[Q] How to run full Web Pages On Surface - Microsoft Surface

I try to see www.bet365.com and others in IE desktop Mode or Metro mode and he always open the mobile version of the web pages.
I would like to see the full web pages like happens in Facebook. Any setting for desable the mobile version detection?
Thanks

chaves said:
I try to see www.bet365.com and others in IE desktop Mode or Metro mode and he always open the mobile version of the web pages.
I would like to see the full web pages like happens in Facebook. Any setting for desable the mobile version detection?
Thanks
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Very strange that bet365 is treating IE10 as a mobile device, but maybe it's redirecting to mobile based on the ARM CPU.
There is a fix. Open the page in desktop IE10, open F12 Developer Tools, then from the 'Tools' menu select 'Change user agent string' and 'Internet Explorer 9'.

chris3ds said:
Very strange that bet365 is treating IE10 as a mobile device, but maybe it's redirecting to mobile based on the ARM CPU.
There is a fix. Open the page in desktop IE10, open F12 Developer Tools, then from the 'Tools' menu select 'Change user agent string' and 'Internet Explorer 9'.
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Thank you for the answer!
I made that, and it works, but... there´s always a "but"
Changing the user agent, scroll with fingers stops working, it´s only possible using the trackpad! Same if i choose other user agent like chrome or firefox.
If you know other work around, please let me know!
Thanks again!

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Internet Explorer Not Opening Up Mobile Versions of Websites

I have always used Opera for normal websites and always set IE to use the mobile version of websites. Whatever I do, I cannot get Internet Explorer to open all mobile versions of websites like tivo.com or hhonors.com or delta.com or any others. I manually have to enter the mobile version URL myself. I've changed the settings to MOBILE COMPUTER and even messed with the user agent registry entries. I can't get anything to work. Any ideas?
gbruyn said:
I have always used Opera for normal websites and always set IE to use the mobile version of websites. Whatever I do, I cannot get Internet Explorer to open all mobile versions of websites like tivo.com or hhonors.com or delta.com or any others. I manually have to enter the mobile version URL myself. I've changed the settings to MOBILE COMPUTER and even messed with the user agent registry entries. I can't get anything to work. Any ideas?
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I don't know why but when I changed my IE settings to mobile device, and I typed in the address bar "mlb.com", it went to the mobile version, where as before with the desktop computer setting, if I would type "mlb.com" it would display the desktop version of the site. Maybe its something specific to your device (i.e. any software installed, ect.) but when I changed the setting it did go to the mobile version. I also checked the sites you listed and experience the same problem. The other thing it may be is that those site may not have their site set up to detect a mobile device as mlb.com & other sites have. Just because they have a mobile site, doesn't necessarily mean they set up their site to detect your device setting & redirect you to the mobile version of their site. Were you able to see these sites detected as mobile site on a different device other than the TP2?
Try an older verson of P.I.E.
I could not use GoToMyPC because the Touch Pro 2 P.I.E was not treated as a mobile browser.
The only solution I found was using an older version of P.I.E. Some Touch Pro 2 features will not work (zoom bar, double tapping screen) but not a big deal.
Hope this helps.

[HELP] Opera Mobile 11 User Agent - Full Web Pages

I just downloaded this broswer and it seems to be extremely fast and snappy on my Vibrant. [Bionix 1.3.1] My question is, the user agent seems to be permanently set in stone as mobile. No matter what, I can't even find links to the full webpage. For example, engadget won't show it's "view full webpage" button.
Any of you guys have the same issue? Is there a way to change the user agent to desktop? Thanks
Same here, it's extremely annoying. The things that annoy me the most about Opera Mobile are:
-The built in file downloader (the folder it saves it to and when press home it usually stops the download)
-Whenever I click on a YouTube video in Opera Mobile it plays it through the stock video player not the YouTube app.
-the trouble i go through to see a desktop version of a site like you said.
1.type opera:config
2. user preferences
3. custom user agent
4. paste this Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
5. save & restart browser.
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iynfynity said:
1.type opera:config
2. user preferences
3. custom user agent
4. paste this Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
5. save & restart browser.
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Why thank you iynfynity. Good to see you here. I've been taking a little break from Dungeon Defenders if you haven't noticed. I'll try to visit the irc tonight.
lol haven't played for 3 weeks.
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iynfynity said:
1.type opera:config
2. user preferences
3. custom user agent
4. paste this Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
5. save & restart browser.
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I have been using every browser imaginable and that simple swap made opera my goto browser
Anyway to change the user agent to trick Hulu into letting us watch on mobile?
So I may sound completely stupid for asking this, but how exactly do you restart Opera on an Android phone? If I leave the browser, stop it from the manage applications menu, and reenter, the settings that I saved have been erased and returned their previous status. What do I need to do to make this user-agent change permanent?
Apollo17 said:
So I may sound completely stupid for asking this, but how exactly do you restart Opera on an Android phone? If I leave the browser, stop it from the manage applications menu, and reenter, the settings that I saved have been erased and returned their previous status. What do I need to do to make this user-agent change permanent?
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You need to press save and the bottom of the User Preferences section.
I'm a bit sad that it doesn't play well with the default Android useragent - it seems to force a larger page size on many mobile sites/pages.
That string above doesnt change anything. Is there any other solution or other string to fill in?
GMKcz said:
That string above doesnt change anything. Is there any other solution or other string to fill in?
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you're doing something wrong.
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mejogid said:
You need to press save and the bottom of the User Preferences section.
I'm a bit sad that it doesn't play well with the default Android useragent - it seems to force a larger page size on many mobile sites/pages.
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This. It's just weird. Wikipedia always opens it's full version, don't know why. And google's mobile version that opens in opera is the old one, not the slick touch screen based version that opens in the default browser.
It's a shame, because text aligning and zooming are the fastest I've experienced. Although Swype is pretty slow in Opera.
worked well! now i can view Engadget in desktop mode. thanks.
Just a quick off-topic question:
I use Google voice search widget and look for a location. Stock browser shows me the Google results. I select the location, read the details and then select the "directions". Stock browser gives me a nice option to complete the action with my navigation app, but Opera simply doesn't. Is there any way to get around this?
Changing the user agent like that has no effect currently. You need to have Opera spoof it with another settings.
Go to the same opera:config page and look for "Spoof UserAgent ID". It's under the User Agent header, or you can just search "spoof". It's a numeric value between 1 and 5:
Default (Opera / Opera Mobile)
Mozilla (Opera mentioned)
Internet Explorer (Opera mentioned)
Mozilla (Opera not mentioned)
Internet Explorer (Opera not mentioned)
I've got a feature request up on Opera forums, mobile wish list section. I suggest you guys bump it if this limitation irks you. A real user agent switcher is something OpMobile really needs.
I ran into the user agent problem today, it forced me to go back to the stock browser, its disappointing that it doesn't have a quick way to switch the agent.
This used to work for me but I have stoped useing opera as of late, so I can not confirm if it still does
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iynfynity said:
1.type opera:config
2. user preferences
3. custom user agent
4. paste this Opera/9.80 (Linux; en) Presto/2.7.81 Version/11.00
5. save & restart browser.
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This fix still worked for me.
Worked great on Galaxy Tab
just tried it on my tab all websites doesn't even mention the mobile version.. all desktop!!
router54g said:
Changing the user agent like that has no effect currently. You need to have Opera spoof it with another settings.
Go to the same opera:config page and look for "Spoof UserAgent ID". It's under the User Agent header, or you can just search "spoof". It's a numeric value between 1 and 5:
Default (Opera / Opera Mobile)
Mozilla (Opera mentioned)
Internet Explorer (Opera mentioned)
Mozilla (Opera not mentioned)
Internet Explorer (Opera not mentioned)
I've got a feature request up on Opera forums, mobile wish list section. I suggest you guys bump it if this limitation irks you. A real user agent switcher is something OpMobile really needs.
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This doesnt work either
worked for me!

[Q] Browsers and mobile sites

Evening all.
I've tried downloading Opera, Dolphin and Firefox. When trying to go to sites such as facebook as well as many others,they keep automatically diverting me to the mobile version of the site.
Do any of the browsers have a fix or add-on to stop this happening? It's so annoying!
In at least Dolphin Mini(What I run on my Captivate) you can go into the options(toolbox) and switch the orientation from mobile to desktop versions.
KTownGT said:
In at least Dolphin Mini(What I run on my Captivate) you can go into the options(toolbox) and switch the orientation from mobile to desktop versions.
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This. I've tried the same on Opera Mini/Mobile but it doesn't stop the mobile view
I know in the default browser you just go to options and change the browser string.
I haven't seen any mobile sites since I changed that setting.
This is driving me nuts! Almost every site I go to gives me the mobile version.
Going from memory, so this might not be 100% accurate, but should be close.
In Opera, type opera:config in the address bar. Go to User Prefs, and scroll down to Customer User Agent. Input any desktop UA string, save, and restart Opera.
Edit - here's a list of UA strings to pick from:
http://www.useragentstring.com/pages/useragentstring.php
Unfortunately, I don't think Opera let's you paste into that field, so you'll have to retype the whole thing which is kind of a pain.
Make sure you are not using remembered links or bookmarked links from when you did not have ( use full site) on. It will keep taking you back to the mobile version.
Easiest way:
open the stock browser
open the menu on the top right corner
hit "settings"
hit "advanced"
hit "User agent string"
then just select desktop mode
wow you guys don't read.
Dolphin and Firefox have not been updated to really support honeycomb so they still load the mobile sites, there are tricks around it, but they don't work great.
Opera Mobile is made for tablets but is currently glitched where even if you have the mobile setting as off, it still loads the mobile versions of pages.
you could try doing the opera:config and see if that fixes it, i know i'm going to try.
*edit* just tried editing the opera config. doesn't work. still loads the mobile site. I've sent them 10 e-mails about it and there are literally hundreds of comments pointing that out but apparently opera doesn't care and they refuse to even acknowledge the problem.
AtomicAge said:
Easiest way:
open the stock browser
open the menu on the top right corner
hit "settings"
hit "advanced"
hit "User agent string"
then just select desktop mode
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+1
Only using the stock browser, and that method has worked a charm!
Rio
neok44 said:
*edit* just tried editing the opera config. doesn't work. still loads the mobile site. I've sent them 10 e-mails about it and there are literally hundreds of comments pointing that out but apparently opera doesn't care and they refuse to even acknowledge the problem.
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It works, I use it pretty frequently when the stock browser is being a pain. Clear your cache, history, etc and make sure you're not clicking a link/bookmark that is pointed at the mobile version of a site. Also make sure you input the UA string correctly, word for word.
In firefox, get the addon called Phony and then change the new preference that it adds to your settings to "firefox desktop" and you're set While you're at it, get the adblock extension as well.
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bedoig said:
It works, I use it pretty frequently when the stock browser is being a pain. Clear your cache, history, etc and make sure you're not clicking a link/bookmark that is pointed at the mobile version of a site. Also make sure you input the UA string correctly, word for word.
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what UA string did you use?
i put in chrome and firefox and both still brought me to mobile sites when i typed in www.google.com and www.engadget.com
neok44 said:
what UA string did you use?
i put in chrome and firefox and both still brought me to mobile sites when i typed in www.google.com and www.engadget.com
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I think I used a Chrome OSX string. The browser also has to be restarted for it to take effect. You'll either need to shut down the program from Android's app management in settings, or just reboot your TF. And make sure you clear all your caches.
Edit - or if you really want to be sure, uninstall and reinstall Opera. Then edit the UA string before you browse to a single website, restart browser, enjoy.
wait, so is this: "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/534.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/13.0.766.0 Safari/534.36" the user string? cause i didn't type all that in. i just typed in chrome.
Ya, you need to type in the entire thing. You can find a shorter one if you want, just as long as it's identified as a desktop OS/browser.
bedoig said:
Ya, you need to type in the entire thing. You can find a shorter one if you want, just as long as it's identified as a desktop OS/browser.
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just did, did exactly as you said, i uninstalled the app, reinstalled, then went to opera:config as soon as it opened, typed that whole thing in, and still, mobile sites.
alright apparently it didn't save, going back in shows the user agent id as 1 again. WTF.
You hit save after inputting the string, right? And restarted the browser after you hit save? A full restart, not just back out and go back in.
Oh, there are two different sections with UA stuff. You don't want the one that gives number options, that one never worked for me. I'll look up the exact setting name, but I think it's under User Preferences and then Custom User Agent.
alright i'll try there

[Q] google.com desktop version on wp7

Hi,
Whenever I visit google.com on my Omnia 7 it defaults to the mobile version even though I've selected Desktop Version in the settings. I have to click "Classic" on google's website to get the desktop version which still isn't the real desktop version because it is lacking the filtering bar on the left side.
Is it possible to get the full desktop version on wp7?
I have the same problem on my Mozart running Mango RTM. Also when searching with google and going to a link it seems as if I am using google a a proxy as I visit the site through Google.
If I set it to classic its fine. I really wish there was an Opera mobile for phone7
I had that problem, but when I upgraded my Omnia 7 to Mango RTM it stopped..
If you open Internet Explorer, click the three dots, click settings you'll see an option that says "Website Preference." Change that to desktop version and this should fix your issue. However, all sites will turn into their full site, instead of their mobile.
You may need to re-click the "Classic" button on Google for it to change.
Diablosblizz said:
If you open Internet Explorer, click the three dots, click settings you'll see an option that says "Website Preference." Change that to desktop version and this should fix your issue. However, all sites will turn into their full site, instead of their mobile.
You may need to re-click the "Classic" button on Google for it to change.
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It's already on desktop version. It gives me Google's mobile site and I have to click classic which gives me the desktop version but without the sidebar options for search filtering. I was looking for the one with the sidebar.
Bump! I think simple cookie expiration date override may help, does anyone have a clue how to implement one?

Always Force Desktop Website Version

Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
Menergy said:
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
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If the problem is website's UA check, often you can choose an AdWay or something similar, on my phone i'm surprised to see as "auto check" some pop up, check and box.
But for what never stop working, that's need update every day...
There isn't much you can do in this case.
Sometimes in some browsers you've an option with whitelist or other but I do believe they can be related to the mobile display or desktop of a particular site.
Maybe there is an add-on xposed or plugin that I don't know
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
Menergy said:
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
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I use "user agent switcher" for chrome and it always works. It requires root though.
Can you provide an example of a website that refuses to show the desktop version?
And additionally, your build.prop contains your device's information. The browser might be transmitting that information to the website.
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
Menergy said:
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
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The build.prop is a text file which should be located in system/ folder. And you usually can't view the contents of that folder without root, so that's why you haven't been able to find it.
I visited ee.co.uk using chrome, and I was able to switch between the mobile and desktop version of the site without any issues, even without using the UA changing app. All I did was select "request desktop site" from the side menu.
I tried using CM's stock browser though, and just like you experienced, the same website refused to load in desktop mode. I even went as far as changing the UA in its settings menu and even that didn't work.
So all that you wrote in the last two paragraphs have been confirmed.
Right now, it's either chrome or root until the devs fix/properly implement their UA changing feature.
I was testing other browsers the whole morning here and finally reluctantly tried Firefox. Somehow its Android version never impressed me or was too buggy for me when tested before. Probably because just before going for it I tried Pale Moon and have seen that I can readily edit just about everything via about:config. The Pale Moon's UI settings menu was however completely missing (probably a bug), along with no other controls, so I had to skip it.
So I am glad to report that using Firefox's "Request desktop website" option I finally was able to load desktop versions of websites that were forcing me to always have their mobile one instead. This means that Firefix for now becomes my main browser. As suggested by you, I tried first with Chrome but with no success (using its internal user agent options). There were a few Chrome user agent switchers in the market but although some of them did not explicitly require root, upon starting them they did so I had to uninstall them.
My question yet remains, what exactly tells websites not to load full version, even if browser's user agent reports the correct values. I will leave this to me as I go deeper into this. Glad to have got what I wanted
Thanks a lot for all your help.
Just to add for all having my problem and using Firefox for Android.
By default Firefox will always load the mobile website version and every time you will need to tick "Request desktop site" if you dislike it. As I do, there is an addon called "Desktop by Default" that will always keep the tick on for you. You may instead try creating a new string called "general.useragent.override" adding a desktop OS signature but it won't work (tested by me) for exactly the same websites I had issues with above, so do use the addon instead. It will however work for all other websites that don't have issues with Desktop mode on other browsers.
There is another string that I disabled also called general.useragent.site_specific_overrides.
Tweaking with the Chrome for Android settings seems to require root so Firefox in my case is a God bless. I hope this is helpful to all others with my issue...

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