almost instantly, but isn't compatible with all apps. Makes for a lot of troubleshooting and xda reading. What made me switch back to TW was when my girlfriend and I were literally right next to each other using our phones, she had 4G (Galaxy S4) and I had no data. It never came back until we moved to an area with a little better signal.
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joshua5683 said:
As much as I'd love to use CM11, I can't stand the AOSP camera and that is why I use Touchwiz. CM11 looks so good though, and apparently has something called "ART" which apparently is good, so I will probably flash a CM11 rom to give it a try, but will end up reverting to Touchwiz like always because of the camera.
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ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.
DigitalMD said:
ART is not part of CM , its a experimental runtime environment that Google has inserted into 4.4 . At this point it's mainly experimental for developers. Many / most current apps don;t support it.
If you don;t like the way TouchWiz looks , you can run any other launcher on a TW ROm and have the best of both worlds, stability and all features working with a different UI appearance.
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Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.
I just went back to a TW ROM due to way too many random reboots, shoddy data, and mediocre camera quality. It's a love hate relationship, because the only thing I like about TW is the data and camera, while the UI and buttery smoothness of AOSP is what I really enjoy. TW ROMs always lag for me. If only we could have both together...
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Juice3250 said:
Just my .02 but the TW vs. AOSP was never just about appearance. It was more about the amount of "bloatware" on TW roms that some never use or see any need for. Most of the Samsung features and apps fall into the this category.
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Apps you don;t want are easily removed or frozen. They don;t hurt anything just sitting there anyway. The Custom TW ROMs have the useless items removed while retaining the good stuff like All Share and the IR Remote functions. They also add the options to install themes, lots of 4.3 and 4.4 features etc. That's why there's not a lot of excitement about 4.3 or 4.4, we already have most of it.
I am excited for both.
I really wish there was working multiboot for the d2vzw, though. When I'm traveling, I'd rather be on TW because I find battery life and camera quality are much better. Otherwise I'm on AOSP.

Recommended Roms

I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
Stock.
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ufkal said:
I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
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You literally described viper rom
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If you want customization, ViperROM is the way to go. It is fast and has so many options and settings it can almost be overwhelming if there were anymore things to explore in their tweaks app. Has some nice themes (although many are not fully compatible yet) as well. For a stock ROM with speed and removed bloatware, I recommend Skyfall. It has been the fastest for me as far as stock roms go. Bonestock is great as well, I just had awful battery life on it (which was my fault but was too lazy to diagnose so i crack flashed something else. Just try them all and see what you like best.
Stock. Everything works and you never have to wipe for an update.
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Viper.
Stock with xposed seems to do the trick for me
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I've flashed BoneStock and have been really happy with it honestly. I really only wanted the bloatware removed and it did a good job of that.
I haven't tried any others yet though. Stock is actually really, really nice. HTC did a fantastic job with Sense 6.0.
A second vote for Viper! This ROM has been fantastic. Performance is much improved over stock, battery consumption has been lower, and there are so much customization that can be done through Viper One's tweak configuration (including enabling Power Saver mode which Verizon took away, performing an "auto hide" of the navigation bar, adding custom themes and colors, etc.). The devs of this ROM are also VERY responsive. Be sure to make a nandroid back up using CWM or TWRP before flashing any custom ROM, so you have something to go back to if you are not happy.
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
twan69666 said:
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
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You can flash the Google play edition rom
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twan69666 said:
Was thinking about grabbing this phone, but what about those of us coming from stock Nexus Android? I see people recommending stock, but then dont you have to deal with Sense and stuff? Or am I just missing something?
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I've run the Stock Nexus, and LOVED IT. I also got used to Samsung's TouchWhiz, I personally like HTC's Sense. Much like ROMS, this is a personal choice. I'm sure, once I see a CM or something like that I will give it a try to check it out. Sense is not like it was a couple of years ago. It Flies. Check it out, see for your self.
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You can flash the Google play edition rom
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Yeah, Ive been looking that thread over and it looks like there's a couple of issues still. After looking that over I started browsing around here and thats how I found this thread. Funny nobody has recommended it yet though?
ufkal said:
I've run the Stock Nexus, and LOVED IT. I also got used to Samsung's TouchWhiz, I personally like HTC's Sense. Much like ROMS, this is a personal choice. I'm sure, once I see a CM or something like that I will give it a try to check it out. Sense is not like it was a couple of years ago. It Flies. Check it out, see for your self.
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Thanks
ufkal said:
I know this question is really subjective. I'm coming from the Note II and have not been in this forum more than a couple of days so I'm not famililar with the developers and their work.
I'm just not sure what Rom to start with.
Speed/stability. Feature Customizations, You know, General grovieness
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See if the stock will work fine for you. From there,you would know if you will still look for something better or new.

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