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Sorry for the false alarm fokes.
I'm going to just tough this one and keep it. If I have bluetooth problems...so be it. Compared to the entire phone quality....it might be worth the sacrifice.
Thanks again dysolve and benjimen!!!
why not wait for the htc rom release? I have had my TC for three months and every issue I have had seems to have been fixed with rom upgrades
You might want to word your sales pitch a bit differently
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Well, I have had it with this TC. I have tried flashing a new Radio, tried Murata's ( I didnt try a new ROM cause I dont think it will make much difference). I purchased a new bluetooth headset.
And nothing has worked to stop the choppiness and static to my headset. I'm convinced now that it is a hardware problem. Its not that it doesnt work but it is just annoying. Maybe it is probably the phone size and the antenna isnt as big....whatever the case I'm done.
I'm selling this damn thing.
So before I post online....I thought I might offer it to anyone interested in buying it here.
If you need pics I will post.....I will through it up for $450.00
BTW...purchased it three weeks ago so its still damn near new!!!!
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Your right benjimen, I guess if I want to get rid of it, I shouldnt let my frustration destroy a potential sale. Thanks for the advice.
dysolve thanks for the reply. I have done so much, outside of ROM flash. Have you had the problem I am experiencing? If so, how did you fix it?
There are to many ROM's on this forum, and I havent found a ROM that might address my particular bluetooth fix. I'm certain HTC pushed out some crappy roms but I'm not sure if this is a ROM problem or an hardware problem.
Besides, I'm trying to find this one post that has a list of all the available ROMs to see if the OS I'm using in there. But I cant locate it anywhere.
Thought I'd share this with you guys. I recommend sending out a similar email so that they know that there are serious concerns about the phone. I did it online at the Contact Us page on the Samsung website.
Here's what I wrote:
Hello,
I recently purchased a Samsung Captivate. Overall, I am quite pleased with the device. However, there are a few things that irritate me about it that I was hoping you could comment on:
1.) There is a serious lag issue. Do a quick google search and you'll find that this is a universal problem with the phone.
2.) The GPS does not work. Also a universal issue.
3.) No 2.2 Froyo.
4.) No last.fm scrobbling support for the default music player (which I love by the way!)
5.) Drivers for Windows 7 x64 do not work well. After a lot of trial and error, I finally got it. Again, a universal issue.
A lot of people complain about the TouchWiz UI, but I personally enjoy it, as long as the lag issue is taken care of. Also I'm pleased with the phone call quality, and almost all other aspects of the phone.
I appreciate your time, and hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you,
[thecoolestcow]
Here is the response:
Dear [thecoolestcow],
Thank you for your inquiry.
Regarding the GPS on the phone, Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible.
We advise you to use assisted GPS powered by your service provider.
We still don't have any update regarding the release of the Android 2.2 for the Captivate and the drivers that will be compatible with Windows 7 64bit.
We will forward your report of this behavior along to the appropriate parties for additional review and consideration.
We are unable to speculate when/if this software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center.
Please feel free to check back with us periodically for updates.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
Thank you for choosing Samsung.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
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Thought I'd share this with you guys. I recommend sending out a similar email so that they know that there are serious concerns about the phone. I did it online at the Contact Us page on the Samsung website.
Here's what I wrote:
Hello,
I recently purchased a Samsung Captivate. Overall, I am quite pleased with the device. However, there are a few things that irritate me about it that I was hoping you could comment on:
1.) There is a serious lag issue. Do a quick google search and you'll find that this is a universal problem with the phone.
2.) The GPS does not work. Also a universal issue.
3.) No 2.2 Froyo.
4.) No last.fm scrobbling support for the default music player (which I love by the way!)
5.) Drivers for Windows 7 x64 do not work well. After a lot of trial and error, I finally got it. Again, a universal issue.
A lot of people complain about the TouchWiz UI, but I personally enjoy it, as long as the lag issue is taken care of. Also I'm pleased with the phone call quality, and almost all other aspects of the phone.
I appreciate your time, and hope to hear from you soon.
Thank you,
[thecoolestcow]
Here is the response:
Dear [thecoolestcow],
Thank you for your inquiry.
Regarding the GPS on the phone, Samsung Mobile is aware that under certain conditions, the GPS on our U.S. Galaxy S devices may not be meeting performance expectations. We are diligently evaluating the situation and will provide an update as soon as possible.
We advise you to use assisted GPS powered by your service provider.
We still don't have any update regarding the release of the Android 2.2 for the Captivate and the drivers that will be compatible with Windows 7 64bit.
We will forward your report of this behavior along to the appropriate parties for additional review and consideration.
We are unable to speculate when/if this software revision might be available due to the fact that this might lead to inaccurate information and confusion.
Should this become available, it will be posted on our website in the Samsung Download Center.
Please feel free to check back with us periodically for updates.
Should you desire additional assistance resolving this, we invite you to call Samsung Customer Support by phone at our toll free number 1-888-987-4357 between the hours 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, and 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, Central Standard Time.
Thank you for choosing Samsung.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
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man I just dont see this lag yall are talking about... Had the phone since day 1, no lag fix and its fast as my n1 on 2.2. about.. Wierd...
Also GPS does work, just not reliably all the time, some works fine, others not, others sometimes.. So saying it dont work is exadurating. I just dont want people that dont have one think that the GPS dont work. It does and I use it everyday without issue. No fixes or anything, mine and some others works...
2.2 froyo will be here soon. Hold your horses on and it will be here next month I will bet...
I didn't see the lag either for a while, but I see it in most of the Samsung native apps, like Messaging and the screen unlock.
GPS also used to work amazingly. It just stopped completely now for me.
It's good though that they acknowledged in the email that they were going to release a fix for it.
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I didn't see the lag either for a while, but I see it in most of the Samsung native apps, like Messaging and the screen unlock.
GPS also used to work amazingly. It just stopped completely now for me.
It's good though that they acknowledged in the email that they were going to release a fix for it.
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Yea, Well Im certain it will be fixed. The samsung epic 4g is rumored to have a working GPS (more testing needs done for me to believe it for sure) and if we have the same hardware gps wise as the Epic 4g we should definatly see a fix...
Nice, Engadget confirms.
engadget.com/2010/08/18/samsung-says-gps-is-tested-and-validated-on-epic-4g-our-testi/
There is most certainly lag. Like you guys, it wasn't a big deal until I saw the lag fix.
Long story short, I've been running the lag fix about a week, then borked my phone with another tweak and had to revert back to stock. HOLY COW was that thing slow... I never really knew any different until I had seen greener pastures
I will say I don't think the DEFAULT lag is worse than any other phone on the market. But it is capable of much, much faster.
Also you forgot to include the complaint that MMS doesn't work on EDGE, only 3G.
TexUs said:
There is most certainly lag. Like you guys, it wasn't a big deal until I saw the lag fix.
Long story short, I've been running the lag fix about a week, then borked my phone with another tweak and had to revert back to stock. HOLY COW was that thing slow... I never really knew any different until I had seen greener pastures
I will say I don't think the DEFAULT lag is worse than any other phone on the market. But it is capable of much, much faster.
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Which lag fix did you use? I saw several. I haven't rooted my device yet because I'm a little girl. I'm trying to gather as much info as possible first.
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Which lag fix did you use? I saw several. I haven't rooted my device yet because I'm a little girl. I'm trying to gather as much info as possible first.
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Well I did all my tweaks manually the first time. However when I borked and started over I used this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
That will do all necessary tweaks at once. Just download the update.zip file to the root of your INTERNAL card, reboot into recovery mode (ask if you don't know how... easiest way is to use ADB), and select "reinstall packages" and you're done.
Just check the post I linked to, but it'll remove all the ATT crapware, remove the loud startup sounds, install root, block ads, etc.
After it's ran you then can go into the app it adds and run the lag fix... After you run that script it needs a reboot... And then you've got a lag fixed phone that runs twice as fast. ROM Manager, for instance, takes like a whole freaking minute it seems to open un-lag-fixed. Lag-fixed it takes several seconds max.
TexUs said:
Well I did all my tweaks manually the first time. However when I borked and started over I used this: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
That will do all necessary tweaks at once. Just download the update.zip file to the root of your INTERNAL card, reboot into recovery mode (ask if you don't know how... easiest way is to use ADB), and select "reinstall packages" and you're done.
Just check the post I linked to, but it'll remove all the ATT crapware, remove the loud startup sounds, install root, block ads, etc.
After it's ran you then can go into the app it adds and run the lag fix.
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Holy crap, how did I miss that one? Excellent, thank you. I will likely be doing that in the near future!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
thecoolestcow said:
Holy crap, how did I miss that one? Excellent, thank you. I will likely be doing that in the near future!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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NP.
I'm happy with 2.1 right now... I mean the Captivate at 2.1 runs faster than anything else on the market, including the N1 2.2......
So I can live with 2.1 until Samsung releases 2.2
Once you see how much faster it is with the lag fix, you'll start to wonder how much faster 2.2 will be. The Captivate will be untouchable.
There is definitely significant lag on the stock firmware - most notably for me with the marketplace but s also for some other apps when they are loading data. I haven't applied any fixes yet as I'm waiting for a decent firmware update before I do too much with my phone.
JH2/3 are looking like good bets, but I would suspect that an official firmware is right around the corner given the few changes between JH2 and JH3.
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Why wait? It takes 5 minutes to vastly improve the usability of your phone.
And worst comes to worst, you use the Odin3 one-click to restore it to stock. Seems pretty awesome. I'll probably be "super-rooting" tonight!
Also to note you should only be doing that super-rooting from stock to start with... It's the most reliable method anyway. You can try it from what you've got but- if there's issues you just need to do it from stock.
Hm. And there's no way to back up my apps/data right?
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Hm. And there's no way to back up my apps/data right?
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Yes, download ROM Manager but you need to be rooted first I think... So you can root your phone only (same process but it just does rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725555), download/install ROM Manager (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=734163). Then when you reboot into the ROM Manager recovery screen there's nandroid backup utility that'll back up everything.
If you like selective backups of stuff you can also use Titanium Backup (also requires root).
smashpunks said:
man I just dont see this lag yall are talking about... Had the phone since day 1, no lag fix and its fast as my n1 on 2.2. about.. Wierd...
Also GPS does work, just not reliably all the time, some works fine, others not, others sometimes.. So saying it dont work is exadurating. I just dont want people that dont have one think that the GPS dont work. It does and I use it everyday without issue. No fixes or anything, mine and some others works...
2.2 froyo will be here soon. Hold your horses on and it will be here next month I will bet...
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GPS does NOT work. It barely functions, so it does not work. Anybody that says it does is just trying fool themselves into thinking they didnt make a mistake. GPS absolutely does not work. Its been documented by numerous sources and tens of thousands (or more) vibrant and captivate users here in the US. For Christ's sake, even Samsung has admitted that it doesnt work. They've used incorrect drivers from Broadcom, so it can't possibly work.
Samsung may release Froyo to the carriers toward the end of next month, but it'll be quite a while before AT&T releases it to us. They have to go through and add all their crapware and remove any functionality that's in the stock rom that they can charge money for (this really pisses me off I REALLY, want that wifi hotspot functionality!!!) and they have to cripple the kernel and radio so there'll be no HSUPA.
derek4484 said:
GPS does NOT work. It barely functions, so it does not work. Anybody that says it does is just trying fool themselves into thinking they didnt make a mistake. GPS absolutely does not work. Its been documented by numerous sources and tens of thousands (or more) vibrant and captivate users here in the US. For Christ's sake, even Samsung has admitted that it doesnt work. They've used incorrect drivers from Broadcom, so it can't possibly work.
Samsung may release Froyo to the carriers toward the end of next month, but it'll be quite a while before AT&T releases it to us. They have to go through and add all their crapware and remove any functionality that's in the stock rom that they can charge money for (this really pisses me off I REALLY, want that wifi hotspot functionality!!!) and they have to cripple the kernel and radio so there'll be no HSUPA.
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We're about a month after release and have Vanilla Android 2.1 ROMs, so chill out. Have some patience, I'm sure we'll see them for 2.2 as well.
derek4484 said:
GPS does NOT work. It barely functions, so it does not work. Anybody that says it does is just trying fool themselves into thinking they didnt make a mistake. GPS absolutely does not work. Its been documented by numerous sources and tens of thousands (or more) vibrant and captivate users here in the US. For Christ's sake, even Samsung has admitted that it doesnt work. They've used incorrect drivers from Broadcom, so it can't possibly work.
Samsung may release Froyo to the carriers toward the end of next month, but it'll be quite a while before AT&T releases it to us. They have to go through and add all their crapware and remove any functionality that's in the stock rom that they can charge money for (this really pisses me off I REALLY, want that wifi hotspot functionality!!!) and they have to cripple the kernel and radio so there'll be no HSUPA.
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Mine works and so do others in those thousands of people threads. If you would like I can copy n paste them for ya...
Its directed me to many places perfectly so it works, its just unreliable and not the best, hence needs to be optimized ...
now post a link where samsung admitted using incorrect drivers? I've never saw that...
Every time I try to luck I just get "your location is temporarily unavaible"
Jh7 rooted with unleash the beast.
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Weird. This seems to be a completely new problem that no one else has experienced.
In all seriousness, the entire galaxy s line of phones have crappy gps software/hardware. There is a fix coming. Maybe.
yungstar89 said:
Weird. This seems to be a completely new problem that no one else has experienced.
In all seriousness, the entire galaxy s line of phones have crappy gps software/hardware. There is a fix coming. Maybe.
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I've had extremely slow gps and such, but never had it completely not work
Yeah, welcome to the same problem we've all had. Sometimes it "works" other times it's completely useless. I will say that with Froyo it is much better but still not perfect. During my first test I was driving down a major highway, all of a sudden it told me I had gotten off an exit and tried to route me back onto the highway. Mind you I never moved lanes the whole time. Just off by a hundred feet or so.
I lost the GPS ability after I rooted the Froyo 2.2
In another thread, I was told it has nothing to do with rooting..hence I started to google the problem and found the old codes to get to lbstestmode....nothing to get to it with Froyo....so as of now I am SOL
Just sharing since it might be helpful to others
Regards
Roism said:
I lost the GPS ability after I rooted the Froyo 2.2
In another thread, I was told it has nothing to do with rooting..hence I started to google the problem and found the old codes to get to lbstestmode....nothing to get to it with Froyo....so as of now I am SOL
Just sharing since it might be helpful to others
Regards
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How is this possible? Couldn't you just flash back to stock?
I am newbie to the whole process of android, so when you say "flash back to stock", would you mind sharing the process or a link that I may utilize
I did reload the froyo and tried accessing GPS but no luck, then i rooted it again but same problem
Thank you
Regards,
I don't even own the phone yet. I've just been compulsively reading these forums looking for a fix for the GPS and trying to learn a bunch of stuff before I get the phone.
Mainly, I've been waiting for a GPS fix, though.
I'm not sure if this applies to rooting and modifying your firmware. This could just delete all apps and settings: http://sefanboy.com/2010/07/09/sams...tion-to-restore-the-galaxy-s-factory-setting/
This looks more promising: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
It looks like you would need to get the original samsung firmware and use rom manager to restore that firmware then you can use the above XDA link to un-root your device.
BE WARNED: I do not own and have never owned an Android phone (yet ) and have never rooted, unrooted or flashed firmware. Therefore, these instructions could be outdated and I would have no way of knowing. So follow these at your own risk.
This looks reputable, it's from DesignGears.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Roism said:
I lost the GPS ability after I rooted the Froyo 2.2
In another thread, I was told it has nothing to do with rooting..hence I started to google the problem and found the old codes to get to lbstestmode....nothing to get to it with Froyo....so as of now I am SOL
Just sharing since it might be helpful to others
Regards
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There is a market app called lbstestmode that will get you into it in froyo. Also, there is a direct code you can dial to get in as well in froyo, its just a different code. I do not know it right off but search around, its been posted many times.
I'm having a similar issue all of the sudden. My GPS has always 'worked' (to the extent that it could find a lock despite not being able to keep it), until about 4 days ago, when it just stopped finding a lock altogether. Now I'm lucky if I can view 3 sats and it never locks on to any of them. I spent all this time cursing the GPS because it was not great, now I just want it to work a little so I can at least find myself on a map!
I am not sure how many of you know, but if you properly flash the new Cognition 5.5 and do not mess with the GPS settings it works flawlessly. I myself used to have the same issues with my GPS constantly telling me to go the wrong way, losing my lock or just not locking at all. Now I am consistently locking onto 8 Sats inside my home and 11 out side and in my car. I have done road tests which have all passed with flying colors. Also, I know some of you stated you lost the option for LBS test mode if you have flashed Cognition 5.5, all you have to do is go to the market and download LBS test mode launcher. It is a shortcut to LBS that is an app and works great!
Good luck to all of you!
I was able to resolve my issue of not locking up
I had created a thread under general captivate category under the heading
"How to access LBSTESTMODE in Froyo?", so if anyone had similar issue to mine instead of OP's please do check it out
Regards
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
Neoprimal said:
Hey all,
I'm getting my G Tablet tomorrow and I'd just like to get some things clarified.
I know, the first thing some will say is USE SEARCH! Well, I did - and that's actually why I just want to get some things straight before I go down the path of modifying the device software. See, reading it all has managed to confuse me more than help me get a definitive instruction set for forging ahead.
I'm seeing the update "****s on CWM" according to a user...and then a 'fix' for that. Than I see that Gapps causes FCs for some, while it works for others. So...yeah, a little back and forth on what to do and who's instructions to follow.
Alright, so first thing's first....Should I flash the Clockwork Mod that I'm seeing available - 0.8? or is there something else I should consider or that I've missed? or maybe wait for a newer version? Should I even flash CWM if I get the newest (and I WILL be getting the newest) S/W version? Are there any downsides at all to flashing CWM on there in terms of messing with OTA updates, etc?
I read this:
"All the ROMS use a standard firmware updater that can be used by non-technical users. Here is an explanation on how it works:...."
Sooo, does that mean I can live without CWM? If an update doesn't work for some reason, will I be able to fix it or overwrite it somehow if I can't get into the tablet at all from the tablet itself? I read something about going into APX mode and putting things on through Windows, is this an infallible method?
Second of all, I read the FAQ thoroughly (I think and hope) but I'm still not 100% on what Gapps to DL or how to put a working Android Market on there especially with this new S/W update. I've seen how to 'fix' the Market to see missing apps, but not how to actually install it on the G Tablet. I may have missed that post somewhere on here.
I'm also unclear if I should get Gapps or not at all, as I've read that some have FCs on there while others do not - so what's the general consensus in light of this update that was just released as of Dec. 21, 2010?
Ultimately, here is what I'd like from my GTab:
I'd like to run the new official Tapn'Tap released recently first and foremost.
I'd like to have the official/unofficial (w/e) Google Market.
I'd like to run Google Apps (Gtalk, Gmail, etc.).
IF I don't like Tapn'Tap, and this is a worse case scenario situation, as in if I HATE TnT - I'd like to have the option to slap something else on there and I'd like to make sure I don't brick my Tablet. Whether that means storing an original official TnT ROM or whatever.
Point me in the right direction please, especially considering things may have changed as of the new S/W update.
Thanks much and sorry for all the questions. I assure you I used search and I attempted to put it together on my own. It's been a long time since I've modded (G1 was the last time) and I don't do it often. Also, apologies if I posted this in the wrong section....I considered posting it in Dev. section but this one seemed better suited.
Thanks again, XDA rocks.
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I don't know how much direction pointing I can do but here goes..
Clockwork mod in my opinion is a necessity. Version 0.8 is the best one for most people because of how it deals with the memory locations. Yes, you can do things without it. The update process is as simple as putting an update.zip file, and a recovery folder with a command file in it on an sdcard and holding the vol + button while hitting power. It is easy. Clockwork has a lot of little features though that make life easier. You can make a complete system backup with it. You can install updates, and new firmware with it. You can completely lock up your tablet and using clockwork and your backup be back in business in about 3-4 minutes. You can load new roms and if you hate them you can go back to your old working stuff in minutes. Yes, there are ways to make one of these tablets work again when they get stuck. I don't think anyone has actually bricked one. Some may think they have, but I doubt it.
Unless you are dead set on wanting the stock TnT interface the easiest way to get what you want is to load one of the roms. Yes, there are ways to get most of it without loading a new rom. Most everyone that has gone the I have to stay stock but want all the mods has eventually just loaded a rom. TnT3.0 is based on the latest stock stuff. It has the market, flash, etc. already in it. VegaN is what I use mostly but they are both stable and fast.
Before you flash something brand new that just came out I would read about it and see what others have to say about issues. It usually only takes about 30 minutes until you can tell if it is going to be good or not.
All of the roms for this tablet have there own little quirks. The stock has gotten better with each update but it still is not as good as the ones I named.
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard.
With a little bit of searching almost everything you may want it to do can be done. I really love mine, and when I got it almost 2 months ago I hated it...
"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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"Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable. Anything you can possibly break one of us has probably already broken before and fixed. There are some people that seem to have problems doing every little thing. Most don't. So I wouldn't let any of it scare you off because none of it is that hard."
"Sigh" of relief. Then I'm not too worried. As I said I've dabbled in modifying my G1 and it is mostly cake. But I've just been seeing conflicting posts on whether cwm works with the newest official tnt release or not so I wasn't sure what to do.
Thanks for your advice. And when I said pointers, I meant like this as well as pointing me to any posts I may have missed on how to do whatever. Though I THINK I found most of them.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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I can vouch for that. Erased system, boot, data and cache in preparation for a new ROM. Accidentally rebooted and couldn't get into recovery. Booted it into APX mode, flashed stock and was on my way.
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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The new release overwrites clockwork. But it is not hard to put back. Always a good idea to copy the clockwork backups folder to your pc, or somewhere they won't be lost. The custom roms typically leave the recovery image alone and can be installed with or without clockwork by either extracting the zip contents for stock recovery, or installing it as is in clockwork.
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It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
hogasswild said:
I would just run ZRoot, then upload the TnTLite 3.0 recovery and update.zip and then do the recovery mode process. You should have a microsd handy just in case it doesn't work, but so far I haven't needed that.
This tablet is much easier to work with and very forgiving since VS never took the time to lock down the bootloader etc like Motorola did with my Droid X. You really shouldn't fear changing files out etc, provided you're getting a ROM from one of the people providing them here. If you can press and hold two buttons at once, you can make your gTab an awesome little tablet. It benchmarks about 1000 points higher than my Droid X on quadrant. Can't wait to see what these guys can do with Gingerbread.
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with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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Thanks for the info Rothnic! I had already flashed it before I figured out it removed Clockwork. Learning new stuff every day is good... Thanks..
dragonfly1113 said:
with the new update however does the z4root still work? i heard it may not anymore. just curious also since im hopefully getting mine on sat for xmas
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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The very first time I rooted, I used ZRoot and installed 2.4.0. I didn't change anything and used the exact same process of simply copying over the 3.0.0 files over to the root directory of the internal memory and did the recovery procedure (vol+ and pwr keys). It worked like a charm.
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Ok cool, thanks cant wait for my g tablet hopefully sat morning
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
hogasswild said:
I think you'll like it a lot. I also own an iPad. While they are similar they are also a little different. Merry Christmas!
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my mom has an ipad and my dad could only buy it while i was on my honeymoon bc he knew i wouldnt approve of an apple device in the house haha.
rothnic said:
It is also not hard to alter the update so that it does not overwrite clockwork.
Open update.zip
Find updater-script, Open in notepad++
Remove the line that references recovery.img
Flash update
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My device hasn't come yet (damn you FedEx!) but I'm eagerly awaiting it.
My plan:
Unbox, start it....do a factory reset from the getgo if it has enough juice.
Set it back up. Charge it to full. If whatever comes on it is as unbearable as I've seen in on Youtube - start modifications.
Will CWM install on it AFTER I do the update if it's available to me? I've seen that the update messes with it if it's already there - but noone's mentioned putting it on there after the fact. I may just go that route for simplicity sake.
Thanks for this!, and thank you all for chiming in with your experience. I feel much better about just getting my hands dirty in it all. I had wrote something to someone yesterday about jumping in and just doing it, but when it comes to dealing with it yourself it can be a daunting task - especially when it still has that new smell, lol. Anyway, thanks again. You guys really rock.
Will stop back later on after I've done my thing
I think they are both nice devices. There are trade off for both of them. I think the screen on the iPad is wonderful, where the gTab's is okay. But the gTab has a forward facing camera, you can print from it, and you can modify it fairly easily too.
Sprdtyf350 said:
Finally.. This tablet is very easy to play with. It is pretty much unbrickable.
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...famous last words...
Seriously though...trust the directions from the great devs like roebeet. Follow their instructions word for word. You can switch ROMs and then flash back if you want. No worries...
Off topic!
Well...disappointment! Fedex had my package out for delivery at 8am and at 8pm, they're not here. This is why I like UPS, they show up at my door on the day of delivery, no exceptions - they have shown up at almost 9pm before. The Archos 101 I got was sent out at 8am as well but got here at 1:30pm - I suppose that was before the holiday rush.
Checking the details of my tracking I'm seeing a "delivery exception" at 7:30pm (I guess it was time to get back to the facility so they can clock out by 8pm?) and upon calling them I get a somewhat stumbling but polite CS who tells me the delivery went out "late" - upon which I asked if 8am was considered late, especially from a distribution facility WITHIN the same zip code as I am, and all he could say was "Very sorry about this".
Aaaanyway....I guess it will be tomorrow before I can report my adventures.
Think I'll be able to get my $3.99 back from Amazon? I have Prime and with that the package would have come tomorrow anyway. Basically my $3.99 is wasted. Imagine if I didn't have Prime though? Whew.
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If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
I finally got the G tablet tonight and...alright, don't flame me for this - but I don't see what all the complaints about the screen being horrendous or the device being molasses slow are about?
I don't know how people are trying to view it...but when looking at it or setting it on a stand to watch media, I'm not seeing any problem with the viewing angles. It's about the same as my laptop so I watch it the same way.
It's not even a 1/4 as slow as the stuff I've seen on Youtube or in some of the review videos I've seen around the net. I haven't gotten a single FC. Granted, I haven't put in a SD Card yet so maybe problems will start then?
I guess I should note, the very first thing I did was did a factory reset. Then I hooked it up to Wifi and got the 3053 update. I'm one of those who will be waiting for the 'official' update on the 24th.
I set up the time and date, restarted and everything works. I haven't installed flash yet (don't need it that much) and stuff that I DO want on there right now works fine (skype, pandora, fring, dropbox, evernote). I'm slowly figuring out a list of what I want/need from my Mytouch 4G to port to the VS GTab. Figure I don't really NEED Gtalk, Gmail on there because I have these on my phone AND PC - do I really want them making noises all around my home on 3 devices? I was concerned about getting the Google Apps on but now I'm finding I really don't need them. So it seems to me this will be a matter of learning to separate what I need on a tablet vs. my phone - I was of the mentality that I should just get whatever's on my phone on the tablet, this is something others apparently do as they seem to want everything that's on their phone, on their tablets as well.
I personally don't see the point in that. Had I had the Google Market, that would have escaped me as I'd have used Appbrain to just get my motherload of apps from the MT4G to the GTab. Not having it has slowed me, and now I get to re-evaluate before I do grab apps for it.
Now I just have to merge/convert my HTPC into a NAS device as well and find an app that will allow me to DLNA stream media from it and I'll be in mobile heaven.
I haven't had my wifi drop at all anywhere in my home and I've marched all over with it (I use full Wifi N, no G compat. so maybe my range is wider?). Tried email, etc. to replicate crashes and force closes but haven't so far. No surfing issues. I DID find that one app got 'stuck' being downloaded and I had to delete the file before the 'downloading' icon would go away, even after restart.
Maybe the trick to getting a workable GTab in the first place is to factory reset it before first use? Iunno. Things may change and issues may pop up the more I use it and as time passes - but so far, so good!
Again, I can't thank XDA enough for the advice and info. I've found and been given.
Sprdtyf350 said:
If you can figure out how to brick it you will probably get an award.. It won't be a good award but probably one of those top ten dumb things people do awards. So far unless you plug the motherboard into a wall socket no one has bricked one. May think they have, but like I said before I doubt it..
And your right.. If it can be done, someone eventually will figure out how. And then we will all laugh at them.. At least I will
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I figured it out. Accidentally hit one of the devkit nvflash .cabs and boom
There's an official T-Mobile update available as of this morning. It's over 40MB in size (pretty sure) so I'm imagining It's chock full of goodies.
I can't install it until I get home and defrost some bloat, so does anyone else wanna give it a shot?
I'll give it a shot. It says security and optimizations. DLing now.
EDIT: Looks like an update to Wifi calling.
EDIT2: New radio too: 11.59.3504.00_11.16.3504.20_2
Build: 1.55.531.3
Sent from my myTouch_4G_Slide using xda premium
yep, it's 43.2 MB, but definitely not ICS. will have to play with it to see if anything feels or looks different. i have attached the OTA package for anyone who'd like to have a look at it
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18474790/OT....28.531.10_release_2279923pt850rhelkwzr8g.zip
Seems like the big weather widget is now missing the awesome graphics/animation?
Edit: also a BIG word of warning... Revolutionary is saying the new HBOOT is NOT supported at this time.
Does temp root still work?
jonnycat26 said:
Does temp root still work?
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I don't think so, just tried it for the first time ever, but it didn't seem to work. Ran it twice but still don't have root access.
So I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question but please humor me. What would happen if I ran the update on my rooted phone? Would it brick the phone or just unroot it?
doost650 said:
So I know this is gonna sound like a dumb question but please humor me. What would happen if I ran the update on my rooted phone? Would it brick the phone or just unroot it?
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Probably neither, it would more than likely just fail and you would just pull your battery out and reboot to where you are now.
Well I only rooted my phone to unlock it so if I wanted to install the update then I would have to unroot (which I already no how to do).
There was a bump in the kernel version.... but there's nothing in the release notes that would indicate what's changed there. They only mention netflix improvements, Google security fixes, WiFi calling improvements, and something else so minor I've forgotten it already.
doost650 said:
Well I only rooted my phone to unlock it so if I wanted to install the update then I would have to unroot (which I already no how to do).
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Just wait a few days. Someone will float a rooted version out before too long.
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and here's the info on the new HBOOT: version # is 1.45.0013. it says *locked* at the top, but it still says S-OFF. i accidentally still had a PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and it read it and asked if i wanted to update.....
yogi2010 said:
yep, it's 43.2 MB, but definitely not ICS. will have to play with it to see if anything feels or looks different. i have attached the OTA package for anyone who'd like to have a look at it
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18474790/OT....28.531.10_release_2279923pt850rhelkwzr8g.zip
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Looks like a lot of the stock ringtones are gone . I never rooted my phone..i only know they are gone becaise it put my ringtone as tmobile jingle. The one I use is gone.
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Thanks for posting about this, and I really appreciate that the update has been provided so people can get it.
I am downloading the update now from yogi2010's dropbox - i'll see what I can find when I break it open after the download finishes.
I just woke up, so this gets to be the first item on my list.
If there is a new kernel provided, then don't expect to be able to open that up and scan for changes - but otherwise i'll see what I can find out and report back.
I updated my phone on friday night, and it was my first update ever. Is this the same one, or is it a newer version?
First impressions: wow, they made tiny changes to just about everything in the system.
I am going to focus first and foremost on the GPS changes they made - looks like they updated the SUPL certification, the GPS lib file - I need to find out what they did. They probably made it look like the GPS changes I made, but I never edited the SUPL certification file so expect an update to my GPS patch (probably) when I figure it all out.
I am also concerned about what they did with the bluetooth stuff - they updated the blacklist and also all of the Bluetooth files on the device.
If anyone applied the update, can you check and see if all of your bluetooth devices work?
I am half tempted to apply the update to one of my MT4GS phones, but I'm afraid of bricking it trying to go back after I sort through it all - writing the Radio is where you can brick your phone and that I would have to do ... so looks like i'll be figuring out how to decompile some of these update files and note the changes.
If anyone has any information to share about the update, please post it here.
Blue6IX said:
First impressions: wow, they made tiny changes to just about everything in the system.
I am going to focus first and foremost on the GPS changes they made - looks like they updated the SUPL certification, the GPS lib file - I need to find out what they did. They probably made it look like the GPS changes I made, but I never edited the SUPL certification file so expect an update to my GPS patch (probably) when I figure it all out.
I am also concerned about what they did with the bluetooth stuff - they updated the blacklist and also all of the Bluetooth files on the device.
If anyone applied the update, can you check and see if all of your bluetooth devices work?
I am half tempted to apply the update to one of my MT4GS phones, but I'm afraid of bricking it trying to go back after I sort through it all - writing the Radio is where you can brick your phone and that I would have to do ... so looks like i'll be figuring out how to decompile some of these update files and note the changes.
If anyone has any information to share about the update, please post it here.
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the reason i was kind of a proponent of the first update was because there were changes to a LOT of things, even tho the size of the package was small. still, i myself don't know what was changed, if anything.
do you think the fact the HBOOT read the original PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and asked me to update, means that we can still go back to what we had before?
unfortunately no bluetooth devices here but will report back later about GPS.
yogi2010 said:
the reason i was kind of a proponent of the first update was because there were changes to a LOT of things, even tho the size of the package was small. still, i myself don't know what was changed, if anything.
do you think the fact the HBOOT read the original PC59IMG.zip on my sdcard, and asked me to update, means that we can still go back to what we had before?
unfortunately no bluetooth devices here but will report back later about GPS.
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Probably - I may very well end up trying later but don't hold your breath. I might apply it to my phone that I bought with my plan so that I can take it back to T-Mo and force them to give me another one because their update broke it.
It kinda is special to me, being my first smartphone ever, so I don't want to part with it, but if I can't figure it all out i'm not so sentimental that i'll let that impede progress.
-also -
If anyone does flash this, some of the files that were removed with Undeadk9's security patch - and are also removed in my ROM, are put back onto the phone - most notably QXDM2SD.apk that I have seen thus far - this will have to be removed again if the update is flashed to prevent logging activities.
I have no idea what Smith.apk is - so decompiling and looking through that after I finish typing this out.
I'll keep people updated as I go through it.
can someone check if the CIQ stuff is still there or not?
i got a feeling...
Braccoz said:
can someone check if the CIQ stuff is still there or not?
i got a feeling...
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I'm not sure yet about CIQ - but Smith.apk is absolutely a new logging utility.
It looks like it's primary function is to log battery stuff, but that doesn't look like it's all that it's logging - i'm looking into this and disappointed to see another attempt at spyware and intrusive logging being pushed onto our phones.
Please be advised that in addition to the .apk file mentioned above, Smith.apk is a logging utility that needs to be assessed and explored more in-depth. I am doing so now but others should as well if they can, maybe see something I miss.
Also looks like Smith.apk gives us a new dialer code - 76484 is the number but not sure what the preface is to get to it. Check my sig under 'guides index' to see the other dialer codes i've found so far.
If anyone has installed this update, can you experiment with the different ways of entering dialer codes to see about activating this number?
More to follow as I get through it all.
Thanks!