I have always used Opera for normal websites and always set IE to use the mobile version of websites. Whatever I do, I cannot get Internet Explorer to open all mobile versions of websites like tivo.com or hhonors.com or delta.com or any others. I manually have to enter the mobile version URL myself. I've changed the settings to MOBILE COMPUTER and even messed with the user agent registry entries. I can't get anything to work. Any ideas?
gbruyn said:
I have always used Opera for normal websites and always set IE to use the mobile version of websites. Whatever I do, I cannot get Internet Explorer to open all mobile versions of websites like tivo.com or hhonors.com or delta.com or any others. I manually have to enter the mobile version URL myself. I've changed the settings to MOBILE COMPUTER and even messed with the user agent registry entries. I can't get anything to work. Any ideas?
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I don't know why but when I changed my IE settings to mobile device, and I typed in the address bar "mlb.com", it went to the mobile version, where as before with the desktop computer setting, if I would type "mlb.com" it would display the desktop version of the site. Maybe its something specific to your device (i.e. any software installed, ect.) but when I changed the setting it did go to the mobile version. I also checked the sites you listed and experience the same problem. The other thing it may be is that those site may not have their site set up to detect a mobile device as mlb.com & other sites have. Just because they have a mobile site, doesn't necessarily mean they set up their site to detect your device setting & redirect you to the mobile version of their site. Were you able to see these sites detected as mobile site on a different device other than the TP2?
Try an older verson of P.I.E.
I could not use GoToMyPC because the Touch Pro 2 P.I.E was not treated as a mobile browser.
The only solution I found was using an older version of P.I.E. Some Touch Pro 2 features will not work (zoom bar, double tapping screen) but not a big deal.
Hope this helps.
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Anyone tried it yet???
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/02/google-mobile-app-now-available-on.html
I notice the search bar looks very similar to the one in android, definitely prettier than the old google search today plug-in for wm...
Gonna try it, wonder if its tied to PIE. Hope not. Would be awesome if it could use opera mini though I really doubt that.
It's nice that it's possible to bring it up in any app using a hotkey...
I cannot get the dmn cab out of it. the "m.google.com" is a redirecting looper
cannot get the cab too
can someone post it / attach it?
Ok I found how to get it.
Just use Internet Explorer Mobile to download cabs from google's mobile phone related websites. IE Mobile is lousy enough to be detected as a mobile phone browser; Most other modern mobile browser (such as opera mobile), are detected as desktop browser, and that's why we can't reach the page with the download (wonder why by the way).
Anyway I attached the cab, that I go using previously described method.
Ive been using it a few days now.
It uses your default system browser, whatever you have that set as. Essentially it is just icons for all of the google apps and a search bar that passes info to your browser. Would be pretty sweet on a faster phone but my phone takes about 20 seconds just to open iris or opera mobile so the time saved of not having to goto google and manually do the search is negligible
I am still using it though, saves some desktop space vs the Icons I had up for all of my google apps on claunch... and it looks cool.
Hi,
Whenever I visit google.com on my Omnia 7 it defaults to the mobile version even though I've selected Desktop Version in the settings. I have to click "Classic" on google's website to get the desktop version which still isn't the real desktop version because it is lacking the filtering bar on the left side.
Is it possible to get the full desktop version on wp7?
I have the same problem on my Mozart running Mango RTM. Also when searching with google and going to a link it seems as if I am using google a a proxy as I visit the site through Google.
If I set it to classic its fine. I really wish there was an Opera mobile for phone7
I had that problem, but when I upgraded my Omnia 7 to Mango RTM it stopped..
If you open Internet Explorer, click the three dots, click settings you'll see an option that says "Website Preference." Change that to desktop version and this should fix your issue. However, all sites will turn into their full site, instead of their mobile.
You may need to re-click the "Classic" button on Google for it to change.
Diablosblizz said:
If you open Internet Explorer, click the three dots, click settings you'll see an option that says "Website Preference." Change that to desktop version and this should fix your issue. However, all sites will turn into their full site, instead of their mobile.
You may need to re-click the "Classic" button on Google for it to change.
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It's already on desktop version. It gives me Google's mobile site and I have to click classic which gives me the desktop version but without the sidebar options for search filtering. I was looking for the one with the sidebar.
Bump! I think simple cookie expiration date override may help, does anyone have a clue how to implement one?
On my rooted Desire i never had an issue, the roms I used included the user agent option in the browser and changing that to desktop ensured that every site I visited was the full desktop version and I was never forced to view mobile versions. The Sensation seems to be a problem though. I am able to activate the user agent setting in the browser but even when I change it to desktop there are still sites that insist on displaying mobile versions (mainly adult video sites but the odd betting site and i'm sure there are more). Is there anything else I can do to fix this? I have even tried typing various custom user agent strings, nicked from other browsers, in there but this still doesn't work. I cant help but think these sites are using some other information received from the browser to determine that it is a mobile device!
Dude, you read my mind, I was just about to post here after spending an hour or so messing around trying to stop the damn mobile view from showing!
Even if you change the setting in about:debug, going to www.google.com still gives me the stupid mobile version. This never happened on my Desire either! I think the Sensation is just bugged and changing the UAString doesn't actually do anything.
Im sure changing the User agent does do something, as it did stop some sites. Also if you got to http://whatsmyuseragent.com/ then change the useragent and go back, you can see the changes! I have changed my useragent to exactly the one that my chrome desktop browser sends, and still some websites dont work. There must be something else determining which site is shown.
Just out of interest, what is your Chrome UA string that you've used? Does it stop www.google.com from defaulting to Mobile view?
My User agent string is set as
Mozilla/5.0 Windows NT 6.0 AppleWebKit/535.1 KHTML, like Gecko Chrome/14.0.835.202 Safari/535.1
But it doesnt sort out google.com!
I try to see www.bet365.com and others in IE desktop Mode or Metro mode and he always open the mobile version of the web pages.
I would like to see the full web pages like happens in Facebook. Any setting for desable the mobile version detection?
Thanks
chaves said:
I try to see www.bet365.com and others in IE desktop Mode or Metro mode and he always open the mobile version of the web pages.
I would like to see the full web pages like happens in Facebook. Any setting for desable the mobile version detection?
Thanks
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Very strange that bet365 is treating IE10 as a mobile device, but maybe it's redirecting to mobile based on the ARM CPU.
There is a fix. Open the page in desktop IE10, open F12 Developer Tools, then from the 'Tools' menu select 'Change user agent string' and 'Internet Explorer 9'.
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Very strange that bet365 is treating IE10 as a mobile device, but maybe it's redirecting to mobile based on the ARM CPU.
There is a fix. Open the page in desktop IE10, open F12 Developer Tools, then from the 'Tools' menu select 'Change user agent string' and 'Internet Explorer 9'.
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Thank you for the answer!
I made that, and it works, but... there´s always a "but"
Changing the user agent, scroll with fingers stops working, it´s only possible using the trackpad! Same if i choose other user agent like chrome or firefox.
If you know other work around, please let me know!
Thanks again!
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
Menergy said:
Is there a way to go past the website's UA checks and always load their desktop versions instead of mobile? Asking because I already set in the preferences of all my phone browsers to always load the full desktop version and still, many websites somehow know I'm using a mobile device and force the mobile version.
Anyone found solution for Dolphin or Boat browsers? I've read about "about:debug" and "about:useragent" showing extra UA menu elements which in my case does nothing (android 6). I was also unable to find an user agent switching app that could always force Desktop parameters to the websites.
Even if there's no immefiate solution, I would like to know the principle websites choose which version to load irrespective to browser settings. Is it network/data/service provider settings, or specific browser/resolution signature? Thanks a lot for any ideas.
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If the problem is website's UA check, often you can choose an AdWay or something similar, on my phone i'm surprised to see as "auto check" some pop up, check and box.
But for what never stop working, that's need update every day...
There isn't much you can do in this case.
Sometimes in some browsers you've an option with whitelist or other but I do believe they can be related to the mobile display or desktop of a particular site.
Maybe there is an add-on xposed or plugin that I don't know
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
Menergy said:
My problem is that some websites force the mobile version no matter what, as well as lack on services that I need in there, and you couldn't circumvent that in any way.
Yesterday I had to verify an email address and tried with all the browsers I have on my phone (like 5 different). They were all set to display the desktop version and all were forced into the mobile. But on the mobile you couldn't verify the link, probably on purpose (security if on mobile device), and I would not have access to laptop/desktop browser by the evening. The same is with many other features/missing services on forced mobile websites so I want to find a way to have full functionality when on the go.
Does AdWay have options for influencing data the browser notifies to the websites? Anything similar to Mozilla-code based Random Agent Spoofer browser add-on where you can basically force the browser to inject any incorrect data and prevent other data leaking while browsing? Any special cookie mechanisms inherent to mobile browsers only?
Alternatively, can I access browser settings with something like about:config/debug or else? Dolphin, Boat, others? I am sure the browser notifies the correct desktop user agent, there's something else, probably very simple, that tells websites the connection is from a portable device...
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I use "user agent switcher" for chrome and it always works. It requires root though.
Can you provide an example of a website that refuses to show the desktop version?
And additionally, your build.prop contains your device's information. The browser might be transmitting that information to the website.
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
Menergy said:
Thank you, the build.prop info was very helpful. I am not rooted yet as I've got my new phone just less than a month ago so still exploring, but can't really find the file, even among the hidden files on the internal memory. I will explore more and see how it goes.
I am in the UK so for example one of the websites that always loads the limited mobile instead of desktop version is the one of my service provider, EE, ee. co. uk (apologies for the intervals, I'm otherwise not allowed to post it). This mobile version is too basic and 60% of what you could do on a desktop version is cut. I've been on Three Mobile and sometimes I could get their full website working, sometimes not. Other websites are let's say bbc. co. uk and other media/news/bank websites that know, no matter browser settings, you are accessing them from a portable device.
Unfortunately I do not trust Google and any of their products so avoid voluntarily and (un)intentionally handing any personal data over to them. I would have used Mozilla for Android if it was close to the functionality Boat and Dolphin browsers provide. I even contacted the Dolphin team having previously assisted them but have got no feedback whatsoever. There must be a way for editing these unusual browser settings, but as pointed out above, I suspect it has something to do will submitting device ID info from within system folders. Thus probably only browser developers could tell us how the problem could be circumvented (and hopefully at least for now, with no root).
Or the developers of addons such as the Random Agent Spoofer or the user agent switchers.
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The build.prop is a text file which should be located in system/ folder. And you usually can't view the contents of that folder without root, so that's why you haven't been able to find it.
I visited ee.co.uk using chrome, and I was able to switch between the mobile and desktop version of the site without any issues, even without using the UA changing app. All I did was select "request desktop site" from the side menu.
I tried using CM's stock browser though, and just like you experienced, the same website refused to load in desktop mode. I even went as far as changing the UA in its settings menu and even that didn't work.
So all that you wrote in the last two paragraphs have been confirmed.
Right now, it's either chrome or root until the devs fix/properly implement their UA changing feature.
I was testing other browsers the whole morning here and finally reluctantly tried Firefox. Somehow its Android version never impressed me or was too buggy for me when tested before. Probably because just before going for it I tried Pale Moon and have seen that I can readily edit just about everything via about:config. The Pale Moon's UI settings menu was however completely missing (probably a bug), along with no other controls, so I had to skip it.
So I am glad to report that using Firefox's "Request desktop website" option I finally was able to load desktop versions of websites that were forcing me to always have their mobile one instead. This means that Firefix for now becomes my main browser. As suggested by you, I tried first with Chrome but with no success (using its internal user agent options). There were a few Chrome user agent switchers in the market but although some of them did not explicitly require root, upon starting them they did so I had to uninstall them.
My question yet remains, what exactly tells websites not to load full version, even if browser's user agent reports the correct values. I will leave this to me as I go deeper into this. Glad to have got what I wanted
Thanks a lot for all your help.
Just to add for all having my problem and using Firefox for Android.
By default Firefox will always load the mobile website version and every time you will need to tick "Request desktop site" if you dislike it. As I do, there is an addon called "Desktop by Default" that will always keep the tick on for you. You may instead try creating a new string called "general.useragent.override" adding a desktop OS signature but it won't work (tested by me) for exactly the same websites I had issues with above, so do use the addon instead. It will however work for all other websites that don't have issues with Desktop mode on other browsers.
There is another string that I disabled also called general.useragent.site_specific_overrides.
Tweaking with the Chrome for Android settings seems to require root so Firefox in my case is a God bless. I hope this is helpful to all others with my issue...