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All i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. Post requiring info needed.
Open-Android-Alliance Create a fully open source Android OS
The new site is officially up: Home of Open Android Alliance register now everyone
As you all are probably aware Cyanogen has been sent a Cease and Desist order.
The purpose here comes from an idea of Sr. member Doooshty where we should
use this opportunity to get everyone come together and create alternatives to Google'
apps we are calling on anyone with experience who is up to the challenge to set this
straight and out "Android" Google.
People we are rebuilding android as we see fit if you want to Frankenstein it to hell open another
thread... OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY if i can not get the source one way or another it is not being used
This however is not about Getting back at google or who was in the wrong in the C&D
This is solely a project about distributing a *Flavor* of android that is fully customizeable
and does not rely on google or other copyrights...
As of now the goal is a Rom (No google at all) that we can make calls from and text
I would like all apps to be developed in house so it is easy to get in contact with the developer if we
want to make any changes or get intouch with the origional developer to make sure they approve.
All apps to be open source not just free and require writtin permission from origional developer giving permission to edit (mainly visually)
THIS IS ALL EXPERIMENTAL AT THIS TIME
We are going to need several things from devs such as:
1. New app store
slideme.org
anddevstore (cant find exact link)
various other new open source projects in process of being developed
Obsidiandesire is looking into the android store
2. New email system
Dev needed
3. New Navigation
Dev needed
4. New IM client
Dev needed
5. YouTube
Dev needed
Talk of porting a .flv player but unclear about content copyright
6. Setup Wizard
(App developers is it possible to create a simple app that is basicly
a drop down with all major carriers APN settings that will
automaticly set at first boot?)
irrenhaus discovered it is a only database change. Any app developers
want to look into this with him?
7. Sync Alternative
Dev needed
8. Browser
(steel, default, opera)
Dev needed
I would like to get permission before using them if possible.
9. Making apps talk to each other.
Dev needed
10. Space for development files.
Anyone?
we Should open one of them google project pages jk
11. We need a centeral "stock" theme perhaps we can get some prototypes drawn up. this is so the visual
designers have something they can go against so every app has a sort of "flow" to it and color schemes are
not changing drastically through every app. (this can be changed later)
90% of useful apps come from this website in some way so i believe along with Doooshty and Cyanogen
that this can be accomplished...
CALLING ALL DEVS!!!! If you are interested in taking android away from the chains
of the man post here or send me a private message.
Can anyone create a Rom with no google what so ever to start with so we can see where
we need to go from there?
This is coming along nicely (other then the occasional "This is dumb blah blah blah") I want to thank everyone for taking an interest in this.
Now while other ways may work like loop holes and loading close source apps on the user end at this point it will require one of 2 things either 1. Each developer does it thier own way (which is perfectly fine). or 2 automatically import the closed source apps in via script (which im sure could be painless in itself) while this is easy the visual customization would be alot less user friendly AFAIK such as theming. Say you got that nice new manup theme everything just flows together but u open up a stock browser/email/whatever it really throws off the experiance I may be completely wrong but this is what I think.
Dont get me wrong i love google but id rather not have them stopping development right as we got something new rolling.
Stop Talk. Do Work.
Just to save you some time, Google Maps is already freely available from the Android Market:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.google.android.apps.maps
I don't know about the other apps though...
Alright
Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
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Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
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Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
F*** it who need those crappy Apps anyways. Just replace them with some that actually work better!
Yea but...
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Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
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That could be the case, however what is stopping them from doing it again we need to break the chains here.
i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
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i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there
Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more
http://slideme.org/ looks like the best replacement for Market.
My concern is with the sync code. You can build the providers from AOSP, but you can't actually sync without doing the registration process, which requires the closed-source SetupWizard and Checkin applications.
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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there
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edit: **** my distypesia kicked in...
cool it probably wont be done for a bunch of months tho, as its not due till the end of the simester and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
lol
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cool it probably wont be dont for a bunch on months tho, as its not due till the end of the siemster and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
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Well keep us updated no telling how long this is going to take :/
Well any ideas on the Setup or Check in apps what are thier purpose cant we just ditch them and use other methods of syncing?
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Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more
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eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.
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Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.
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Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?
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eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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the browser sucked compared to steel browser anyway
jjcd51590 said:
Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?
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We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
I vote for replacing the browser with steel
and email app with k9-mail.
We need also to patch the installer to be able to install apps to system.
True True
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We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
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Yeah your right about that how would a non-Google experience android phone work then anyone know? and i was just throwing ideas around lol thanks for clearing that up
i went to the google site http://productideas.appspot.com/ and left the idea leave him the hell alone or hire him
I know its still kinda soon and all but do you think that there will be something along the lines of this quick install for the pre for the evo soon?? I used to have it for my pre and I liked it a lot. I just think its an easier way to out themes and tweaks on your phone. Lets get some devs on this
AS far as I know, It does not exist, but it would be awesome.
I mean, I understand the ROM approach, and all is good, but is a little bit too much.... For instance, right now I have OMJ's rom that gives me anything I need, but, let's say, I want to add something.. like to edit the hosts file to avoid ads, I only have 2 options, either load another rom (and again wipe everything, restore from a backup, and manually tweak the data that was not backed up, like some edits inside contacts, quick dial, etc), or manually tweak the hosts file, but there is no software to help automate any tweaks like Quick Install.... (or patches or anything like that)
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AS far as I know, It does not exist, but it would be awesome.
I mean, I understand the ROM approach, and all is good, but is a little bit too much.... For instance, right now I have OMJ's rom that gives me anything I need, but, let's say, I want to add something.. like to edit the hosts file to avoid ads, I only have 2 options, either load another rom (and again wipe everything, restore from a backup, and manually tweak the data that was not backed up, like some edits inside contacts, quick dial, etc), or manually tweak the hosts file, but there is no software to help automate any tweaks like Quick Install.... (or patches or anything like that)
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This is why we should make this a sticky and get people to make this happen. It would be so convenient and easy for the people that dont know what to do when it comes to the ROMs.
agreeeed! quickinstall and preware...aww man bring back the memories....
Can someone explain to me what this quick install thing is? Maybe I or one of my co devs can help make it happen
im quoting from the pre wiki:
Preware is a package management application for the Palm Pre and the Palm Pixi. Preware allows the user to install any package from any of the open standard package repositories on preware.org (or any other location that hosts an open standard package repository). Preware relies on a custom written service developed from community research which allows the mojo app to talk to the built-in ipkg tool.
This application was the result of extensive community-based design in IPKG Service and Preware Design.
For application management, Preware can access more applications, and has more features, than any other on-device package installer.
And since it is open source, and has a completely open development process supported by a team of world-class WebOS Internals developers, it will continue to get better much faster than any other package management application.
Preware is the open application installer that has been written specifically to support a homebrew ecosystem where any developer can upload any application to any submission site, and that application can then be installed by any user. Developers no longer need to upload their applications to multiple submission sites, and users are no longer excluded from accessing applications from any open standard package repository.
quickinstall is essentially the same thing but all actions done via your computer
the homebrew community for the pre was INCREDIBLE, im hoping with the growing number of users here that hopefully it will be just a good here!
Well first, the dev community here is much better. Trust me. It takes a little to get off our feet because WebOS and Android are completely different and HTC tries to block us at every move. The Evo community is moving faster than any other XDA Android community has. Don't doubt our devs
I knew what Preware was. I didn't realize quick install was the same thing. Ok so basically you want a repository consisting of what? Roms?
roms, patches,tweaks, themes, hell even some apps on the low low haha
haha i still have my pre and follow the updates on preware using wifi.
i think if devs use rom manager that would be great...and i am sure all devs will get on that soon enough
haha yea i have noticed work on the EVO moved alot faster than any of the other android phones...
thanks for your responses chuck, ill be getting more involved here and always let me know if there is anything i can do to help.
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Well first, the dev community here is much better. Trust me. It takes a little to get off our feet because WebOS and Android are completely different and HTC tries to block us at every move. The Evo community is moving faster than any other XDA Android community has. Don't doubt our devs
I knew what Preware was. I didn't realize quick install was the same thing. Ok so basically you want a repository consisting of what? Roms?
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why is that? i only ask because with the pre, palm was a really big supporter of the dev community...it just seems counter productive for htc to try and block users efforts to make the phones even more desirable and customizable...i know thats what drew so many people to the pre...also one of the reasons i loved it
Are you referring to something like metamorph maybe used it on my hero a lot
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ahh yea i guess in a way rom manager and meta pretty much do what preware does
i guess maybe we were trying to see if it could all be consolidated to one place [make it evo specific] and have a few more features and options??
for example: there is not flash for the camcorder...perhaps a patch to change that? or like when the light senor detects a face the phone is in earpiece, when you move your face away it automatically goes to speakerphone [i use these two examples because they are somewhat recent developments on the pre] but now that I have an idea of what kinda tweaks are possible i think we could probably move really quickly
havent played with metamorph yet but i will def check it out tonight]
EDIT #1: upon future researching metamorph it seems even more like preware than i thought, BUT the OP was talking about quickinstall...i am cool with either haha thanks for the replies
EDIT #2: i just tried to install and i guess its not ready for us yet...ill be patiently waiting i guess hah
Hello people. Good evening... I need little information about Android platform. I am currently using a jailboken iPhone. But I am fed up with restrictions in iOS, rendering my phone incapable of things a smart phone should be able to do.
I want to switch to Android. But I want to know some basic things about Android platform, before switching.
If I jailbreak iPhone, I can modify factory apps. For example I can add a tweak to actively sync my contacts with Facebook contacts. I can add a lyrics searcher to iPod.app. I can add attachment saver to Mail.app, a downloader to Safari.app. The list is very long. In short I can install tweaks which modify factory apps, so I dont have to install other apps to get the required functionality from my phone. For example I dont have to install a separate app for lyrics search if I install the aforementioned tweak.
I want to know if I can find similar tweaks for Android? I know about some powerful apps available for Android only. But my point is whether I can tweak various factory apps to increase their functionality, in a similar way I can do on a jailbroken iPhone? I ll greatly appreciate any info on this aspect.
Thanks
There are so-called mods for some of the applications (e.g. the dialer) which add missing functionality, but in order to fully benefit from them you have to replace the stock app with them. Also, it's sometimes quite surprising how 3rd party apps may integrate into your system (e.g. for pre-Gingerbread devices there are apps which add an option to send a single contact detail via SMS).
However, in Android world it makes a lot of sense to completely re-flash your device with a custom firmware image, e.g. the ubiqitous CyanogenMod, which brings a complete overhaul of the system while retaining vanilla Android look and feel, so you feel like your dialer, phonebook etc. were on steroids. There may also exist custom versions of stock firmwares with various tweaks and mods of varying quality - that's why sticking with CyanogenMod is usually a safe bet.
This is kind of off topic, but I think it can fit in this thread. How do you decompile android files such as apks so you can change certain aspects of the code and rebuild to have a modified file
rootfan said:
This is kind of off topic, but I think it can fit in this thread. How do you decompile android files such as apks so you can change certain aspects of the code and rebuild to have a modified file
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http://www.google.com/search?q=apkt...&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a
Vatazhka said:
There are so-called mods for some of the applications (e.g. the dialer) which add missing functionality, but in order to fully benefit from them you have to replace the stock app with them. Also, it's sometimes quite surprising how 3rd party apps may integrate into your system (e.g. for pre-Gingerbread devices there are apps which add an option to send a single contact detail via SMS).
However, in Android world it makes a lot of sense to completely re-flash your device with a custom firmware image, e.g. the ubiqitous CyanogenMod, which brings a complete overhaul of the system while retaining vanilla Android look and feel, so you feel like your dialer, phonebook etc. were on steroids. There may also exist custom versions of stock firmwares with various tweaks and mods of varying quality - that's why sticking with CyanogenMod is usually a safe bet.
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Thank you very much for your reply. It was helpful for me.
Given under my hand this 12th day of August 2011, I hereby post a bounty of $100 for a ROM build for the Samsung/T-Mobile Sidekick 4G (AOSP?) that functions, and will allow me to sync e-mail from Exchange @ work.
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer (contacts in same window, not open a new one, like on Droid1 [Vanilla?]), and not have any of the Bull known to be associated with the WHACKNESS that is typically seen on this phone with Stock.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC.
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V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*
*MUCHO EDITO*
VI) PATTERN Lockscreen must be the only one. Not doubled. (No Shade lockscreen 1st if pattern is enabled, I need the pattern!)
*/MUCHO EDITO*
I am hoping this is kosher to post a bounty, but I detest TouchWiz, Samsung's dialer (phone.apk), etc.
I am looking to get something like Cyanogen's Vanilla builds.
I haven't coded anything since Borland's/MS C for DOS, so I cannot do this myself.
Hopefully I can get some takers, and they can better this phone for the community.
I assume the source is out there, just need to be compiled. Several ROMs are very good, but all have Samsung's TouchWiz elements, seeking to avoid that.
Thank you for your time!
i like that you're going at! i know that if you use oprea mobile browser you dont get the bs checker boarding. its a very good browser check it out
sduvick is working on a stock dialer i believe its on his long list of work!
also he is trying to port cm6 which is helpful
im sure someone can get this working and will be easier if we get a gingerbread leak.
We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
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Given under my hand this 12th day of August 2011, I hereby post a bounty of $100 for a ROM build for the Samsung/T-Mobile Sidekick 4G (AOSP?) that functions, and will allow me to sync e-mail from Exchange @ work.
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer (contacts in same window, not open a new one, like on Droid1 [Vanilla?]), and not have any of the Bull known to be associated with the WHACKNESS that is typically seen on this phone with Stock.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC.
*EDIT*:
V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*
I am hoping this is kosher to post a bounty, but I detest TouchWiz, Samsung's dialer (phone.apk), etc.
I am looking to get something like Cyanogen's Vanilla builds.
I haven't coded anything since Borland's/MS C for DOS, so I cannot do this myself.
Hopefully I can get some takers, and they can better this phone for the community.
I assume the source is out there, just need to be compiled. Several ROMs are very good, but all have Samsung's TouchWiz elements, seeking to avoid that.
Thank you for your time!
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This phone is really crippled, even with the AWESOME Custom ROMs posted here, and MANY are VERY good.
The issue is features that were not thought about when Samsung screwed up their TouchWiz version of Android for this phone. Calender not able to add multiple notifications, or not notifying via the 1st one if two were added prior (via gmail or a functional phone), Phone.apk not having built-in Contacts section, etc.
tylermaciaszek said:
i like that you're going at! i know that if you use oprea mobile browser you dont get the bs checker boarding. its a very good browser check it out
sduvick is working on a stock dialer i believe its on his long list of work!
also he is trying to port cm6 which is helpful
im sure someone can get this working and will be easier if we get a gingerbread leak.
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We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
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It too is very good, but the dialer is still without the built-in contacts that is VERY efficient, and the calender is still touchwiz crippled.
I was late to an appointment due to this and the mentioned ROM.
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We can't get a AOSP Vanilla ROM there are no leak's of gingerbread so we can't get anything beside's TouchWiz but if i was you try out my ROM "Light'ning ROM V2" It has the vanilla feeling .
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he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
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he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
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Nice, I am treading very badly right now!
Are there better leaks with MotoPhones or something?
Those came out all the time, solid and fully featured.
(FYI: Currently running your TouchMIUIwiz v2.0 ROM, 'Tis very nice.)
I would gladly drop the $75 for a new T-Mobile phone with a larger screen (since I am in my 30 Day trial for a few more days) but no other QWERTY w/dedicated number phones avail, and the stock on those will probably have the same issues...
Sduvick is building CM6 / 2.2 i herd , but i doubt that'll be any time soon cause he's busy with other thing's prob .
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he didnt say it has to be GB, just AOSP. and Sduvick has quite some projects on his hands atm but an AOSP build is definitely one of them
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Sduvick is building CM6 / 2.2 i herd , but i doubt that'll be any time soon cause he's busy with other thing's prob .
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Lol i just said that.. CM6 is an AOSP build
We can get AOSP, it will just be AOSP 2.2.
This just jumped to the top of my list, I shall begin the challenge as soon as my Kernel finishes compiling.
As far as your list goes, let me make sure that I've got everything figured out:
I) This will have to have a non-Touchwiz/Samsung Dialer[\QUOTE]
This shouldn't be an issue, as an AOSP build will have the AOSP dialer, rather than Touchwiz.
II) It will be running Launcher Pro, so must work as such. [\QUOTE]
I use Launcher Pro myself, wouldn't dream of letting anything release without it working.
III) Another requirement is that when a page is loading, and you scroll at the same time, the BS Checkers are not showing (I think this is TouchWiz/Samsung specific, so shouldn't be a problem), if I wanted the checkers when scrolling, I'd have an iPhruity device.[\QUOTE]
I'll have to check in with you when I get it built to see what that part is doing, I'm not familiar with this, but I'm guessing it would be fixed by AOSP
IV) As staed above it will have to pull e-mail from an e-mail app (email.apk?) from MS Exchange server from the drop down notification without a FC. [\QUOTE]
Should work, if I remember correctly it worked right in AOSP
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V) Calendar must allow multiple notifications (from the app), and actually notify as such.
*/EDIT*[\QUOTE]
If this works in AOSP, it should work, never tested I suppose, but could be wrong.
*MUCHO EDITO*
VI) PATTERN Lockscreen must be the only one. Not doubled. (No Shade lockscreen 1st if pattern is enabled, I need the pattern!)
*/MUCHO EDITO*[\QUOTE]
there won't be any doubled, pattern should be no issue. (Misread that the first time, thought you wanted puzzle :])
let me know if you had anything else on your mind you wanted in it.
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I've been wanting to do this for quite some time as well. The only issue is being a full time student without a job makes putting up any sort of "bounty" just for some improvements is not possible.
However, I do have some spare cash and will toss all of it towards whoever breaks out an AOSP rom.
Good luck.
Meanwhile, me being a fulltime student who wants to get married, any extra payday sounds incredibly enticing ;]
Just to clarify, I want it as close to AOSP as possible.
Then, from that point, as much of it to work in landscape (EG: lockscreen) as possible.
And of course, any improvements like supercharge, voodoo, and so on.
I say improvements because I want just that. No changes.
I figure specifics aren't too important, because I can always tweek it from there or ask for what I'm not capable of.
Current unallocated money in my bank is just over 15$ xD
But with you already making the AOSP ROM, I figure it won't take too much effort from you.
I'm excited :3
Well, compiling AOSP, rather than just making an AOSP rom is very different. making an AOSP rom is just a matter of theming some things and pulling certain apps, where compiling an AOSP rom is more like building a kernel, where you have to compile the system from the source.
Whenever I see or use the words "AOSP ROM" it's always related to a ROM that is built entirely from the source code. Unless otherwise specified.
AOSP themed stuff, and AOSP apps are of course, just that. But when I say AOSP ROM, I mean a true AOSP ROM.
If there's something I'm missing, please let me know!
That's what I'm working on, theming is lame anyways, doesn't do what you really want it to. but because I have to compile it and screw with the source it may take a bit, it's my current project though and I'm starting now.
I am not sure if this helps but I have a non-rooted phone and hae "Go Contacts EX" (Contact Manager and LANDSCAPE Phone dialer) & "Business Calendar Free" (Calendar Replacemets - more like Google Calendar for Desktop Web)
These are much more feature-rich than the stock apps.
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I am not sure if this helps but I have a non-rooted phone and hae "Go Contacts EX" (Contact Manager and LANDSCAPE Phone dialer) & "Business Calendar Free" (Calendar Replacemets - more like Google Calendar for Desktop Web)
These are much more feature-rich than the stock apps.
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your not rooted why? so much more potential in the device
YES!!!
Alpha ETA? Hahahaaa!
KIDDING!
In case all you developers here are unaware, YOU BELONG IN THE ANDROID BIBLE!
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YES!!!
Alpha ETA? Hahahaaa!
KIDDING!
In case all you developers here are unaware, YOU BELONG IN THE ANDROID BIBLE!
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they really do they put so much work into our devices!
Hey guys, as part of my current work on producing a nice modified version of the "stock" firmware for the T-Mobile variant of the GT PLus, the SGH-T869, I have taken the approach of producing what I hope is decent documentation of my entire build process. Part of that has been cataloging all apps included with the "stock" ROM. I've got a very good start in finding at least a cursory explanation of what each app does and what effect removing the app has on the device.
I've been able to remove an alarming number of apps with no apparent ill effects, so at this point I'm turning to you, the XDA community, for assistance in figuring out what the remaining items do.
I have a publicly-viewable Google Docs spreadsheet here.
This spreadsheet is basically a list of every APK present in /system/app on the SGH-T869_TMB_T869UVLG7_T869TMBLG7 firmware, which appears to be the most recent ICS firmware for the USA T-Mobile version. I have backed up all files to an account I set up on Android File Host, and begun the process of linking them into the spreadsheet for easier reference.
As of now the following items are basically a mystery:
-ClipboardSaveService.apk
-CSC.apk
-DSMForwarding.apk
-DSMLawmo.apk
-FTC.apk
-FTM.apk
-FTS.apk
-Keychain.apk
-MobileTrackerEngineTwo.apk
-OmaCP.apk
-OmaDrmPopup.apk
-PanningTryActually.apk
-PCWClientS.apk
-Personalization.apk
-Phone_Util.apk
-PopupuiReceiver.apk
-PRUI.apk
-SecOmaDownloadProvider.apk
-etc
The intent with this document is to serve as a reference for people working with the "stock" Samsung firmware.
If you have any info you'd like to contribute, post to this thread or PM me
Also, I'll need "alpha" testers of my ROM in probably a week.
My initial release is planned to be simply a fully "optimized" copy of the stock ROM, with about 400MB of stock bloat removed, all remaining system apps deodexed and zipaligned, su and SuperSu, and probably some minor aesthetic mods added (1% battery and a themed notification bar).
The primary goal is to produce a nice stock-based ROM for the T869 (which doesn't have a lot of ROM options at present) and also to give the community a nicely documented guide on what I did, which may prove helpful to other would-be ROM makers.
a lot of these are 0MB or 0kb in size, or very small... eg.100kb or so.
You could always decompile these apks, would help you figure it out.
CSC.apk is Customer Service Configuration, or Country Code eg. KOR, XME, EUR
MobileTrackerEngineTwo is reponsible for tracking the device.. Samsung Dive, etc.. I believe.
Panningtryactually.apk involves tilting the device to scroll, etc. this .apk is just for thatwith pop up messages, etc.
Personalization.apk is directly related to CSC. This is the apk that will let you change your CSC I believe.
clipboard save service is obvious, I would keep that.
The others Im sure we could figure out.
I disabled a lot of stock apks and removed readers hub, and my device is pretty fluid as it is.
Awesome, thank you for the information!
I was planning on adding a column for file size into the spreadsheet next, so that bit should become obvious.
I'm pretty sure the ClipboardSaverService is actually a supplemental thing that allows you to "save" clipboard items so you can have multiple items in a stack, because the stock Android clipboard functionality has been working perfectly fine on its own with ClipboardSaver removed.
The more I get to know how the Samsung stuff is built, the less impressed I am by it. Almost all of the "new" stuff they add to their ROMs seems like solutions to problems that don't actually exist. The tilt-to-scroll thing was cool for about an hour, until I tried to use the tab on a bus and kept accidentally triggering it.
So far, with all the stuff uninstalled, I am getting really good battery life from my tab.I'm at 77% after 13 hours of discharging. Now, that's light internet use for a few hours and then sleeping for like 5 hours, but still. It's basically just as good as anything I was seeing from CM10. Work was crazy yesterday cuz we had some people missing, but today should be much less busy so I'll have time to chug away on the spreadsheet some more.
Anyone have any solid idea what Keychain.apk actually does? The name would imply that its some sort of secure storage manager that holds user credentials, like Keychain in Ubuntu and Mac OS X. However, I'm not entirely sure what that would mean in the context of Android. Maybe to manage passwords saved in the browser? I'm gonna have to probe a bit more to find out what it does, probably.
Scratch that theory about the ClipboardSaverService. That special GUI is only present on the stock "Internet" browser, and is present & working even with ClipboardSaverService removed.
Got a few bits of helpful info over here http://www4.gsmspain.com/foros/attachment.php?postid=12686608
there was a few good lists here on xda... also if you have time, learn to decompile these have a peek at some images and .xmls, you should be able to figure them out.
cheers.
FWIW, whenever I see FTM, I think Factory Test Mode.
I ended up "re-stocking" my GT-P7510. which apparently shares roughly 95% of the same APKs.
I have also finally found some actual negative consequences from removing "all" the Samsung stuff, attempting a download in my stock browser currently causes the app to crash.
This should help determine what at least one of the "mystery" APKs actually does
I don t know what the above mentioned "mysterious" apks are, but what I know is that I removed all of them already a while ago, and my p6210 works like a charm. But it s a wifi only model, for 3g models apks that are phone related shouldn t be removed, for obvious reasons...