SuperSU or superuser? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

Which one is better?
Whats the difference between the 2?
Im using rom toolbox pro and in the toast message when phone boots it tells me to use supersu
How do i get rid of the installed superuser and add supersu without losing root or bricking my phone?
Thanks in advanced

FingerBlastJ said:
Which one is better?
Whats the difference between the 2?
Im using rom toolbox pro and in the toast message when phone boots it tells me to use supersu
How do i get rid of the installed superuser and add supersu without losing root or bricking my phone?
Thanks in advanced
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Install SuperSU from the Play Store, grant it root access, then delete SuperUser using a file browser. Or you can try flashing the SuperSU zip from the official xda thread and it should replace SuperUser automatically.

I haven't noticed a difference between the two. Used both on various ROMs for a decent amount of time. AFAIK, they are only there to handle root permissions for apps. That said, never had a problem with either.

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[Q] GS4 installing superuser

i just rooted my phone using motochopper. and am trying to use ltm launcher. every time i open it, it says root context not able to get permission.
and then when i go to the superuser, it says the superuser binary (su) must be updated. and it ask if i want to recovery install or just install, but none of it works. i even downloaded supersu from chainfire and it says there is no su binary installed. so i need help getting root permission to apps so i can get lmt launcher to work.
i read an old post with they guy with the same problem and u told him to flash it with something but i am not really sure how to do that. so if u can kind of explain how to do that.
thanks
wrestling103 said:
i just rooted my phone using motochopper. and am trying to use ltm launcher. every time i open it, it says root context not able to get permission.
and then when i go to the superuser, it says the superuser binary (su) must be updated. and it ask if i want to recovery install or just install, but none of it works. i even downloaded supersu from chainfire and it says there is no su binary installed. so i need help getting root permission to apps so i can get lmt launcher to work.
i read an old post with they guy with the same problem and u told him to flash it with something but i am not really sure how to do that. so if u can kind of explain how to do that.
thanks
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Just installing the super user app from play store doesn't root your phone.
SuperUser app only manages root permissions. It itself does not root the phone. Head over to your xda section and read there how to root your phone .
omerjerk said:
Just installing the super user app from play store doesn't root your phone.
SuperUser app only manages root permissions. It itself does not root the phone. Head over to your xda section and read there how to root your phone .
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Like I've said I have already rooted my phone using motochopper. That's not the problem. The problem is not getting super user updated
wrestling103 said:
Like I've said I have already rooted my phone using motochopper. That's not the problem. The problem is not getting super user updated
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Did you follow the official rooting procedure as given in your xda forum? Because if your phone is rooted then you won't face any problem related to SuperUser app and updating binary and all these stuffs.
I've had the same problem as listed above.

CM11 get rid of Superuser?

I'm using a CM11 ROM, and Superuser is giving me problems - throws up errors now & again. I like and want to use SuperSU, but Superuser is integrated into the ROM.
How can I get rid of Superuser and replace with SuperSU (preferably just using my phone, no ADB).
setspeed said:
I'm using a CM11 ROM, and Superuser is giving me problems - throws up errors now & again. I like and want to use SuperSU, but Superuser is integrated into the ROM.
How can I get rid of Superuser and replace with SuperSU (preferably just using my phone, no ADB).
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in the integrated superuser menu(can be found in device settings), if you open settings, you have the option of giving superuser access to "disabled" (by default it is apps only).
after disabling you just have to flash the supersu zip file(can be found on the supersu xda forum) via recovery mode. and you're done.
I flash the superSU.zip after flashing CM11 and Gapps so superSU is the main root app. Never had an issue.
Please keep it friendly and there is no need for name calling of any kind. We tend not to like people resurrecting old threads, but seen as this came in handy for someone there's no harm done.
Thread cleaned.
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Please keep it friendly and there is no need for name calling of any kind. We tend not to like people resurrecting old threads, but seen as this came in handy for someone there's no harm done.
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Thank you, mod. Wasn't trying to cause any problems, just trying to help a new member.
rdx93 said:
in the integrated superuser menu(can be found in device settings), if you open settings, you have the option of giving superuser access to "disabled" (by default it is apps only).
after disabling you just have to flash the supersu zip file(can be found on the supersu xda forum) via recovery mode. and you're done.
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i'm having some problems in cm11 with superuser too so i took your advice and disabled it and flashed the supersu.zip but still no root and then i went back to enable it again under settings but now the superuser option is gone.
how do i fix this?
Just make clean flash of CM, then get SuperSU via store
JimZiii said:
i'm having some problems in cm11 with superuser too so i took your advice and disabled it and flashed the supersu.zip but still no root and then i went back to enable it again under settings but now the superuser option is gone.
how do i fix this?
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In the SuperSU settings, there is a setting called something like "Respect Cyanogenmod Settings". Uncheck that.
Thnx alot! Works great! Now i just have to change that stupid google dialer that's in cm11
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replace kinguser with supersu

somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
dewagame said:
somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
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hI! I try on my HUAWEI ASCEND G6 and... dont work ... is possibel that an update that Kinguser had done make it impossibel?????
I root with RootGenius_en, was ok, kinguser ask for a update, done. But Now i whant to change do SuperSu and dont work. I had permissions and every thing...
Help! :crying:
Me too
I'm trying to do this too, but I aint sure how to do it. I mean I guess if its not super necessary I can leave it the way it is. Tried this method and its a no go. I don't think the KingUser SU is letting superSU update its binaries. I already have twrp, but not sure what next. If its not necessary I'll leave it alone, but I was just wondering if theres any reason to change over or if it could even be done.
P.S This way never worked for me as superSU can't get past trying to install the binaries. I got twrp so I'm wondering if I'd have to flash it. Nothings wrong on my end are anything, but I just assumed having superSU would be better then kinguser but not really sure.
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
Must vary from device to device cause I've did all that, and it gives the message "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again" and if kinguser is removed in superSU when trying to update/install the binaries it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device."
This aint the g6 though but this thread is the kinguser replace with superSU thread. So I thought I'd post in it.
washichi said:
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
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Install SuperSu rom magazin play.
Then instal rom lite box.
Open the app, and uninstall kinguser
easy, and it`s working.I just deleted kinguser 2 mins ago
Hum
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
freestilesteve said:
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.
No worries bro. Probably varies depending on how you root from device to device.
Its not your fault. No worries. I'm just thinking it varies from device to device and how you actually go about rooting . I'm also thinking that maybe if I rooted with another app/prog that it would have been easier to switch from king user to superSU. I use lookout premium security on my phone and kingroot and king user have never been flagged with any viruses so I've just left it on and running the way it is and so far so good. Other then the two errors I mentioned in the previous post king user/kingroot has been working good. I'm sure if I did a whole restore/wipe/clean and root with another program there might be a possibility to remove king user and replace with superSU but in the end I just decided to roll with king user/kingroot as I didn't feel like doing al that and its been doing its job fine.
QUOTE=andruala;58880236]Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
The earlier versions of Kingo Root were much better
jidanni said:
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
Indeed. What is needed is for someone to take a vanilla phone into a cleanroom, install the mess, and report back on exactly what ended up getting put where, in order for somebody to make a "kinguser detox/.antidote" APP and/or shell scripts that would clean the mess totally back off.
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
satine01black said:
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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Why did you need to root with kingo if you have custom recovery?!
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
satine01black said:
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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Oh. I wasn't angry at you Was just asking.
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
satine01black said:
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
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You can, but it doesn't really make much sense to.
Use Eroot, then try superSU installation
CVAngelo said:
Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
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I had the same issue with my mobile, (Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray (ST18i)), I then rooted my phone with EROOT Software which installed a superuser app, then i got the .apk file of SuperSU via Bluetooth from a friend and installed it. one has to grant permission when it asks for superuser rights, then updating binary files is no longer a problem. It also asks for removal of the Superuser-app that was pushed through the EROOT software, you do that. Then I installed link2SD and link2sd pro key from google play store and converted the SuperSU app into a system-app. Now SuperSU is working perfectly again.
You both should try it!!

[Q] Temp Unroot needed for NowTV . --- (A) This has now been Answered in Post 9

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Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56539897&postcount=9 for the Answer
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Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
Disable Superuser in SuperSU settings.
zoro25 said:
Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
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Or if you are on a Cm nightly you can turn them off in the developer option
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
Outside of the nightly wing if you want stability use the M releases, they are designed to be more stable than the nightly branch
zoro25 said:
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
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The problem isn't really the SuperSU as such, it's CM. They flag CM as a rooted ROM, it'll even happen if you're on stock un-rooted CM11S.
Transmitted via Bacon
I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
skyguy126 said:
I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
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As per my post right above yours, it isn't SU that's the problem, it's that the ROM is CM.
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Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
zoro25 said:
Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
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This is just a theory... may be wrong:
Can't you move the SuperSU app into /system/app instead of /data/app. Or does the NOWTV app have perms to check the integrity of /system also. Or can you change the app id of the SuperSU app with a simple decompile tool.
I did that while using cm11s. But still had problems trying to watch skygo. In the end I had alter my buildprop to a phone which supports skygo as at the time it didn't support oneplus one. Then full unroot etc to watch then root back to get root access again.

Root Kindle Fire HD 10

I was able to use Kingoroot for PC to root my Fire HD 10. Updated to the newest Firmware. It would say it was rooted. But, Trying to give permissions and checking with root checker was not successful and said there was no root. I installed SuperSU apk it says the binary is occupied. So I Uninstalled the superuser apk. that was installed by Kingoroot and tried to change the build prop with a root browser text editor and it was successful so apparently it roots but superuser is not working to grant or deny permissions. It automatically grants permissions does not even open up superuser so its kinda dangerous but it is rooted and working. My experience is that kingoroot superuser must be Uninstalled for root to work. I used twrp manager to backup my recovery img., and boot img. I am going to try to build a recovery for it but I'm not In a hurry plus I'm not sure if it will flash afterwards anyways but if you want root, Kingoroot for pc and Uninstalled the kingoroot superuser apk it installs and you will have it
Installed magisk manager installed zip direct (recommended) it bricked the fire. And then I adb sideloaded the update and now I'm back in business reasonably easy to do but I do not recommend magisk at this time .
Going to try xposed next
Couldn't get it to install says it's arm device tries to install and says it's an arm64 device. Plus has to be flashed in recovery and one hasn't been built yet
You can't manage Kingoroot su binary using SuperSU.
If you not install SuperSU su binary, SuperSU apk does not working.
Try this method to install SuperSU su binary.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75242414&postcount=99
erono said:
You can't manage Kingoroot su binary using SuperSU.
If you not install SuperSU su binary, SuperSU apk does not working.
Try this method to install SuperSU su binary.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75242414&postcount=99
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I installed supersu to find out if it was rooted since the root checker said it was not. the binary error was a confirmation that it was in fact rooted and it doesn't matter what superuser is used it will not allow pop up or apps to draw over other apps so when it's rooted with kingoroot it automatically grants root without a confirmation,as long as the kingoroot super user app is not installed and if SuperSU is kept installed default permission has to be set to grant for root to work. I in fact installed the SuperSU binary through an older version of the apk and it installed but still has no control over denying or granting permissions. Thanks for the advice though. I appreciate your willingness to help me
Joker1716 said:
I was able to use Kingoroot for PC to root my Fire HD 10. Updated to the newest Firmware. It would say it was rooted. But, Trying to give permissions and checking with root checker was not successful and said there was no root. I installed SuperSU apk it says the binary is occupied. So I Uninstalled the superuser apk. that was installed by Kingoroot and tried to change the build prop with a root browser text editor and it was successful so apparently it roots but superuser is not working to grant or deny permissions. It automatically grants permissions does not even open up superuser so its kinda dangerous but it is rooted and working. My experience is that superuser must be Uninstalled for root to work. I used twrp manager to backup my recovery img., and boot img. I am going to try to build a recovery for it but I'm not In a hurry plus I'm not sure if it will flash afterwards anyways but if you want root, Kingoroot for pc and Uninstalled the superuser apk it installs and you will have it
Installed magisk manager installed zip direct (recommended) it bricked the fire. And then I adb sideloaded the update and now I'm back in business reasonably easy to do but I do not recommend magisk at this time .
Going to try xposed next
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Not trying to insult your intelligence or anything here, but you said newest firmware? Newest Fire firmware? Newest firmware isn't rootable from my understanding.
What firmware were you on when you started the root process?
Also, are you making sure that the Kingoroot "install our extra junk" box isn't checked (not sure that would prevent root success)?
It wouldn't open superuser. superuser should be set to "grant" because of how the Fire works, which it sounds like you are aware of based on your last post. I wouldn't say it's dangerous, per se.
I've followed this guide nearly a dozen times now and I've not run into the issue(s) you're having.
smam1338 said:
Not trying to insult your intelligence or anything here, but you said newest firmware? Newest Fire firmware? Newest firmware isn't rootable from my understanding.
What firmware were you on when you started the root process?
Also, are you making sure that the Kingoroot "install our extra junk" box isn't checked (not sure that would prevent root success)?
It wouldn't open superuser. superuser should be set to "grant" because of how the Fire works, which it sounds like you are aware of based on your last post. I wouldn't say it's dangerous, per se.
I've followed this guide nearly a dozen times now and I've not run into the issue(s) you're having.
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Prompt dialog not working in amazon fire devices.
erono said:
Prompt dialog not working in amazon fire devices.
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Set prompt to grant and fixed.
yes. mind doesnt pop up supersu granting notification too
my fire hd 10 is on 5.6.1.0
someone told me it's amazon's own security measure
stevenchun said:
yes. mind doesnt pop up supersu granting notification too
my fire hd 10 is on 5.6.1.0
someone told me it's amazon's own security measure
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One can try this improvement :
SuperSU access workaround for Fire devices
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/supersu-access-workaround-fire-devices-t3738269

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