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Question about CWM before ICS update

I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!

theremix said:
I just rooted my TF101 using ViperMod but now I'm not sure whether I should install CWM recovery or not if I want to install further OTAs. I have read some threads but couldn't come up with a clear answer. I read somewhere that only stock recovery can receive OTA updates but also read that CWM can receive them too. If I can't install CWM then what ROMs can I install with stock recovery? What's the best way to go if I want to be ready for the ICS? Thanks!!
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Technically you'll still receive the OTA update you just can't apply it if you have CWM or a custom ROM installed.
You can't install custom ROM without CWM (if you have an older SBK tablet you can use NVFlash with a compatible ROM).

So I shouldn't install cwm until the ICS drops right?
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.

CalvinH said:
If you want to update to ICS via OTA don't instal CWM.
As you have been told, you will get the OTA message but the update will fail.
So you have two choices (or three):
* Keep stock recovery and update to ICS when the OTA update is available
* Install CWM and update to ICS as soon as a DEV publishes an ICS ROM
* Install CWM and remove it as soon as you know the OTA is due (pretty lame, but you could do it).
Regards.
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Thanks, I think I'll just wait for the OTA as I want to update as soon as ICS drops in.
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I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).

Woodrube said:
I have a question about removing CWR. Actually 2.
1. Can't we just uninstall and wipe data with Titanium since it was installed as an .apk- from Gnufabio? (pretty sure this won't work but thought I would throw it out there anyways). Where is the recovery located on a tablet (what folders) Same as in phones?
2. Can we just flash the stock recovery by itself and not reset back to .13 or younger? If I am running stock ROM, it seems that I should be able to just reflash the stock recovery and replace it w/o changing the ROM or factory reset.
I have no problem doing it the long way but if it doesn't need to be done and we can replace the CWR with stock and not tamper with the ROM, it seems logical.
Clearly I just got the tab recently and have been reading and reading but they seem so much different than the way phones work. I am very comfortable flashing ROMs/Kernels/Mods on phones, but just a little intimidated with the tablet (for now).
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1- The RecoveryInstaller app only help to flash the recovery image so no you can just delete it.
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot

baseballfanz said:
2- You can flash a stock recovery image via CWM. You can get a repacked version here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154947&highlight=unroot
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I figured that would be the case with the executable part of the apk.
I read that thread but wasn't sure if only the stock recovery by itself could be flashed w/o the prepacked ROM.

Rooted stock rom ICS 4.0.4 but...

Let's say I want to flash a rom and made a backup thru CWM of my stock rom will I be able to keep root if I flash it back to the stock rom ?
II'm doing this cause I care most about no auto brightness issue than the actual advantage to go with a custom rom.
Thanks

Why don't you just root your stock ROM then? You need to be rooted to flash CWM recovery anyways..

rener78 said:
Let's say I want to flash a rom and made a backup thru CWM of my stock rom will I be able to keep root if I flash it back to the stock rom ?
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If your ROM is already rooted, and you're restoring it from CWM, yes. If you're using fastboot to re-flash the stock ROM, no, you'll have to re-root it.
I'm kind of confused about what you're asking, though. Can you give more specific details? Are you going to flash a different ROM and try to flash the stock ROM, or parts of it, on top of the new ROM? I wouldn't do that unless you're very sure of what you're doing.

Flashing different roms, whats the deal???

Ok so i've finally decided im ready to unlock and flash. My question is this: whats the deal with returning to stock and redoing everything on certain roms? Can anyone explain to me the variables here?
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once you have your device rooted and have a recovery installed, make a nandroid back up your stock rom, flash whatever rom you want, then if you need to go back to stock rom, just flash the nandroid back up you made. If you want to go 100%, then you will have to find the stock recovery image, and flash that over your custom recovery as well, then just use OTA Rootkeeper... and temp unroot your phone... and viola, your 100% stock again.... but if you plan to go back to 100% stock then DO NOT UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER!! there is no way to lock it again once you unlock it.

I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom

KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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If you flash a stock ROM using CWM you will lose all data on your device, including any backups you made using CWM. So be sure to backup those files to your PC (they're located in the clockworkmod/backup folder of your internal storage) before flashing the stock Asus ROM.
I've been changing my ROM's throughout the day and have basically memorized the process of flashing CWM, root, and ROM's by now

KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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TWRP can flash stock. I've done it.
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Ive read about problems reflashing ROMs when youre on the CM or AOKP. Need to return to stock, then flash other ROMs, dunno why exactly. So is it enough just to restore my stock nand backup or do I need to do something differently? :good:

This is exactly what im talking about. What are the rules when coming from cyan to a stock flavor?
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So lets say right now im ready to unlock and root. I would want to unlock the device, then root, then flash CWM (not twrp) so i could still retrain (and boot in to without reinstalling) my original rom? Because i still want to titanium my apps.
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not sure if I understand your question right, but yeah you can use your stock rom when you root or flash cwm. Untill you wont wipe anything within CWM, theres no reason you coulndt use it. But dont forget to do backup of your stock mate.

I think part of the confusion is defining what "stock" means, and I've got two different views on it over the past few days:
COMPLETE STOCK means flashing ASUS' original stock firmware, which completely wipes out everything on your tablet (including your nandroid backups) and CWM and takes you back to a fully stock tablet (except it will still have unlocked bootloader). From here, if you want to install ROM's like CleanROM or Hydro you have to re-flash CWM each time, then flash the appropriate ROM.
MODIFIED STOCK would be making a nandroid backup of your stock settings as soon as you flash the stock ROM, install CWM, then back it up and you can revert to it accordingly. I don't know if this would break things when you tried to flash Clean/Hydro and so maybe someone can clarify.
I wanted to try both hydro and cleanrom so I spent many hours yesterday flashing between stock/modified stock. Its kind of a pain, but all part of the learning process.
And one thing I want to note both for myself and for anyone else: if you flash stock without removing CWM it'll give you the broken bootloader logo (android on his back w/ exclamation point), and my solution has just been to do a 'wipe data' from the fastboot menu and the stock will work fine. What I mean by this is I've done this at least three times, where I flash STOCK from within CWM and when I try to boot into recovery, I'll get that android. That's because STOCK completely erases everything including CWM so in order to restore the normal operating procedure, you just need to 'wipe data' from within the tablet.
Hope my understanding of these situations is correct, if not anyone can feel free to correct me

People like to experiment with their tablet, they get easily bored with the same thing.
So they go back to stock and flash another rom like Hydro which is stock based because when you flash CM or AOKP it won't let you just flash to Hydro.

KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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NOT TRUE!
It should be noted that TWRP is now more functional than CWM. TWRP can now flash stock ROMs just fine. It can now restore complete nandroids, including /boot, and it can now flash from and store to the external SD card. It was just recently updated for this, which is why all the information until now has said to use CWM to flash the stock ROM. So, go ahead and use TWRP. It's perfect now.

Custom Rom After Jellybean?

Sorry if this has already been answered, but I couldn't find anything
I have rooted my tf300t, but not unlocked. I know that I can still unlock after the JB update, but is it still possible to install custom recoveries and roms? I don't want to update if there's a risk that I'll be stuck with it.

There is Hydro which is a stock based rom and it just basically makes it feel faster.

adrhodes said:
There is Hydro which is a stock based rom and it just basically makes it feel faster.
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I realise that custom roms are available, but does the install process still work after updating to jellybean?

you have to flash the old stockrom first. This will install the old bootloader and Recovery. Than flash the ICS Recovery and you are good to go on all the old Customs.

pukeboy said:
Sorry if this has already been answered, but I couldn't find anything
I have rooted my tf300t, but not unlocked. I know that I can still unlock after the JB update, but is it still possible to install custom recoveries and roms? I don't want to update if there's a risk that I'll be stuck with it.
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If you have upgraded to jb then yes you can install recoveries and Roms but you want to be sure to install those that match jb. For example, if you want to flash cwm recovery, be sure to flash v6.0.1.2, not v5. If you try to install v5, you might brick your tablet. When you access a ROM or recovery post in the Dev section, it should say which it was designed for.
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Kernel question

I recently had to get a replacement phone sent to me from verizon. I'm on 4.4.4 I bought and used sunshine for unlock and s-off. I have flashed twrp and super su for root. I have not touched the kernel so I am still on stock kernel which has write protection. There are kernels out that have this disabled. What I'm trying to find information on is how do I flash one of these. I can't seem to find info on this. I got the original m8 on launch day and have done this months ago and I remember having to put certain things on the SD card and renaming them to something along the lines of (0BP6.img).
Is this correct. I also remember having to adb certain things to the phone. I'm just trying to avoid a brick. Any help is appreciated

Preston2291 said:
I recently had to get a replacement phone sent to me from verizon. I'm on 4.4.4 I bought and used sunshine for unlock and s-off. I have flashed twrp and super su for root. I have not touched the kernel so I am still on stock kernel which has write protection. There are kernels out that have this disabled. What I'm trying to find information on is how do I flash one of these. I can't seem to find info on this. I got the original m8 on launch day and have done this months ago and I remember having to put certain things on the SD card and renaming them to something along the lines of (0BP6.img).
Is this correct. I also remember having to adb certain things to the phone. I'm just trying to avoid a brick. Any help is appreciated
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Most kernels r flashed in recovery.

Tigerstown said:
Most kernels r flashed in recovery.
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So I should just be able to download a sense 4.4.4 kernel and flash in recovery then I can nandroid backup and then start flashing custom roms? I just didn't know if I was able to flash one in recovery coming from stock which is write protected without problems.

Preston2291 said:
So I should just be able to download a sense 4.4.4 kernel and flash in recovery then I can nandroid backup and then start flashing custom roms? I just didn't know if I was able to flash one in recovery coming from stock which is write protected without problems.
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have you tried to flash a ROM already? Cause I have been with HTC sense way way back. An I never have had this issue...I just pick a stock ROM an flash it... But you could fast boot a stock insecure boot using fast boot I guess if that's what you want to do.

Tigerstown said:
have you tried to flash a ROM already? Cause I have been with HTC sense way way back. An I never have had this issue...I just pick a stock ROM an flash it... But you could fast boot a stock insecure boot using fast boot I guess if that's what you want to do.
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I haven't tried to flash a stock rom no because I wasn't sure. And I don't want to wipe system and data with a write protected kernel because I'll be screwed. Or do you mean dirty flash a stock rom with the insecure kernel? I just don't want to not have write protection removed and then wipe and soft brick because I can't write to the system with a new rom

Preston2291 said:
I haven't tried to flash a stock rom no because I wasn't sure. And I don't want to wipe system and data with a write protected kernel because I'll be screwed. Or do you mean dirty flash a stock rom with the insecure kernel? I just don't want to not have write protection removed and then wipe and soft brick
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If you r s-off unlocked an flashed twrp then flashed SuperSU zip. Myself I just back a backup now verify backup is there an flash a ROM...or you could flash a stock insecure kernel 1st if you want to be extra safe.

Tigerstown said:
If you r s-off unlocked an flashed twrp then flashed SuperSU zip. Myself I just back a backup now verify backup is there an flash a ROM...or you could flash a stock insecure kernel 1st if you want to be extra safe.
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Just flashed a stock insecure kernel. How is a way to test if I have write access?

Preston2291 said:
Just flashed a stock insecure kernel. How is a way to test if I have write access?
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Don't know. Never check has I have never had a issue ever once an have own 7+ different HTC devices.

Tigerstown said:
Don't know. Never check has I have never had a issue ever once an have own 7+ different HTC devices.
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Thing is I bricked my last m8 because I flashed a stock recovery and rom to get the 4.4.4 update. And I wiped system and data to re install a rom and couldn't write to system and the phone wouldn't do anything but sit at the HTC screen because it was bricked. That's why I'm concerned with the kernel.

Preston2291 said:
Thing is I bricked my last m8 because I flashed a stock recovery and rom to get the 4.4.4 update. And I wiped system and data to re install a rom and couldn't write to system and the phone wouldn't do anything but sit at the HTC screen because it was bricked. That's why I'm concerned with the kernel.
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You should be able to just flash pretty much any sense based rom and have what you want. Write protection is removed in all of them, or, at least in all the ones I've tried.
That said, if you've already flashed a kernel that has write protection removed, you should be able to check it by just copying any file to the system folder. A text file, picture, anything. Then reboot the phone and check to see if the file you copied to the system folder is still there. If so, you're good to go. If not, write protection is still being enforced.