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Guys,
Incase you didn't know, doesnt appear to be common knowledge yet, but i just had a tip off, checked updates and low and behold, an update is available.
Im carrier unlocked, so it may be a while coming to you, but keep checking.
Strangely about still reports OSversion is 80.10211.204?
On the face of it, it appears to be a quite a big release, after installing and restarting a couple of time, you get presented a 'migrating data' screen, in all takes 10 minutes from starting the install.
Whats changed...?
Well i dont know yet, still installing, but thought id give you all the heads up.
Will report back when installation has finished.
Ciao.
Interesting find! Receiving the update as well now (unbranded). Makes me curious as of what might have changed.
Strange, but the "Windows Phone 8 update history" on microsoft site nows nothing about this update.
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Some Sina Weibo account could be added.
If you read OP message carefully, OS is not updated. It is probably just a HTC firmware update. Not a WP8 OS update.
Well it isn't an os update, so its from htc, as to what its done i don't know. I didn't note my firmware version before updating so i cant tell you lol. Device feels faster but probably placebo effect. Anyone notice anything?
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Both Firmware & bootloader versions have changed.
FW updated from 20003.111 to 20005.111
Bootloader from 0.0.1532.20(159895) to 0.0.1532.20(162966)
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Contacted HTC support today, no changelog, they dont know (or wouldnt say) whats been updated, they said to contact MS for info, which ive now done.
Be interesting to know what else has changed.
I noticed this as well as I am always checking for updates in the hope some amazing new features will be added to WP8, wasn't unfortunately, as mentioned above a firmware update and rom loader version update.
Phone seems faster but we are all probably imagining that!
Any information on what this update contains would be appreciated
A little extra boost on battery life would be nice, not that my 8X has a bad life, but its not the best ever.
Hi
My 8X Just back from technical support and as already the new bootloader version (0.0.1532.20(162966)
It seem now i can't flash via Goldcard method! :crying: (i can't unbrand it this time!)
And after reset there is a gears turning during 5 mn on screen! I Never See This Before....
IF YOU WANT TO UNBRAND YOUR 8X DO NOT UPDATE NOW.
My batterylife seems to be better - my device would get pretty hot while using Whatsapp or reading pdf files or things like browsing, but not anymore since this OTA update!
One thing I have noticed, is that the phone sometimes has a 1-2 second delay after tapping the Back key. so sometimes I press back twice because the phone didn't seem to response to the first tap but it did in fact, so I double tap out of an app which is pretty annoying. But if thats all, well, I'll just use the windows button instead haha.
Anyone noticed that under Advanced (Wifi) you have the ability to let the phone detect your location for better wifi re-connection? At least I didn't notice this option before the patch. Pretty sweet! Doesn't seem to impact my battery too much, I usually finished the day with 25%, now I still have around 50-60%. Might be placebo, but it makes me smile when I see other people running for powersockets with their iPhones/Androids
Hi,
I have an HTC from USA AT&T, I have firmware: 1532.20.10009.502 and bootloader: 0.0.1532.20(156201),
Why this numbers are far enought from the one you are saying and when I look for updates it say it is updated.?
Well, the device is certainly booting faster, so that is a big :highfive: in my book
Is this update on Verizon.
Check the volume guys, same as Lumia 800. Restricted
Haven't received anything yet! Unbranded 8x here! Are they distributing this one by country or what?
Just had update here on O2 UK...
Only difference I have seen so far is a Hearing Damage Warning when putting the volume over 20 when listening to music....to be fair, mine never actually hits more than 15....
Snake. said:
Check the volume guys, same as Lumia 800. Restricted
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well, I had the update two days ago. The volume is not restricted, just that now when you turn it up above 20/30 while playing media content, it will give you a message about blasting your eardrums out. Probably they forgot to include that before as the 8X is quite capable of high volume output. Just some legal precautions. Other than that, it's just a FW and boot loader update from HTC side, not from MS.
jemaho said:
Haven't received anything yet! Unbranded 8x here! Are they distributing this one by country or what?
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i don't know how they decide which devices get the update, but it isn't depending on Country as my father got the update 3 days ago and i'm still with the 20003 Firmware
but as Long we don't Need to wait too Long i think it is acceptable
itje said:
Well, the device is certainly booting faster, so that is a big :highfive: in my book
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You got that update while being on the leaked version of portico?
Is it just me, after the update, stopped the clock in HTC application on the tile?
xboxmod said:
Hi
My 8X Just back from technical support and as already the new bootloader version (0.0.1532.20(162966)
It seem now i can't flash via Goldcard method! :crying: (i can't unbrand it this time!)
And after reset there is a gears turning during 5 mn on screen! I Never See This Before....
IF YOU WANT TO UNBRAND YOUR 8X DO NOT UPDATE NOW.
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Funny, i couldnt get my 8x to load into boot loader screen (one with the bar codes on for those who dont know), just gave me an exclamation mark !
I read on cnet last night that Verizon would be sending an update for all GS3 users and, sure enough, I was prompted for the update for an update morning. (5/30/2013)
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Does anyone know if this is safe for me to apply? Will I lose root?
Thanks!
yep
You will lose root and if you have a custom recovery (twrp for instance) it will be overwritten. You will also get a "update failed" message. However, the update actually will succeed. You can reroot the same way you did before (unlock bootloader, root, install custom recovery if desired). I was surprised that the OTA was even available for rooted/custom folks. There will be a couple new apps installed, one dealing with CallerID which will force your 4G and WiFi to both be on - freezing that new app will fix that issue too, search the forums for details.
Goddrick said:
I read on cnet last night that Verizon would be sending an update for all GS3 users and, sure enough, I was prompted for the update for an update morning. (5/30/2013)
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Does anyone know if this is safe for me to apply? Will I lose root?
Thanks!
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You will lose root and if you have a custom recovery (twrp for instance) it will be overwritten. You will also get a "update failed" message. However, the update actually will succeed. You can reroot the same way you did before (unlock bootloader, root, install custom recovery if desired). I was surprised that the OTA was even available for rooted/custom folks. There will be a couple new apps installed, one dealing with CallerID which will force your 4G and WiFi to both be on - freezing that new app will fix that issue too, search the forums for details.
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How are you surprised about the OTA being available for rooted phones? You don't make any sense with that comment as the update is just that an update. Verizon doesn't know which customers have rooted their device just that you have a device that needed to be updated.
Because thats the way it always was back when I had my original Incredible? A lot of people were surprised that the update was available to them, I'm not a minority here. No reason to be rude.
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How are you surprised about the OTA being available for rooted phones? You don't make any sense with that comment as the update is just that an update. Verizon doesn't know which customers have rooted their device just that you have a device that needed to be updated.
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Because thats the way it always was back when I had my original Incredible? A lot of people were surprised that the update was available to them, I'm not a minority here. No reason to be rude.
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I am not being rude just stating the fact that Verizon doesn't know your phone is rooted in fact all companies don't know what you did to your phones until something bad happens to it. I will also add that the update will be pushed regardless if you're rooted or not the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.
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I am not being rude just stating the fact that Verizon doesn't know your phone is rooted in fact all companies don't know what you did to your phones until something bad happens to it. I will also add that the update will be pushed regardless if you're rooted or not the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.
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Funny I did not see him mention anywhere that Verizon knew anything. His experience with a previous phone was that for some reason after rooting etc. his phone did not receive OTA updates. Whatever the reason, instead of being rude, you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
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Funny I did not see him mention anywhere that Verizon knew anything. His experience with a previous phone was that for some reason after rooting etc. his phone did not receive OTA updates. Whatever the reason, instead of being rude, you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
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Okay I have corrected myself like you have so eloquently posted I don't see the need to defend him if I already like you stated told him finally the reason. I already know that I should have done it sooner and like I normally do correctly fall back and respond in a normal tone. I unlike others am self aware of what I do and make an effort to correct any wrongs that I have caused. I don't filter myself when I post my thoughts so they can come across
as rude depending on your sensitivity level the difference is that I don't insult people nor belittle them in any way. I can only imagine how you or anyone will react if I was a total jackass.
ok then
Thanks for the explanation. follow-up question - if Verizon doesn't "know" then what is with the "unauthorized software discovered, call Verizon" popup that so many people have reported? Or the infamous yellow triangle? I assumed (yeah I know the cliche) that Verizon in fact DID "know" otherwise that wouldn't have happened. Simple mistake based on past experience, sorry.
As a side note.. If you have Titanium you can freeze SDM 1.0 and you won't get those updates
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Thanks for the explanation. follow-up question - if Verizon doesn't "know" then what is with the "unauthorized software discovered, call Verizon" popup that so many people have reported? Or the infamous yellow triangle? I assumed (yeah I know the cliche) that Verizon in fact DID "know" otherwise that wouldn't have happened. Simple mistake based on past experience, sorry.
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This is completely unrelated to OTAs though. That warning is solely because of the secure bootloader on the Verizon GSIII. That warning is built into the system to pop up whenever you try installing software to the phone without having the prerelease bootloader in place. Verizon and Samsung intentionally made this model GSIII more difficult to install custom software onto or to make it a more secure device, depending on how you look at it. It's a business decision at the end of the day.
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Probably business related as they don't want to be the first company to have an worldwide malware problem on their devices.
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...you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
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That's the key (at least in my experience with HTC phones). I can't remember the name of the file, but it was one file that you could rename and the phone would not check or ignore OTA updates that were pushed by the carrier.
i downloaded the update the other day by mistake as it bricked my phone. im rooted only and stock. i know its going to keep forcing the update thru, is there anyway i can get the update to go thru successfully without bricking my phone again?
You didn't brick your phone at least not a hardware brick.
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Basically the 4.4.4 update hard bricked my phone, won't even boot into bootloader. I made no modifications at all, not even root, only unlocking the bootloader. I was on the phone to motorola for half an hour trying to get a replacement, but they wouldn't hear a word of it because the boot loader is unlocked so apparently it's all my responsibility, not their's at all for pushing a corrupted file...
Basically stick to 4.4.2 as long as you can. If anything, 4.4.4 is a downgrade, at best a side-grade. Much like 4.4.x all together really - really wish i'd stayed on 4.3
So I there anything i can do to unbrick it? I'm buying a new one anyway, but might use the "bricked" one for testing ROMs or something but if I can't get to fastboot there's nothing much I can do.
Moto G will not power up
Plug it into the charger
Hold the VOL DOWN key
While still holding the VOL DOWN key, press and hold the POWER key
Hold both keys down for over 120 seconds. This is more than two minutes and will seem like a long time. You might want to time yourself to make sure you hold it longer than two minutes.
After holding the keys down for more than two minutes, release them.
The Flash Boot screen will display, and the Normal Reboot option will be highlighted
Press the VOL UP key and the device will start a normal reboot.
If you have tried the above and it didn't work, try this:
Plug in the phone for 15 minutes.
Proceed to Step 2 above.
Source: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/3d5eadc25d
Broken_motoG said:
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Basically the 4.4.4 update hard bricked my phone, won't even boot into bootloader. I made no modifications at all, not even root, only unlocking the bootloader. I was on the phone to motorola for half an hour trying to get a replacement, but they wouldn't hear a word of it because the boot loader is unlocked
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If the bootloader has mysteriously become unlocked, then clearly you did modify the phone and they are entitled to decline a refund. This is made perfectly clear when the procedure to unlock is executed.
That's why you should be careful of anything you do with the phone once the bootloader is unlocked.
Broken_motoG said:
:crying:
Basically the 4.4.4 update hard bricked my phone, won't even boot into bootloader. I made no modifications at all, not even root, only unlocking the bootloader. I was on the phone to motorola for half an hour trying to get a replacement, but they wouldn't hear a word of it because the boot loader is unlocked so apparently it's all my responsibility, not their's at all for pushing a corrupted file...
Basically stick to 4.4.2 as long as you can. If anything, 4.4.4 is a downgrade, at best a side-grade. Much like 4.4.x all together really - really wish i'd stayed on 4.3
So I there anything i can do to unbrick it? I'm buying a new one anyway, but might use the "bricked" one for testing ROMs or something but if I can't get to fastboot there's nothing much I can do.
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Hi, DO NOT take that from Motorola, because you live in the UK which is in Europe (Thats important) Motorola are legally obliged to help you as unlocking the bootloader/loading custom ROMs on to your device is seen as a legitimate practice and not a voiding act of your statuary warranty.
As long as you don't alter hardware they are NOT entitled to decline a refund/replacement under the circumstances, however they can refer you to the retailer you purchased it from but the rules still stand that they have to help you get a new/refurbished phone or a refund
Use this to prove it to them and make them pay up: http://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
Hope this could be of assistance to you and I'm sorry if its off-topic but it needs to be made clear to all EU Motorola owners
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Hi, DO NOT take that from Motorola, because you live in the UK which is in Europe (Thats important) Motorola are legally obliged to help you as unlocking the bootloader/loading custom ROMs on to your device is seen as a legitimate practice and not a voiding act of your statuary warranty.
As long as you don't alter hardware they are NOT entitled to decline a refund/replacement under the circumstances, however they can refer you to the retailer you purchased it from but the rules still stand that they have to help you get a new/refurbished phone or a refund
Use this to prove it to them and make them pay up: ht tp:// f sfe.org/f reesoftw are/legal/flash ingdev ices.en.html
Hope this could be of assistance to you and I'm sorry if its off-topic but it needs to be made clear to all EU Motorola owners
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Thanks for that - didn't realise that law existed, but that will be really helpful :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Broken_motoG said:
Thanks for that - didn't realise that law existed, but that will be really helpful :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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No problem, I checked on it before I installed CM on my Moto G last week
Hope I could help and good luck with the phone
Good luck with unbricking your phone, but oh no, I've already downloaded the 4.4.4 update!
Oh wait, my phone works just fine...
And if it immediately bricked your phone, how do you know that "If anything, 4.4.4 is a downgrade, at best a side-grade."?
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Good luck with unbricking your phone, but oh no, I've already downloaded the 4.4.4 update!
Oh wait, my phone works just fine...
And if it immediately bricked your phone, how do you know that "If anything, 4.4.4 is a downgrade, at best a side-grade."?
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I don't want to get off-topic but if an update bricked your phone its a pretty BIG downgrade as it went from a phone with many uses to a paperweight (allbeit a pretty paper weight) as it has lost functionality and its the softwares fault.
Its personal opinion
OP needs to establish if he has simply not encountered the ''Moto G won't turn on' issue. I included instructions above. It could all be just bad timing.
Broken_motoG said:
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Basically the 4.4.4 update hard bricked my phone, won't even boot into bootloader. I made no modifications at all, not even root, only unlocking the bootloader. I was on the phone to motorola for half an hour trying to get a replacement, but they wouldn't hear a word of it because the boot loader is unlocked so apparently it's all my responsibility, not their's at all for pushing a corrupted file...
Basically stick to 4.4.2 as long as you can. If anything, 4.4.4 is a downgrade, at best a side-grade. Much like 4.4.x all together really - really wish i'd stayed on 4.3
So I there anything i can do to unbrick it? I'm buying a new one anyway, but might use the "bricked" one for testing ROMs or something but if I can't get to fastboot there's nothing much I can do.
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I don't think this is anything to do with the update. If it was we would have heard about it from more that just you.
After all mine works perfectly fine after the update and I'm UK Tesco.
dethrat said:
I don't think this is anything to do with the update. If it was we would have heard about it from more that just you.
After all mine works perfectly fine after the update and I'm UK Tesco.
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Same here and plenty of subtle improvements (get rid of the Carrier name woo-hoo) and bug fixes in 4.4.4 - (several features of my Automation app - MacroDroid suddenly work when they didn't before), not to mention one or two security patches. Slightly better battery life and noticeably smoother animations are a nice bonus too. New Dialler is a big improvement - the old one was ugly.
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Same here and plenty of subtle improvements (get rid of the Carrier name woo-hoo) and bug fixes in 4.4.4 - (several features of my Automation app - MacroDroid suddenly work when they didn't before), not to mention one or two security patches. Slightly better battery life and noticeably smoother animations are a nice bonus too. New Dialler is a big improvement - the old one was ugly.
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It depends, my friend who has a Moto G update to 4.4.4 lost all functionality of his apps and his clock stopped working. It just depends as his phone wasn't rooted with no bootloader unlock
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I don't want to get off-topic but if an update bricked your phone its a pretty BIG downgrade as it went from a phone with many uses to a paperweight (allbeit a pretty paper weight) as it has lost functionality and its the softwares fault.
Its personal opinion
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Of course a bricked phone is useless, but something obviously went wrong with the OP's phone, and its probably a coincidence that it happened while updating. It's the absurdity of the comments "DO NOT download the 4.4.4 update" and "4.4.4 is a downgrade" that got me to post, because its pretty clear that many people have updated without any issue.
Not besmirching the OP's problem, and like I said, I wish him well in getting his phone working.
Also, depending how old the phone is and where you bought it from, isn't it an option just to return it to the seller for an exchange. Just tell them it stopped working and you want a replacement phone?
It does not change ver. from 4.1.2
what does this updatedo?
What does this update do? Does it affect my root? Thanks!
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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AFwarbird said:
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using XDA Free mobile app
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Started getting the notification yesterday, but I'm also on stock Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and TWRP. I was able to stop the notifications by freezing "AT&T Sofware Update" with Titanium Backup, but I'd also like to know if there's anything here worth the trouble of trying to get it installed.
I just had a chat session with a Samsung official, and she said it's news to them. I told her that I am on I727UCMC1, and she said that my device is up to date. The small update AT&T is pushing must be something to do with AT&T.
Unless it updates my camera features, I'm not even bothering with it, and will keep AT&T Update frozen.
I'm pretty sure I'd have to backup everything, revert to stock UCMC1, cross my fingers and toes that it still doesn't brick my phone, and hope it still can be rooted the way I did before.
It sure would be nice if there was some sort of explanation as to what is being updated. I have looked all over and not found anything anywhere else that mentions this update to I727UCNJ1. I got the number from this an at&t website I would post the link but can't. It is only 12mb so probably not worth a bunch of trouble but I wish I knew what it is trying to update.
Paranoid?
Me too. Mine is original stock, but I upgraded the Android OS last year to 4.1.2 via Samsung Kies. However, mine is unlocked, and I can't help but be suspicious that AT&T is "updating" to do something that is to their benefit and not ours (i.e. relocking the phone?, spyware, etc.?), so it would be nice to have some details of what/why this unexpected update, before blindly agreeing to it. So, if anyone know what this update is all about, please share with us. Thanks very much!
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
I chatted with an AT&T representative yesterday, and all I could get out of her was that the update had to do with new features to the O/S. That's all the information that she could find, and couldn't tell me any specifics about what features were being updated.
I am about to go to an S5 or S5 Active soon, and I might just revert to stock to check it out.
It's pretty fishy though that neither Samsung, or AT&T has, or wants to divulge in any, information on exactly what it's going to do.
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As far as it locking your device back down, I have yet to flash, or install anything that has re-locked my phone. I guess it's possible. The only thing I'm worried about is losing root, and not being able to get it back with the last way that's available.
I see it's now listed on the AT&T eSupport website No details, just "Android OS Enhancements".
I don't have enough posts on this forum to be permitted to publish a link, but you can find it by Googling "AT&T Update to Skyrocket", and the eSupport link should be near the top of the results.
AT&T is taking the same tack as Verizon, and locking everything down. Even the mid to low end phones. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a way to lock older phones.
On the other hand, it really may be final bug fixes - a sort of final service pack. I wish I trusted them to give it a try.
I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
Thanks very much for your feedback. I've always just put a SIM card from another carrier into my phone. Even if it is not an active SIM, your phone should still tell you whether or not it is locked.
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I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
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unless u restored a previous efs partition that was locked to a carrier then u will remain unlocked, afaik no one lost their unlocked sim by restoring or flashing any firmwares, to read more about the sim lock or to unlock the sim read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638037
as for firmwares locking down the phone its referring to the way root is acheived not to the sim carrier lock
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My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
Clarification?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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Thanks, that was very helpful! Seriously though, as a senior member of this forum, perhaps you might have some constructive comments on this subject? After all, we're sitting here with phones (the I-727 SII Skyrocket is an oldie, but goodie!) that are trying to push an unanticipated OTA update on us, in a very suspicious manner. We hope it's just a bug fix, but don't trust the carrier (AT&T) to be doing this, unless they have some ulterior motive. The benefit of your substantial experience would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer us.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
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Thank you for your insight, it was TRULY helpful! As a relative newbie, I just want to clarify our terms. When you use the term "unlocked", I deduce you are referring to a phone that has been rooted and is running a different platform - is that correct? In my case, I am NOT rooted and simply running the original crappy stock platform, but my phone is "unlocked" in the traditional sense, in that I can use it with different sims from different carriers throughout the world, rather than being "locked" to AT&T. So, for those of us who are not as technically advanced, could you please clarify? For me, if this OTA update doesn't prevent me from continuing to use other sims from other carriers, then I don't know what the downside would be, unless they're just adding more spyware and bloatware to their already intrusive system? I look forward to your comments.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices.
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I thought T.J. Bender was talking about simlock since he didn't mention the bootloader. :silly:
At&t sure isn't making life easy for you.. I'd still be proudly rocking a skyrocket too if I didn't lose it :angel:
I only messed with my Skyrocket for an hour or so after accepting the OTA update, before starting up my new S 5 Active.
The only thing that I really noticed, was they took the AT&T phone setup app off of it, since it is no longer in use by AT&T. There may have been more that I didn't notice, but only running it a couple hours, I couldn't tell. I even checked the camera thinking they might have finally snuck some new features into it, but no dice.
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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How does suggesting that AT&T would lock a bootloader make me insane?
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HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
ziddy5 said:
HTC One M8 on Verizon. Android version 5.0.1. I did a lot of research yesterday, and could not find any working solution to root the phone. It's hard to find anything on Google because generally the information will be outdated (from last year or the year before). So can someone fill me in on what exactly I'd need to do? This is my first smartphone and I've never rooted an Android device before.
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Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
BladeRunner said:
Assuming you are still S-On and locked then you are stuck without root for now.
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This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
ziddy5 said:
This is what I was afraid of. How can I keep track of when there is an update to the situation?
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keep checking these forums and/or follow @teamandIRC on twitter
Rooting the already updated HTC One M8
It's going to be difficult. I've been scouring the webs for weeks looking for the answer to that one. The Sunshine S-off didn't work for me. The only way I can find right now to do this requires finding somone that has purchaced the elusive "HTC java card" sometimes called the HTC S-off card. They can s-off your phone in a heartbeat. Wish I had one, I just can't see forking over 375.00 to get one.
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
jjmstang said:
So if your S-off there is a root method available ? I haven't found it if there is.
I'm running 5.0.1 Verizon S-off
Thanks in advance
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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If you're already s-off then just install twrp and flash, reboot recovery and it should ask you if you want to install root
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It seems you have to be rooted to install TWRP........at least what found
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
mpappas87 said:
You only have to be rooted to install it with their app. If you are s-off you can download it from their site and flash it with fastboot.
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I followed this method and I have re-gained root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...ow-to-root-ota-pc-s-off-t3048604#post59750567
Now I'm going to try and flash the Dragon ROM with Sense 7
Thanks again for the help
same boat ; old filmware?
just received this HTC One M8 thru verizon, lollipop 5.0.1 after day 2 OTA update. I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. Busy with daily tasks I haven't had a chance to sit and try unlocking bootloader until this weekend. I hit a wall when HTCdev returned an error after entering the identifier token \(^~^)/ . I did some reading, couldn't find anything.
I'm coming from a xt912 I've pretty much squeezed all I can get out of it since I got that brand new. I put CM12 on that just recently this HTC makes that the moto seem primitive. After bricking that (moto)spyder a few times flashing bad zips or doing things out of sequence I've put it thru the ringer and used RSDlite to just start from scratch. I have also found these device can put up with a lot and still bounce back. Geeze, I have three years of continuous text and data backed up on SD, lol . Something I haven't tried and wonder, does anyone know, is there any old VZW filmware for this M8 maybe 4.4.2 and try un locking from that point or Does the token id stay the same no matter what filmware?
Htcdev won't work on our phone because it's blocked by Verizon. Also, it's not possible to downgrade firmware or the OS without having s-off. At this time there's no way to get s-off on lollipop so you're pretty much stuck where you're at until an exploit is found by someone. Sunshine works for anything up to 4.4.4 but it won't work on a Verizon phone that's running 5.0.1. About all you can do right now is wait to see if Jcase and Beaups come up with a way to make it work on a Verizon phone too. I know that's not what you want to hear but that's how it is at the moment.
benjdevel said:
I've been rooting every device i've owned since 08. weekend. I hit a wall
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Okay, glad I didn't spend too much time trying to figure this out, never rooted a device before
Gotcha . ...Stupid vzw ? I glanced at a procedure to unlock SIM. Have no idea if that would help anything. Havent tried it. Ill have to keep a watch out for something. Really compaired to that spider this thing is like a ferrari. Not too much bloatware. Lollipop rocks and knowing Im up to date for the most part calms me a little. I still dont like the idea of not having complete control of my device. I've already received a few notification marketing related from verizon that i could not close unless i looked at it. I did notice control over saving things to my ext sd i do like. I am a student just getting into the ist world.wish there was something i could help with. 5 classes is killing me at the moment though. I did also try to install an imsi catcher apk updates version and it seemed like it ran fine. I could of swore that app needed root access. I could be wrong with the newest version though.
Joint Java Card?
Same boat (Verizon, htc one m8) . . . For some reason I was thinking Lollipop was the update which was still able to be handled by Weaksauce 2. So I accepted the OTA, without thinking. -hadn't gotten around to s-off, etc., before this time around.
So, in some 2013 posts, I saw that some people had tried to pool resources and share a Java Card, etc. But sending phones to a "card keeper", is expensive, and unsafe (besides having to live without your phone for a few days.). jcase, on their company's IRC support channel, indicates that the card is more than just a simple microSD card, which one might be able to dd a filesystem image from (i.e. copy it for distribution). That's entirely possible, since all SD cards have micro-controllers for dealing with failed sectors, etc (check out "Bunnie's Blog"). Basically, the controller could make it tough/impossible to access part of the card, and can take care of decrimenting credits, encryption, signing, etc. Even if it were a basic SD card, the use of signed binaries, and external license/resource server, etc. could still make it tough . . . -although the card I found states it needs no internet connection. It would be much cheaper to send the card, rather than phones. But how to coordinate and pool the cost seems like it could be a pain?
So here's what I'm thinking about:
Someone (me?) could purchase a legit, new htc Java Card. After I use my 2 or 3 credits to s-off/unlock my phone, I could put the card on, say, ebay for maybe $5 less than what I bought it for. Then, another person could use some credits, then sell it again, for a little cheaper, etc. If we want to keep it "in-house", we could just send to each other and pay with PayPal or Google Wallet. But, with e-bay, one could just copy/build on the ad the first person started. Take a picture of your phone's screen, when the remaining credits are shown, and put it on the ad. With 2000 credits, my conservative estimate is that it could cost less than 72 cents, for each unlock. The $5 incremental discount might be close enough to cover re-shipping costs.
The Sunshine guys have, for free, helped many of us over the years. So I was planning to purchase their solution, if it worked for this situation. But their download page states that "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.". They indicate they could get us supported soon, but they also indicate that Lollipop is much more secure, with SELinux updated and better enforced., etc. So I am a little concerned about when that will actually happen. I see they've been posting updates for Motorola, and making sure people are able to pay them via PayPal, etc. But nothing yet for Verizon 5.0.x.
Does anyone know/recall how long after the last android update, someone came up with a root exploit? I'm just trying to get a rough guesstimate about the minimum time people will have to wait this time. -then add time because Lollipop is apparently significantly more secure. I guess I don't completely mind that my phone might be secure enough to not make it tougher for someone to get into the deepest parts of it, without specialized hardware (Java Card), if I were to lose it.
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
libredroid said:
But, really, what Verizon and htc and others have done to these devices . . . They are, essentially, specialized computers. It would be like if Dell or another computer manufacturer sold you a computer, without allowing you access to your administrator account (and no clear/easy way to boot from another drive, to recover/fix things, etc.). That's crap.
I dunno. What do people think? I suppose I could just try it, and see.
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I like the idea of that Java card:good: and I completely agree with you on how wrong it is restricting administrative rights, especially considering these things are comparable to a new computer.
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Are new devices updated already? If I were to get a phone from verizon today will it already have the Lollipop update or would I get a still root-able device that I can deny the update?
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No guarantees either way.
What is the status on SunShine for our device?
I got the Java Card.
@vazersecurity: still "Verizon 5.0.x users will have to wait until we update.", as of today.
I got the card, as previously proposed, and was able to get S-Off on my USA-Verizon HTC One M8 with the Lollipop OTA.
I needed to download and place two files in the root of the card (now done).
I then (CID changed) was able to use htcdev.com to unlock my bootloader, and ultimately gain root. I'm now happily running a current Cyanogenmod ROM. To regain some functionality from my camera, etc., I installed the htc camera, HTC Gallery, and Zoe apps from the Play store.
So I've already created a listing for the card on eBay. I assume the forum rules won't allow me to post the link. But I, honestly, always intended to use that as a way to make it more convenient to share with a community of people who wish to join in. -not to try and make any money off the card. Again, rather than have people ship phones to one person (with the shipping cost, and being without their phone), if figured it would be cheaper, and less disruptive, to ship the actual card. So, you'd purchase the card from the previous user, then re-list it for a bit less than what you paid for it. With the starting cost and credits, S-Off is about 30 cents, each. As the card credits get used up, it gets cheaper. Maybe each person would end up paying a few dollars for S-Off, when you factor in the shipping.
Maybe a moderator could chime in about whether it might be OK to post a link to this "community-intended" listing. -or suggest a better contribution/distribution method.
Also, since many users in our situations have been out of luck regarding S-Off, for a few months now, might a moderator or someone suggest/implement a way to post/place this information more prominently, in the forums?
Thanks.