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As far as getting OTA updates, is there any difference between being on T-Mobile's phone network or on random wi-fi link? Does it make any difference if the sim card is in the phone or not?
I don't have reception at all at home so the phones are just on wifi and I often only spend a few hours a week on T-Mobile's network. So at that rate I may never get the OTA update. And lately my SIM card is in my spare rooted G2x which I've been using to try out ROMs.
Does anyone have any idea how phones are selected for updating? Random based on IMEI number? Phone number? SIM card? Date phone was purchased? Date the phone was manufactured? Does account type matter? Prepaid vs contract etc.?? The lack of info about this is infuriating. Same as the new market, weeks later, still no new market on my stock phone (not side loading anything on that phone).
The fact that Google has no direct support for Android at all and they are leaving support completely to grossly incompetent companies like LG and T-Mobile bodes very poorly in my estimation. Will this have me go to a locked down phone like iPhone or WM7 phones? No. But it leads me hoping they might open up WebOS more and get it on some better hardware.
Basically, is there anything I can do to influence the situation, or is it completely random? Does checking more often help, or will my phone only get the update once Google/LG/T-Mobile determine my phone will get it???
No one has any idea? Not even wild, inaccurate speculation??
I am interrested in knowing this as well! I spend most of the day on wifi calling either at work or at home...
I recently spoke to tech support he told me he would recommend updating thru the lg update tool because its a secure connection.
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I heard they use IMEIs, but I don't think the IMEIs are necessarily in order of oldest to newest. One of my buddies who bought his nexus one from google a couple months after I did would always get OTAs before I did.
And we both got OTAs over wifi. I wouldn't know if your sim card needs to be in there, but I would definitely leave it in and just run the *#*#checkin#*#* command just in case.
But nonetheless, to anybody:
Please use alogcat while downloading the OTA.
Once done, just upload the whole logcat so that we can find the URL for the OTA.
Ha! Strangely, I got my OTA GB today. While on cellular, not wifi. Go figure.
Still waitin' on the new market......
Sorry, I wish I had known about the logcat thing. I may flash stock 2.2 onto my spare rooted g2x and wait to see when it gets the OTA, I want nothing to do with the LG updater app, but I might loose patience, we'll see....
Oh, and the *#*#checkin#*#* command??? Has this been tested to work on the G2x? Is that regarded as useful on Android phones in general? Or certain brands, like just HTCs? Search isn't showing too much info on that.
Ha! Strangely, I got my OTA GB today. While on cellular, not wifi. Go figure.
Still waitin' on the new market......
Sorry, I wish I had known about the logcat thing. I may flash stock 2.2 onto my spare rooted g2x and wait to see when it gets the OTA, I want nothing to do with the LG updater app, but I might loose patience, we'll see....
Oh, and the *#*#checkin#*#* command??? Has this been tested to work on the G2x? Is that regarded as useful on Android phones in general? Or certain brands, like just HTCs? Search isn't showing too much info on that.
I want to return to stock on my tmobile branded HTC sensation 4G. I have flashed the radio, eng s off, and CSL recovery.
I am going to give them a shot at fixing my reception issues before I destroy the phone and buy something else.
Did you have reception problems before flashing your radio or after? I think you should be fine with having a rom since HTC released their bootloader if its a big deal and your really worried just flash a stock rom on that bad boy and call it a day. Just my 2 cents new to the site so hopefully a vet will chime in here for help
Though I've never returned to stock on my phone, you just need to download one of the TMOUS RUUs in this thread:
[ROM][11 May] Shipped Pyramid ROM Collection
There are two listed for TMOUS (there was only one when last I checked the thread), but it supposedly doesn't matter which one you pick according to one of the posts later on in the thread.
They're big old files, but just run the .EXE and it ought to walk you through every necessary step to proceed properly.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
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Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
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If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
3. Have you noticed performance with reception after flashing a new ROM in comparison to stock?
I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
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If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
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Best 3 Stooges voice: "Sauwtainly"
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1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
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Yes, They (3 different phones) had this problem from day 1. Purchased from different places, at different times.
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2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
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Yes, but this isn't to what I refer. Holding the phone in a weird way to make the radios D/C isn't my problem so much as the design that allows this to happen in the first place is my problem. If I set the phone down, I get more bars than if I hold it normally. If this is the difference between 2-3 and 1-2, I can get dropped calls. My wifi range (max performance on) is 1/10th of my tablet and 1/20th of my laptop.
Even without touching the phone, just setting it on a wood counter top, it has less reception than my Motorola Cliq or Mytouch 4g, even when on the same tower. The cliq's reception does not change if I pick it up.
It's a bad design. If it is what HTC considers acceptable, then their phones aren't acceptable to me. It's cool. I'm not really that pissed about it. I just won't buy another. There are options.
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3. Have you noticed performance with reception after flashing a new ROM in comparison to stock?
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No, I've found no increase in reception with any change I've made. I've flashed 5 different radios other than stock with no changes in this department.
I have heard people have speed changes, but I was not tracking that so I can't really respond to that.
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I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
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Hope you have some help.
I've already tried a new back. It did nothing. There simply aren't enough towers in my area (all edge towers anyway) to support a phone with such poor reception. My Cliq had no issues with dropped calls in many of the areas I drive through, but this sensation just can't make it down my parents road without dropping.
The reason I ask is that I think that the Radio-Interface-Layer (RIL) files must be screwing with your radio. The RILs are like drivers for your radio. Different radios work with different RILs depending on your location. Long-in-short-version, Since the Sensation is fairly new, we are still exploring what works best and therefore your mileage may vary.
You may want to check this thread
And check out your RIL version. To check to see what RIL you have run getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl" in Terminal Emulator or adb shell and it will print out the RIL version.
T-Mo users should utilize HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ if not running 2.3.4 ROMS
2.3.4 ROMS require HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ. The matching radio versions are included in the thread posted above.
Hope this helps.
If that fails, tonight, TMOUS released an OTA update. See if you can get it through Settings-> About Phone -> HTC Software updates.
The changes for the T-Mo update can be found here
Hope this helps!
EDIT : I am assuming that you have a T-Mobile Sensation 4G and not an unbranded HTC Sensation and that you current location is in fact Myrtle Beach, SC. But then again, I hate assumptions and I really should have asked >.< **having a simpson 'doh' moment here**
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
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charlieb620 said:
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
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I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
chisleu said:
I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
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Could be trying to push the OTA update. Have you tried applying the OTA update?
iNFORMATION
I have personally reset my phone a couple of times using the tmo ruu and know that it sets your phone back to absolute stock, with no root and only being s-off. What this means is, if you wish to reroot then you are going to have to go back through the rooting process.
As far as the symbol that you are seeing when you try to do an ota update? The reason that you are seeing the phone with a red triangle is because your phone is being recognized as being rooted and once rooted htc will not allow an ota to your phone. You have to trick HTC into thinking that the phone is not rooted in order to get the ota, there is a thread in the forums for this. I do not remember which thread it is, however, I know that it works as I did it for all four of the HTC sensations that I own.
Okay, so quick question. If most of you are like me, you're the "phone guy" amongst your friends, so people are always asking me what they should get next or if I can help them in getting a good phone. So I've recently purchased a Sensation 4G here on the forums for one of those friends.
Since I don't want to play tech support for her anytime something goes wrong or have to root, titanium backup, etc etc every time there's a ROM out that I think is good, I put it on the shipped T-MOUS ROM and she can just get carrier updates. Everything is stock now, including recover and CID so I believe she'll get OTAs anytime T-Mobile puts them out.
However, I was thinking of giving her the stock ICS EU ROM. With a different CID (HTC__001?) she should receive EU OTAs, if I'm not mistaken. So the question is, what does she lose from not sticking with the T-MOUS ROM? WiFi calling?
I don't plan on rooting every ROM she gets and for her intents and purposes, she could probably use it bone stock and never know the difference. So if anyone has used the ICS ROM and is more familiar with the differences between the EU ROMs and US ROMs, please chime in.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
-J
Mms doesn't seem to work well on the EU roms on t mobile, and yeah she'll lose wifi calling
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Hi,
Sorry I've been away for a few weeks. I used to follow these threads like a hawk but I just got too busy with a huge dev project that ate my life like they can sometimes do... I read through threads about rooting 1.85 and unlocking...But I'm just confused. Sorry if this is redundant but...
I'm currently on 1.74 (if I'm reading that right, 1.73.502.1 710RD ... oddly enough I tried to update but it didn't let me... assuming that annoying message I kept declining for days was the 1.85 update).
Now I could go to check for updates again but I'm not. I figured I better ask around and see what the best course of action is.
I rooted a while ago when it was first available. So I have root.
So that's where I'm at. Now, my question is what's the best course of action?
Am I not able to update OTA to 1.85? Because I already rooted?
If I can check for updates and get the update, will it remove my root?
The last post in the 1.85 root thread says that they may have fixed their servers to avoid rooting 1.85??
Can I just now unlock my phone and flash ROMs? and not worry about carrier updates?
Is there anything I'm missing with the 1.85 update? That I couldn't get elsewhere?
I may or may not flash a ROM. I just don't want to be prevented from doing so if I want. HTC's Sense is not crashing like it used to, so I have no major need to flash a ROM yet... Improved performance would be the only reason. Maybe some development reasons as well.
Opinions?
Thanks much. I appreciate the help.
crap this isnt under general is it...
tom_m said:
crap this isnt under general is it...
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Haha no it's not. Also, it should be under Q&A.
You can go ahead and unlock and flash a custom rom. There's no need to get the OTA (which would most likely make you go through the rooting process again). Since your'e already rooted pre-1.85 you can flash a rom and guarantee that you'll retain your root status.
:laugh: Suffer the wrath of trolls.
Nah, I would download the 1.85 firmware update RUU [ran from your computer to install instead of OTA] and root [SOON] or root / unlock bootloader / install custom recovery then flash a new rom. First idea for a rom would be CleanROM. If all you want is root status, I would start there because It gives you basically a clean slate with bloatware removed and some minor tweaks I believe. Otherwise you could use CM9 or one of the few other roms that you may like. Personally I get the best performance out of KingCobra's rom. So idk :b
Gotta add my two sense for unlock and flashing Sick Sense. Very smooth.
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Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
my vote goes to scott standard clean rom! it has eqs, and a couple other little tweaks, that way u can add whatever u want!
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Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
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I have had the same issues with data and have had my phone swapped twice because of it and the 1.85 update nor any of the other radios has made any difference so I would just unlock the bootloader, flash a custom recovery and then rom of choice.
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Thanks guys, sorry again for misplacing this post.
I think I might browse the ROMs then. I didn't realize there were already so many options. I thought the 1.85 update may improve my issues with the signal being lost...I have to turn on airplane mode and off again to reconnect to their network despite the 4G (and sometimes LTE) icons showing up the whole time...But I'm just thinking I'm unfortunate in that my apartment has poor signal. Though my wife's iPhone works just fine...Oh well.
Thanks again. Time to check out some ROMs. I definitely don't want to grab some update and get locked out of it all.
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There is a new radio that should fix that stuff. Lemme find it. Here ya go. the latest ATT at the bottom. ATT 2.09 (0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
This should help wifi and mobile data. I also replaced a phone because of the mobile data issues. New phone did it also. Once i installed 1.88 ruu it was all fixed. You dont have to install the ruu now. Just pick your favorite custom rom and then flash this radio. The radio from 1.88 fixes it also but its from an asia ruu,. This new ATT radio is promising, i'd go with that.. Thank Designgears for that leak
Clean rom is good. Sick Sense as well as King Cobra. I'm rockin the new king cobra 1.2 and its pretty amazing. Any of these roms will be much much much better than stock. Tons of great mods, Speed and stability is great with all of them. You will think your CPU speed doubled..No lies! Install Titanium Backup (purchase it) and back up all of your apps. If you get the paid version, you can restore them all to your new rom 1 touch. The free version you have to do each app 1 at a time.
Edit. Of course you are rooted. But did you unlock the BL through HTC Dev also? If you mentioned it i must have missed it. If not you need to do that first.
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There is a new radio that should fix that stuff. Lemme find it. Here ya go. the latest ATT at the bottom. ATT 2.09 (0.17a.32.09.24_2_10.91.32.19L http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694012
This should help wifi and mobile data. I also replaced a phone because of the mobile data issues. New phone did it also. Once i installed 1.88 ruu it was all fixed. You dont have to install the ruu now. Just pick your favorite custom rom and then flash this radio. The radio from 1.88 fixes it also but its from an asia ruu,. This new ATT radio is promising, i'd go with that.. Thank Designgears for that leak
Clean rom is good. Sick Sense as well as King Cobra. I'm rockin the new king cobra 1.2 and its pretty amazing. Any of these roms will be much much much better than stock. Tons of great mods, Speed and stability is great with all of them. You will think your CPU speed doubled..No lies! Install Titanium Backup (purchase it) and back up all of your apps. If you get the paid version, you can restore them all to your new rom 1 touch. The free version you have to do each app 1 at a time.
Edit. Of course you are rooted. But did you unlock the BL through HTC Dev also? If you mentioned it i must have missed it. If not you need to do that first.
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I still have data issues even with the leaked radios.
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I still have data issues even with the leaked radios.
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What kind of issues? :crying: the same as before? they completely went away for me.:fingers-crossed: Have you seen anybody else still having issues with 1.88 or newer? Maybe you actually have bad hardware..coincidences happen.. I'd swap again if the new radios are working for most others. You paid to much for that phone for it to be poopoo.
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What kind of issues? :crying: the same as before? they completely went away for me.:fingers-crossed: Have you seen anybody else still having issues with 1.88 or newer? Maybe you actually have bad hardware..coincidences happen.. I'd swap again if the new radios are working for most others. You paid to much for that phone for it to be poopoo.
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Well, I've swapped it 3 times now. The first one I do not remember having that problem. Not saying it didn't but I can't remember. I returned it due to random reboots. Other than that the 1st one was flawless. Ever since then the phones I've received and have swapped have an issue where if I got into work where I have a hard time getting a signal the phone doesn't automatically re-connect when I go outside and have great signal. Even though it shows I have 4g and full bars if you look in the settings menu at mobile network it says turning on instead of connected and the only way to be able to make or receive phone calls or text messages is either toggle airplane mode or reboot the phone. Problem now is I'm past my thirty days so it would probably have to be done threw the warranty and not an in store swap.
Anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
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Anyone know if you can convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition ?
I hate verizon and their software, and it would be nice to not be running verizon software and convert to the dev edition and get updates and not have to wait for verizon to drag their feet like they always do.
I know I could go with a gpe rom but I have had bad luck with them, and its a lot easier to customize a sense rom and I do like sense 6, and I do believe the htc dev m8's run sense roms.
Anyone ?
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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Is your service through Verizon? Then no. You'll always have to "wait" on Verizon for the latest firmware, etc. You could always switch carriers and "wait" on them too. The grass is always greener on the other side. Verizon had the fastest m7 updates and had one slow m8 update. Even with the M7 people *****ed about how slow Verizon was (despite getting the major updates out before any other carrier). If you can't wait for updates, get the new Moto X.
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I know it can be done there were posts about it before on xda because the process they talked about using a back up from an actual dev edition m8 to do it.
Just because my phone operates on verizon does not mean that it has to run on verizon software, just as you can purchase a dev edition or gpe edition m8 and use it on verizon without verizon software and firmware.
Right now I can run a gpe google play edition rom and get rid of the verizon software and even be able to get rid of the verizon firmware.
Just like you can get a google nexus and run it on verizon service and totally without verizon software and verizon firmware, so yes the verizon m8 can be converted to a dev edition its just a matter of figuring out the process of doing it.
So for the record your wrong...
I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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I made a mistake in listing this I meant to say does anyone know how to convert a verizon m8 to a htc dev edition, as we all know it can be done its just about figuring out how to do it.
The phones are the same physically its all in the programming, so it can be done, my question is does anyone know how to acomplish this ????
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well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
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well... it if were so simple it would be done, wouldn't it? Maybe not?
We must not have anyone on Verizon who wants this enough to put the time in to get it done.
If it has been done on other M8's then yes it can most likely be done on the Verizon variant.
to accomplish it?
reverse engineer the GSM M8 conversion.
talk to someone who converted a GSM M8 to Dev Edition, maybe they will tell you all that is required and you can start working on trying to do it, maybe they won't - who knows til ya try?
but basically you see how they did it on GSM, and "port" it to the Verizon variant using our files.
The main thing (I think anyway, maybe it doesn't even matter lol) - just giving my 2 cents - it has to do with hboot, much to the liking how edits are made by hex to the hboot.img to remove the red text, it would possibly have to be edited to be allowed to be flashed on our Variant.
I really don't know though, and I am not sure you will get many answers in this specific area, simply because it's Verizon, and the only people going to find it are the ones wanting it also on Verizon.
So, I would possibly post in the thread of a conversion thread and see what they say, or PM the OP of that thread and see what he says.
I don't think this spot will get much more than speculation such as this post right here, because if I knew how to do it, I would do it for you.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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Yeah, I could have sworn I saw a topic on this in our forum when the phone came out like a couple months in. I just know there is no way I could ever figure it out I just know we have a lot of good devs cruising our forum so I figured maybe none of them ever really thought about it.
I"am just one of those people that has no choice but to use verizon even though I only get 1x data here which its on an Ohio state route highway, and at&t has very very weak signal cant even get any unless I go right out to the highway and then its edge most of the time, and no tmobile coverage for 30 miles.
I"am just trying to figure out a way to at least ditch their ( verizons ) software and firmware at least because theirs quite literally sucks and I cant really afford to go buy a dev edition so this was my only hope. I just hate verizon with a passion but I"am stuck with them.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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have you tried any of the GPE ROMS?
I know it isn't a GPE phone.. but the ROM might help? sorry I am not good with this subject, wish I could be of more help.
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I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
Roefastford said:
I have tried the gpe roms and for some reason I could never get them to work, but I did on my old m7. The main thing for me was I could never figure out how to do all the customizing on gpe roms, like I do with the viperone rom I guess they have me spoiled, like I need to have the back up button to work to kill your current app when you hold it down, then I like to run the at&t signal icons instead of the verizon ones, then I like to remove the battery icon completely and just run the stock sense percentage for the battery.
Then I like the sense camera but I could do without it. And I like having the harman kardon audio. I know most of these features are not easy to set up on a gpe even if you can at all.
I did like how the gpe with my old m7 would run smother and use less of the phones memory just to operate the operating system.
I thought about trying the team nocturnal gpe rom again, but it seems like all the gpe roms have not been updated since early august so its been well over a month since any had updates which that kind of makes me weary to think the support is not there maybe ?
I just know with viperone they normally dont go more than a month at most without updating their rom, but for viperone they base it all on international firmware so I think the rom runs best on gsm versions and that for our verizon m8's I dont think it works as well as I had an at&t m8 and I think the viperone worked much better on it than it does on our verizon m8, but I really dont have a lot of choices of roms that are easy to customize like viperone.
I use to love the elegancia rom for the m8 and wish v6maniac would start it back up but it looks like that is not going to happen since hes on team insert coin which that rom is ok but to me my only choice has been viperone since no elegancia.
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I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
andybones said:
I highly suggest you give Liquid Smooth AOSP ROM a try with Apex launcher, I NEVER though I'd leave Sense and actually use AOSP ROM for more than an hour, but it's been my DD for months.
AOSP has everything, you can edit all the soft key buttons to whatever you want, it's not as many Tweaks as Venom, but no offense to them, they have a bit too many I get kind of lost..
can you do me a favor, and tell me the last four number of your baseband?
go into settings > about phone - should be in there..
do you know if you flashed the Android 4.4.3 firmware??
If not then this is a big issue and most likely why your having GPE ROM issues, also Team Venoms ROM will run muuhc better.
if you need help getting the new firmware let me know, (if you don't already have it installed..)
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I"am on 0702 baseband, and I restored a stock backup and stock recovery and I took the ota for 4.4.3 the week it came out.
When I tried a couple gpe roms it was a while before the verizon firmware update came out but others were using them on the same verizon firmware, and the team nocturnal gpe is made for a verizon m8, its not like some of the other roms where they were made for international or gsm and then just modified to work on verizon m8.
I think roms that are made for your exact version of m8 work better than roms made for a different version then are adapted to work on the verizon m8 also.
Any news on this? I´ve been trying almost everything around to convert to WWE/Dev, no joy at all.
Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
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Would it work for me since I'm using a Verizon m8 on cricket which is gsm?
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I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
M9guy said:
I doubt it matters who your on, its all about the conversion process working which no one has ever posted they converted the verizon m8 to a dev edition.
Only the gsm version have been able to be converted to a dev.
Believe me I tried and tried and tried and its posted all over where no one could figure it out.
The verizon m8 is a world phone meaning both cdma and gsm so in theory it should be possible but the cdma side may well be what keeps the conversion from working.
I do not think you will find much support on this going forward since the m9 is out now and most likely any conversion efforts would be put towards the new model m9 instead of last years m8.
Now if someone cracks this for the verizon m9 then it may be used towards the m8 also but the focus would mostly be on the new model m9 you would think instead of last years m8.
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I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
rickylambert said:
I second this. Tried everything around and still no joy.
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I feel your pain brother as I tried to do this on my verizon m8 I spent a couple week trying and finally gave up as their was really not enough dev interest on doing this and I couldnt do it myself as I fully admit I"am not the guy to do it.
If someone gets her done on the m9 I"am sure the m8 would get it also, until then I guess we verizon users are another red headed step child right in front of the sprint guys lol. At least until they eventually weed out cdma which might take years to do but I believe that is their goal by maybe 2020 lol same for ditching 1x and 3g to convert that spectrum to LTE.
I"am just going but what I have read so please dont anyone ask me for documentation on this lol.