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Hey guys
First let me say that I did try to look around the forums, but did not find anything relevant .. the search tool really isn't that great.
My parents, in all their wisdom, decided to go ahead and buy two "generic" android tablets whilst I was away at uni without asking for my advice.
Now had I known, I would have told them to stay the hell away from them, unfortunately I am now left with two annoying adults wanting me to make their tablets faster and better.
I am a pretty good programmer and am doing computer science at Uni, so I though i might try to root/flash a custom ROM onto those tablets myself (i know nobody else will ever do it). However I have never touched anything 'android dev' related (apart from obviously rooting and flashing my own HTC Desire) so I really have no idea about where to start.
This is where you lovely people come in: I would be oh so grateful if someone could put me in the right direction as to whatI should be looking into in order to root, and eventually flash a rom onto a new device that no other dev has ever touched before. I'm guessing that if people are doing it for mainstream devices, its entirely possible to do on the tablets I have, I just need to know where to start looking.
Thanks a bunch in advance guys, please don't be to harsh on me <3
I do not know if this will help you or not, but I also am trying to flash a ROM for a "generic" android device. Given that mine is a phone and not a tablet, I do not know if this would work for you or not therefore I'd recommend doing prior research; however, I was able to root my device using the z4root app.
As far as I know, the next step would be installing a recovery (such as clockwork recovery in ROM Manager) in case something goes wrong. I'm not certain about how one would go about porting that software, but their are instructions posted on the developer's website. I don't know enough about the process so I can't really give anymore input; however, if you find any other information, be sure to let me know as well
definitely will thanks!
I've got one problem with one of the tablets already .. it never came with a usb cable, and does not have a micro usb, min usb or anything that I may know as a port, it only has some kind of proprietary port that strangely looks like an iPod/iPhone/iPad port but I can't be sure as I do not own an ipodcable to try it out .. is it in any way possible that a generic tablet could have an apple connector on it?
speedking34 said:
is it in any way possible that a generic tablet could have an apple connector on it?
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I can just tell you from my experience using a Ciphone Pro (IP4 knock-off running android). It came with a cable that looks very similar to an iphone cable (my girlfriend and I cannot tell the difference between them). I can plug my phone into either my cable or her Iphone 3GS cable to charge; however, when she once plugged her phone into my cable, her Iphone said the charge was not compatible. Because the android phone didn't display any prompts when connected to the iphone adapter, I assume that these generic devices are compatible with it. I hope this helps, but you could also check all of the iphone cables you have lying around because maybe one of them actually came with the device
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How would I go about flashing a ROM on a "generic" tablet?
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One thing that I've noticed is that there are quite a few "generics" out there that are actually rebadged versions of each other. If your tablets are one, then if you can find the line of tablets that they belong to, then you might be able to find a development community behind that line of tablets. If that's the case, then there might already be recoveries/roms available for you to flash onto these tablets. I'm not sure of a great resource but androidforums.net might help.
Jaxidian said:
One thing that I've noticed is that there are quite a few "generics" out there that are actually rebadged versions of each other. If your tablets are one, then if you can find the line of tablets that they belong to, then you might be able to find a development community behind that line of tablets. If that's the case, then there might already be recoveries/roms available for you to flash onto these tablets. I'm not sure of a great resource but androidforums.net might help.
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I would like to marry you Sir. Thanks to your advice I looked around, using the generic pads specifications, and ended up finding out that they were just "rebranded" flytouch epad. From there, I was able to find compatible ROMs for both tablets on http://www.slatedroid.com/ and http://techknow.freeforums.org.
I know have root, google apps and a nice speed increase on both of'em
Thank you very much for the help
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I looked around, using the generic pads specifications, and ended up finding out that they were just "rebranded" flytouch epad.
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Might I ask how you came to this conclusion? I'm trying to see if I can install custom ROMs on my phone and I believe that it is more than likely that there is a compatible version floating around somewhere. I'm not exactly sure what I should be searching for, so if you have any pointers it would be greatly appreciated
Koadics said:
Might I ask how you came to this conclusion? I'm trying to see if I can install custom ROMs on my phone and I believe that it is more than likely that there is a compatible version floating around somewhere. I'm not exactly sure what I should be searching for, so if you have any pointers it would be greatly appreciated
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All I did was look at the specs of my device (ram, processor, screen size and internal memory being the big ones) and just tried to look for any other device with the same specs. It took a lot of googleing though, so be ready to search through useless search results for a while.
speedking34 said:
I would like to marry you Sir. Thanks to your advice I looked around, using the generic pads specifications, and ended up finding out that they were just "rebranded" flytouch epad. From there, I was able to find compatible ROMs for both tablets on http://www.slatedroid.com/ and http://techknow.freeforums.org.
I know have root, google apps and a nice speed increase on both of'em
Thank you very much for the help
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Awesome! I'm glad you were able to find what you were looking for. I must, however, decline the offer as I am already married and polygamy is illegal here.
Hello All,
I just thought I would confirm that the 7.8 update is being sent out to our devices.
I have just plugged mine in to Zune, and it immediately said that I had an update waiting.
Just for reference, I have an HTC 7 Pro, that is running the standard UK Rom.
Great to see a wide range of the original devices getting the update, thus far I have it working on my Titan and HD7 and now that I have seen this thread I can let my work colleague know it's available for his 7 Pro.
Differences?
I updated this morning, I can't see much different apart from the start menu.
It seems to be running slower too.
wyrdfish said:
I updated this morning, I can't see much different apart from the start menu.
It seems to be running slower too.
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The change log is as follows.
Start Screen: Provides resizable Live Tiles (small, medium, large) to provide for more customization options for your Start Screen.
Accent Colors: Increases the number of available accent or theme colors to twenty.
Lock Screen: Improves the lock screen performance with accidental wipe protection and rotating wallpapers provided through the Bing image of the day.
Marketplace and Xbox: Expands Windows Phone Marketplace and Xbox support to new countries and regions.
Fonts: Enhances the Chinese font and improves the appearance of Arabic and other languages.
Microsoft also notes that the 7.8 update includes many "other improvements" to Windows Phone in the change log.
Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint
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Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint
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What version are you using? I come in just to see if there's any official update for Arrive. But if you can't wait, just do the force update.
Have three HTC Arrives..updated two so far using this tool
go here and download this tool:
windowsphonehacker.com/articles/want_windows_phone_7.8_now_try_this_easy_tool-01-31-13
If you are still on mango, it will take awhile. stay by the phone, will need 5 plus reboots with confirmation clicks for each reboot.
ablahblah said:
Odd, we don't seem to be getting the update at all stateside. Tried the method I used to forge Mango (update, click somewhere else, click update again, unplug network cable, wait, nothing). Sprint Forumers are saying that the update is totally shelved for US customers with this phone, because of a manufacturer decision from HTC somehow.
I'm suddenly interested in what the heck is going on now, since you folks in the UK are getting along with 7.8 just fine...gahhhhhhhh sprint
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tempehman said:
go here and download this tool:
windowsphonehacker.com/articles/want_windows_phone_7.8_now_try_this_easy_tool-01-31-13
If you are still on mango, it will take awhile. stay by the phone, will need 5 plus reboots with confirmation clicks for each reboot.
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aiiiya I'm still stuck on 7720 >.<. any idea on what language packs I should be downloading onto this? I can't send Heathcliff's Version and Language app, since I'm not unlocked, and I can't figure out any other way of finding them T.T
*never mind, just downloaded them all. us version seems to have all of them I think?
ouuh. 805a01f7 error in marketplace atm. anyone else getting this issue or know what causes it? phone was fine right before I forced 7.8.
EDIT : never mind, just needed a reboot is all. tempeheman, thanks so much! otherwise I'd still be stuck on Mango right now xD
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aiiiya I'm still stuck on 7720 >.<. any idea on what language packs I should be downloading onto this? I can't send Heathcliff's Version and Language app, since I'm not unlocked, and I can't figure out any other way of finding them T.T
*never mind, just downloaded them all. us version seems to have all of them I think?
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wpcentral has all the details discussed. you only need 0409.(english)
HTC Arrive
Has anyone been able to get the official update to download from Zune on the HTC Arrive? If so how???????
I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
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I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
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Like we said before, the start screen looks nice, with resizeable tiles, and that's it, some icon changes maybe, but no real improvement underline. It's nice to get an update, but not too much with no real fixes for the problems we are facing. Actually, it should be quite easy for many of those "problems" to be fixed.
mcgovern.kk said:
I just updated my arrive. Seemed kinda weird. 6 reboots and done. Seems snappier. I have only had it for a week but this update is nice. Has anyone else had good luck with this too?
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
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How did you get it to work? I tried the unplug the lan cable way and still nothing. Thanks for any help.
I used Tempehman's link on the other page. I didn't want to or have had to rom it.
Sent from my T7575 using Board Express
Stupid Sprint!!!! Making us all jump through hoops to get an update to our phone when they could probably easily turn it on. UGHHHHHHH!!!!!!
Hi,
I am sorry if this is a reproduction but, I am faced with a problem.
I am using an unlocked HTC One X at&t phone in India.
I had rooted the phone and tried to update the latest jellybean update from HTC website which, I could not.
Then, I read that it could be done on un-rooted phones so, I un-rooted the phone and tried doing the update.
The updated completed successfully but now, it is just switched off completely. Battery level was more than 60% while updating.
Now, the phone just wont start. Nor, does the led indicate the phone charging. There is no activity whatsoever. I tried charging it for more than 10 mins to check if its a battery issue but no indication whatsoever.
Kindly help me.
I apologize if I have repeated the question but I could not find an exact question to my issue.
Kindly provide solutions.
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Hi,
I am sorry if this is a reproduction but, I am faced with a problem.
I am using an unlocked HTC One X at&t phone in India.
I had rooted the phone and tried to update the latest jellybean update from HTC website which, I could not.
Then, I read that it could be done on un-rooted phones so, I un-rooted the phone and tried doing the update.
The updated completed successfully but now, it is just switched off completely. Battery level was more than 60% while updating.
Now, the phone just wont start. Nor, does the led indicate the phone charging. There is no activity whatsoever. I tried charging it for more than 10 mins to check if its a battery issue but no indication whatsoever.
Kindly help me.
I apologize if I have repeated the question but I could not find an exact question to my issue.
Kindly provide solutions.
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It's bricked. S-ON + Super CID + OTA or RUU is a full on brick. You can try the unbricking thread but the chances of it working are low, you would need a linux boot disk/USB
Ultimately, you'll probably need to JTAG. There are some online companies that will do it for ~50.00USD
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It's bricked. S-ON + Super CID + OTA or RUU is a full on brick. You can try the unbricking thread but the chances of it working are low, you would need a linux boot disk/USB
Ultimately, you'll probably need to JTAG. There are some online companies that will do it for ~50.00USD
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Oh Man!!
Could this procedure be any easier?
Thanks but i guess your diagnosis is right.
The thing is, we dont have many in India who can do all that.
Gotta figure out what to do with my piece now.
harshadbarge said:
Oh Man!!
Could this procedure be any easier?
Thanks but i guess your diagnosis is right.
The thing is, we dont have many in India who can do all that.
Gotta figure out what to do with my piece now.
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Nope, can't be easier, that's one of the reasons rooting isn't recommended for most people.
Hm, I always thought the tech scene was pretty big in india. Guess I stand corrected.
exad said:
Nope, can't be easier, that's one of the reasons rooting isn't recommended for most people.
Hm, I always thought the tech scene was pretty big in india. Guess I stand corrected.
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Yeah; it is but that all is on the software side.
Not many out here tinker with hardware nor bother to open up cell phones. Its a use n throw policy out here.
Well, it is a welcome change without connectivity for a day now. I want my phone to start up though.
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Yeah; it is but that all is on the software side.
Not many out here tinker with hardware nor bother to open up cell phones. Its a use n throw policy out here.
Well, it is a welcome change without connectivity for a day now. I want my phone to start up though.
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There's a few online companies that do it. You'd need to mail the phone out of course. There's one that's popular that keeps getting mentioned on here but I can't remember their name. Good Luck!
Hi All,
Just purchased a great new htc one mini(black).
When I went into about and looked for software updates it is not visible.
Also, at the bottom of about it says this is a test device in red.
I checked with store model today and everything is exactly the same except the store has software updates and mine does not and red says something else.
Can anyone share how to update to kit-kat as I am on 4.2.2 jelly bean.
It seems genuine but missing these critical options.
Any ideas?
TIA
Personally, i would be concerned that a brand new phone said it was a "test device" especially if you haven't done anything to it yet. To me it sounds like either someone has messed about with it previously to unlock from a particular network OR possibly its a refurbished phone. (i could be wrong, these are just my thoughts)
As it says its a "Test Device" You wont be able to receive/download/apply OTA updates, it should say something to that effect in the "red" text
you have the option to unlock bootloader, root and install a custom rom from xda. ( you can get all this info on these threads but you will void warranty)
I would take it up with where you bought it from before starting the rooting process.
*what does it say when you boot into bootloader*
Thnx for the quick reply.
I got it at an incredible price and it runs superbly.
Really happy and keeping it.
Antutu I got 15k scores whereas default HTC one mini is around 10k.
I just hope I can root it. Any recommendations ?
By the looks of it, it seems that you've bought a 2nd hand phone and most likely have a custom rom on it, just go and check it out in About - Software Information.
By the looks if it the software version is all legit for 4.2.2 jelly bean.
Not sure why update software is not visible though.
Phone runs brilliantly.
Very happy.
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Not sure why update software is not visible though.
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I explained why software update was not visible in my first reply
Yeah I went into the bootloader and it says S-off and locked.
So not sure what it all means but thanks for the replies.
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Yeah I went into the bootloader and it says S-off and locked.
So not sure what it all means but thanks for the replies.
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please read this entire forum.. if you want to now about your device..
HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter
Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help
same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?
Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.
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I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before
Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.
Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.
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Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.
What is the status on SunShine for our device?
I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.