Hi all,
So last night I decided to give Cyanogenmod7 a try. I came from MIUI.us 2.1.20 - I just love MIUI, but it's a bit too demanding for the Milestone. So I have CM7 up and running, and it is a lot more snappy. But now, I'm having trouble installing some apps.
I tried installing my bank's banking app, but it didn't install - checked the market and it doesn't appear. Same thing with WhatsApp!! If it were working, I might just become a CM7 user..but it's not working.
Am I missing something? I installed after doing a full wipe, after which I installed DT A2SD scripts and then gapps-20111216 (although didn't see gmail or market etc after gapps, so installed those via apk).
What's the deal here?
Thanks.
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Ok, just wiped again, and reinstalled all. CM7 then gapps then dt a2sd. So far it's working.
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googleservicesframework.apk and vending.apk are all you need for using market. Try to reinstall them. May you success.
Ok, so now my problem is A2SD. It's not working! A2SDGUI refuses to go in, and when I do a check, I get a segmentation fault...I've never had this issue before. I've tried reinstalling DT A2SD from withing recovery and still, nothing. Please assist, I just need to get set up properly now.
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DT scripts dont work ...use an external partition (app2ext)
d.casper.b: CM7 for Milestone already comes with its own ap2ext scripts that are automatically used if there is ext partition present on your sdcard.
You should not install any 3rd party app2ext scripts as they are very likely to be conflicting with the scripts that are already there.
Thanks kabaldan.
I'll check it out.
I was even going so far as trying to use Link2SD from the market..
How'd I know if it's working? By monitoring the available internal storage?
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d.casper.b said:
Thanks kabaldan.
I'll check it out.
I was even going so far as trying to use Link2SD from the market..
How'd I know if it's working? By monitoring the available internal storage?
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when you will enable app2ext you will see the total space in your storage rise to 197 mb
I am not winning. I did a factory reset and flashed cm7 and gapps (not dt a2sd).
I did a test, internal storage was at 191mb, then I installed opera mobile and it went down to 182mb. Then uninstalled it again. Went into cyanogenmod settings and set install location to external. Installed opera again, but it was no different. Moving it to sd under 'manage applications' increased the internal memory again, but that's just moving the app to the FAT32 partition of the sd card.
So it's not seeming to work for me for some reason.
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EDIT: I really don't want to be a nuisance, but now, looking at the available storage using "Quick System Info", I noticed after uninstalling "Opera Mobile", 9mb was freed on internal storage & 13mb on the ext partition.
So, perhaps it is working, and since the dalvik cache is (I assume) on internal storage, the storage is still decreasing. Am I correct? If so, is there a way to also move dalvik cache to the ext partition - I had it like this on MIUI & never looked at available memory ever again.
First of all, have you really partitioned your SD card? Make sure you followed the 3rd step on this guide: http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/ . You should have your SD Card partitioned with two partitions, the first should be FAT32 that's used normally on Android, and the second EXT3 or EXT4. Obviously, make sure you have a backup of your FAT32 partition before partitioning.
Second, you should understand how the apps2ext scripts on CM7 work. Application installs that would be stored on internal memory are rerouted to the EXT3/4 partition on the SDCard. This happens at the underlying system (linux) level, Android (that runs on top of linux) is not aware of this rerouting, so, as far as Android "knows", apps that are rerouted to the EXT partition are on the phone's internal memory. That means that you should make sure that apps you need installed on the EXT partition of the SD card are shown in "Applications > Manage applications" list to be installed on the internal memory. Yep, it's confusing, but once you understand how it works and why it works that way, it makes sense.
Third, the fact that apps are rerouted to the EXT partition doesn't mean that everything about the app will live on the ext partition: it means only the main application package will live on the ext partition, application data is still stored on the internal memory. For most apps, the amount of data used for application data are much smaller than the application package, but in some apps the amount of application data from the app may often surpass the size of the app itself - for example, in my phone, Tweekdeck stores about 9Mb of data, which is about 10 times the size of the application itself (820kb) - presumably this amount of data is cached tweets, pictures, etc. But that case is usually the exception, not the rule, I've just mentioned it so you understand that using apps2ext doesn't mean your internal memory will always stay unused, it just means it will be used (way) less.
Finally, regarding the CyanogenMod Settings location setting, if you understood what I said above, you should now understand that it should actually be set to always install to "Internal", rather than external. However, there's a bug in this that you should be advised, that not all apps will respect this setting: some apps will install to external regardless of how you've configured that setting (meaning the app will use Froyo/Gingerbread native Apps2SD, hence being installed to the FAT partition of the SDCard). So, when you install a new app, check on app management if it didn't get installed to the SDCard, and move it to the internal memory if that's the case. For these kind of apps, you'll have to do it every time you update the app too.
Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
I understand entirely what you've said, I know that internal is really ext if working, and sd is FAT32 partition.
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
Thanks for putting up with me..I'm almost there.
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d.casper.b said:
Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
I understand entirely what you've said, I know that internal is really ext if working, and sd is FAT32 partition.
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
Thanks for putting up with me..I'm almost there.
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in the market you will find an app called s2e which moves app data, davlik cache to sd
also link2sd also free's up more space and makes cm7 snappier
please don't install such things to CM7 for Milestone unless you know what you are doing and you are able to resolve conflicts with the existing scripts
dalvik-cache is already moved automatically
if you want to free more space in /data, enable lib2ext to move native libraries to ext - it's mentioned in the changelog for 7.1.2 release
app data itself should not be moved as it can cause instability
d.casper.b said:
Thanks, I edited my previos post..
I actually have 3 partitions, a FAT32, an ext2 (maybe it's ext3, but doubt it - partitioned some months ago, so my memory's hazy), and a SWAP - which I should get rid of, but am too lazy.
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Yeah, get rid of swap, there won't be any use for it (for now anyway) and it's best for you at this point to have a known working structure (two partitions, 1st FAT, 2nd ext3/4) for your SD as you're troubleshooting your problems/questions, it'll make it easier for us too as this will eliminate potential points of failure or inconsistencies. And you should really consider upgrading to a journaled filesystem, either ext3 or ext4. Using ext2 is unreliable because Android doesn't umount the ext partition cleanly on reboot or shutdown, so you may have problems with apps disappearing or misbehaving every other reboot. Using ext3/4 with journal elimitates this problem since the journal is just replayed for the uncleanly umounted partition and the filesystems behaves more consistently.
d.casper.b said:
You see, I'm just new to this rom and have to trial and error until I understand, with miui you just flashed the rom and the a2sd scripts and didn't bother again (maybe only to move an app that installed to FAT partition). But it seems CM7 is simply just to flash the rom and you're good to go. But as I was pondering in my previous post...is there any way to move dalvik cache to ext?
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The apps2ext script built on CM7 should do this by default - you probably already have your dalvik-cache on the ext partition. To check this, go into OR, enter the console and type: "ls /sddata/dalvik-cache" . If it returns a list of files, you've already got the dalvik-cache on your ext partition. Another option is setting the option dalvik.vm.dexopt-cache-only to 1 in the file /system/build.prop . This will put all dalvik-caches (both from user apps and system apps) on the phone's internal cache partition, thus still freeing space on the internal memory but without using the ext partition, but that's not recommended if you install too many apps because the cache partition may run out space and that will spawn all kinds of weird behavior on Android. The safer route is just using the default configuration anyway (user apps dalvik-cache on sd-ext).
Another option to further reduce internal memory use is using lib2ext, that will move user apps native libraries to the ext partition, but the memory gain in this case is dependent on which apps you use and how big their native libraries (if they even have one) are. To activate it, just go into the Terminal app (with Android booted) and type:
$ su
# lib2ext
And reboot. The libraries will be moved to the ext partition during boot. Make sure you have a big enough ext partition to hold everything (apps, dalvik-cache and apps libs) - the size to recommend is very dependent on how many apps you use and how big they are, but I'd say 512Mb would be the bare minimum.
in the market you will find an app called s2e which moves app data, davlik cache to sd
also link2sd also free's up more space and makes cm7 snappier
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DON'T! JUST DON'T! These third-party apps will cause all kinds of problems with CM7 builtin apps2ext.
EDIT: Oh well, Kabaldan already put all my rambling much more succintly than I could... I'm way too talky
well i was jus trying to help.. .anyway guys thanks i guess i won't be needing those apps anymore ...sorry for my noobness
Thank you so much guys!
It seems like it's working. I will check out lib2ext & the other suggestions tonight or over the weekend (on my way to work now).
I must say, I thought the move to CM7 would be a temporary one, but the speed gain is just what I needed, & the tweaks I thought I'd miss I am finding hidden in the settings .
Just wondering on the battery now - but I've been fiddling non-stop.
So let me play a bit more the weekend & I'll merge my ext2 and SWAP partition into one ext3 partition.
Thanks all, and kabaldan for your hard work on this rom.
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Just as I was on my way...
Everything's running fine, A2SD works. But now, I partitioned my SD card with a 2nd partition (ext3, it was ext2), but now widgets are not loading. Checked the apps install location, and it's 'internal', ie. ext3. I never had this before. I think maybe it's due to the filesystem now?
EDIT: Ok, ext2 is doing the same. I can't keep starting from scratch the whole time guys.
EDIT2: It's now suddenly working! Just have a Fat32 and an Ext3 partition. But I don't understand because it's been setup like this twice before with no success. I'll hold thumbs!
PS, CyanogenMod is quite up my alley now, speed is awesome and I'm happy.
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Ok in FB's kernel thread I asked is link2sd could be creating reboots when linking a app during a automatic update. FB asked why I was using link2sd.
So after some discussion Im confused. And not wanting to clutter his thread anymore Im creating this one.
My understanding is link2sd uses your current ext partition and puts apps in the sxt partition then symbolic links the app to the original location. That way you gain that much space on your internal.
FB says the built in apps2sd of android does that already. But I was told all it does is move the app from the internal to external (sdcard). This is possible even without a ext partition, I know because several people with the Optimus V do not use link2sd or anything like it. They just use the built in app mover.
When I had my Optimus V I used this data2ext but I do not think it would work for our phone since its written for CM7. WIth that my interal memory showed up as however much my ext partition was minus the apps. What it did is trick the OS into thinking the ext partition was really the internal storage.
My question is am I right in how link2sd works or am I misunderstanding?
Is there a version of the data2ext that works on the SGS4G roms we have and I just cant find it?
Here's some reading for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
bakpinar said:
How it works:
Link2SD mounts the second partition of your SD card as /data/sdext2 and makes OS mounts it at boot time.
When you select an application and press "Create Link" button you can select which files of the application will be linked and moved to SD card. Apk, dex and lib files can be moved and you can select all three or any two of three or even only one of them.
Depending on what you select, Link2SD moves apk file, dalvik-cache (.dex) file and lib files (.so) to SD card's second partition and creates symbolic links in original directories.
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apps2sd does NOT require repartitioning your sdcard and it's an Android 2.2+ feature.
links2sd requires your sdcard to have at least 2 partitions + formatting your sdcard, and is a 3rd party application.
Ok I understand that. Don't we need a ext partition anyway? IM trying to wrap my head around this but I'm still confused how the built in moves the app to the ext partition.
I'll read more of that thread tomorrow stupid ISP OS doing maintenance and my net is crapping out.
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First of all, what do you mean by "ext partition"?
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First of all, what do you mean by "ext partition"?
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I think what eollie is looking for is what we had on Froyo. Remember dsexton's ext4 guide? We could create a second (ext4) partition on our EXTERNAL Sdcard and use Link2sd to move apps there..
On Froyo I had a second 1.5 GB ext4 partition on my EXTERNAL sdcard and used Link2sd app to move my apps to that partition. It worked Great and I miss having it on Gingerbread. I could not get dsexton's guide to work on Gingerbread at all. It caused me all kinds of problems. Even soft bricks..
Sorry if I'm wrong eollie.
On my old Milestone xt720 I used link2sd primarily before 2.2 was available for the phone. It involved setting up an ext4 partition as well as a linuxswap partition.
At this point ... seeing as we have gingerbread which already moves most apps to sd card ... the only advantage I can really see is that when you use links2sd you can move absolutely any app to sdcard (keyboards, alarm clock, ect) that would not normally be moved.
Now one thing to be cautious about when using links2sd is some apps will not work properly when on the sd card. This is especially true with apps that have widgets. For example - if you move your digital clock to sd card the clock widget will not display.
I don't know if this will be helpful but I just thought I would offer my input.
Jerry D said:
I think what eollie is looking for is what we had on Froyo. Remember dsexton's ext4 guide? We could create a second (ext4) partition on our EXTERNAL Sdcard and use Link2sd to move apps there..
Sorry if I'm wrong eollie.
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You are correct.
The link I posted is what I used on my Optimus V. It tricked the phone into thinking that partition was the internal memory.
Like jiggleynuts (that name kills me) said you have to be careful with what apps you put on the sdcard. I was using that but when I update apps it would move them to the sdcard if they could be. And my apps that have widgets I use were breaking cause of it.
Again if we can use something like the data2ext I linked to then I would scrap link2sd faster than you could blink. I hate having to use a app when there is a alternative like the data2ext stuff.
Am I wrong in thinking the ext support we have is the same as what the op in the thread I linked is talking about?
eollie said:
Ok in FB's kernel thread I asked is link2sd could be creating reboots when linking a app during a automatic update. FB asked why I was using link2sd.
So after some discussion Im confused. And not wanting to clutter his thread anymore Im creating this one.
My understanding is link2sd uses your current ext partition and puts apps in the sxt partition then symbolic links the app to the original location. That way you gain that much space on your internal.
FB says the built in apps2sd of android does that already. But I was told all it does is move the app from the internal to external (sdcard). This is possible even without a ext partition, I know because several people with the Optimus V do not use link2sd or anything like it. They just use the built in app mover.
When I had my Optimus V I used this data2ext but I do not think it would work for our phone since its written for CM7. WIth that my interal memory showed up as however much my ext partition was minus the apps. What it did is trick the OS into thinking the ext partition was really the internal storage.
My question is am I right in how link2sd works or am I misunderstanding?
Is there a version of the data2ext that works on the SGS4G roms we have and I just cant find it?
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eollie -
did you ever get the data2ext mod working for the t959v?
i remember you from the optimus v forums last year.
correct me if i'm wrong but we used the data2ext mod with bumblebee and harmonia? i'm considering trying that data2ext v7 mod on this device. i'm actually really surprised that mod isn't being used with this device like it was with the O-V. Both have limited internal memory. maybe i've not learned enough about this device and it isn't capable of utilizing the mod. i'm kinda curious why darktremors app2sd mod isn't used either. its an easy option in the kitchen. either way i'm curious what you've found out or experienced with these mods. i do know link2sd works with this device, so i'm assuming data2ext and darktremor app2sd would too.
I replied to your pm. But Ill answer here too, I never found a conclusive answer. So I just move apps using the built in android app2sd function. If there happens to be a app that needs images loaded at boot like launcher themes or the such I just move it to internal memory.
ok cool. i may try it. i dunno.
thanks for your response.
Hi friends, i installed LINK2SD with two partitions on sd-card and linked all apps (except go launcher, evernote, applock, link2sd, free2sms)
but my internal memory is only 39% free.
If i try to install any more apps(linked) , internal memory getting filled and becoming very very slow.
My phone is galaxy ACE-5830 (2.3.4) -Stock ROM
Does linking the app to sd card moves the apk+data ?
Im posting screenshot also.
plz help me guys
There are many roms that does not support proper sd-ext service like odexed roms .. I think you should go for app2sd after flashing darktemor beta 4.
common
It's a common error.
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I have a Link2SD & ext4 partition. I can't create a script. Any suprise?
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There are many roms that does not support proper sd-ext service like odexed roms .. I think you should go for app2sd after flashing darktemor beta 4.
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i really dont want to flash a new rom....fine with stock... :/
but do you think....for more results should i flash with? can you name some roms without bugs..plz
mvmsk said:
i really dont want to flash a new rom....fine with stock... :/
but do you think....for more results should i flash with? can you name some roms without bugs..plz
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For more roms you should ask your fellow members i.e your ace members. I don't have that phone. So, cannot recommend any. :sorry:
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Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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that's normall.....extend ur ext-sd partition....ow....and try hd2sd by @hillbeast ....it'll move ur dalvik-cache and more of apps tobur ext-sd than link2sd ....or...use kyrillos13's app2sdv2 script ....it does the same
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madmanmatt616 said:
Hey! I have been following the forum pretty well for months now and I love it that there's so much of progress. I am a big fan of Pranjal's Rom and am currently running v4.2 which has Link2SD as a sys app (which btw is a sexy app )
Ok so here's the problem :| When I tried to update a couple of apps I found that my internal storage is almost full This was surprising to me coz i autolink all my apps using Link2SD. I don't even have that much files. So I formatted my second partition, made it ext 4 and again installed a couple of apps.
Here's the thing. The apps seem to be linking to the second partition, but annoyingly enough they are also taking space in my internal storage. Can someone help? I really need space :|
@pranjal18
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thanks @madmanmatt616
since you've formatted your partition, i would suggest you to reflash the whole rom again and run the script in terminal emulator (mentioned in read me file)
your problem had a very easy solution
in link2sd press menu>>more
here you have a few options...touch all the options below "recreate mount scripts"...and , "link dalvik-cache files" and "clean up teh dalvik cache" will give you more internal space!!
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
mankokoma said:
the problem could be that the data of the apps are collected in /data/data/"appfolder"
you can figure out with Titanium, which apps are using most space: menu-> overview of app storage use. then u can outsource the folder to sd-ext and make a symlink in /data/data to the outsourced folder.
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Can you tell me exactly how to outsource to sd-ext? Just a copy paste would do? Then you suggested a symlink. I do understand why you told this, thing is I am clueless on how to link only one. As far as I could understand, link2sd creates such links from /data/app to the sd-ext. How do I create a link for /data/data/"appfolder" ?
I hope what I said makes sense . Thank you
sorry, so short on time...
MAKE A BACKUP FIRST, JUST IN CASE!
- copy & paste the whole folder to sd-ext with terminal emulator or adb shell:
cp -Rp /data/data/nameoffolder /sd-ext/nameoffolder
- delete the folder in /data/data:
rm -rf /data/data/nameoffolder
symlink:
ln -s /sd-ext/nameoffolder /data/data/nameoffolder