Once upon a time smartphones all used to come with fixing holes on the bottom to attach a safety wriststrap/ lanyard. now they don't.
Why are manufacturers denying their users the insurance policy of a safeguard against dropping their phone, or having it knocked from their hand? Doesn't make sense to me.
My previous phone: the HTC HD2 was no exception (no fixing holes) but I was able to get around this limitation by attaching a strap to a loop of duct tape under the battery cover, as demonstrated in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL3owsWT3E4
the Nexus 4 likewise has no wrist strap option but also alas! no battery cover so the HD2 hack won't work. the only option left is to fit a slim hard case and attach the strap to that, altho. most hard cases, like the phones seem also to regard wriststraps as passé. There is one hard case that I've found that does have the holes to allow the fixing of a wrist strap: the "Rearth Ringke Nexus 4 Slim", but it's a premium priced case, and currently hard to get in the UK.
I decided to go instead for a cheaper DIY approach. The cheapest hard case that i could find on ebay UK was one by e-cell: "PROTECTIVE SNAP-ON HARD MATT FINISH BACK CASE COVER FOR LG NEXUS 4 E960" #200876235150 @ £2.65 with free shipping.
It's a nice case for the price with a non-slip surface; stiff and not too bulky, it fits the phone tightly but as expected doesn't have the holes. I was however able to drill my own with about 1 minute's work using a dremel. I was careful to leave a generous gap between the 2 holes i drilled so as not to overstress the case material. I also made sure the holes were in a "corner" so that the wristrap would not obstruct the fit of the case.
Here's the result. I'm very pleased with it. Unfortunately the only colour that they don't supply is my preferred black! but the red is growing on me.
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Cool. But I believe think the rearth slim case has lanyard holes.
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EvanJ18 said:
Cool. But I believe think the rearth slim case has lanyard holes.
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Don't see it?
And, I too, wish manufacturers would include a fix point.
croques said:
Don't see it?
And, I too, wish manufacturers would include a fix point.
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Its there. If you check out YouTube videos you can see it.
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EvanJ18 said:
Its there. If you check out YouTube videos you can see it.
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the rearth case does have lanyard holes. i said as much in the OP!
I don't get it, do you really put your wrist through the lanyard every time you use your phone?
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CLTatenza said:
I don't get it, do you really put your wrist through the lanyard every time you use your phone?
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not every time, and not always my wrist -- sometimes just a finger or 2.
mostly i use it when taking photos/ videos and juggling between portrait and landscape, or if i give the phone to one of my kids to take a picture.
the strap saved my hd2 a couple of times and so far (touches wood) i've never smashed any of my phones.
i also use the strap to brace the phone when holding it landscape in one hand. it takes the strain off so I don't have to grip it tightly.
and there are probably other uses (eg. theft prevention in a crowd?).
point is, the hitching holes are a zero-cost inclusion as far as the phone manufacturers are concerned so it's hard to see why they are all denying users this option now.
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not every time, and not always my wrist -- sometimes just a finger or 2.
mostly i use it when taking photos/ videos and juggling between portrait and landscape, or if i give the phone to one of my kids to take a picture.
the strap saved my hd2 a couple of times and so far (touches wood) i've never smashed any of my phones.
i also use the strap to brace the phone when holding it landscape in one hand. it takes the strain off so I don't have to grip it tightly.
and there are probably other uses (eg. theft prevention in a crowd?).
point is, the hitching holes are a zero-cost inclusion as far as the phone manufacturers are concerned so it's hard to see why they are all denying users this option now.
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Those "hitching holes" look unattractive and old school to me. They are found on ruggedized devices, not devices with a glass front and back. Perhaps the manufacturers feel the same way?
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Those "hitching holes" look unattractive and old school to me. They are found on ruggedized devices, not devices with a glass front and back. Perhaps the manufacturers feel the same way?
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Also adding "hitching holes" is not a zero-cost inclusion. Adding another step to the manufacturing process will increase cost.
NoL1m1tZ said:
Also adding "hitching holes" is not a zero-cost inclusion. Adding another step to the manufacturing process will increase cost.
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they wouldn't be adding anything.
that part of the case is an injection mould.
it's a design issue.
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they wouldn't be adding anything.
that part of the case is an injection mould.
it's a design issue.
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You obviously have no concept of how much those molds cost, along with the R&D to design and test the mold. For a feature that only a small portion of consumers want it is not worth the incurred cost.
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Also adding "hitching holes" is not a zero-cost inclusion. Adding another step to the manufacturing process will increase cost.
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Please watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9qeN42KAc0
Adding a hole is trivial when manufacturing almost anything, even with basic CNC machining. Electronics are barely handled by humans anymore during the manufacturing process for anything other than visual inspection, QC, and assembly. The only time it a hole or a feature like this is needed to be taken into account is when designing the mold or housing of the phone during the prototyping or design phase. Unless someone is manufacturing phones in their garage, any corporation producing phones today won't be saving costs by saying: "This lanyard loop is really breaking our backs, guys". Not that I am super pro-lanyard loop or anything, just saying that a lot of things are automated nowadays and you won't find a single machine dedicated to just drilling one hole in a manufacturing process for something like mobile phones.
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You obviously have no concept of how much those molds cost, along with the R&D to design and test the mold. For a feature that only a small portion of consumers want it is not worth the incurred cost.
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I agree that it isn't a feature that the mainstream consumer wants, but with 3D printers or CNC machines coupled modeling software, rapid prototyping is easier than it's ever been.
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You obviously have no concept of how much those molds cost, along with the R&D to design and test the mold. For a feature that only a small portion of consumers want it is not worth the incurred cost.
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you're right. i am not wise in the ways of injection moulding design so i could be wrong; that said, i can't see the inclusion of 2 holes in the mould adding much to the overall cost of manufacture, esp. since it's a one-time overhead.
incidentally while googling lanyards, I discover that i have potentially infringed somebody's intellectual property with my hack. how about this for a lame patent application?
DEVICE TO CONNECT A FLEXIBLE STRAP OR LANYARD TO A HANDHELD DEVICE
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120273541
tysj said:
Please watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9qeN42KAc0
Adding a hole is trivial when manufacturing almost anything, even with basic CNC machining. Electronics are barely handled by humans anymore during the manufacturing process for anything other than visual inspection, QC, and assembly. The only time it a hole or a feature like this is needed to be taken into account is when designing the mold or housing of the phone during the prototyping or design phase. Unless someone is manufacturing phones in their garage, any corporation producing phones today won't be saving costs by saying: "This lanyard loop is really breaking our backs, guys". Not that I am super pro-lanyard loop or anything, just saying that a lot of things are automated nowadays and you won't find a single machine dedicated to just drilling one hole in a manufacturing process for something like mobile phones.
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While it is true that CNC machines are very flexible machines, they are not used in the production of phone cases. Phone cases are made through injection molding. Injection molding is not even close to as flexible as CNC machining is. The end product is based solely off of the mold and can not quickly be changed unless there is another mold readily available. I think your confusing the production of the actual phone with the production of the case, two very different processes, one much more extensive and focused than the other.
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I agree that it isn't a feature that the mainstream consumer wants, but with 3D printers or CNC machines coupled modeling software, rapid prototyping is easier than it's ever been.
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Again, rapid prototyping is made for just that, prototyping. While the machines and processes you bring are are quite adapatable they do not apply in this discussion. Also it would be wise to remember that the "rapid" in rapid prototyping is no where close to the speed at which a injection mold can produce parts.
theabsurdman said:
you're right. i am not wise in the ways of injection moulding design so i could be wrong; that said, i can't see the inclusion of 2 holes in the mould adding much to the overall cost of manufacture, esp. since it's a one-time overhead.
incidentally while googling lanyards, I discover that i have potentially infringed somebody's intellectual property with my hack. how about this for a lame patent application?
DEVICE TO CONNECT A FLEXIBLE STRAP OR LANYARD TO A HANDHELD DEVICE
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20120273541
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While you are correct that it is probably a one time overhead, you have to comprehend how much that one time overhead costs, then consider how many consumers even care that you include this feature.
Have you tested whether if when you have the lanyard on and you drop the phone, that the phone doesn't come out of the case?
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Have you tested whether if when you have the lanyard on and you drop the phone, that the phone doesn't come out of the case?
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yep, it's a tight fitting case. i tried swinging it over a bed and it didn't budge.
CLTatenza said:
I don't get it, do you really put your wrist through the lanyard every time you use your phone?
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Really nice to have when you are taking pictures at a concert. Not only to protect it from the fall if knocked out of your hand but also from getting lost under foot in a crowd of people...which I have seen happen on several occasions.
I loved how Sony didn't forget. My Xperia z and z1 had the wrist strap slot and I loved it. But my new Xiaomi Redmi 3s doesn't have it... A temp fix it that I have a rubber case with the string around the mic and charger slot but it's not to be stress tested
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Will be doing a thorough review on the Seidio Active X Case, including some tests for durability. Pictures will be included.
Providing the Basics today along with a few photos, will run the case through a series of test for durability and use this weekend. More pictures to come!
My apologies if a couple pics don't look so great Camera was giving me issues.
Intro:
Well Just received the Seidio Active X case today and I have to say I was surprised. You are provided with three pieces. Outer Screen protector, a rubber back skin, and then a Plastic Skeleton to go over the rubber back piece. Installation was breeze and this case is easier to remove due to the design of the Plastic Skeleton. Outer Screen protector is pretty simple to remove but having finger nails will benefit greatly! Another thing to note: Since the Skeleton is a separate piece, changing colors will be simple ( if you wanted to could even paint it! ). Sliding Mechanism was not affected at all.
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Design:
Outer Screen protector
Outer Screen Protection Piece does have a taller lip and it is a little thicker but feels strong. With the taller lip I didn't find any affect or issues with comfort on the use of the screen or buttons. The finish is smooth with a rubbery feel, and yes you may find that one or two little bumps within the finish - (If you really want to remove the bumps in the finish then use 1500 or 2000 wet sand paper and very Lightly go over the bumps. Make sure to wet the paper - this will allow you to keep the finish). The tabs are located on both the top and bottom of the piece and sectioned in the middle ( view pictures above ). -- This is nice since the most common issue with cases is scratching or restriction due to the tabs being placed on each side.
Rubber Skin:
IMO - I love this! Provides protection for the phone without the possibility of the case scratching the phone itself. Both the Power and Volume buttons are covered but fit the form of the phone and require the same amount of pressure to be pushed. As for the cut outs - Match perfect- Mic, USB, Headphone, Camera, and LED, and if by chance yours does not you can also trim whatever excess you need to since its rubber.
Back Skeleton:
The back Skeleton has a very smooth finish with no bump in sight. The skeleton itself is very sturdy along with the clips located on each corner. Now the design was to set for most common point of Impact. On any phone there are 6 points - Top Left and Right Corner - Bottom Left and Right Corner - Left Side - Right Side. The Skeleton was designed around these 6 points of impact along with using the rubber skin interior as a shock absorber. The skeleton Case Wraps around on each point which in truth allows for a sturdier construction due to each point of impact being supported both by form and curvature.
I will provide pics of the phone within the case once the Camera is charged.
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If you can assure me that this product 1. Does not look as rough around the edges as in the pictures on the website 2. Allows me full functionality of the keyboard (slides open *duh*, doesn't hinder ability to use top row number buttons) 3. Is durable and well made enough to justify spending $29.95 on a case, then I will glady purchase it. Question: Is there any way you could get pictures different angles of the case for example the top and bottom with keyboard open/closed, I am seriously interested as long as I can have some good information to go off of.
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If you can assure me that this product 1. Does not look as rough around the edges as in the pictures on the website 2. Allows me full functionality of the keyboard (slides open *duh*, doesn't hinder ability to use top row number buttons) 3. Is durable and well made enough to justify spending $29.95 on a case, then I will glady purchase it. Question: Is there any way you could get pictures different angles of the case for example the top and bottom with keyboard open/closed, I am seriously interested as long as I can have some good information to go off of.
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I thought i was he only one that notced it was looking a little rough on the website.. i hope a company like seido wouldn't release a product looking like that..
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 4G
Any information any user provided I sent off to seidio for development of the active x case that way they can attempt a perfect case. I'm not sure but I think the color plate is switchable which would be a nice option.
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jok3sta said:
I thought i was he only one that notced it was looking a little rough on the website.. i hope a company like seido wouldn't release a product looking like that..
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 4G
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Sadly ALL of the Active cases are like that.
On the Nexus and Evo active cases, the rubber has lots of extra bits, and the ports aren't perfectly cut.
On the Evo, the plastic shell doesn't fit perfectly around the rubber skin, and has a bit of a gap.
You can take a exacto blade and remove the uneven edges if you want.
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NeonMonster said:
Sadly ALL of the Active cases are like that.
On the Nexus and Evo active cases, the rubber has lots of extra bits, and the ports aren't perfectly cut.
On the Evo, the plastic shell doesn't fit perfectly around the rubber skin, and has a bit of a gap.
You can take a exacto blade and remove the uneven edges if you want.
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That's disappointing to hear, how could they expect me to pay that amount for such bad quality? When we get some detailed pictures I will have a better idea of the quality, but until then all indicators point to a poor quality product.
thomasskull666 said:
That's disappointing to hear, how could they expect me to pay that amount for such bad quality? When we get some detailed pictures I will have a better idea of the quality, but until then all indicators point to a poor quality product.
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Seidio is currently the best quality case out there for the epic but it ISN'T any OtterBox or even CaseMate.
The plastic exoshell on my friends Evo has been shedding since she purchased it. Little bits of plastic come off the shell just from having it in her pocket.
Seidio is not worth the price of the product, quality wise. But when there is literally nothing else on the market, what else can ya do?
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NeonMonster said:
Seidio is currently the best quality case out there for the epic but it ISN'T any OtterBox or even CaseMate.
The plastic exoshell on my friends Evo has been shedding since she purchased it. Little bits of plastic come off the shell just from having it in her pocket.
Seidio is not worth the price of the product, quality wise. But when there is literally nothing else on the market, what else can ya do?
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That's the problem, is that there are no other options besides the Seidio case. Still waiting on those pictures though...
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Mine has been ship out to me already just waiting on it to arrive.
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Ordered one this afternoon. Hopefully, they'll show mercy and have it in the hands of USPS by tomorrow so I can have it to use on Saturday night
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Looks pretty good so far, I'm going to test my luck and buy one tomorrow, hopefully it turns out good!
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how easy is the back part to remove?
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how easy is the back part to remove?
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Not hard at all, just grab a corner and pull away slightly and should come right off.
Still not sure I can justify paying $30 for a case vs. $2 I paid for my ebay one. I'm sure quality is very different, but I feel like the level of protection I get from my ebay one (which I guess we are referring to as the "bar" kind from that other review) is adequate enough. It feels good in the hands too. I'll wait to see pics of this when you have everything fully assembled. I'm wondering how thick it gets with 3 pieces.
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How much more thickness does it add. Is it still pocketable? obviously it'll be thicker but pictures and actual hands on is always a differant story. Thanks!
I want to know does it fits in the media dock?
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How much more thickness does it add. Is it still pocketable? obviously it'll be thicker but pictures and actual hands on is always a differant story. Thanks!
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Just a tad thicker really, add maybe 1mm if that IMO. Fits in the pocket no issue at all, and the case finger groves are perfect, ambidextrous. Also the lip around the Face Protection of the case has more depth.
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I want to know does it fits in the media dock?
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Nope, sadly it does not, but then again no case does that I have heard of.
I'm debating designing / manufacturing a case for the phone (I'd have to outsource some labor, but it would be local) and funding it through kickstarter, I'm wondering how many people would be interested in buying / helping figure out what the hell to do. I really want a solid case that will protect my phone, but I don't want it in a case when I use it. It would be a well protected pouch with credit card slots on one side for ID / cards, and an open pouch for cash / coin / other misc stuff on the other, it would button shut(with magnets of course, I hate actual clipping buttons) with a double layer of microfiber cloth. I have a pretty solid idea and I don't think it would cost too much per unit in the end. I could even have different trim options for different amounts.
I've been keeping my phone is a 12x12 black microfiber cloth wrapped up and it's a pain in the ass.
TL;DR: I can't find a solid case so I think my only real option is to build one. I want to design / build my own for production through kickstarter, I'm looking for help / see if there's any interest or if I should just abandon the idea before I put any time into it. It will be a wallet pouch that clips with a magnet.
I built a paper prototype and I'm amazed out of 172 views not one person shared their opinion, I will be building a prototype out of actual materials soon, probably felt first since I don't want to butcher a bunch of leather.
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Here are my terrible prototypes, the back has 3 credit / license / whatever card slots, the front that has two magnets in the corners, you can kinda see em bulge from the top in the open shot, and the v shaped cutout ( probably won't be the final product) is where the slot is for the cash / coin / misc stuff.
I'd REALLY appreciate any help with making this but if not, I'll continue to work on it and at least make myself a legit case, since I can't seem to find what meets my needs.
ALL criticism is welcome, I'm trying to do this because it seems like a good opportunity and I always have ideas I want to follow through with but never do.
Seems like a promising idea, but hasn't it been done before? (Look through the master case thread for reference). Love to see new talent in action, so while I'm not in the market for a case, I'll definitely follow this thread.
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I've looked through countless cases and as far as I know it hasn't been done before, I'll probably have some new prototypes by tomorrow night. Even if nothing comes from it other than me wasting $100 to build myself a case, I'll be glad with the results as I can replicate them for a Nexus 5 or whatever is next. My end game is to have a wallet that holds my phone in a pouch, my wife has a flip cover and I don't like that the phone is embedded in it, so I want a pouch that can hold my cards and cash, and is sealed by magnets. I plan on making the final product (be it mass production or not) a high quality pouch that can compare with high quality wallets. I tend to come up with big ideas that never come to fruition (I'm 25 and constantly think of get rich quick schemes [websites, large scale plans] that never see more than my last word in the idea, so I want to do something) I see a gap in the market that I can fill, and have looked through most of the Etsy / Ebay stuff and none of it seems to fit my tastes. Thank you for the interest, and I do welcome input as I move forward with the plan.
I really like this idea and I would probably one if it was for sale.
With that said... a couple of suggestions.
1. one or two more card pockets would be useful for me. It looks like there might be room if you stack the openings closer together.
2. Have you tried using the cash pocket? It seems like it would be cumbersome to me. I worry that constantly pulling bills in and out might end of being a frustrating experience (like trying to feed bills into a soda machine).
Just to throw out ideas, what do you think about a pouch that opens on the long side?
As a minor concern, how big is this thing going to be? Is it going to get into girl wallet size territory?
I'm game. I prefer a soft leather. But would be in for the kick starter.
My biggest gripe with some of the current flip cover phone/wallet cases is that they're designed to barely be able to close with two cards. It's pretty much nearly impossible to still comfortably include some cash in such wallets. So one thing I'd love to see is a phone wallet that can close comfortably with some gap left deliberately to allow the "wallet" part of it to actually hold cards and cash comfortably.
Secondly, it'd be nice if the wallet were sized to allow bills to go in with no more than one fold. IMO once bills start needing two folds to fit, it starts becoming a pain to find the bill you need when you're fumbling through a check out line, and have people behind you giving you disapproving glares.
Awesome to see some other people interested, I was making a felt version and it really wasn't working out, and these ideas are pretty genius, I have nothing against it opening on the long side, and that could allow it to be smaller, I don't want it to be much bigger than the phone, the final product will of course be slimmer than my current attempts. I don't have any experience manufacturing anything so it's a good learning process for me, and I'd just source out the work to a local business.
Just a few thoughts:
@curiousbob I actually think I'll make another paper prototype at work tomorrow (much easier with paper) and see how opening it on the long side instead works. I do not want it to be any bigger than it has to to adequately protect my phone, and hold my cards/cash.
@Elsydeon I'm going to try to make it fit more cards with a smaller size by opening it on the long edge. Cash will probably go in a pouch that opens behind the phone or in front of. That way it's secured with the flip top (which can contain a larger flex point to allow for a thinner or thicker wallet), and cards can go along it, it might be a bit thicker than I originally was planning, but it will be substantially smaller and functional. Coins will be a no-go however.
I want something like the blackberry pouch which is hard and made of leather
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kristoff125 said:
Awesome to see some other people interested, I was making a felt version and it really wasn't working out, and these ideas are pretty genius, I have nothing against it opening on the long side, and that could allow it to be smaller, I don't want it to be much bigger than the phone, the final product will of course be slimmer than my current attempts. I don't have any experience manufacturing anything so it's a good learning process for me, and I'd just source out the work to a local business.
Just a few thoughts:
@curiousbob I actually think I'll make another paper prototype at work tomorrow (much easier with paper) and see how opening it on the long side instead works. I do not want it to be any bigger than it has to to adequately protect my phone, and hold my cards/cash.
@Elsydeon I'm going to try to make it fit more cards with a smaller size by opening it on the long edge. Cash will probably go in a pouch that opens behind the phone or in front of. That way it's secured with the flip top (which can contain a larger flex point to allow for a thinner or thicker wallet), and cards can go along it, it might be a bit thicker than I originally was planning, but it will be substantially smaller and functional. Coins will be a no-go however.
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No coin pouch. Bills and room for a max of let's say 6 cards would be awesome
kristoff125 said:
I'm debating designing / manufacturing a case for the phone (I'd have to outsource some labor, but it would be local) and funding it through kickstarter, I'm wondering how many people would be interested in buying / helping figure out what the hell to do. I really want a solid case that will protect my phone, but I don't want it in a case when I use it. It would be a well protected pouch with credit card slots on one side for ID / cards, and an open pouch for cash / coin / other misc stuff on the other, it would button shut(with magnets of course, I hate actual clipping buttons) with a double layer of microfiber cloth...
TL;DR: I can't find a solid case so I think my only real option is to build one. I want to design / build my own for production through kickstarter, I'm looking for help / see if there's any interest or if I should just abandon the idea before I put any time into it. It will be a wallet pouch that clips with a magnet.
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Kristoff, would your pouch be a two-sided variation of the Mofi kangaroo pouch?
It has a pocket on one side of the pouch (for headphones or whatever).
(pic just for your comments - to confirm if it's a pouch like this or something more like a wallet.
@Bizi it was originally going to be similar to what you showed, except it was going to have a magnetic flip top to protect the pouch contents (cash) and have the back exposed for tight fitting card slots.
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Seidio has proven to me that they are a force to be reckoned with when it comes to quality cell phone cases. I’ve owned a Seidio case for ALL of my Android devices (HTC Hero, HTC Evo, Samsung Epic, Samsung Droid Charge, Droid Razr, Nexus 7 (2012), Nexus 4 and now the Samsung Galaxy S4). All of these cases have been excellent and others have hands-down blown me away (such as their Active Case for the Nexus 7 - ) and now the OBEX Case for the S4!
To be clear, I’ve owned numerous other cases and products also along the years ranging from inexpensive TPU cases to other “industry leading” fan-favorites. Seidio has met and exceeded my needs and wants each and every case I’ve owned and has proven time and time again why they are good at what they do.
This case is EASILY an A+ Quality device that easily shows what sets Seidio apart from their competitors and shows what happens when ANY company puts their minds towards creating a great product!
Technical Specs
For those who like specs, they can all be found at Seidio’s website (which basically says the following):
This product is not compatible with the Samsung Wireless (Inductive) Charging Cover or the Samsung GALAXY S4 ACTIVE.
Protecting your Samsung GALAXY S4 is not always easy, but Seidio’s OBEX® utilizes advanced technology that not only safeguards your device against drops, but also keeps external elements from damaging your device. This daily use case will protect you from water and accidental coffee spills, inclement weather including rain and snow, and from the dirt and grit of everyday activities.
We have simplified the design to ensure that your GALAXY S4 is protected at the highest level possible in the form of a slim and sleek case that is easy to install and devoid of any loose parts or covers. Our unique tunneling design enables true passage of sound, while the built-in screen protector promotes touch sensitivity and clarity. OBEX® will give you the ultimate protection – anytime, anywhere.
Waterproof
- Case meets the IP68 rating, signifying that it is both dust-tight and protected against complete, continuous submersion
- Critical points of entry are blocked by a two-stage protection system
- Anti-reflection glass protects the camera lens without interfering with photo quality
- Water proof membranes shield the microphones and speakers while maintaining with sound quality
Drop Protection
- Exceeds the MIL-STD-810F standard and can survive drops from up to 6 feet
- Internal structure is designed to protect your Samsung GALAXY S4 in the event that it is dropped or compressed
- Combination of Polycarbonate (PC) and Thermoplastic Polyurethane (TPU) materials provides protection from impact
- Raised edges on the case and the 4H hardness rated screen protector create a barrier from external elements
Everyday Protection
- Designed so your Samsung GALAXY S4 remains fully functional for daily use
- Easy installation of only two parts creates a unibody design and eliminates the worry of loose pieces after case assembly
- Soft rubber stoppers keep dust and liquids out of headphone and USB ports while still allowing easy access in dry conditions
- Case will not interfere with radio signals, Bluetooth, IR Blaster, or NFC (Near Field Communication)
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Additionally, Seidio says that the OBEX case “exceeds the stringent requirements for both IP68 and MIL-STD-810F certifications.”
More information at http://www.seidio.com/document/IP68.pdf and http://www.seidio.com/document/MIL-STD-810F.pdf.
In other words, regarding IP68 certification, the OBEX case is the highest level of contact protection (rated 6 - Dust Tight) and the highest level of protection against liquid and moisture (rated 8 - Completed and continuous submersion in water for up to two meters for 30 minutes). As far as MIL-STD-810F certifications… it’s a 529 page document. I can’t even pretend that I’ve read it all or understand it. Needless to say, from what I have read, it appears to be pretty intense testing!
First Impressions and Installation
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Honestly, no one cares what the packaging looks like as long as it’s not a ziplock bag (it’s not by the way). Packing was professional and well done. Included in the packaging I received a waterproof 3.5mm Male to 3.5mm Female Audio Adapter (which I have not tested), the OBEX case for the Samsung Galaxy S4 and a belt holster (optional).
I had no idea what to expect when I received the case. Would it be huge and bulky or reasonably sized? Would I hate it and send it back immediately or would I give it a fair shake-down? Initial impressions really didn’t sway my mind one way or another. It all had to come down to testing. Regardless though, this surely HAS to be better than running in the rain with my phone in a ziplock bag, right?
OBEX Case Impressions
The $1,000,000 question: Is it REALLY waterproof to the specs that they listed and will it keep my device dry? YES IT WILL!!!
Initial waterproof test:
Dunk Test!
But… before we get that far, let’s cover some details.
For some unknown reason, Seidio decided to put the instruction manual for the device INSIDE of the case. So the only way to know how to open the case is to risk breaking your expensive new waterproof case in hopes of not damaging it (luckily I didn’t damage it), try to find directions online or ask Seidio for help. I did all three.
STOP!!! Before installing - Check these two links!!!
Here is some useful information I found on this:
THIS VIDEO and the installation manual found HERE.
Those who are familiar with Seidio’s signature soft-touch texture on the case will NOT find it here. This case does not have the soft-touch that we know and love and is more of a generic plastic feel. The colored sides are a rubbery-plastic material that offers a grippy texture.
All ports are clearly accessible (once ports are opened), the power and volume buttons are crisp and responsive. All phone calls reported that voice was clear and understandable and sounded the same regardless of if the case was installed or not. Additionally, playing music through the phone while the case is installed sounds perfectly ok and does not appear to add any muffling regardless of if the phone is placed screen up or screen down!
The camera and flash feature anti-reflective glass coverings that do not interfere with camera or flash functionality!
The headphone jack is accessible by a rubber plug that plugs into the top of the phone and also is attached to the case. As mentioned, the device comes with a waterproof jack but for the number of times I’ve caught my headphone cable on something and yanked it out of the phone, I’m not sure if I would even consider using this in a water-prone situation.
The top and bottom clips were somewhat of a pain to pry open but having done them a few times now, they DO get easier to do and still hold firm. Long term use will prove more valuable for how well these hold up.
The screen is dimmer and less clear than with a glass screen protector or with a naked screen. Such is to be expected with a case/screen protector like this. As you know, you don’t purchase a case like this just so you can have the clearest screen possible. You purchase this case to keep your device as safe as possible in as many preventable situations (such as snorkeling) and unpreventable situations (such as sudden dust or rain storms) as possible.
Note: While the case DOES fit with a glass screen protector installed on the phone, the touch response is garbage. I would advise using the case with ONLY the screen protector built into the case. Additionally, for those that have the aluminum home buttons installed, they will need removed also to ensure proper “clicking” of the home button. I cannot comment on film screen protectors.
OBEX Holster Impressions
The holster for the OBEX case is pretty straightforward and similar to the holster for other devices. This is, without a doubt, a MUST HAVE for anyone looking for a belt holster. There are a few improvements and differences with this holster that I haven’t seen (or have been redesigned) in previous models.
The Holster can hold the OBEX case in a “screen in” or a “screen out” position. Both positions leave the headphone jack accessible. NEITHER position allows the charging port to be accessed (though I’m hoping that Seidio considers a redesign for this as I feel it is clearly an oversight).
The first and most notable difference is on the center of the holster where there is a sliding switch that slides to a locked/unlocked position. This is actually an excellent idea as it allows the holster to become a modular unit! This lock secures the physical belt clip to the holster unit. This allows not only broken clips to be replaced but also allows for expansion to products such as car mounts and other accessories. Judging by the instruction manual linked above, there appears to be products in the works for this. My ONLY suggestion/complaint on this is that a car mount is significantly more useful if you can charge the device while you are using it (such as GPS on long trips); not being able to charge the device while it’s hooked to the holster is something I feel needs to be addressed.
The second difference is the return of a locking, spring loaded latch to secure the OBEX case in the holster! Oh how I’ve missed this feature on my past few devices. For those who are familiar with the locking latch, this is a new and improved version that is much easier to work and is more secure. For those who are not familiar with the locking latch, this version has a textured plate that slides up to the top of the device to hold the latch in the locked position and slides down to toward the bottom of the device to allow the latch to spring open/closed when inserting or removing the device from the holster.
Other than the singular flaw with being able to charge the device while in the holster, it’s a PERFECT holster in my opinion!
Cost
There is no beating around the bush with this one. This is one EXPENSIVE case! But, those of us who aren’t on a carrier that offers the S4 Active and would like some kind of additional dust/water/drop protection now have a great option to chose from! It is, undoubtedly, well worth the money.
Seidio sells the OBEX case on their website for $79.95 in black (with red or grey stripe) or white (pink or grey stripe) at the date of this review.
SEIDIO | OBEX for Samsung Galaxy S4
The OBEX case and Holster combo is an additional $10 dollars with the same options for the case.
SEIDIO | OBEX Combo for Samsung GALAXY S4
Photos
Look at ‘em below!
Have any questions or need a specific photo? Let me know!
Nice review.
I would add the case works fine with a "film" screen protector. Touch response is still great. However, I would spend plenty of time getting it spotless (fingerprint and smudge free) before putting it in the case because it will show if you do not.
Good review. But I wouldn't say a glass protector fits all that well. It does but the case is hard to close, the seems at the ends don't sit flush and feels as if it may pop open from the pressure. I ripped my iloome glass off, watching it crack as I did. I wish they made this case with a glass protector.
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Great review as usual by Kelmar! You beat me to it
Since I don't want to duplicate the main info already posted in the original review, let me add some of my own comments and a lots of more pictures
First of all, this is probably one of the most anticipated S4 cases. Period! I remember drooling over OBEX S3 case in hopes they will release it for Note 2, but it never happened due to s-pen compatibility issues. Now, being able to test this case with S4 makes me very sad because I no longer have my Verizon S4 review phone and have to use a display model of S4. Let me just tell you - this is the first case that actually makes me want to buy the phone just so I can use it with OBEX. A lot of you who are familiar with my work in both XDA and AF know that I have reviewed a ton of cases, and I can tell you this one is a pure quality crafted to withstand anything from water to impact or dust or snow. It doesn't just meets but actually exceeds both IPX68 rating and MIL-STD-810F test, all independently tested by NAC. This is not just a vendor claim, they can actually confirm that with independent test results.
I wasn't able to test it with a working phone, but I can tell you I was very impressed with a built-in 4H rated screen protector and the clarity of the image. Don't want to mention names *cough* otterbox *cough*, but other companies should take notes how it supposed to be done. I also done some research looking through a number of other review videos talking about how impressive S4 speaker sounds under the water while submerged. You can clearly see a lot of work went into design of that protective sound membrane.
For my water test, I used pool test strips since those will change color once in contact with moisture. In my last picture I actually showed how those colors look if moisture gets inside on that test strip. The case strayed dry without any problem.
Furthermore, I also would like to mention how lightweight the case is. Weighting only 2 ounces (56 grams) its featherlight and with overall dimension of 6" x 3 1/3 " x 1/2 " (150mm x 80 mm x 13 mm) it hardly adds any bulk, For something that offers such an amazing protection, hardly adding any bulk or increasing the weight is very impressive.
Also, the holster is very similar in design to CONVERT holster, and with OBEX S4 case you can actually place the phone facing out thus tilt it on a surface to use like a kickstand. That comes very useful.
The only comment I have is because you can't use wireless charging, you will have to open and close micro-usb port quite often which can add to some wear/tear but with everything covered under warranty - you should have piece of mind. Another comment is that back of the case is a bit on a slippery side, although when you place it on a flat surface you have 2 rubber bumps at each end that create friction with a surface to prevent it from sliding. The rubber material on the side of the case will give you an additional grip, although I would prefer to have back of the case less slippery. But then you can also argue that case is drop and water resistant, so what the heck!
Here are the pictures:
And a "water test"
Does s-beam and nfc still work with this case as I bump pics alot?
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So mine is waiting for me at work so won't have until tomorrow, but my questions is are you sure it won't work with wireless charging, since I just have the coils behind my back plate almost every case fits, just wondering, guess i will find out tomorrow. M main concern is it will put pressure on it and create a crack, I'll let you know what happens.
Posted from a Galaxy S4 it was.
Camboteav said:
Does s-beam and nfc still work with this case as I bump pics alot?
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I'll check in a few hours and let you know for sure.
oxidant11 said:
So mine is waiting for me at work so won't have until tomorrow, but my questions is are you sure it won't work with wireless charging, since I just have the coils behind my back plate almost every case fits, just wondering, guess i will find out tomorrow. M main concern is it will put pressure on it and create a crack, I'll let you know what happens.
Posted from a Galaxy S4 it was.
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I don't have a wireless charger. Let us know your findings!
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Camboteav said:
Does s-beam and nfc still work with this case as I bump pics alot?
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Confirmed operational from one device with OBEX case to another device with a SURFACE case.
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[VIDEO] Seidio Obex Galaxy S4 Review Installation Water Sound NFC Test
The guys who previously posted their reviews did a great job and so I am just going to post a video I made for the Obex.
In the video I did a water, sound and NFC test. It also covers the unboxing, installation and my thoughts on the case.
jkbane said:
The guys who previously posted their reviews did a great job and so I am just going to post a video I made for the Obex.
In the video I did a water, sound and NFC test. It also covers the unboxing, installation and my thoughts on the case.
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Do all cases with the holster come with a decal and pen? Or just you? I didnt get the holster, no pen or decal
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Mr. bird said:
Do all cases with the holster come with a decal and pen? Or just you? I didnt get the holster, no pen or decal
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I can't accurately answer that question. I got the holster combo. You can get the combo setup or just the case. All I can say is this is package I got.
Mr. bird said:
Do all cases with the holster come with a decal and pen? Or just you? I didnt get the holster, no pen or decal
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Mine (holster combo) came with the pen/stylus and decal also. No idea what determines if it's included though (maybe leftover promo items placed in the first few boxes?).
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kelmar13 said:
Confirmed operational from one device with OBEX case to another device with a SURFACE case.
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Thanks. Want the case but I'm a case hoard. I spent that much on the element eclipse case too!
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Did we really need another Obex thread. Good review though.
idle0095 said:
Did we really need another Obex thread.
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You mean, do we need...? Are there any other detailed review threads about S4 OBEX on the forum? To my knowledge case was released only now. If so, admins are welcome to combine all threads together.
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You mean, do we need...? Are there any other detailed review threads about S4 OBEX on the forum? To my knowledge case was released only now. If so, admins are welcome to combine all threads together.
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Well there is another thread on this forum about the case with pics. The case was released last week. I have had mine since last week. All the pre orders are getting them this week.
Great reviews guys. Are you getting any oil slicks on your screens like the Lifeproof cases are known for? I am tempted to pull the trigger on one of these cases but if it oils slicks like a lifeproof, I will pass. Thanks.
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Mine (holster combo) came with the pen/stylus and decal also. No idea what determines if it's included though (maybe leftover promo items placed in the first few boxes?).
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I ordered the holster combo and did not get the decal or pen. So maybe it was just a promo / supply type of thing. I am still happy with the case and holster though.
idle0095 said:
Did we really need another Obex thread. Good review though.
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I'd say we did. This is now the "official" review thread.
All the other threads we just talks, speculations and release info.
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whitlecj said:
Great reviews guys. Are you getting any oil slicks on your screens like the Lifeproof cases are known for? I am tempted to pull the trigger on one of these cases but if it oils slicks like a lifeproof, I will pass. Thanks.
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I'll give a whole days worth of use and snap some pics for you. I have kids too and their hands are worse than mine lol and they handle the phone at times.
Ease of removal?
I currently run with the Otterbox reflex which offers pretty poor protection (LCD somehow cracked in my pocket WITH reflex case on), but I use the case because I have to switch out batteries frequently. How much of a pain is it to do with this case, and like the Defender case does repeated removal cause the case to become loose (due to the rubber stretching). Thank you.
Pros
- Cut outs are perfect
- Doesn't interfere with spigen glass protector
- Keeps design cues from factory back
- Fair amount of grip and protection
- Texture on the sides is a plus
- Fingerprint reader works after recalibration...most of the time, as with most cases.
Cons
- Would prefer a softer/more rubber like material. It's a little harder than some tpu cases I've used.
- No amazon prime sellers.
Overall, it's a keeper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B016W...1-spell&pi=AC_SX110_SY165&keywords=V10+obliqe
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I have this case and love it - it doesn't add bulk to the phone (which is great on such a large phone already).
A+ from me.
Just bought one. I'm just waiting for it to get here
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I agree on the con about no amazon fulfillment.
Obliq uses DHL shipping who transfers to USPS.
I had delivery issue, and Obliq's response was they have to trust their carrier. They offered me a 50% discount if I ordered again.
Amazon, would of just apologized and sent out another on at no cost to me.
Other than that, great case.
Got mine from eBay...bought on 11/05 got it today. Ridiculous
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Lewzephyr said:
I agree on the con about no amazon fulfillment.
Obliq uses DHL shipping who transfers to USPS.
I had delivery issue, and Obliq's response was they have to trust their carrier. They offered me a 50% discount if I ordered again.
Amazon, would of just apologized and sent out another on at no cost to me.
Other than that, great case.
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After having prime for years, I despise ordering from anywhere else. Spoiled I guess.
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Lewzephyr said:
I agree on the con about no amazon fulfillment.
Obliq uses DHL shipping who transfers to USPS.
I had delivery issue, and Obliq's response was they have to trust their carrier. They offered me a 50% discount if I ordered again.
Amazon, would of just apologized and sent out another on at no cost to me.
Other than that, great case.
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Same here.. They said my case got lost somewhere during the shipping process. It's almost a month now since I ordered it. I was going back and forth emailing customer service. Finally they shipped a replacement November 24. Hopefully getting it next week.
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Would have been better IMO if they had beveled the edges inside the 'ring' around the control buttons/camera/flash/laser assembly on the back. Most cases do that in my experience, I know the "fake" SlimArmor case I just got for my Stylo does that and it's greatly appreciated in the overall design (the real SlimArmor does it, of course). If they had beveled it down over about 1/8" that would have been pretty awesome on this Flex Pro case but it does look nice overall, might have to be something I'll consider if I get a V10 myself.
Order mine from eBay on 26 Nov...until today not yet receive it...
br0adband said:
Would have been better IMO if they had beveled the edges inside the 'ring' around the control buttons/camera/flash/laser assembly on the back. Most cases do that in my experience, I know the "fake" SlimArmor case I just got for my Stylo does that and it's greatly appreciated in the overall design (the real SlimArmor does it, of course). If they had beveled it down over about 1/8" that would have been pretty awesome on this Flex Pro case but it does look nice overall, might have to be something I'll consider if I get a V10 myself.
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Not a fan of beveled edges personally since with the square pattern already introduced with the textured back...it would be too busy looking. The obliq design aesthetic is perfect imo in keeping with the phones original industrial modern rugged classy design intent.
I personally think that most of the cases designed overseas aren't the best looking and cheapen the look of most phones.
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I have 5 cases (including 2 different Spigen) & this ones is hands down the best case available IMHO.
~John
dinged said:
Not a fan of beveled edges personally since with the square pattern already introduced with the textured back...it would be too busy looking. The obliq design aesthetic is perfect imo in keeping with the phones original industrial modern rugged classy design intent.
I personally think that most of the cases designed overseas aren't the best looking and cheapen the look of most phones.
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I hope you understand that what I mean by making the area around the volume/power buttons beveled means it's sloped inward and down to make it easier to access the buttons - it has nothing to do with any other aspects of the case itself, just that one area, beveled inward towards the volume/power buttons so the fingertips can reach the buttons as well as the fingerprint reader easier that a hard edge. Like this:
br0adband said:
I hope you understand that what I mean by making the area around the volume/power buttons beveled means it's sloped inward and down to make it easier to access the buttons - it has nothing to do with any other aspects of the case itself, just that one area, beveled inward towards the volume/power buttons so the fingertips can reach the buttons as well as the fingerprint reader easier that a hard edge. Like this:
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Yes I understand exactly what you mean.
Looking at the picture below of the obliq. Non beveled edges are preferred since I believe beveled edges would look distasteful and not look of the proper line thickness when compared to the other line elements of the design. In it's current state, the look is perfectly balanced and edges flow with all lines.
Add to that....If adding beveled edges...they would have to decide to what? The lens/buttons; buttons only; combine all three cutouts into one large beveled cross looking cutout (like what spigen and many others decided)? All the choices would have thrown off the balanced look of design.
Unfortunately, the companies that have implemented beveled edges are forced to include the laser, flash and sensor cutouts into one because of the limited clearance between them and the camera. Look at the picture below.
Here are the issues I have with beveled edges and the issues introduced by them with another case manufacturer that took that route..(1) beveled edges add visual cues that are wider(2x to 3x the thickness) than other lines of phone, (2) 3 cutouts combined into 1make it look like those ugly "tough cases" with huge design elements and (3) the gap between lens and sensors show the oem texture vs the case texture.
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I ordered this case from amazon prime. It was listed as prime shipping but took a good 10 days before delivery. Also, finger print scanner will not work for me with case installed. Tried to re-calibrate sensor and can't even get it to do that. The fit is nice and slim but pointless for me if fingerprint scanner does not work.
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You're overthinking that in the extremes, seriously.
The point being making the buttons easier to access and manipulate would be possible with a slightly beveled edge around the inner portion of that part of the case, it's not that difficult to grasp. No reason to bevel anything else on the case: not around the flash, not around the laser lens, not even around the camera housing itself, just that one small portion that makes the "U" shape surrounding the power and volume buttons.
If I get this case and a V10 I assure you I'll be taking a razor blade or X-Acto knife or even a scalpel and beveling out that "U" because it'll help.
br0adband said:
You're overthinking that in the extremes, seriously.
The point being making the buttons easier to access and manipulate would be possible with a slightly beveled edge around the inner portion of that part of the case, it's not that difficult to grasp. No reason to bevel anything else on the case: not around the flash, not around the laser lens, not even around the camera housing itself, just that one small portion that makes the "U" shape surrounding the power and volume buttons.
If I get this case and a V10 I assure you I'll be taking a razor blade or X-Acto knife or even a scalpel and beveling out that "U" because it'll help.
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I know. It's an ocd issue I have with analysis, software design and the review process. My work skills carry over to something simple as a insignificant case review.
By the way, the thought of modding with a scalpel kills me. Haha
atcjeff said:
I ordered this case from amazon prime. It was listed as prime shipping but took a good 10 days before delivery. Also, finger print scanner will not work for me with case installed. Tried to re-calibrate sensor and can't even get it to do that. The fit is nice and slim but pointless for me if fingerprint scanner does not work.
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To get the fingerprint scanner working be sure your finger makes contact with pad and the metal ring around pad.
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Btw, if anyone wants mine lmk pay me $5 aand keep it,didn't help me one bit
dinged said:
I know. It's an ocd issue I have with analysis, software design and the review process. My work skills carry over to something simple as a insignificant case review.
By the way, the thought of modding with a scalpel kills me. Haha
To get the fingerprint scanner working be sure your finger makes contact with pad and the metal ring around pad.
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I realize that, and no matter how many times I would try, it would not unlock. Take case off and it unlocks. Would not re-calibrate with case on either. I should mention I am on T-Mobile and no update for sensor
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New generation flagship smartphones are coming with a wide variety of different body materials used. Most commonly for the back or full body of a phone are Plastic, followed by Glass, Metal, Ceramics and Leather. Each material has its specific characteristics to meet requirements, from flexible, to hard, to scratch- resistant.
The launch of Samsung’s and OPPO’s new flagship devices showcasing differences of materials used for the phone’s back. Whereas the Galaxy S22 Ultra comes as Glass back (Corning Gorilla Glass Victus), the Find X5 Pro’s back is microcrystalline Ceramic.
Glass vs. Ceramics
The main difference between glass and ceramics is that glass is non-crystalline while ceramic is crystalline. Silicon dioxide is the main component of glass, while clay is the main component of ceramics. Each material characteristic reacts differently to heating; Ceramic shows a better behavior on high temperatures than glass, which plays out well for the overall device temperature.
Vickers Hardness Scale: Ceramic 1200-13000 HV, versus glass, which has a rating of 600-630 HV
Due its complexity in manufacturing and material hardness, the cost for material- and production of Ceramics is much higher compared to Glass.
A look at OPPO Find X5 Pro’s Ceramic Back:
It’s said that OPPO found inspiration for the design from nature in that “there are no straight lines or sharp corners in nature”, with the intention to create the back cover as gentle flow around the camera lenses in a “volcano-like” form.
The design itself isn’t the challenge, but the production out of ceramic due to the material complexity. The Find X5 Pro is made of microcrystalline hot-forged at 1,000-degrees Celsius, which results in a fingerprint-resistant texture while making it twice as strong as glass, allowing a better heat performance.
The point: Ceramic cannot be formed like glass, its size shrinks after calcining it making it extremely challenging to achieve the required dimensions. OPPO’s engineers have invented a process which sees the ceramic rear panel carved with over 2,000 individual control points used to create its seamlessly organic curves.
A perfectly machined, premium ceramic rear cover takes five whole days to produce, with a yield of 97% compared to 87%, a completely new four-axis polishing process refines the machined edges for a smoother finished look, enabling a precision of up to 0.005mm.
My takeaway
Personally, I never used a phone with Ceramic for long-term, but all different devices made of Plastic, Leather, and Glass. Where Glass intends to break easily when falling, plastic proved its flexibility and saved me many repair cycles already. The last ceramic phone I tested was Xiaomi’s Mi Mix 4 with Ceramic unibody. Overall I had a great experience, the handset’s appearance was lit. Seeing OPPO’s dedication to the design and materials used for Find X5 Pro, I believe that it's not just one of these specials that brings flagship device users the difference, but makes it more premium than any other smartphone.
What about you? Glass, Ceramic, Plastic.. What's your fav.?
In fact I favor Ceramic, it feels a bit more premium to me and the increased scratch resistance is a big benefit, especially for the resale value as I tend to change devices quite often....
Downside is: Ceramic is heavier than glass....
But I would not go that far and buy only "Ceramic" phones, just too many other aspects are more important for me in a smartphone and in most cases I use a case anyway
I was planning to buy the s22 plus, however there's no stock available. I'm learning more about this OPPO Find x5 Pro, design looks beatiful but how is the update policy?
Jelly Ace said:
S22 Ultra is 228g vs X5 Pro at 218g tho. Do you think the addtl weight could have been caused by something else other than material being glass?
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Yes, sure - there are so many other items within the phone having a big influence on weight (just bearing in mind the massive camera module of the S22U).
In fact I never found a comparison of a glass backplate to a ceramic one for a smartphone, so my comment on weight is rather a general one about the contribution of the corresponding backplate to the overall weight.
s3axel said:
In fact I favor Ceramic, it feels a bit more premium to me and the increased scratch resistance is a big benefit, especially for the resale value as I tend to change devices quite often....
Downside is: Ceramic is heavier than glass....
But I would not go that far and buy only "Ceramic" phones, just too many other aspects are more important for me in a smartphone and in most cases I use a case anyway
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Agree with the premium feel and the proven scratch resistance of ceramic. Personally, I would end up buying an Otterbox since I always fall asleep holding my phone. I mean, who doesn't use a case nowadays?
PDidelvey said:
I was planning to buy the s22 plus, however there's no stock available. I'm learning more about this OPPO Find x5 Pro, design looks beatiful but how is the update policy?
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OPPO's update policy for flagship is 4 years of security updates, and 3 major Android updates. Since it comes with ColorOS 12.1, you'd be good until about Android 15.
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8 days ago I gave the s22 ultra and the main reason was the problem it has with the gps. I was bored waiting for an upgrade to solve it. I bought the Oppo find x5 pro in white. If we exclude the s-pen and the brightness of the screen in all other parts the Oppo is equally good or even better. For me the biggest advantages are the battery standby, it is the incredible speed of the battery charge and finally the feeling in the hand. It is more comfortable in the hand. I did not expect it.
eddiedimitris said:
Good evening.
8 days ago I gave the s22 ultra and the main reason was the problem it has with the gps. I was bored waiting for an upgrade to solve it. I bought the Oppo find x5 pro in white. If we exclude the s-pen and the brightness of the screen in all other parts the Oppo is equally good or even better. For me the biggest advantages are the battery standby, it is the incredible speed of the battery charge and finally the feeling in the hand. It is more comfortable in the hand. I did not expect it.
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I thought it would have a fragile feel to it, or a feeling of luxury since it was ceramic and was thinking it be best to cover up in a sturdy case or otterbox to keep it from breaking. Was the feeling of comfort from the size, grip, or ceramic feel?
Se7enthSe7en said:
I thought it would have a fragile feel to it, or a feeling of luxury since it was ceramic and was thinking it be best to cover up in a sturdy case or otterbox to keep it from breaking. Was the feeling of comfort from the size, grip, or ceramic feel?
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I use case all the time so it is just the size that makes the good feel in the hand.Generally it reminds me huawei p30 pro which was really nice all around phone
I had an essential ph1 and it had a ceramic back with a titanium frame. That's my preference because it was built like a tank so I had little worry of going caseless. There's also something about the feel of ceramic were just by touching it you feel security and the premium quality that just doesn't apply to any other material.
mookiexl said:
I had an essential ph1 and it had a ceramic back with a titanium frame. That's my preference because it was built like a tank so I had little worry of going caseless. There's also something about the feel of ceramic were just by touching it you feel security and the premium quality that just doesn't apply to any other material.
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Technically, glass can also provide a premium quality, but I feel more secure with the ceramic as glass might break easily. Did you keep it caseless throughout your use? I'm a bit wary if I am not even using the silicon case.
Plastic back and sides/bezel. FAR more durable for drops and bumps. My old S3 and S4, and Note4 survived absolute hell at the hands of my friends' kids, as have my folks' S7 Actives.
Just about every glass phone ive seen has eventually had a busted screen or back...
Plastic constuction, removable battery, headphone jack and flat screens were IMO peak Samsung S/Note series, no stupid cases needed either.
Slade8525 said:
Plastic back and sides/bezel. FAR more durable for drops and bumps. My old S3 and S4, and Note4 survived absolute hell at the hands of my friends' kids, as have my folks' S7 Actives.
Just about every glass phone ive seen has eventually had a busted screen or back...
Plastic constuction, removable battery, headphone jack and flat screens were IMO peak Samsung S/Note series, no stupid cases needed either.
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Plastic is definitely a more sturdy option before they chose to explore other materials.
What did you think about the leather backed models?
Se7enthSe7en said:
Technically, glass can also provide a premium quality, but I feel more secure with the ceramic as glass might break easily. Did you keep it caseless throughout your use? I'm a bit wary if I am not even using the silicon case.
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I kept it caseless, used it off and on for a year and it still looked practically new when I parted ways with it.
Se7enthSe7en said:
Plastic is definitely a more sturdy option before they chose to explore other materials.
What did you think about the leather backed models?
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never owned one so i cant say, i dont feel like it belongs on a cell phone, for durability and thermals. just seems weird.
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I kept it caseless, used it off and on for a year and it still looked practically new when I parted ways with it.
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Always the best case scenario, especially for buyers of pre-loved devices.
I get surprised to see the color of my phone when it is out of the case especially because I always have a non-transparent case on.
Slade8525 said:
never owned one so i cant say, i dont feel like it belongs on a cell phone, for durability and thermals. just seems weird.
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Good point. I like it better as the texture for cases - tablets or phones. As the actual back of the phone, meh. I mean, how do you even clean it?
Se7enthSe7en said:
Good point. I like it better as the texture for cases - tablets or phones. As the actual back of the phone, meh. I mean, how do you even clean it?
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yep, cases its fine, i usually have a folding leather wallet case for travelling.
i guess it could work as a slim case, but built on, no thanks.
Leave leather for cases, it's a consumable item long term.
Ceramic backed phones FTW! I love my S10+ 1TB. The white ceramic reminds me of a toilet top! :-D And forget about worrying about breaking it when dropped! It is heavier though.
Se7enthSe7en said:
Always the best case scenario, especially for buyers of pre-loved devices.
I get surprised to see the color of my phone when it is out of the case especially because I always have a non-transparent case on.
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Phone colors do not really mean as much nowadays since you can always customize phone cases. I am always with an otterbox so I rarely see my phone's color. I mean how can you? I just always look at the screen and not the back.