Ok so i've finally decided im ready to unlock and flash. My question is this: whats the deal with returning to stock and redoing everything on certain roms? Can anyone explain to me the variables here?
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once you have your device rooted and have a recovery installed, make a nandroid back up your stock rom, flash whatever rom you want, then if you need to go back to stock rom, just flash the nandroid back up you made. If you want to go 100%, then you will have to find the stock recovery image, and flash that over your custom recovery as well, then just use OTA Rootkeeper... and temp unroot your phone... and viola, your 100% stock again.... but if you plan to go back to 100% stock then DO NOT UNLOCK YOUR BOOTLOADER!! there is no way to lock it again once you unlock it.
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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If you flash a stock ROM using CWM you will lose all data on your device, including any backups you made using CWM. So be sure to backup those files to your PC (they're located in the clockworkmod/backup folder of your internal storage) before flashing the stock Asus ROM.
I've been changing my ROM's throughout the day and have basically memorized the process of flashing CWM, root, and ROM's by now
KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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TWRP can flash stock. I've done it.
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Ive read about problems reflashing ROMs when youre on the CM or AOKP. Need to return to stock, then flash other ROMs, dunno why exactly. So is it enough just to restore my stock nand backup or do I need to do something differently? :good:
This is exactly what im talking about. What are the rules when coming from cyan to a stock flavor?
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So lets say right now im ready to unlock and root. I would want to unlock the device, then root, then flash CWM (not twrp) so i could still retrain (and boot in to without reinstalling) my original rom? Because i still want to titanium my apps.
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not sure if I understand your question right, but yeah you can use your stock rom when you root or flash cwm. Untill you wont wipe anything within CWM, theres no reason you coulndt use it. But dont forget to do backup of your stock mate.
I think part of the confusion is defining what "stock" means, and I've got two different views on it over the past few days:
COMPLETE STOCK means flashing ASUS' original stock firmware, which completely wipes out everything on your tablet (including your nandroid backups) and CWM and takes you back to a fully stock tablet (except it will still have unlocked bootloader). From here, if you want to install ROM's like CleanROM or Hydro you have to re-flash CWM each time, then flash the appropriate ROM.
MODIFIED STOCK would be making a nandroid backup of your stock settings as soon as you flash the stock ROM, install CWM, then back it up and you can revert to it accordingly. I don't know if this would break things when you tried to flash Clean/Hydro and so maybe someone can clarify.
I wanted to try both hydro and cleanrom so I spent many hours yesterday flashing between stock/modified stock. Its kind of a pain, but all part of the learning process.
And one thing I want to note both for myself and for anyone else: if you flash stock without removing CWM it'll give you the broken bootloader logo (android on his back w/ exclamation point), and my solution has just been to do a 'wipe data' from the fastboot menu and the stock will work fine. What I mean by this is I've done this at least three times, where I flash STOCK from within CWM and when I try to boot into recovery, I'll get that android. That's because STOCK completely erases everything including CWM so in order to restore the normal operating procedure, you just need to 'wipe data' from within the tablet.
Hope my understanding of these situations is correct, if not anyone can feel free to correct me
People like to experiment with their tablet, they get easily bored with the same thing.
So they go back to stock and flash another rom like Hydro which is stock based because when you flash CM or AOKP it won't let you just flash to Hydro.
KAD79 said:
I think it's worth while to note
currently the only custom recovery that is able to flash stock is CWM
TWRP is not able to flash a stock rom
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NOT TRUE!
It should be noted that TWRP is now more functional than CWM. TWRP can now flash stock ROMs just fine. It can now restore complete nandroids, including /boot, and it can now flash from and store to the external SD card. It was just recently updated for this, which is why all the information until now has said to use CWM to flash the stock ROM. So, go ahead and use TWRP. It's perfect now.
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So like most of us here I enjoy testing out the custom ROMs, but also like to go back to stock when I`m done testing.
Can NVFLASH be used to (without root, I am B40 anyway) make a FULL backup of system, boot, recovery, so once I am done playing with a custom ROM I can get back to exactly where I am now with my stock ROM ?
If that is possible, is there a .bat file I can stick in the NVFLASH folder to do this? Or any other way ?
Reason for this is to avoid having to root or flash CWM, and to make sure 100% my OTA updates will work again when I flash back.
You might want to look into this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429. I've used this tool to get back to stock, with B60 series.
Yea I know how to get back to stock thanks, I want to make a full backup of my own stock ROM I am running now using NVFLASH to back it up
I know NVFLASH can flash back to stock
I want to use it the opposite way, and backup my current system, same as CWM can do
Try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
baseballfanz said:
Try this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129308
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Thanks, looks a little hit and miss as to if it works or not due to encrypting.
Several months ago I purchased a NS4G on Craigslist. I wanted to use it as an iPod touch without the data. It came rooted with SuperUser. The phone keeps prompting me to OTA to 2.3.7 (it's currently on 2.3.5) I used Gingerbreak to unroot and it worked, SuperUser is now gone. However, ClockWorkMod Recovery is still present and 2.3.7 won't install. The phone reboots, goes to about 1/3 of the progress bar, and then fails. I just want to get the phone on completely stock 2.3.7, in preparation for the coming 4.0 OTA.
Hopefully the solution doesn't involve flashing a custom ROM, I've never done that before. Thanks!!
No need to get it OTA, you can just flash the stock ICS ROM found in the stickies of the development forum of this phone. Of course follow instructions closely.
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But I'm selling it and need it to be completely 100% original and stock, which is what the buyer requested..
You want to use fastboot to flash a stock recovery. Peter Alfonso has them all listed on his site.
Thanks. I'm really not familiar with fastboot, and is there any way you could give me a link with instructions or the files I need? My build number is GRJ90.
And if there's anyway for me to avoid a rooted stock ROM, that'd be great. Just pure stock 2.3.7.
The stock image on Rom manager has the recovery bootloader included.
Flash a stock gb rom from cwm. You will find a list of them in either general or android development threads, not sure which. Completely stock, unrooted and as far as I remember the stock recovery is included. If not then the person will never know anyway as if someone doesn't want any non stock features then they won't know how to get to recovery anyway.
Actually I don't think they have stock recovery. Just flash the stock rom and then fastboot flash the stock recovery like was mentioned above. All you need to type is:
Fastboot flash recovery xxxxx.img
Xxxxx.img is the name of the image file you download.
Don't cheat the buyer...Tell him exactly what he's buying...And that you returned thedevice back to stock again.It's just not worth it.
Hi,
I have followed everything in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837863
I have backups nandroid ready and wasn't too sure, if I dont like this build then i could restore back to stock using CWM? or Odin.
I felt that I need to wait for reply to comfirm before flashing this cyanogenMOD 10.
Thanks!
LeonKnight12 said:
Hi,
I have followed everything in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837863
I have backups nandroid ready and wasn't too sure, if I dont like this build then i could restore back to stock using CWM? or Odin.
I felt that I need to wait for reply to comfirm before flashing this cyanogenMOD 10.
Thanks!
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IF my memory serves me right, with an unlocked bootloader, you can recover to a TW rom but I think its needs to either have the kernel built into it OR you need to somehow flash to a TW kernel. I say this because I think that if your kernel is still an AOSP one, then the device will not boot up.
some roms already come with a kernel for their rom so I think in most cases, with CWM 6.0.1.x, you could restore a TW nandroid.
If you want to restore a backup of a TouchWiz rom you have then just use the EZ Recovery app to flash the hybrid (CWM/Kexec) recovery...reboot to recovery and restore your nandroid. Simple process!
Once the Dev's building TW roms start using the non-kexec flashing method then you will be able to restore using the normal CWM recovery. Just like you said, you can also use ODIN to restore to stock but it's a pain because you have to root all over again. Just know you have a few options.
Ok thanks everyone!
So good
Fwiw... I've been switching back and forth between Synergy and CM for a couple days now (flashing multiple times) and cwm touch works for synergy but u need new cwm for CM10.
Hope this helps.
Hi!
I just bought Nexus S i9023 and don't know how to start flashing roms, kernels etc. I was reading about that I must unlock bootloader first, flash cwm recovery and then i can finally flashing roms. Is it right? I have few questions about this device, here they are:
1. How are kernels flash? Is it flashing by recovery like update.zip?
2. I have Gingerbread currently, but I want to update to JB, can I first off apply the update in recovery or I have to update to ICS first? Can you provide me a link to updates?
3. http://android.clients.google.com/packages/ota/google_crespo/9ZGgDXDi.zip this is JellyBean for i9023, right?
4. What are the kernel and rom combo most stable and fast?
5. Internal memory is working like a SD card, so if I will make a nandroid backup, it will not erase my data while doing full wipe ... ?
6. I'm currently using my private MIUI GB on my Xperia X8, which was ported from SGS. Is there any multilanguage MIUI GB rom anywhere?
7. Which is the flashing order? Kernels first? Or roms?
Thanks for replies, guys!
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Yes, you must unlock the bootloader, which will wipe EVERYTHING on your phone before you can flash your desired recovery and root. Kernels are flashed through recovery, after a ROM is flashed, otherwise it will generally be overwritten if a new ROM is flashed. No need to go to ICS to get to jb if you are flashing a full ROM. The memory referred to as internal is not what is used as an SD card. The SD/USB memory is the external memory. A nandroid doesn't back this up.
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p1gp3n said:
Yes, you must unlock the bootloader, which will wipe EVERYTHING on your phone before you can flash your desired recovery and root. Kernels are flashed through recovery, after a ROM is flashed, otherwise it will generally be overwritten if a new ROM is flashed. No need to go to ICS to get to jb if you are flashing a full ROM. The memory referred to as internal is not what is used as an SD card. The SD/USB memory is the external memory. A nandroid doesn't back this up.
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I just picked up a secondhand i9020T. It's running stock jelly bean, but it looks like the previous owner had some custom ROMs installed. The bootloader is unlocked and clockwork mod recovery is installed. I don't seem to have root access. Can I just flush a full ROM, like CM10 through clockwork even though I don't have root access? Will doing that provide root in CM10, or is that going to cause a problem. Thanks.
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I just picked up a secondhand i9020T. It's running stock jelly bean, but it looks like the previous owner had some custom ROMs installed. The bootloader is unlocked and clockwork mod recovery is installed. I don't seem to have root access. Can I just flush a full ROM, like CM10 through clockwork even though I don't have root access? Will doing that provide root in CM10, or is that going to cause a problem. Thanks.
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You might could get by just flashing cm10 and gapps, but I would start by flashing superuser, or super su for jb.
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Yo, thanks, I successfully unlocked my bootloader and flashed cwm, then installed fresh miui jb and gapps. I searching for good kernel for daily usage, with good performance, can you recommend me any?
cheers
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You might could get by just flashing cm10 and gapps, but I would start by flashing superuser, or super su for jb.
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So i'm a little confused. The stock rom as of now has the superuser app, but when I open something that tried to pull root access (titanium backup or root checker for example) the superuser app does not come up, and root access is not available. Thoughts? When I flashed ROMs on my old transform, root seemed to travel with the kernel - but I just want to make sure I can flash a rooted ROM+kernel through recovery without having root access. Sorry if these questions are a bit naive - I'm trying to work through the other guides and Q+A to try to figure this out, but I'm still not clear. Also, sorry for sort of hijacking your thread, but the topic seemed like a good fit. Thanks in advance for all help.
*Edit - Fixed root access in stock rom by flashing new SU app through CWM from link posted in second post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1918490&highlight=have+clockworkmod+but+no+root
Last question, if I flashed JellyBean based rom, can I flash Gingerbread based by following the steps like formatting system etc. in recovery previously?
The su app from the play store is just an app. as you found, flashing the su zip is the only way to actually get the su access.
Anytime you flash a new rom, it is highly recommended that you perform a full wipe, after making a nandroid, of course. The steps I follow are factory reset/data wipe (this will also take care of cache & dalvic cache since they are on the data partition) then go to mind and storage to format /system & /boot.
If you haven't already I suggest using titanium backup & the pro key if you can. I have it set to automatically backup everything every 2 days, and I also make a new one each time I get ready to flash anything. Don't restore any system apps per data off you change roms though. The only reason I backup the system stuff is so I can restore my texts & call log with the proper time stamps.
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Hi, I'm searched the forums and google high and low for an answer but can't seem to find a definitive one.
1. My gf's tf300t is currently on WW_epad-user-10.4.2.17, the bootloader was already unlocked when she bought it (used) and it's running twrp recovery but isn't rooted. Can I flash WW_epad-user-10.4.2.20.zip (which has the META-INF folder and blob inside it) through twrp recovery?
2. Am I correct in assuming this won't relock the bootloader and will replace the recovery with a stock version?
3. Also would this wipe anything because I'm hoping for a no-wipe scenario. Thanks.
Yes you can flash it. Bad news is you will lose custom recovery and you will lose all data.
Why don't you just install a custom stock rom?
Replaces kernel to stock as well I believe
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sbdags said:
Yes you can flash it. Bad news is you will lose custom recovery and you will lose all data.
Why don't you just install a custom stock rom?
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Thanks, is there any way to flash it without wiping data? Was hoping to keep things simple by staying stock but might try and find a custom no wipe rom if that's the case
viva.fidel said:
Thanks, is there any way to flash it without wiping data? Was hoping to keep things simple by staying stock but might try and find a custom no wipe rom if that's the case
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CROMI is stock based and can be flashed over stock without a wipe There are also stock ROMS from Surdu you can flash as well.
No way of flashing ASUS Stock without losing stuff.