A basic question and please some one confirm it to me
Suppose i made backup of my stock rom with CWM and load some custom rom.....then if i want my custom rom back...can i just restore it from CWM (from previously made backup) or do i need to flash a stock rom through RSD LITE and then restore my previous backup??
please someone who had tried it confirm me
PS: the reason why i am asking this is because i had seen different answers in different threads
It should revert back to stock if the backup backed up all system files.
So in short Yes it will work.
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I have been able to restore backups from different ROMs, and even using different recoveries. I have done that multiple times. However, after using an FXZ I almost always get the MD5 checksums mismatch message. Don't just take my word for it, though, as I'm not a developer. That has just been my own personal experience.
It does seem to vary though because I've read different posts that say different things as well. Maybe someone else will chime in....
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1BadWolf said:
I have been able to restore backups from different ROMs, and even using different recoveries. I have done that multiple times. However, after using an FXZ I almost always get the MD5 checksums mismatch message. Don't just take my word for it, though, as I'm not a developer. That has just been my own personal experience.
It does seem to vary though because I've read different posts that say different things as well. Maybe someone else will chime in....
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so u are telling that just restore from backup is enough than flashing an FXZ from RSD LITE right??
The same is the case to restore stock rom from a custom rom right??(as per u r experience)
vdpraneeth said:
so u are telling that just restore from backup is enough than flashing an FXZ from RSD LITE right??
The same is the case to restore stock rom from a custom rom right??(as per u r experience)
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You can restore a backup of the stock ROM, but it would not be 100% stock because it would at least have to be rooted and have a custom recovery installed. If you want 100% stock then you'll want to use the appropriate FXZ.
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You can restore a backup of the stock ROM, but it would not be 100% stock because it would at least have to be rooted and have a custom recovery installed. If you want 100% stock then you'll want to use the appropriate FXZ.
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So by stock I was assuming you still wanted root and a custom recovery.
Correct?
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GlitchedSoul said:
So by stock I was assuming you still wanted root and a custom recovery.
Correct?
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Are you asking me or vdpraneeth?
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Are you asking me or vdpraneeth?
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Vdpraneeth
I was just making sure both were read.
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Vdpraneeth
I was just making sure both were read.
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hey tried it ...my answer to this question is yes....we can restore to stock through backup(i mean stock which has root and CWM installed)..
actually i tried this on my micromax funbook...it was successful...so i guess the same with Atrix 2 too
vdpraneeth said:
hey tried it ...my answer to this question is yes....we can restore to stock through backup(i mean stock which has root and CWM installed)..
actually i tried this on my micromax funbook...it was successful...so i guess the same with Atrix 2 too
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It should
I mean its pretty much as flashing a ROM that has your personal information on it.
Glad I could help
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I just got a galaxy s 4g and trying to research how to root my phone. but i cant seem to find anything. Can anyone point me the right direction??
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1470716
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There's also the Wiki...
@nativesmiley:
The Wiki will also help you... going forward. That should always be your first step... before posting a question. You will learn much.
@lumin30:
That is an excellent post and I have thanked you for it as well. Would you, please, please, please, re-formulate into a page within the Wiki??
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@lumin30:
That is an excellent post and I have thanked you for it as well. Would you, please, please, please, re-formulate into a page within the Wiki??
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Thanks! I will work on that for us.
Lumin
Told you it's wikiable.
my phone well not boot up. it just stays at the Galaxy S 4g logo. i can not get back into CWM. help!
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my phone well not boot up. it just stays at the Galaxy S 4g logo. i can not get back into CWM. help!
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What method are you using... and are you being impatient?
And what have you done so far... if you want help you need to provide details.
i am trying to reflash a rom or get into CWM. i press the up+down & power button and it just stays at the screen. but i can get into download mode though
i have flashed multiple roms already and my phone was already rooted before. i wanted to get back to stock and i restored from backup and thats when this happened. so im kinda of lost when u say "what method"...sorry!
You restored from back up... what ROM/Kernel were you on when you made the back up? And what ROM/Kernel were you on when you tried to restore?
Add: You were trying to root in your first post and now you are flashing... that is why I was asking what method. CWM/ODIN/Heimdall....
i was on the stock everything when i made the backup, that was before i flashed my first rom. and i was on the "{rom}Cwm-GB-2.3.6-Octane-V3.0 XPLOD NO CIQ EDITION 12-10-11 now with power menu mod" when i tired to restore. i use the CWM on my first flashed of rom.
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i was on the stock everything when i made the backup, that was before i flashed my first rom. and i was on the "{rom}Cwm-GB-2.3.6-Octane-V3.0 XPLOD NO CIQ EDITION 12-10-11 now with power menu mod" when i tired to restore. i use the CWM on my first flashed of rom.
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Stock GB? Stock GB doesn't have CWM to make a nandroid back up. How did you make the back up?
If your phone will turn on, regardless on it's state, you can more than likely flash stock through ODIN or Heimdall. I read most people have problems restoring nandroid backups.
ROM-ODIN-2.3.6-Gingerbread Offical
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i was on stock "everything" when i did the backup and when i was on "{rom}Cwm-GB-2.3.6-Octane-V3.0 XPLOD NO CIQ EDITION 12-10-11 now with power menu mod" when i tried to restore. i flashed my first rom with CWM.
Ok... I guess. You were on Stock everything and had CWM?
Use ODIN or Heimdall and flash back to stock.
i did the backup from CWM. i was already rooted when i did the backup, i just didnt have a custom rom at the time. what is the best method? heimdall or odin?
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i did the backup from CWM. i was already rooted when i did the backup, i just didnt have a custom rom at the time. what is the best method? heimdall or odin?
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I guess what I am trying to tell you is... if you had CWM you could not have been on stock everything. CWM comes with a custom kernel you flashed. That is the only way to have CWM. That is why I was trying to determine what CWM you were in. Because nandroid backups/restores are not compatible with in different versions of CWM.
You are in a bootloop.
I use ODIN. Others use Heimdall. I prefer ODIN. Others say Heimdall is easy. If you have used either before, use the one you already have on your machine. If you haven't used either before, read how to use both and pick the one you think you can do without messing up your phone.
Here is thread about kernels and CWM and the very last post says it all.
okay. thanks man. i appreciate it
Just a quick question to double check.. I rooted my atrix 2 and installed CWM and took backup of my phone thru it. So two questions:
1.} Now to install custom rom, what should i do? directly now download and install thru cwm or need to flash any other thing?
2.} I accedently changed my stock battery icon thru rom toolbox pro and when i restore my stock rom thru cwm it says md5 check failed.. What should i do?
To install a Custom Rom only need access to CWM Recovery, and follow the installation steps of the Rom you choose, as there are two forms, one is restored and the other is flashing, so you should read the instructions.
thanks buddy!
I did not use rsd or did not flash fast bootfiles, are these necessary for installing custom rom? I guess not i am trying custom roms now..
And what abt the second question?
Sedariya11 said:
thanks buddy!
I did not use rsd or did not flash fast bootfiles, are these necessary for installing custom rom? I guess not i am trying custom roms now..
And what abt the second question?
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No rsd and fastboot files are for flashing back to stock in the case of u messing up your phone (soft brick or bootloop)
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thanks buddy!
I did not use rsd or did not flash fast bootfiles, are these necessary for installing custom rom? I guess not i am trying custom roms now..
And what abt the second question?
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for restoring. do a few things. first, make a backup right now and try to restore it right away. If that works, something went wrong with your old one. you can open up the nandroid.md5 file within the backup folder and delete everything, that will make it restore, but it could cause some issues if it really was broken. Or it could not even boot, but that is what the fxz is for.
If it also fails, most likely there is something wrong with your sdcard. that happened to me. try formatting it WITH THE PHONE (backup anything that you need to since it will be wiped). if it fails both times the backups are most likely fine, so just delete everything in the nandroid.md5 file and do it. Keep in mind it may still have issues so be familiar with the stock restoring process just in case.
As always, i don't take responsibility for anything that happens.
Quick noob question - I want to try CM10, and I'm on stock now. If I make a backup from TRWP, will I be able to just restore it, if I want to go back, or I'll have to flash the stock JB kernel also. Sorry, but I don't have much experience with HTCs, which seem too much complicated for me :silly:
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Quick noob question - I want to try CM10, and I'm on stock now. If I make a backup from TRWP, will I be able to just restore it, if I want to go back, or I'll have to flash the stock JB kernel also. Sorry, but I don't have much experience with HTCs, which seem too much complicated for me :silly:
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You can just restore it with the exception of the kernel. You'll have to flash the kernel with fastboot if you are on Hboot 1.13 and beyond.
Thanks mate. So I restore the backup and flash the kernel, right?
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hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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hi,i am using stock rom running 4.0.4,i had it rooted too and now i had two queries
1)Is rom manager compatible with Atrix 2??
im asking this because when i open it, it shows u need to install CWM recovery...but no option in that responds...not even intall cwm (1st option in menu)....so i installed CWM using atrix boot strapper app and now still rom manager is not detecting CWM..please help
2)after installing CWM, i had backup my present stock rom..so if i flash a new rom now will that CWM and back up still exist??(because we will wipe data which will remove everyhting right??)
for suppose if i flash jelly bean rom and if i dont like it...can i restore my previous stock rom without bricking my device??
thanks for u r help
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
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1) Rom manager is not compatible with Atrix 2. I would not use it. Why do you need it anyway??
You can use Atrix Bootstrapper to go into CWM recovery . Rest can be done there. Or you can use Boot Menu Manager.
2)Of course! it will still be there! the backup is saved on your SD Card. So as long as you don't format your SD Card. It will be there.
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2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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No, your Recovery will be wiped after you flash a new rom, but you can install it again and restore your ROM.
But when restoring a rom, make sure you ARE ON THE ROM you are restoring.
E.g. If you flash JB and want Stock ICS back with your backup. First flash the Stock ICS from RSD and then restore your backup from CWM on it.
Or Vice-Versa.
@41rw4lk, Thanks for rectifying that. I did not bother with Rom Manager much.
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but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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Rom Manager does work with Atrix2. If you're on Stock ICS, you can install CWM on every boot, then flash the Bionic recovery through Rom Manager. That will allow you to use the 1 touch backup in RM, just hit backup rom and everything does what it's supposed to.
Here is the CWM on every boot for Stock ICS.
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how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
vdpraneeth said:
2)will the CWM recovery exist after flashing new rom or i need to install it again??
when i restore to stock fom JB, it means downgrading the firmware right??
so will there be a chance of bricking or is it same to restore anytime from any version??
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I don't think any recovery exist after flashing a new rom. We have a locked bootloader, so we can't replace the stock recovery.img, all of our recoveries hijack the boot process to work. CM10 and PA I believe have a built in recovery, and that's about as close as you'll get to having a recovery exist after flashing a rom.
As far as restoring from JB, I believe you can downgrade to ICS, but you'll have to look at the JB thread to be certain. I'm on AT&T so I haven't had an opportunity to try JB (officially). CM10 is based on JB, but for our phone with the locked bootloader, it's more of a pseudo experience and is based on our ICS framework.
As for bricking, there is always a chance to brick, that's part of the mod game, but if you read and pay attention to what you have and what you're doing, you'll be alright.
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but downgrading to stock ICS from JB will brick my mobile right??
is there any problem if im not on the rom im restoring??
(im a newbie and i dont know much..even not found these after searching a lot..thats the reason im asking all these)
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UNLESS you have AT&T phone you should be just fine with ref lashing the ICS.
YES. there is a big problem if you are not on a ROM you are restoring.
Its like you are trying to comlete your jigsaw puzzle by putting pieces from some another jigsaw puzzle.
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how is it possible to flash bionic recovery through RM...all the menu options are disabled for me there even after CWM installed through bootstrap
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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You need to use the CWM on every boot setup, the Atrix2Bootstrap alone won't do.
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yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
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yes...my phone is an AT&T version...though im using it with IDEA.....
so if i install CWM on every boot,then rom manager will detect it and work right??
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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Yes. I will say though, if you're on an AT&T branded phone with AT&T firmware, do NOT try to flash the new JB FXZ. It doesn't matter who your carrier is, it matters what firmware your phone is using. So, if you're on AT&T then you need to make sure that the things you flash are for AT&T, or else you will brick and that will be then end of that.
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thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
vdpraneeth said:
thanks a lot...
what are the ROMS avaialble for us???
can i reflash stock ICS from any of those ROMS safely??
thank you
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CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
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CM10
PA
Numa
MIUI (had battery issues, but I think they got it all worked out)
there's a few, you'll just have to look. Most of the time, if something is not meant for AT&T, the devs will post in the description that it isn't compatible. If you want stock ICS back at anytime, you can do yourself a favor and make a backup of your stock ICS all setup the way you like it, so you can restore if needed. If all else fails, there is an Official ICS FXZ that will get you back to stock ICS.
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my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
vdpraneeth said:
my main question is :
will downgrade to ICS cause brick??
how do i create my own backup for stock ICS??
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You're killing me smalls. You're on ICS already, you're not downgrading anything, nor can you downgrade ie. Gingerbread. There is no Official JB for AT&T, so that's not an issue. CM10 is a JB based rom built on an ICS frame, (for our phone at least), and again, you're not downgrading.
To make a back up, boot in to CWM or whatever recovery you're using (not stock), and click backup. You might hit up the noob thread to get an idea of the terminology and basics for our device. Not trying to be rude, but you're running yourself in circles. You got to walk before you can run.
I've looked all over this forum and I hope that I can get a definitive answer here. I don't feel like my use case is that unique but I'm going to be as specific as possible and hopefully get as concise and complete an answer as possible.
Until recently, I was running a custom GB-based ROM. When I was running GB, I used the Atrix 2 Bootstrapper and RAZR-CWM-Recovery-on-boot-J.Y.Daddy (or whatever it's called) to get CWM Recovery on boot and make backups and so on.
I ran the return to stock script from my GB ROM and am now running the stock ICS ROM that I got from the official OTA upgrade from AT&T. I've obviously rooted it.
I want to make a backup of my current stock rooted ROM with CWM Recovery. To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade. I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
If the simple solution is not possible and the only solution is to install Numa or Paranoid or the unofficial CM ROM, that's fine, I'd just like to know.
Thanks in advance.
My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
That should be good to restore with other recoveries.. Plus you can uninstall BMM and don't need to multi-boot..
But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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But, wait, I thought the old a2 bootstrapper worked fine on ics...?
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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I actually haven't tried it yet, that's just the general "feeling" I got from what I had read thus far. I was up super late last night fixing three or four soft bricks before I got my phone to a working state again and now I'm taking the cautious route. The bootstrapper doesn't count as a custom recovery, though, for the purposes of creating a backup with CWM Recovery, right? As in I'll still need to find a custom recovery to run a backup.
That is, of course, assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now. I suppose I had planned to go with a custom ROM eventually anyway, probably Numa, or maybe the CM ROM (if it gets a little more stable here pretty quickly, I suppose).
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
Thanks for the reply.
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why not multi boot using BMM? checkout Numa, it has all the stock ICS goodness but debloated and much faster. see for urself
i'm using it and its much better than ICS stock
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To my knowledge, the old bootstrapper method does not work on the official ICS OTA upgrade.
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The bootstrapper does work with ICS.
I don't want to multi-boot with BMM, I just want a custom recovery so I can run CWM Recovery to backup/restore/possibly flash a new ROM.
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Well apart from bootstrapper and BMM we don't have any other custom recovery for Atrix 2.
I know that most of the new ROMs include their own custom backup, but that leaves me with no way to get back to the new stock ICS ROM (to my knowledge, I may be wrong).
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Well there's always the fxz way
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My advice would be to just use BMM from the play store, edit the recovery.fstab as shown in that thread.. And make a backup with that.. Use tar format I think (if there's a choice - sorry I have not made a backup on this phone in a while).
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Yup as altered said.But from my understanding you don't want to multi-boot right? Then you don't need to edit recovery.fstb.Just install it from play store install the hijacks and make a backup(in tar format preferably you'll find the option in there)
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that is assuming I don't just use BMM to take my backup now.
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I really don't see logically why would you be so hell bent to avoid BMM.
I'm pretty pleased with the stock ICS ROM over my old custom GB ROM (SCv6), which is why I'm now circumspect about trying out a new custom ROM without having a way to easily get back to where I am now (because I lost my backups the first time, like an idiot).
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You can do two things:
1.Install BMM make a backup of your current system.Install the custom ROM you want.Restore whenever you feel like.
2.Install BMM.Edit recovery.fstb(don't go after the name you just have to edit some text).Leave your current system on system 1.Install any ROM you like on system 3 and/or above.No need to restore.Switch between your choice of system whenever you wish.
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