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Question: Chroot/X11 Window/Xorg/Xserver in Android

Hi Everyone,
I have few questions regarding Android.
Currently, I don't have an Android and I consider getting one.
Kindly, please answer my following questions [Related to hacking]:
1- Does Android Support Chroot-ing? (Assuming it is been rooted)
2- If it does, is it possible to start/run Xorg/Xserver (Natively)?
3- If Chroot-ing is not possible nor starting an X-server. How easy to dual boot Debian/Fedora/Etc ... in Android phones?
I'm considering to buy Android to chroot or booting a linux in it (ARM Type).
I have already wasted a lots of time trying get my an answer for my questions, the only thing I found is about using VNC on android, but nothing about X11 Forwarding.
If you don't recommend doing any of the above, could you tell me why not [RAM/Technical reason]?
Thanks in advance | You will get thanks after answering me

I guess, I shouldn't scratch "Thanks in advance". Otherwise I might had a better luck.

Hi, may be is too late, i find your post searching info on chrooting.
It's possible installing busybox and like you may had find : on nexus ubuntu can be used.
You can use it from terminal or from vnc so you will have X.
I installed busybox but the bootubuntu script don't find chroot, i installed it from GOT's OpenRecovery (first option)

Xorg does run, I tested it, but the screen becomes garbled, because of Android and Xorg tries to write to screen simultaneously.. I'm trying to find a solution for that lately.

@theGanymedes you run xorg without vnc ? you havn't display error ?
screenshot ?
thanks

New X server written as app for Android
Somebody has written an xserver for android:
my20percent.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/android-x-server/
It is open source:
code.google.com/p/android-xserver/
And is on the market (search for 'x server').
Needs some work but could be the answer to running all gui apps from a chroot inside android!

[Q] Motorola/Symbol MC75A6 and Linux

Hello, i'm trying to get linux running on this pda. As there's no specific port (or i did not find any), i'd tried several packages like Rhoubuntu, project Android (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=627997), also titchy linux (btw ran succefuly on my old HTC Uni. ), but basically, i've got struct with HaRET. The early log file looks fine, the image is loaded, but all ends up at "Jumping to kernel" message. May some haret arguments change help? or haret will not work with this device?. Do you have anybody some experience with running linux on MC75A, or similar?
Thanks for any advise...

I am currently attempting to get Android running on a Motorola MC75 and also coming across the same issues. i will be persevering with a good friend of mine who should be able to shed some light on the matter,
Many thanks

[Q] [ANDROID] ROOT HELP: Motorola Backflip with MAC OSX

Hello All:
I have had lots of fun learning from you guys and lurking. I have modified my homescreen and love running Go Launcher EX on my backflip. But now, I need more!
I have tried, without success, to root my Motorola Backflip on Mac. So I've come to the experts. I know its not the best android phone, but it's what I have until I am eligible for upgrade.
I have searched and found similar threads with no answers. Perhaps they were overlooked. I cannot use unrevoked because I own a Backflip.
Is there anyone here who has done it and can help? I would like to root, overclock and perhaps whatever the most stable Cyanogen rom is?
It is currently running the Motorola provided 2.1 upgrade with a few apps.
I am on Mac OSX 10.5
MB300
BLUR Version: 3.0.1390
Firmware. 2.1 -update1
Kernel: 2.6.29
Build number ERD70
I have downloaded ADB / SDK for Mac as well.
Thank you all, Any help is appreciated.

Surely one of the XDA geniuses has a solution to this...right?

Hey, I have neither the phone or a Mac but since I'm prepping to upgrade my friend's backflip from 1.5(!) to whatever the most stable rom is, this caught my attention.
I don't have any direct experience to offer you, but I have thought of a workaround to at least get you on a similar page as everyone else.
Your issue is that you have a Mac combined with a very unpopular phone so you really can't find simple easy solution to rooting and Rom(ing) your phone so I'm thinking that if you can switch your platform to something with universal instructions you can then go to the basics of using ADB to root your phone as I'm sure that there are guides for that.
So I'm thinking that you would use Ubuntu or an Ubuntu deriviative (as there are a few guides about achieving root and ADB through Ubuntu) and then find instructions for rooting your phone through ADB. It's a little bit of a workaround, but it's not as complicated as it sounds.
Best thing about this method is that you don't have to change anything to your computer as you can use a live CD or a Live USB to run Ubuntu from and then when you're done remove the disc or USB and reboot your computer and you're right back to your normal Mac experience.
First thing you'll need is to find an Ubuntu version that you want to use. I'd recommend 10.10 as 11.04 has some bugs from what I hear and instead of using Vanilla Ubuntu, use one of the skinned versions that come with lots of the visual and effective tasks already implemented (Sort of like HTC Sense over stock Android 1.6) I use Pinguy OS, click here for the review or a really popular version is Linux Mint.
Once that's done, look up instructions for using a Live CD on a Mac. Here's a Set
(You only need to do Step 2 & 3 once you download Linux Mint or Pinguy OS)
Now once you finally have Ubuntu/Pinguy/Linux Mint running,
review this Thread here on getting ADB set up for Ubuntu.
After that, you should be able to find instructions for rooting the Backflip using ADB and then you can play with Rom's to your hearts content.
Okay, I know this looks complicated but it's really pretty simple, it's more reading than actual work.
Read and learn about Ubuntu/Pinguy OS/Linux Mint
Download Version of your choice to a USB or a DVD
Boot into a Live version
Follow ADB in Ubuntu instructions to install it
Find out how to root your phone
Root Phone
Download Rom to root of card and install, enjoy and have fun.
Just remember that do all of your reading before you start, don't get confused about the different versions of Ubuntu because Ubuntu is just the basic not quite as pretty while Pinguy OS and Linux Mint are Ubuntu with some nice gloss and etc...and finally remember that nothing gets saved on your Live USB or Live CD so once you restart the computer, it's all gone so make sure you are rooted and satisfied before you exit the Session.
Once you get all the reading done and comprehended, it's probably not more than 15 minutes of work, if I wasn't in the process of moving, I'd follow the directions as best as I could to see how it works, but I probably won't be stable until next weekend at the earliest.
Good luck.

I thought about doind somethign like that but its just seemed like a REALLY roundabout way of doing something that looks so simple.
I will hold out for a more simple solution but if nothing comes up I guess that may be my only option...
Thanks

Sorry I couldn't come up with something that was more direct, but that was the only way I could think of to help you.
Why don't you try here? This Site is much more active for the Backflip and maybe you can get some better assistance.

i have a moto backflip rooted and running cyanogenMod 6 and it was a pain in the ass to root and have the rom put on. if you google "update motorola backflip 2.2" you should see something with the name "tech geek guy". he gives u step by step procedure to loading the rom. since we have a moto backflip, we cant use the z4root since the backflip doesnt allow outside market apps to be installed. but once u have this rom on your device, u can install outside apps. anyways. u have to use the one click method or watever its called. i used a pc and not a mac so this is as much info as i can give u. sorry.
GOOGLE DOES WONDERS PEOPLE. USE IT. : )

Can Atrix 2 run on Ubuntu

Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?

zq6559636 said:
Are there anyone succeed run on Ubuntu?
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you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)

darth_nihar said:
you mean ubuntu touch or the webtop ubuntu port........(without dock)
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the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.

zq6559636 said:
the webtop ubuntu,can use lapdock.
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Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.

jimbridgman said:
Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....

darth_nihar said:
You can always run a x86 emulator and install it try using bochs....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389700
just create the disk image on ur pc of ubuntu or even windows if you want just run the apk.........
but be careful to run it on a separate:good: clean rom new system coz it uses up alot of ram and cpu.....
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I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim

jimbridgman said:
I am not sure that will work quite the way he intends to run it.
The real issue is the drivers for the lapdock/HD dock and using ubuntu with it.... that is why the old version that motorola gave with gingerbread was so nice, is because they had all of it running from the phones underlying android kernel with the drivers for both docks built in. This will be "emulating" a PC, and will have a self contained kernel and drivers that running in an x86 emulated env.
Yes it will technically run Ubuntu, but if you read the OPs request a little deeper (and post number 3), he mentioned the lapdock, so that will be the real issue. and the lapdock apks now only use the landscape mode, and even the old ones can't be redone with out the old kernel structure and underlying root filesystem that was a part of / (which even with root is still not writeable on this phone without an unlocked kernel). That was actually my first hack on this phone, was to open up the full ubuntu, so that it was not locked down, and you run any linux app that was compiled for the ARM kernel all from synaptic.
Jim
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True but as you said they removed the ubuntu scripts after the 2.3.6 roms so integration into ics cant be done unless we actually sit and write the code for it or say port it from the earlier versions emulators work pretty fine but i was thinking why not make a standalone version which can be run on bmm as another rom that would make it better in the performance perspective as the base android rom would not be using the cpu resources.... give a thought on that concept or even porting ubuntu touch to atrix 2 would be gr8 but the locked bootloader could be a issue

jimbridgman said:
Only if you are running gingerbread. I wrote some scripts to hack a full Ubuntu webtop. Motorola however removed the Ubuntu portions from ICS on, and the removed all of the low level drivers and file system info needed to even try a new hack.
Instead moto gave us landscape mode of android on the dock/webtop.
I and others have tried to bring it back without success.
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Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.

zq6559636 said:
Oh, i see.That is to say there is no way can. Run on ubuntu in ICS.
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With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".

jimbridgman said:
With a dock or lapdock, no.
You can run Ubuntu on android and vnc into it, or run it in a chrooted env. If you do this it will not work like webtop did with the docks. It kind of is like running it in a virtual machine, sort of. If used in the vnc way, you could use a vnc app to get it to display on the lapdock/HD dock, but again it runs much like a VM an performance is similar to something like this. There are a number of how to's, if you Google "android Ubuntu vnc".
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Jim is there anyone trying to port the Ubuntu touch to the Atix 2
why not try to bring this new thing over .........

Because you need an unlocked bootloader. Ubuntu touch uses its own bootloader, just like the full Ubuntu desktop uses lilo. Besides it is still really alpha. Things still do not fully work. Music and video playback is still broken.
If you must give it a try you MUST have a phone with a fully unlocked bootloader. Any nexus phone or the sgs3/4 or one of the note phones, etc.
I wish we could port it, but without the bootloader it is impossible at this point. Kexec will not boot the kernel, yet.. I say yet, because I am sure we can crack that eventually.
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Lineage / custom ROM / Ubuntu on Asus TF101 in 2017

I have recently inherited an Asus TF101 EEEpad and have spent ages trying to find a way to root, install a custom ROM or a lightweight linux on it. Most of the links on this forum seem to have expired or don't work. I got root to work eventually with Kingo Root (at least the Root Checker app says the device is rooted). TWRP crashes frequently and reports 'no recovery partition found' if I try to flash.
Also, I don't seem to be able to reach APX mode. I have tried holding down the power and vol up buttons, but there is no sign of the device when i do 'adb devices' in native OS X or my Windows virtual machine.
Has anyone flashed this device / installed a new OS recently? I would like to run Lubuntu or maybe Arch with LXDE if this is possible...
Any pointers welcome.

Asus EeePAD TF101
comiconomenclaturist said:
I have recently inherited an Asus TF101 EEEpad and have spent ages trying to find a way to root, install a custom ROM or a lightweight linux on it. Most of the links on this forum seem to have expired or don't work. I got root to work eventually with Kingo Root (at least the Root Checker app says the device is rooted). TWRP crashes frequently and reports 'no recovery partition found' if I try to flash.
Also, I don't seem to be able to reach APX mode. I have tried holding down the power and vol up buttons, but there is no sign of the device when i do 'adb devices' in native OS X or my Windows virtual machine.
Has anyone flashed this device / installed a new OS recently? I would like to run Lubuntu or maybe Arch with LXDE if this is possible...
Any pointers welcome.
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Hi.
I'm in the same case of you.
Try to find older file to be able to make the dual boot possible on this old tablet.
But in vain all interessting files are not reachable or i have got "error 404" not found on the download pages.
Try to contact the creator of the OLIFE script and i'm waiting.
if you have news on it tell me.
I will try to apply a second MOD - ADD a HDD on it = like a member done before - the pictures are not avaible but i have understand the process and i like to make DIY.
And another MOD = integrate a 3G or 4G key in it.
Best regards.

+1

Did anyone manage to get anywhere with this?
I had issues with APX too, but after installing Universal Naked Drivers on Win 10 I managed to get TWRP on and then KatKiss 6.0 (Android) on.
Really interested in learning how to get Ubuntu Touch or any distro really on if anyone's still listening to this thread.

This might be of interest to anyone still looking to put a Linux Distro on to the TF101, PostmarketOS: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer_(asus-tf101) which is based upon Alpine I think. Instructions here: https://github.com/antonialoytorrens/TF101-linux-images/blob/master/README.md

acor_uk said:
This might be of interest to anyone still looking to put a Linux Distro on to the TF101, PostmarketOS: https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_Pad_Transformer_(asus-tf101) which is based upon Alpine I think. Instructions here: https://github.com/antonialoytorrens/TF101-linux-images/blob/master/README.md
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Yes, indeed as you say. I do maintain this repository and a Linux distro on this tab is the way to go. It allows you to install updated software and bring it back to life. The GPU is not working, unfortunately, but it's very useful if you want to do lightweight tasks. You have to do some tweaks to get there but it's worth the result if you want to tinker with it.
By the way, I have collected as much as possible about the TF101 (before XDA migrated to the new infrastructure) and I uploaded it here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tf101-linux-images/files/