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OOPS, my sd card is messed up

Ok, so i tried out that apps-to-sd script that is on the other thread on here, you know, the one that doesnt require a pc, just the script
well im pretty sure its my fault since others have had success, but as soon as i finished the script, my phones apps all force closed, so i rebooted the g1 and got stuck on flashing android, wiped, got everything back together the way it was before partitioning the card using the script, and now im here
by the way, im using a different sd card from what was in it when i ran the script, its a 4gb class 6, the one im using now is a 2gb class 2
the reason for this is because (here is why i think i messed up) when viewing the sd card from my computer, it shows my used mb's as being 109mb, and available 0mb. now its 109 because i can still use the browser to download files (downloaded jf1.42 from the browser, and used linda file manager to rename it to update.zip when i was trying to find a work around from having to do the wipe)
and paragon has been hanging up on me when trying to get it to start up, could be my ****ty dell, who knows
so now my only problem is, i cant use my class 6 4gb card, and i backed up 3.5gb's of stuff off of it (which definately isnt fitting on a 2gb, let alone its a class 2).
i plan on buying a larger sd card (btw, while your here, care to tell me the largest sd card the g1 can handle? 16gb ok?) but untill then, i really want to use my 4gb, let alone i dont want to toss a 4gb mini sd
any help is definately suggested, and yes, i know whatever mistake i made, is more than likely a noob mistake, hence the "OOPS" in the title, lol
gtalk [email protected] if needed, i get email updates instantly for this thread, thanks in advance

I would repartition/format the card. Then once you are done, use a linux live cd to shrink the partition and add the ext2 partition to it (thats how I have done all of mine).

Darkrift said:
I would repartition/format the card. Then once you are done, use a linux live cd to shrink the partition and add the ext2 partition to it (thats how I have done all of mine).
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ok before i go into the linux live cd, how do i repartition/format the card? i tried right clicking the drive in my computer and hitting format, but it hangs now wheras it didnt before

go to administrative tools and in there computer management. you will see disk management in there. remove the partition, create a new one (it might let you create it and leave some space, if so, do this, if not, use the full space). once you are done, use linux (gparted worked for me under kubuntu) to resize (if you used full space) and create a second partition (linux, ext2). Windows is best at creating windows partitions, and linux is best at creating linux partitions (go figure) so this is the best (if not longest) solution. you *CAN* try to save some time and do it all in linux, but I find the extra time might save you some headache.

well, now im still stuck, could be my crappy dell, but its all i got at the moment
im in computer management, clicked disk management, and its stuck on "Loading Disk Configuration Information..."
soooo what now? lol

Well, try opening the live cd, remove all partitions, create a windows partition, then try computer management again. Maybe the partition table is corrupted (linux can handle and fix this better). If so, creating a new partition using linux will fix that, then you can go back to windows, delete/remake partition and then go back to linux to create the second partition. I know its a lot of steps, but I really do see better results using windows to create fat and linux to create ext2 file systems.

do i have to run linux off of a cd? and where is the best place to download this

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do i have to run linux off of a cd? and where is the best place to download this
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http://tinyurl.com/cxenjl

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http://tinyurl.com/cxenjl
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ok let me be a little more specific
i understand i need linux
i understand where to find linux, many different forms of linux
this android phone is the closest thing ive ever come to using linux, and i dont know the difference between them
is there a specific version i need?
will DSL do the trick?
where do i go in linux once im running it?
do i have to boot linux like i do windows, or can i just run it from the desktop like i can DSM?
but thanks for the link to google
EDIT: The reason i ask about DSL is because i already have that and can run it from my computer off the desktop, i think its through a emulator, not sure, i only tinkered around with it for a few minutes a couple months ago, but i know i still have it on here, so if you can do this through DSM, and can give me a noob-tutorial to do this, thats great, else point me towards which linux i need
nvm i found help on another forum

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so now my only problem is, i cant use my class 6 4gb card
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Don't feel bad, I messed up and did the same thing with my 8GB.
I finally got Vista (after a long hang) to recognize it via a USB SD adapter and right-clicked to Format. (Don't try and open it, it'll hang more)
It only said the volume was 6GB but at least the phone recognized it again.
I flashed back to Haykuro's 4.5 build and did the Format SD card from the settings and it recognizes a full 8GB again. Hope it works for you.

2JRo said:
Don't feel bad, I messed up and did the same thing with my 8GB.
I finally got Vista (after a long hang) to recognize it via a USB SD adapter and right-clicked to Format. (Don't try and open it, it'll hang more)
It only said the volume was 6GB but at least the phone recognized it again.
I flashed back to Haykuro's 4.5 build and did the Format SD card from the settings and it recognizes a full 8GB again. Hope it works for you.
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well i try to do that, and it formats it, but only formats 109mb in fat or ntfs only, wont do fat32
even after i format, even to ntfs, it wont see anymore than the 109
i recently attempted to do a apps to sd card using the script with a 2gb class 6 and that card only has just shy of 4 mbs, out of 2gbs, that can be seen/formatted, also only to ntfs and fat
how did you get it back up to 8gb?
it also doesnt help that my crappy dell is overheating every 10 minutes or so, i was so desperate to get my phone unbricked that when i was downloading the update.zip files i actually put my laptop in the freezer when i was using it and just left the door open lol
any suggestions just throw them here or catch me on gtalk [email protected], ill be on all night on my phone, but im tired of using my laptop on the freezer lol, if anyone posts up here, give me time to get back on here from my phone and reply. thanks in advance
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To get back to 8GB I flashed back to Haykuro's 4.5 build using my other SD.
In the settings it will give you the option to format card from the phone
after unmounting. That restored it to full 8GB.

2JRo said:
To get back to 8GB I flashed back to Haykuro's 4.5 build using my other SD.
In the settings it will give you the option to format card from the phone
after unmounting. That restored it to full 8GB.
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to make things easy for me since im now just using my phone, can you give me a direct link to the rom? ill download it and rename it using filemanager and flash it
btw, will this wipe out my apps going to this haykura build? because after semi-bricking my phone so many times im tired of re-installing apps lol

http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/
am i looking for build4.5-sdcard-signed or build4.5-signed
am i even looking at the right stuff? lol

Just do 4.5_signed, just make sure and Alt+W wipe before install. You'll have to go back to JF.ADP to retry the SDscript anyways. The 4.5_sdcard_signed is for when you already have Apps on SD.
I'm sure there's an easier way, but I have not found any way to format SD from phone aside from this.

if i decided to give up on apps to sd, but wanted to fix my sd card, is this 4.5 stable enough for daily use? ive read some of his blog, and i see he has 5.0, i guess this is all confusing to me since all ive known about so far is JF's stuff, i tried flashing 4.5 and i got the flashing android, im going to try to reflash and see if that fixes it

ok so i cant seem to get any of the builds to work, i tried 4.5, 4.9, 5.0, and 5.1, and each version of each one, and the furthest i get is a flashing android, except for on the 5.0 i get a cool noise, and a HTC Icon in the center of my screen, i guess this is the equivalent of the flashing android for 5.0, could be wrong
do i have to do a full wipe before using these? because i had jf 1.42 rc33 and flashed 4.5, and then 4.9, and then 5.0, then....wait...damn...while typing this and letting 5.0 sit for about 6 minutes it went to the login screen for the g1 (registration), guess im redownloading all my apps now... any reason not to keep 5.0? since its the only one i could get to work so far?

Freeing up memory - How do I delete old ROMs & data?

FWIW, before I get berated, I did do a little searching.
In any case, I'm currently quite low on my tab's internal memory, and I'd like to free up some space.
I'm running AOKP's JB, and I really, really like it. Prior to this, I tried CM9, which I didn't like as much for my tab as I did on my phone. In any case, with what I suppose must be 3 ROMs (stock, CM9, and AOKP) now, along with some backups, etc., I'm really running out of space!
I tried deleting some of the backups I thought were unnecessary, and browsed files & folders for junk to remove, which amounted to very little.
I recall, previously, when I was using CM9 and adjusting my settings that most of my internal space was being used by "miscellaneous," and that within "miscellaneous," CWR was by far the biggest culprit, using, IIRC, more than 2gb. I figured it must be the backups I had made. However, I only have 2 backups left (that I know of), and now that I'm running another ROM I see that I have even less space remaining. I have also noticed that when I have flashed a recovery, EVERYTHING is recovered. I have also noticed the availability and accessibility of some app files & folders from previous ROMs. Thus, I imagine that all of the files & apps are potentially still stored on the device, and so I believe this is what is taking up the most memory.
Since I'm happier with AOKP at the moment, I would like to remove CM9, and the stock ROM as well. My only concern and question (besides how to go about this) is with regards to my latest recovery. Can I safely remove everything with regards to CM9 and the stock ROM even if my only other backup is into one of those ROMs?
Finally, how exactly do I go about this?
I'd be glad to reward whoever takes the time to help me understand and get through this via a PayPal "donation." The more detailed and thorough, the easier it will be for me to understand, as I'm obviously a noob; and this will also go a long way in how I measure the reward.
Thanks in advace!
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Whenever you installed the rooms, did you first wipe the system drive of old data/cache?
You shouldn't still have the old system files on the drive.
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I did at times, but perhaps not every time.
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When I go to System Settings > Storage - it shows that for Internal Storage, the Total Space is 4.59GB, of which is used:
Apps 394MB
Downloads 204MB
Available 851MB
I've noticed, in the past, and with ICS, there were more categories listed here, as I made mention above regarding the "Miscellaneous"category where I was able (in the past) to notice that much space was being used up by CWR. I don't know why these aren't being displayed anymore.
It seems to me that more memory is being used somewhere, and the system isn't telling me about it - Perhaps because it is partitioned off for one or both of the other ROMs and, so it is unaware?
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in order for most of the roms to work without bugs, you would need to have cleared the data/cache.
I'm assuming you have the 16gb tab?
Furthermore, backups can be up to or over 1gb each.
I don't know how much media you have, but I noticed that pictures were taking up a huge part of my storage, so I got image resizer for windows to compress them. It went from about 3gb of space to a couple hundred mb (sorry if this doesn't apply to you).
The ROMs are also different sizes depending on what is packed with them. For example, there's a 200ish mb difference between my stock rom and Ice Cold Sandwich (AOKP).
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tuoggy said:
Whenever you installed the rooms, did you first wipe the system drive of old data/cache?
You shouldn't still have the old system files on the drive.
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Is it possible to do a retro-wipe of the data/cache for the previous ROMs, or will it wipe the data necessary for my current ROM as well?
Also, what exactly does this data/cache entail or include, in case I would like to try and preserve anything beforehand?
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tehrectifier said:
Is it possible to do a retro-wipe of the data/cache for the previous ROMs, or will it wipe the data necessary for my current ROM as well?
Also, what exactly does this data/cache entail or include, in case I would like to try and preserve anything beforehand?
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If you are installing the ROM through CWM, one of the options is to delete the data and to delete the cache. This will basically wipe the device, so it's a good idea to do a complete backup and copy it to your micro-sd card or computer before you do this. I would also recommend getting Titanium backup for your apps (the pro version is worth the $6, trust me, it's saved me hours).
Now having said all that, an 8gb drive is really small for a tablet that you are going to use a lot, and I promise you will continue to run into this problem no matter what you do. I would highly recommend grabbing a 32gb micro-SD card. You can pick one up on Amazon pretty cheap.
Once you do that, you will be able to move the apps to the SD card. I recommend Super Box for this, it's not necessary, as you can do everything within the app settings, but it has a nice intuitive interface, and it quickly shows you which apps you are able to move.
In all honesty, I wouldn't do anymore ROM installations until you have a big Micro-SD card so that you can make sure that everything is backed up.
I hope I'm helping...

In all likelihood, I did do the necessary wipes since I haven't run into any problems flashing.
While I do only have 8GB of internal memory, I do have a 16GB external SD card. Also, I have no media stored on the internal memory.
I do have titanium backup pro, though, I've never bothered learning to use it because I didn't really have the need, nor know what I should use it for; now I think I am beginning to understand - as I have just started flashing ~1 month ago, and the reinstallation & reconfiguration of certain apps and settings is becoming tedious.
In any case, I realized that my latest backups were being stored internally, rather than to my external SD card. The only way I can seem to manage to do a backup to my external SD card is in CWM Recovery mode. Perhaps, I'm overlooking an easier way within the CWM or romtoolbox apps?
I now realize the primary utilities of both tools, as well as titanium backup which I will begin to familiarize myself with ASAP.
OTOH, I do still have this current issue of limited memory, even after I deleted all backups stored internally, and wiped my data, cache, and dalvik cache a few times each. I also realize that my apps consume some space as well, and I will try out the app you mentioned since I have been unable to move any of the apps over to my external SD card. Albeit, I had only downloaded just a few apps with the latest ROM I was running.
Nonetheless, and despite taking the aforementioned steps above (performing the wipes & deleting backups) , I'm still missing about 3.5GB of space, which I assume is partitioned off and being used by the other ROMs? How do I access this space to remove all of that data?
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tehrectifier said:
Nonetheless, and despite taking the aforementioned steps above (performing the wipes & deleting backups) , I'm still missing about 3.5GB of space, which I assume is partitioned off and being used by the other ROMs? How do I access this space to remove all of that data?
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just an idea, never done this my self (i'm also a noob )
if its about partition, i remember there is an option to repartition a device on odin
by what i have read about that option, i get an understanding that odin will recreate the whole partition table, therefore wiping your partition clean and create necessary new partitions
i also think that not every ROM could be flashed through odin, so i think you should flash stock odin friendly ROM then reflash your favorite ROM
then again, this is just an idea, not sure if its applicable

You should flash the stock rom using Odin then reroot and reflash the custom ROM again. I have never had ROM space issues.

seems you have p3113 with only 8GB on it.
mine have p3100 have 16GB internal storage, and other version have 32GB storage.

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You should flash the stock rom using Odin then reroot and reflash the custom ROM again. I have never had ROM space issues.
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I would second this. I'm not sure why you would be having space issues like this.
Just make sure that before you do the ROM installation, you do a full wipe in CWM. This should take care of any partitioning issues you may have.
After that, just make sure you have your apps, backups, and extra media on the SD card.
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p3113owner said:
You should flash the stock rom using Odin then reroot and reflash the custom ROM again. I have never had ROM space issues.
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Dang. This is what I was thinking about doing yesterday, only I was hoping there was an easier way.
I will have familiarize myself with Titanium backup, and it looks like I've got a good reason to do so, now.
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Get DiskUsage app from Play Store.
Good Luck!

I have the same issue. I am running AOKP JB Milestone one and it says's I have a total space of 4.59GB. So I am also wondering where my extra GBs are located. When I installed AOKP I made sure to wipe everything and deleted all apparent backups, I even formatted the SD. So where is the missing space?

Alright, after fooling around and doing a fresh install of AOKP I have learned the following.
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As you can see in the screen shot above I appear to only have around 4GB usable for apps, movies, etc. The "missing" GBs are reserved for system files which as you can see barely use any of their reserved space.

External SD as Internal SD on Photon Q 4G LTE 4.1.2 OTA

I take no credit for this, but I don't see anything on the Photon Q threads here really detailing how to do this or confirming that it works.
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Courtesy of ZaYAC-ua (forum xda-developers com member.php?u=2303983)
Mount the external SD in place internal SD.
Option for editing via Root Explorer
Go to the folder "System" to set it right R / W.
Find the file "build.prop" and open it as a text.
Find the line "persist.fuse_sdcard = true" (in the middle of the file)
Change the "true" to "false". It turns out "persist.fuse_sdcard = false"
Save and exit. To turn off the simulation data/media on the internal SD
Go to the folder "/system/etc" and find the file "vold.fstab"
Separates it as text.
Find the line "dev_mount sdcard /storage/sdcard1 auto /devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host"
Change the "1" to "0"
Add the line "dev_mount external /storage/sdcard1 auto /data/media"
Save and exit. Now External SD card is mounted in place internal SD.
Restart.
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I've done this to mine and the only side effect so far is the loss of ~4GB of internal memory that didn't swap (if someone could figure that out it'd be nice to have I guess). However, I now have my full 32GB SD card as the "internal SD" instead. There's risk involved here, loss of data if your SD card corrupts being the biggest worry. However I need that space available for apps. The first time it filled up, I knew there was something wrong. I have a little over 3GB of music that I keep locally on my phone because I frequently go out of service areas and 4G isn't quite online here in Detroit just yet.
Some other things
- You need root (I used Motochopper from droidrzr com for simplicity)
- I used AntTek File Explorer from my phone to make the changes. Other methods work, but see post #8 in that thread for exceptions
FIRST DO NOT drag files from phone to PC modify them then place back on phone this corrupts files result no Boot!!
Second ROOT EXPLORER would not modify files no matter what I tried yes I,m aware of RO RW and so on.
Third Download ES FILE EXPLORER Brilliant APP for file access, connecting to your LAN and seamless transfer of files between Phone and PC
oh yes and Editing system files.
- Tested on current OTA 4.1.2, CM users need the other process from that thread.
- I still had to symlink to get Google Play to dump onto my SD card. ROM toolbox pro made that pretty easy with it's shortcut function.

doesn't work on cm10.1

I've done this method since I was using Atrix HD. It will work on any Moto Qualcomm devices with JB 4.1.2. First,you should edit build.prop to turn off data/media. The rest is editing vold.fstab. But,it won't work on any CM10.1 based ROMs coz different mount point of storage. You can use the whole internal as storage for apps and the whole external sdcard as internal sd so that you can have a lot of huge game data.

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I've done this method since I was using Atrix HD. It will work on any Moto Qualcomm devices with JB 4.1.2. First,you should edit build.prop to turn off data/media. The rest is editing vold.fstab. But,it won't work on any CM10.1 based ROMs coz different mount point of storage. You can use the whole internal as storage for apps and the whole external sdcard as internal sd so that you can have a lot of huge game data.
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In that case, i'm switching back to 4.1.2.
I also read your post "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231480". Does this works for the photon q @ cm10.1 as well ?

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In that case, i'm switching back to 4.1.2.
I also read your post "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2231480". Does this works for the photon q @ cm10.1 as well ?
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For CM10.1,there's an init.d script by Younggun. It works but I haven't tried it yet.
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For CM10.1,there's an init.d script by Younggun. It works but I haven't tried it yet.
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Care to share the link for younggun I could not find any.

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Care to share the link for younggun I could not find any.
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Here's the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2270545

I tried this out, and it worked!
Here's a screenshot of my 64 GB SD card as internal storage.
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I wonder if it is possible to boot from external sd card, when internal sd cards partition table is messed up. Will the photon try to boot from the external sd card then?

Nope (Secure boot).

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Nope (Secure boot).
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Any idea why the younggun... cm 10,1 script won't work on 422 roms for a xt907? See also my post on the ATRIXHD thread above.

How about using Link2SD app rooted? That seemed to solve the issue for me.

CM10.1 and CM10.2 ported by Skrillax has storage swapping option. It's much better.
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ZenInsight said:
How about using Link2SD app rooted? That seemed to solve the issue for me.
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App2SD is not supported on photonq

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App2SD is not supported on photonq
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Correct. But I did not say anything about App2SD.
I stated to use Link2SD, which requires a dual formatted microSD card with both partitions marked as Primary. Link2SD can see the secondary one, and send data from apps, even system apps, to that hidden partion.
Trust me. It works. I am using it now.

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Correct. But I did not say anything about App2SD.
I stated to use Link2SD, which requires a dual formatted microSD card with both partitions marked as Primary. Link2SD can see the secondary one, and send data from apps, even system apps, to that hidden partion.
Trust me. It works. I am using it now.
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I used to use Link2sd on my Motorola Charm. It worked great. But,it can't store game data on SD. Only apk,cache n dalvik which can be linked to SD.
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huatz84 said:
I used to use Link2sd on my Motorola Charm. It worked great. But,it can't store game data on SD. Only apk,cache n dalvik which can be linked to SD.
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Hmmm...that's odd. I am playing "Waking Mars" and it worked fine on Link2SD. Mine show that
Application file
Davlik-Cache
Library Files
Can all be linked. I would assume, and by looking at the less data usage, that Library files are the main file data that takes up the most space.
But, I'm not an expert.
I think there is a program out that that reverses the external and internal SD card usage. But that might not be a safe solution either.

....i have found better way...search xda for Directory Bind.
I have test it with Re-Volt game (approx 100mb) and it works

Oh, Re-Volt exist for Android too? Great.

Link2SD - Issues from Xperia pro not on Photon Q?
ZenInsight said:
How about using Link2SD app rooted? That seemed to solve the issue for me.
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Hi,
on my Sony Xperiy Pro (Android 2.3.4) I used Link2SD for a long time - until I had to reboot the phone some times.
After each rebooting, a lot of important apps were missing, and everything was a big mess. It took me 2 days to get it working again - until the next reboot.
Finally I found out:
Link2SD did a great job with linking DEX-files and apk-files to the third partition. That worked great.
But when rebooting the phone, some weird services of android (or: Sony?) did a kind of cleanup:
All .dex files were created freshly on the small internal partition. Each time this took about 10 to 15 minutes - until this partition run out of space. Then this process seems to have been stopped and the rest of the apps were missing. This problem could not be solved by a simple relinking in Link2SD...
So my question is:
Can I use Link2SD on my Photon Q without having to care for enough space for dex-files on the internal partition? I'm using the original Motorola Android 4.1.2.
Thank you.

[Q] "Device Memory" issues in Xperia L, 4.1.2 Stock OS etc (Rooted)

I'm using Xperia L with Stock OS 4.1.2, Stock Kernel etc. It had been showing me some memory problems in the last few days. So after a lot of searching around I finally rooted my phone to get to the bottom of this matter. I've only rooted the phone and haven't changed anything else. The bootloader is still locked (if that matters). After a lot of searching around I still haven't found out what exactly is consuming all this space.
- It's not the gallery app. I've already applied the thumbnails fix.
- Not the walkman app. I've disabled it and cleared the cache (user apps + system apps) using Titanium Backup
- Used Android Cleaner app - deleted Log files, everything that it could clear
- Lost.Dir was already empty when I checked it (Yes I'm rooted and I can see other system folders)
- Haven't installed Spotify
- Haven't tried clearing the Delvic Cache because I read that it extracts a file from every apx installed on your phone. So even if you were to clean it up it would get recreated on starting the phone. So this clearing is only required when you're installing a new ROM
I was still trying to find where all that space is going. Finally after a lot of trial and error I came across something interesting. DiskUsage when run on Data Folder under Root seems to shows the actual breakup of that "Device Memory" that we see under settings.
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So my question is:
1) Is the "Device Memory" = App files + Data files + Cache Files + Delvic Cache ? From this screenshot this is what I'm concluding.
2) If 1 is true then it seems Xperia L is very limited for installing Apps. What are my options to deal with this so that I can install loads of apps?

The Xperia L has two partition of 4 GB each
Device Memory
~ 2,5 GB reserved for system (Android, Pre-installed apps)
~ 1,5 GB usable by user to install apps & data for all apps
Internal Storage
~ 4,0 GB usable by user
You can use the internal storage for media files like music & video's etc. You can also move various apps to it. But you cannot move the data of those apps to the internal storage. (There are apps to move data to the internal storage but they require root)
In case this doesn't make sense: See the internal storage as an SD Card
(The internal storage is actually called sdcard0 and the external sd card is called sdcard1)

Joery360 said:
The Xperia L has two partition of 4 GB each
Device Memory
~ 2,5 GB reserved for system (Android, Pre-installed apps)
~ 1,5 GB usable by user to install apps & data for all apps
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I checked out the contents of the Apps folder present in this 1.5 GB space. It seems like all the apps are present here. The pre-installed as well as user-installed. Not positive here but maybe the 1.5GB space is present for all Apps and the 2.5GB is present for other stuff like videos, photos etc.
you cannot move the data of those apps to the internal storage. (There are apps to move data to the internal storage but they require root)
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I did notice that under Settings > Apps we have the option to "Move apps to Internal storage" and then move them back again to "Phone Memory". If all that is actually getting moved is only that Apps section (aka 369 GB) then I doubt that would be of much use in freeing up space.
There must be other ways to go so one can start installing apps again.

mugenishere said:
I checked out the contents of the Apps folder present in this 1.5 GB space. It seems like all the apps are present here. The pre-installed as well as user-installed. Not positive here but maybe the 1.5GB space is present for all Apps and the 2.5GB is present for other stuff like videos, photos etc.
I did notice that under Settings > Apps we have the option to "Move apps to Internal storage" and then move them back again to "Phone Memory". If all that is actually getting moved is only that Apps section (aka 369 GB) then I doubt that would be of much use in freeing up space.
There must be other ways to go so one can start installing apps again.
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Consider ro ot ing to remove unwanted system apps, a start should be to remove all pre installed apps that are available in the Play Store. Because when you update an pre installed app (eg. Chrome) you have the old version in /system/app and the updated version in /data/app.

Joery360 said:
Consider ro ot ing to remove unwanted system apps, a start should be to remove all pre installed apps that are available in the Play Store. Because when you update an pre installed app (eg. Chrome) you have the old version in /system/app and the updated version in /data/app.
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Thanks for the suggestion but I'm wondering if there are any other options. It would be great if I could get some alternatives. I'm not much keen on uninstalling the system apps actually. It would free up very little space IMO which would quickly get filled up soon. I'm looking for a more permanent solution.
1) I know that Link2SD is one option. But not sure whether that would help here.
2) I read somewhere that the Xperia L official update fixes this memory bug. But it's not yet confirmed. Any ideas whether that is true?
3) I have a rooted phone but can I still install the new update or do I need to unroot my phone? And what happens after update?
4) Is it possible to increase the "Device Memory"? If yes, then how?

Remove the /data/core/* files
I had the same issue. Not the files in /data/core are using a lot of space. Those are memory dumps of applications that crashed. You can safely remove them.
HTH

[Q] Thinking about porting CM to the Pantech Element. Many questions.

Hi folks, I'm new here and new to Android/CM development. I have some goals that I will outline below and a whole bunch of questions about CM development. Hope you can help answer some or all of them!
I have a Pantech Element (P4100). It's not a bad budget tablet for it's day (2012/ICS) but I think it could be a lot better with the right ROM.
GOALS-
Gain more space for applications and their data on my Pantech Element. This device has about 1GB available for apps and data that can't be placed on the internal "media" partition or the external SD card.
Move up to a newer, more modern version of Android. More responsiveness, move functionality (Google Now would be nice.)
Remove bloatware AT&T apps.
[*}Learn something new.
WHAT I HAVE:
Pantech Element with official ICS update applied, rooted, with TWRP installed
Ubuntu 12.04 VirtualBox environment with Android dev tools, cyanogenmod Jellybean for Pantech Burst downloaded from github
TWRP backup of system, data, cache , boot.
Linux experience - both as a user and programmer
I have found the following resources:
Pantech Burst kernel and device tree in github (The Burst phone is a close cousin of the Element)
Pantech Pororo (=Element codename) kernel and device tree - nonworking? abandoned? in github
Insecure boot.img from somewhere on the web.
build.prop and partition map from my device
QUESTIONS-
How best to accomplish all of the above goals? I am assuming that a port of CM10 to the Pantech Element is my best option, as it would give me Jellybean and the possibility of using sd-ext for app storage (true?) but I'm open to looking at other options.
I'm not sure if it is necessary to build my own kernel as part of a CM10 installation. Seems less risky to use the stock kernel. Any reason why I would not want to use the stock kernel? Any issues with using the built-for-ICS stock kernel with JB?
I really, really need to avoid bricking this tablet. Anything I can do to brick-proof my development efforts beyond the TWRP backup I have done already?
Thank you for your help!.

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I sure hope you do
I really have nothing to offer except encouragement. I'm a pretty advanced user, but no dev. I also have a rooted, unlocked, TWRP equipped Element, just dying for cyanogen. (which, btw, I wasn't sure from the topic that's what you meant, when I see "CM" I think Clockwork Mod, maybe why your topic isn't getting hits, I dunno)
I've tinkered with mine quite a bit, using secret code revealer to turn on tethering, and then...the framework thing, I forget the name...XTerra? Xzibit? Xience? whatever, to change a few things. ROM toolbox to change some others, like the start-up animation and sound. (mine plays "Bad Moon Rising" instead of stupid AT&T jingle on boot-up, it's awesome) Lucky patcher and a modified, uh...this and that. Etc, etc.
Also, I have a HEAVILY modified rooted, rommed Samsung Continuum running Gingerbread (that phone never got any update past Froyo) my point is, I'm not afraid to mess with stuff. I have zero advice for your porting, but I'll try it if you figure it out :good:

Element
I also have no experience to help you but we do need a new ROM for the Element P4100. One thing that might be considered if and when you work on a ROM. The Element mounts 2nd partition on micro sdcard, while most devices mount the first partition. So apps like link2sd can't work properly as they mount the 2nd partition, would help in moving apps to micro sdcard for internal space.
Hoping something comes for the Element

I completely agree and I hope you can make a go of it. A friend of mine a while ago was trying to help me port CM to this tablet. But he's a math Major now in grad school, so.... let's just say he has other priorities. Oh, also, I moved continents. I gave my element to my sister and my mom has one too, so I'd love to see an update to the OS through the community. The worst is when it says it doesn't have sufficient storage to install a couple of simple apps. There's really no reason for it considering you can store that kind of stuff on the sd card. I think Pantech set it up to install apps to the rom, which if I recall correctly is only 1 GB or so. but it has at least 12 GB of free built in storage out of the box and with a nice big SD card, plenty of additional storage. It really irks me that pantech didn't do a better job implementing the os. Anyway, I'm here for moral support Wish I could help test as well, but as mentioned, both elements I had access to are no longer anywhere near me
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Oh, I almost forgot. My friend who was helping me also had me set up a linux harddrive just for the development process. We never got very far, but if you wanted to look at the file structures, it might be helpful if you're new to developing. I remember we got a working recovery going a couple of times.... well... not fully functional, but it loaded... This was before twrp was a huge thing. anyway, if you want, I can try to repo the build files somewhere so you can look at what he had done in case it can help you figure things out a bit.

shizenyasuya said:
I completely agree and I hope you can make a go of it. A friend of mine a while ago was trying to help me port CM to this tablet. But he's a math Major now in grad school, so.... let's just say he has other priorities. Oh, also, I moved continents. I gave my element to my sister and my mom has one too, so I'd love to see an update to the OS through the community. The worst is when it says it doesn't have sufficient storage to install a couple of simple apps. There's really no reason for it considering you can store that kind of stuff on the sd card. I think Pantech set it up to install apps to the rom, which if I recall correctly is only 1 GB or so. but it has at least 12 GB of free built in storage out of the box and with a nice big SD card, plenty of additional storage. It really irks me that pantech didn't do a better job implementing the os. Anyway, I'm here for moral support Wish I could help test as well, but as mentioned, both elements I had access to are no longer anywhere near me
I can give you a work around for insufficient storage, I also had that. Just install link2sd and at least an 8 gig micro sdcard. Partition the micro sdcard in 2 partitions , 1st about 1 gig and 2nd the rest of the card. Both in fat32. Link2sd will write its script when you open it and then ask to reboot, from there you just link all installed apps to micro sdcard and set settings to link all future apps there. Element does have to be rooted and you won't be able to use the micro sdcard for personal stuff, not with es file explorer but some of the others will write to it. You wont have any problem with space then.
Usually the tablet writes to 1st partition and link2sd will use 2nd but for some dumb reason Pantech's software uses the 2nd instead. I called their tech and ask about it and all they said was we know.....duh.
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On that link2sd thing...
ALD3 said:
shizenyasuya said:
I can give you a work around for insufficient storage, I also had that. Just install link2sd and at least an 8 gig micro sdcard. Partition the micro sdcard in 2 partitions , 1st about 1 gig and 2nd the rest of the card. Both in fat32. Link2sd will write its script when you open it and then ask to reboot, from there you just link all installed apps to micro sdcard and set settings to link all future apps there. Element does have to be rooted and you won't be able to use the micro sdcard for personal stuff, not with es file explorer but some of the others will write to it. You wont have any problem with space then.
Usually the tablet writes to 1st partition and link2sd will use 2nd but for some dumb reason Pantech's software uses the 2nd instead. I called their tech and ask about it and all they said was we know.....duh.
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I did this method, and had a couple question, if it's not too much of a derailment. You say the Pantech software uses the 2nd partition, but when I do it... yes, it does, but so does link2sd. I assume the method you describe you plan to use the first partition for linking apps, right? How do I make that happen?
What I have is: I just lose a gig of my card that I can't "see" with any file explorer and have a second big partition that is Fat32 so I CAN link apps, but I can't move data using link2sd. (I get a "your partition is Fat, so you can't put data there" error) AND it's the partition that shows up in settings/storage and root browser, etc. The ONLY partition, really. Ideally I'd make a 1gb partition of ext2 (so I can link apps AND private data from Chrome, etc.) as recommended by the app, but that doesn't work for some reason. I'd settle with having two true partitions that I can use, but I can't get there either.
I think part of this problem is this whole "interior/exterior SD" business. Apps in general and Android itself seems to be at a loss to smoothly integrate the two. Even Link2sd shows apps as "On SD" when it means media storage. I can't see my media storage in Clean Master, etc.
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I haven't been able to use the first partition for anything. What I did was let both use the 2nd partition. I did make a folder to store any files that I wanted on the micro sdcard as the rest will be loaded with apps from lin2sd and makes it hard to find other files. Also another problem that I found is that ES File Explorer can't write/ move any files or pictures to the 2nd partition after link2sd writes its script. So I use File Manager which will move/ delete files and pictures on micro sdcard 2nd partition. So no problem with space and still able to use micro sdcard for my files. I did lose the 1gig 1st partition and can't use that.
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I know nothing about modding apart from I would like to do mine as well
Its rooted, but that's as far as I got
I have 4 of these unlocked in Australia that could really benefit from it so will be following with interest

ALD3 said:
I haven't been able to use the first partition for anything. What I did was let both use the 2nd partition. I did make a folder to store any files that I wanted on the micro sdcard as the rest will be loaded with apps from lin2sd and makes it hard to find other files. Also another problem that I found is that ES File Explorer can't write/ move any files or pictures to the 2nd partition after link2sd writes its script. So I use File Manager which will move/ delete files and pictures on micro sdcard 2nd partition. So no problem with space and still able to use micro sdcard for my files. I did lose the 1gig 1st partition and can't use that.
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Yeah, okay, that's basically what I did. I ended up just making a 100mb first partition, since it doesn't do anything, and using the rest of a 4gb sd card I had lying around for the second. I have an 8gb SD, but it's in my old phone and full of apps, and I'm too cheap to buy yet another card.
I haven't had any problem putting images or anything else on that second partition(along with app files) for whatever reason. Maybe because I'm using Root Browser or maybe because I use QuickPic app for my photos, I dunno. Some weird behavior with some apps, and I wouldn't need this at all, probably, if I could pull the trigger on just deleting Chrome and all it's junk. Between it and Facebook app, there goes my one gig of app storage. (I hate Chrome on Android, at least on this device it's completely useless. I use Puffin and stock browser, but need some Chrome features and my saved data, etc)

Latest Firmware
I just found out there is a recent update for the Pantech Element (P4100). It was a Security Maintenance Release.
FW: JWUS11162015
OS: Android 4.0.4
Here's the amount of storage available with a fresh factory reset. I have not tried to root it, yet. Nor have I tried to install a Recovery
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Not successful rooting it with the existing instructions out on the internet, which is expected since it is now Android 4.0.4
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery cwm-5.0.2.7-pororo.img
fastboot flash boot element-boot-insecure.img
fastboot reboot

Successful Root with TowelRoot for the firmware I cited above!