Razr Maxx HD compared to Thunderbolt - Thunderbolt General

I've been shopping for a new phone after having my Thunderbolt for 1.75 years. I decided to get the Razr Maxx HD and here are my impressions comparing the two phones. Now, I start by saying I had the extended battery for the Thunderbolt. Battery life on the Thunderbolt was quite good with that extended battery. Everyone raves about the Razr Maxx HD battery life, however, the Thunderbolt holds up pretty well in this regard. With out a doubt, the Thunderbolts screen colors are much better, in a way. Whites on the Thunderbolt are white. Whites on the Razr phones are yellowish. Yes, the Razr Maxx HD dazzles in a way the Thunderbolt doesn't, primarily because it runs a newer operating system, however, the Thunderbolt screen is more pleasing because the whites are not yellow! Wireless reception in my home is better on the Thunderbolt. Jelly Bean 4.1 is nice with Google Now and the Siri killer search that Google has created. Faster and better than Siri. Calling, messaging and texting from voice command is really good on Jelly Bean.
In conclusion, you don't really recognize how amazing the Thunderbolt is until you check out these other phones. Thunderbolt with extended battery holds up very well to the new entrants. If Thunderbolt wasn't being hampered by its dated operating system, it would really be close. Respect the old Thunderbolt. He deserves it!

My niece got the razer max hd for Christmas and it locked up like two dogs and since it has no removable battery she wasn't able to reboot and had to let it sit while the battery died. I hate the Motorola screens too. It annoys the crap out of me that the digitizer is just barely visible and leaves that hashing on the screen. To each their own though. I noticed that the sgs3 that her boyfriend has has visible hashing on the screen too. It's weird because I've never seen this on htc phones. Plus the moto bootloader is so incredibly locked down it is ridiculous. I don't know if you ever used safestrap or bootstrap recoveries before but they suck.
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The Razr and SGS3 both have AMOLED displays with a PENTILE arrangement. These are known for innaccurate color and the PENTILE ones look really bad up close. The main upside of AMOLED is brightness.
The Thunderbolt has an LCD display, which are also often found in LG, Apple, Sony, and other HTC phones. The LG Optimus G/Nexus 4 and iPhone have IPS displays, which are the next step up.

I have tons of respect for my TB..able to upgrade , but there is nothing out there that is equal to what I have..oh yes, I'm running ICS leak and its great.. until something comes along that WOWS me..I'm sticking with TB
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disconnecktie said:
My niece got the razer max hd for Christmas and it locked up like two dogs and since it has no removable battery she wasn't able to reboot and had to let it sit while the battery died. I hate the Motorola screens too. It annoys the crap out of me that the digitizer is just barely visible and leaves that hashing on the screen. To each their own though. I noticed that the sgs3 that her boyfriend has has visible hashing on the screen too. It's weird because I've never seen this on htc phones. Plus the moto bootloader is so incredibly locked down it is ridiculous. I don't know if you ever used safestrap or bootstrap recoveries before but they suck.
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Have you tried Safestrap 3.* it's based on TWRP and you can have up to 5 roms installed at once that you swap between.
Much nicer than Safestrap 2.*

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Have you tried Safestrap 3.* it's based on TWRP and you can have up to 5 roms installed at once that you swap between.
Much nicer than Safestrap 2.*
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Yea even that isn't enough to make me want a moto device lol. I like the concept of having several different roms at once though.
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I jumped to the Maxx HD and I'm really happy with it. I've finally been freed from chargers and backup batteries!
I only charge in my car dock to and from work!
I'm running rooted stock and wWidow by andlaw.
Doug B.

Dumped my bolt for a maxx HD and couldn't be happier . Its just a great felling to just have everything work and NEVER have to worry about the battery!!! Sure the boot loader is locked but safestrap is fine for me.
"no removable battery she wasn't able to reboot and had to let it sit while the battery died." lol maybe read the manual and hit the proper key combination to simulate a battery pull. Only had to do that once on my daughters maxx. I have had mine for 2 months and have never had it lock up once. My MAxx screen is definitely better then my bolt was and the radio is stronger. So over all I am 100% happy with the maxx and glad to get rid of my bolt and its sorry ass battery!!

I had the TBolt and went to the Maxx HD (by way of a couple other phones lol). Maxx HD is a great device. Recently had the opportunity to get the Note 2 and I must say it is probably the best device that I have used. I would recommend it over the Maxx HD ... but IMHO the Maxx HD is no slouch either. It's currently my wife's daily driver.
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Anybody upgrade from the atrix? If so worth it or not

I'm upgrading to a white HTC one x from the original Motorola attic and was wondering if there are other users around that have done the same thing.
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I'm upgrading to a white HTC one x from the original Motorola attic and was wondering if there are other users around that have done the same thing.
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Yes, I did, and Yes, it's totally worth it, even with the locked bootloader.
yes.
I actually still have my Atrix. I have owned it the longest out of all smartphones I have ever had and its hard to give it up . With that said, I will be putting it up for sale soon and I feel the One X, even with locked bootloader intact, will be worth my while.... for the time being.
yes. it's a great upgrade from the pentile crap screen on the atrix. and best of all LTE is just great.
I do miss the compact size, the plethora of accessories, removable battery, unlocked bootloader, fingerprint reader, etc. etc. The atrix is still a super fast phone... CM9 runs super smooth. but i guess it's time has passed, and now is a dedicated gps device for my car lol.
The original Atrix? Got one. This thing is so far ahead of it, it's not even a valid comparison. Camera and display about 500x better. Much faster phone, and ICS to boot. To me it also handles better.
I'm upgrading tonight to the white one X but think I will keep the atrix to use as a mp3 player for the gym and maybe a few other things here and there. I find it hard to give up the atrix because of how amazing the Dev. Community is.
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also went from an Atrix to HOX. used the Atrix for a year and change..the battery while great, was starting to lose some of its ability to hold a charge, the camera sucked, and the screen wasn't the greatest. HOX is a major upgrade, if not only for the camera and ICS
My last phone was the Original Atrix.
Better screen, better design, faster, better cam, LTE. It's a no brainer.
I'm coming from the Atrix too. HOX is fantastic and hoping that awesome devs like Notorious544d come over to HOX eventually (fingers crossed)!!!
I would be willing to put a little money down to bring him over
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One X is best phone with best feature and design, best performance screen color is very bright and clear
But bad battery life, it drain fast with screen on like video playing or surfing internet but it is good when screen of as 3G talking upto 9 hours and 24mn and over while 4 hoursand 18mn for using internet and 5 hours and 45 mn for video play
I love my Atrix. It's fast, smooth, sturdy. I dropped it plenty of times w/o a case and it always booted back up after I popped the battery back in.
HOX is a worthy upgrade because of the amazing scree, fast camera, and ICS. It's thinner too.
We have an atrix family here. Lol
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yes, get the one x. for me, the screen on the one x was enough for me to spend the money to get it. i couldnt stand the screen on the atrix... too small and the colors seemed washed out to me
I came from the atrix as well! Main concerns going into it were battery life and lack of expandable memory. Lack of THD games didn't matter as most of them are garbage. The upgrade was genuinely worth it and battery life seems to be about the same if not better. Absolutely happy I upgraded!
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I'm going to have to agree that it's worth it. The screen was a big reason for my switching. Any big flaws the HOX has are software, which means one way or another they will be fixed.
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I got the Atrix....but Im waiting for the S3. However, I convinced my girl to upgrade to the HOX from the i4
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I'm going to have to chime in here as well. Just sold my atrix to my buddy. I had it for about 8 months which is an eternity for me with phones. It was an awesome phone but I was due for an upgrade and couldn't pass up the one x. A few things coming from an atrix running neutrino ee: Battery life..I thought it was excellent on my atrix (20+ hours easy) and after rooting and freezing some apps with tibu I'm happy to say its the same if not better. The kicker is disabling auto brightness and auto sync. I just check my Gmail manually every hour or two. Build quality..Makes the atrix look and feel like a toy. Screen..No contest lol. Honestly all that I miss from my atrix is the fp scanner, and I seem to be the minority on that one but it was awesome and worked flawlessly for me. My only hardware qualm with the one x is the led light. Its tiny and only does red, green and maybe orange? I was spoiled by having green for texts, blue for Gmail and lime green for everything else. Honestly that's all I miss. The one x is superior in every other way, now if only we can get this fn bootloader unlocked and "persuade" notorious to bring us some neutrino goodness.
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I upgraded from a Atrix and it is a huge upgrade. I was actually expecting better battery life but it is pretty much the same. The screen though is way better looking. I didn't think that would be a big deal until I got it and saw just how much prettier it is. And the camera on my phone takes better pictures then cameras of my families that they paid 200+ less than a year ago and is a definite upgrade over the Atrix one. Its sadly only slightly more smooth - it has fewer hiccups but it still does have some - but the next update will hopefully make it even better

Prospective Droid Razr Owner....Frustrated...Please help

I have posted this around a bit because I am a bit frustrated so much over a phone that is not even mine.
My mother broker her OG Droid Razr maxx last week from dropping it so since I am the tech guy at home she wanted my help to get a new phone...
Friday she added a line to her account....and got a GS3....She loved the phone and the colors(eye roll) but the phone had horrible reception which Samsung is known for. Call Quality was awful and she was willing to settle for it. Of course she'll settle now but i refuse to deal with her calling me for the next 2 years complaining about her phone....so i convinced her to take it back.
Monday We got a Droid DNA by HTC.....again she loved the way it looks and the colors and the sense animations(eye roll again)....Except once again she had crappy service.....it is better than the GS3 in the sense it doesn't drop calls but the call quality is crap...People can't hear her and she can't hear them.
We've already exchanged the phone once...so I am praying Best buy will let us exchange it one last time...I know they are sick of my face and I am sick of being there in best buy.
My mother is not a power user...this is partially my fault. Her droid razr maxx seem to perform well and i rarely heard her complain about it...But i wanted my mom to have a good phone that is going to be supported hence me choosing the GS3 and DNA since they were newer...but both were crap.
So it is obvious that Motorola is our best bet since where she lives it is extremely rural...trees surround the back of the house....
I have a Nokia Lumia 920 on ATT and i only get 1 bar of service but I never drop calls.....
So here are my choices...
Get my 100 bucks back for the DNA and get one of these phones
1. Just get her a new OG Droid Razr Maxx
But from doing research on the web, I hear the Razr maxx has a screen that is so fragile it literally spontaneously cracks...which makes me wonder was it really her that did it when she dropped it or what.
2. Moto Droid Razr M
It's free at best buy and i get my cash back.....but i hear it has that stupid antennagate thing the iphone has when you hold it at the bottom and you lose signal.
and lastly
3. Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD
I want to get her this.....It is a nice looking phone except i hear the screen randomly turns purple for no apparent reason.
Also, apparently the Maxx HD has some kind of hissing sound that is noticeable when talking on the phone....
So i need help....what phone should I get?
What issues are there with the Maxx HD? Or have the issues been fixed?
Micah Luca said:
I have posted this around a bit because I am a bit frustrated so much over a phone that is not even mine.
My mother broker her OG Droid Razr maxx last week from dropping it so since I am the tech guy at home she wanted my help to get a new phone...
Friday she added a line to her account....and got a GS3....She loved the phone and the colors(eye roll) but the phone had horrible reception which Samsung is known for. Call Quality was awful and she was willing to settle for it. Of course she'll settle now but i refuse to deal with her calling me for the next 2 years complaining about her phone....so i convinced her to take it back.
Monday We got a Droid DNA by HTC.....again she loved the way it looks and the colors and the sense animations(eye roll again)....Except once again she had crappy service.....it is better than the GS3 in the sense it doesn't drop calls but the call quality is crap...People can't hear her and she can't hear them.
We've already exchanged the phone once...so I am praying Best buy will let us exchange it one last time...I know they are sick of my face and I am sick of being there in best buy.
My mother is not a power user...this is partially my fault. Her droid razr maxx seem to perform well and i rarely heard her complain about it...But i wanted my mom to have a good phone that is going to be supported hence me choosing the GS3 and DNA since they were newer...but both were crap.
So it is obvious that Motorola is our best bet since where she lives it is extremely rural...trees surround the back of the house....
I have a Nokia Lumia 920 on ATT and i only get 1 bar of service but I never drop calls.....
So here are my choices...
Get my 100 bucks back for the DNA and get one of these phones
1. Just get her a new OG Droid Razr Maxx
But from doing research on the web, I hear the Razr maxx has a screen that is so fragile it literally spontaneously cracks...which makes me wonder was it really her that did it when she dropped it or what.
2. Moto Droid Razr M
It's free at best buy and i get my cash back.....but i hear it has that stupid antennagate thing the iphone has when you hold it at the bottom and you lose signal.
and lastly
3. Moto Droid Razr Maxx HD
I want to get her this.....It is a nice looking phone except i hear the screen randomly turns purple for no apparent reason.
Also, apparently the Maxx HD has some kind of hissing sound that is noticeable when talking on the phone....
So i need help....what phone should I get?
What issues are there with the Maxx HD? Or have the issues been fixed?
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I have the RAZR HD (not maxx) XT925 which is very similar to the RAZR M. This isn't presumably the same RAZR HD that's available where you are which would be possibly the XT926. In any case, thought you might want to know that like the M, I have a very slight antennagate effect on mine and the hardware is very much the same, just a differant sized phone. Sound quality isn't excellent in calls but it isn't what I had read about before buying it (and as you described) either. Its is good quality, but just not crystal clear as you might want given the amount of research and presumble frustration you've put into the search. I usually wouldn't reply to a thread that wasn't asking about my handset but it seems like you've done a lot of background work and felt I should give some input given the lack of response. Overall, the antenagate thing and the sound quality aren't issues for me, and I'm very picky as well. My biggest gripe is that the crash handler sucks on my phone. It rarely gives me the option to close an app but instead freezes and then I either shut it down after a while or it actually does a simulated battery pull all by itself. It's not that often but it is frustrating that it happens at all. It seems to be an issue when RAM is scarce. Admitadly, though, I may have frozen one app to many and this could be the cause.
thanks for your reply
I have the Maxx HD and notice none of the things you mention. I'm overall very happy with the phone and like the size and battery life. It also seems to be able to withstand some abuse; I've dropped it a couple times with no sign of damage. I haven't dropped ti flat onto concrete or anything, just fumbles while getting it out of the case or back in. If there is a color cast to the screen it don't notice it but I'm also not looking for it. Calls, data and coverage serve me well. I do think the camera is sub-par. Different software seems to help but if using the phone as a full blown camera is your thing you may be disappointed with that. It seems fine for snap shots and quick postings online. I'm currently having an issue with the hotspot function not working, which is included in my plan, but other than that the phone has worked well for me for the past 3 months or so.
I have a regular Razr HD and don't have any issues.
I had an OG Razr Maxx with no issues.
I would not get the OG Maxx, because it is close to end of life.. It's been out (Razr anyway) for more than a year.
If buying a Motorola phone, you should get Razr M or Razr HD family.
I think the regular Razr HD outperforms the OG Razr Maxx, in terms of battery life. At least the way I use the phone. YMMV
Get the Razr Maxx HD. Motorolla is well known for making phones that have great reception. I've had an iphone 4 for personal use and Blackberry for work, bothwere used in my home office. The Iphone would not work at alland the Blackberry has poor reception. The Razr Maxx Hd does not have all bars but works way better than the Iphone and Blackberry.
Battery life is awesome.
I've had no issues with the phone at all. The most recent update downloaded and installed without a hitch.
Now I just need a root method for the latest update
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[Q] thinking about getting the razr hd .

i currently have a droid x2. and while i would like to say that i could wait until the x-phone comes out, or the htc one comes out. i just cant stand having a non-functional phone anymore.
my question is:
do you guys think this phone is worth upgrading to ?
does development seem to be growing since unlock? ( does future development seem likely?) ( 5.0+ ? )
should i consider going with a galaxy device? (s3 or s4) i am kind of indifferent towards these plasticy devices.
i like motorola a lot. their build quality is fantastic. but i am not sure how i feel about a non removable battery (essentially limiting the life of the phone) , or the slightly outdated specs.
just looking for some users two cents on the topic. thanks guys.
It's a great phone and if your worried about battery get the maxx version.
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deeje00 said:
it's a great phone and if your worried about battery get the maxx version.
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+1000000000000000
I love this phone....battery life of course is phenomenal and I've yet to hear of anyone's battery crapping out on them. I've had mine now for several months and I think I've used my car charger maybe once. And thats only because I didnt charge my phone the night before.
The whole S4 oct-core plasticky phone's are outright redonkulous. The 1.5 ghz dual core is all you really need.
As far as development, since the unlock, it's skyrocketed. And its just in its infancy. Hashcode already has a new Kernel up for review as we speak. Once Cynaogenmod approves, we'll get official support and the development will be on par with the rest of the other top tier devices.
This board is just the tip of the iceberg. Check out www.droidrzr.com for more...
I've owned many a phone, from the first Android with the G1 to the RAZR HD and I have honestly never had a more fast, stable and force close free phone. This device is truly amazing and the battery life is flipping incredible. My wife has an S3 and it's okay but I would definitely rather own this one over that.
Development has exploded, as of right now I am running the following Rom. Perfection... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293262
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legend221 said:
I've owned many a phone, from the first Android with the G1 to the RAZR HD and I have honestly never had a more fast, stable and force close free phone. This device is truly amazing and the battery life is flipping incredible. My wife has an S3 and it's okay but I would definitely rather own this one over that.
Development has exploded, as of right now I am running the following Rom. Perfection... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2293262
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thank you sir. ! this helped a lot. its good to hear from someone who has seen both phones firsthand.
do you ever feel like the one gig of ram is not enough?
Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
thank you sir. ! this helped a lot. its good to hear from someone who has seen both phones firsthand.
do you ever feel like the one gig of ram is not enough?
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You're welcome mate. The 1 GB of Ram is more than enough for my needs. I can have a lot of different apps running and never notice it sluggish or falling behind. I've seen a article or two mentioning that the camera isn't all that great and I can agree just a bit.
Only negatives are the non removable battery and the camera quality. All else is top notch.
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Similar decision
I figured I'd post this for anybody else considering the RAZR HD.
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I first used the original DX for two years before switching to the HD.
Here's my opinion:
Pros:
- Great battery. HD is good. MAXX is unbelievable
- Comfortable to use. Not too large, not too small, and a pleasure to operate.
- Removable storage
Cons:
- VERIZON. nuff said
- RAM used up fairly quickly.
- No removable battery (bad)
- NFC works fine, but the big V won't allow its customers to use Wallet
- Sound is meh.
- No OFFICIAL Cyanogenmod 10.1
- Unlocked bootloader = AP Fastboot EVERY power down AND you mustn't allow the battery to die with an unlocked bootloader.
I certainly love my HD more than the DX, but unless the X phone is amazing, I'm leaving Motorola.
I never see the fastboot screen unless I do it on purpose. And I've had my phone die quite a few times with no issues..
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I never see the fastboot screen unless I do it on purpose. And I've had my phone die quite a few times with no issues..
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Ya? What are they talking about. Never seen that either.
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I must say that I truly love this phone. seems snappy and honestly no issues. I am going to venture into flashing my first ROM tonight when I get off of work. I had a gnex, which had a ton of support. I didn't like it so I traded it in for the rezound. It had way less support, but the devs were awesome! I bought this phone on CL and I must say it has even less development. That is my only concern about this phone. I would hope that the unlocked boot loader would bring on more devs, but coming from an OG, to the X, it appears the devs are not feeling the moto love.. If I had the money Id buy my favorite devs this phone. I think they would love it..
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- Unlocked bootloader = AP Fastboot EVERY power down AND you mustn't allow the battery to die with an unlocked bootloader.
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Try This
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42272243&postcount=1
AP Fastboot every time can either be a Sticky Bit error (from not tweaking a fastboot's xml file before flashing with RSD) or just a bad flash somewhere in general. Ensure you're using the snapdragon fastboots located in Mattlgroffs section on the Batakang FTP whenever you're doing any kind of fastboot flashing on any RAZR QCOM phone -- Atrix HD, all RAZR HD variants, both Phonton Q 4G LTE's.
Reality check...
OK, so I've been through a LOT of Android devices, and this one has some poo that goes along with it (as many others have).
1. The radios have become worse over the generations. While LTE is technically faster now on this device, I had WAY more coverage on my POS Revolution, but this device smokes the Galaxy Nexus for LTE coverage hands down (SGN is a joke as an LTE device).
2. Phone is mediocre. This is where the SGN showed what it was supposed to really sound like on a phone. On a call to my dad, he stated in my car that it sounded like I was in a quiet room by myself. He definitely doesn't say that with this phone.
3. Gaming. This one irritates me the most. Every few minutes there is lag. Sometimes it's short lag, sometimes you drop to 5fps for 6-7 seconds. Try Subway Surfers - you'll want to chuck the phone at the wall. I'm guessing this is an IO issue as I saw this in the TF300, and whatever CleanROM did for the TF300, it made the term "buttery smooth" no longer tongue and cheek. I'd give anything (except stability and features) to see that on this phone.
4. ROMs - I can't comment on this one, but I've been following the threads for a while now, and there's still some dealbreaker trade-offs going on - hopefully we'll see less of that as time goes on (great improvements over just the past few weeks). I've been waiting for the right time to make the move.
5. Tethering - Interesting that less people have seem interested in this problem, but as an unlimited user, I have found NO possible way around VZW. I'm rooted and have tried WiFi tether in the configurations people have suggested in multiple forums with no luck. I've tried the SQL hacks, I've tried other programs, I've tried WFT 3.2b, I've tried every configuration you can think of. The best I have had was a connection, but no internet. Every thread suggests something, but from my experience, nothing works.
6. A little lag in Nova Launcher when waking up and switching between screens.
7. VZW and Motorola seem more interested in blocking the devs from cleaning up Moto's mess than fixing their own crap. With the Ultra coming out, I figure that they'll block it from devs the best they can with a few more updates, then jump ship to create a shinier turd and repeat the cycle.
8. Browsing is still slow, even on WiFi, but show me a phone where this isn't true?
The pros?
1. Battery life. This is hands down the best phone I've had for battery, and it's only the HD, not the Maxx.
2. Better LTE than an SGN? LOL...
3. Depending on your usage, it's a decent phone I guess. It's ok in between downright irritating lagging for games(laugh), the WiFi works, albeit a little slow in areas, it's average as a phone, and if you're just interested in checking your e-mail and doing navigation, it's not bad.
4. Decent built in storage space stock.
5. Pretty good sound - no complaints on the music front.
Just don't EXPECT tethering, or a decent, lag-free gaming experience.
I either have a knack for choosing bad phones, or Android just STILL isn't there in the phone arena yet, even with the greater specs. If the former is true, I wouldn't follow my devices (minus the TF300 - that was excellent with CleanROM).
I paid in cash, and if I had to do it all over again, I have no idea what I'd do... I'm starting to believe that the big V along with these manufacturers, they are just slapping coats of wax on turds, then high tailing off to put the next, bigger, and shinier turd in front of people. There's no pride put into the devices past the marketing strategy. I'm never going Apple, MS is still hard to take seriously, and Android? Maybe I'm just really bad at choosing phones.
Edit: as an aside, my dad loves his (late 50s), but he doesn't game or care about tethering (with me, it's not often as well, but when I do, I expect it to work well). For him, it is mostly just navi, e-mail, and on rare occasions, browsing.
Edit 2: why do we not see more reviews like this instead of "omg it's the bestest octacore beast with terapixel camera that makes poking your friends on FaceBook a breeze?" I think we need "pro" reviewers at well known sites to dig a little deeper, and actually use devices as hard-core daily drivers for a week or so before passing judgement.
I tether just fine using easy tether pro. Sure it's not wireless but it's an easy way to get Internet on my netbook once in a blue moon. Worked just fine before I rooted.
I don't really disagree with anything from the previous entry. You would think motorola mobility's acquisition would have significantly changed things for the better. All I saw was a loss of webtop support. And wow going from the support of the galaxy nexus forums to these was a bit of an adjustment.
I watched a video today at android central regarding specs. Why they become so important. You don't see the issue with apple or windows phone. Yes there's fewer devices. More options should cause a healthy competition and I think we're getting there.
I do love the battery life on this phone. It's the sole reason I have it. I do also appreciate that there aren't tons of issues with the display and having to deal with worrying about the quality of a replacement device. Nobody wants a phone they can't rely on or enjoy. I just think it's funny how my galaxy nexus had all the features a year ago and I'm just finally starting to have friends and acquaintances ask me or brag to me about them.
I do think the X phone and its customizable aspects are great for certain users. But look how apple sells the iPhone. They focus on a feature like its camera. Interesting stuff.
Maybe android needs a figurehead to blatantly lie about her/his health to the public and get backdated stock options.
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I do find it unsettling that technology advances so quickly that a device is much less popular in 6 months or a year. I feel this way especially because most people are in a contract for two years and are stuck with the device.
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At least with a computer, you can upgrade it. Give it a new display, video card, max out the ram and it's like Christmas. Perhaps one day technology will permit the majority of smartphones to not only expand their storage space, but also easily enhance the hardware.
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Note 2 for maxx??

Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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erishasnobattery said:
I went from the Note 2 to the Maxx and couldn't be happier. I notice no performance difference at all. The Note has a bit nicer screen (color-wise) but otherwise i can think of nothing that gives it an edge.
Keep in mind though, you'll be going to a very locked down phone with almost no development community. If you're a flash addict, this isn't the device for you.
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I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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brandon2x said:
I had a feeling it was still like that. Without really researching it... I remember those days when I had the Droid X. Never could really truly change it all that much... I just want to be sure the lag that existed on the razr line isn't on this device. Hard to tell really by just looking at one at a store or I'd do that. The Maxx seems to be more "advanced", besides the screen. Wireless charging, the voice command features, etc. Is the camera a lot better than the previous models? They sucked bad.....
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The Maxx/Ultra run a very Vanillaish version of android which makes it really smooth and fast, not at all like the Razr HD. The camera is OK, not the best but they did just release a firmware update which improved the camera. Fwiw I have a Note II and a Maxx and the maxx is smoother and faster imho. While there isn't much development for the maxx you can get root and install recovery and used the xPosed framework which provides for some visual customization.
erishasnobattery said:
The maxx is just very stock android, which i prefer. I feel like the overlays like TW and Sense just haven't evolved much since the GB days. Yes, they're better than they were, but they aren't really leveraging everything android has to offer yet.
As far as the camera goes, i don't take a lot of pictures, as i have a camera for that. It does take decent pictures, but it doesn't have the features of the Samsung camera. It does ok for me, but a real picture-phile (i think i made that word up) will be disappointed.
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Picture-phile... That's a good one.... I take A LOT of pictures with my phone. It's just more convenient and the pictures are as good or better than any digital camera I've personally ever owned... TW on the Note 2 seems pretty important to me. I am probably one of the only people who actually USE the s-pen quite often and the way its built in to TW just works... I think based off what you've told me, I'm going to stick with my Note. I appreciate your fast responses. Have a great day.
brandon2x said:
Question for you MOTO guys. I have a Note 2 currently. I've been looking to trade it for a while now. I have a guy wanting to trade straight up for a 1 month old Droid Maxx (the new version). I was looking for some opinions... I have owned the Razr, Razr HD, Razr Maxx HD and all of those seemed to lag bad. Can someone give me some input on this? Thanks in advance...
Also, I'm a craigslist pro and know everything necessary for the trading part. I'm only looking for input on the devices...
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Not a Note 2 user here...buy I've had a GS3 since its launch day and just upgraded to a Maxx...I fell in love with the Maxx as soon as I started using it...
Development is a little scarce to say the least...but I almost don't even care...the stock performance beats the pants off any ROM/kernel/OC'ing I ever experienced on my GS3...
I do need to take the time to root this thing in the next couple of days but I dont even feel the desire for much else other than basic root functions...
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I was doing a comparison with my brother's N2 and my Maxx. This Maxx, with the LTE, was doing everything faster and smoother. Not once was his phone more responsive or as polished as the Maxx.
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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I vote to keep the Note 2.
I'm a former Droid Razr owner...you'd be hard pressed into talking me into any phone that had a locked bootloader like the Motorola devices. Plus the Motorola devices just don't have the sales volume of Samsung so that's another reason that the development community is small. I just love the large amount of custom ROMs that are available for the top selling phones.
For the guy who just came from the S3, I've got Paranoid Android with 4.4 on mine and everything opens pretty much instantaneously. I wouldn't mind having more (Cores/RAM/Storage/Screen) but it would really just be for show. I can wait for my contract to be up before I get the "Next Big Thing" (S5?)
That being said I don't have any other specific complaints about the new Moto Droid devices and I am mulling over getting a Droid Mini on for my stepdaughter for Christmas. Using Early Edge since Verizon took the early upgrade program away, and I promised her a new phone if she kept up GPA above 3.5. It seems to have the same CPU and memory specs as the Maxx and the Ultra, just with a smaller screen. She'll never root it or anything. I wouldn't mind getting her the Ultra or Maxx either but I'm not sure she wants a device that big.
Which leads to my other question, I guess the Maxx/Ultra/Mini are all in this forum since they seem to have the same hardware specs?
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Correct, this forum covers all of the new Droid line.
Personally I would consider a Moto X for your daughter over the Droid Mini. The specs are about the same but the Moto X feels much better in hand and is a much more stylish device. The Droid Ultra is the worst of both worlds and should not even be considered IMO. I have the Droid Maxx and my wife has the Moto X, and both are great devices with slightly different strengths (battery/screen size on the Maxx, form factor/customization on the Moto X).
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Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
brons2 said:
Stylish? Huh, she shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth. I told her in July I wouldn't be able to get her another phone until May because Verizon had done away with the early upgrade program.
This is based on what I feel like paying. I am going above and beyond to do this for her. Even her mother encouraged me not to do it, but I feel the need to keep my original promise I made last Christmas. And I feel a little bad making her have a Droid Razr with a battery that broke, then an Xperia Play I had sitting around, and then (now) a used Droid Bionic I got off of Ebay.
So...
In the Edge program you basically pay for it every month, full retail divided by 24 months, so the Mini is appealing because full the retail price is only $349, or $14.54 per month. I think the Moto X was $549 so it would be $22.89 a month.
I can buy a 6 pack of Blue Moon with the leftover 8 dollars.
The other thing is that if I was going to go with a larger more expensive phone I like the G2 better than the MotoX. But I haven't looked at any reviews of the MotoX or the G2 either. I hated the HTC interface, and considering I will have to support her remotely, rather have an interface I can deal with. The S4 is not an option because it costs more than the other phones in the same class.
I could put my line on Edge, and do a hand-me-down with my S3 that works perfectly. But I would want an S4 out of that group and it would cost more. I'd rather wait until May when my contract is up and then I can re-up for another 2 year with either an S4 or S5.
So given all that, the Mini seems like a pretty good option considering I'm only paying $349 out of pocket and it has similar specs to all the other current gen Moto phones. But if she really wants a 5" phone we'll talk when she gets in town on Friday.
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Didn't realize you were buying off contract ... in that case sure the Droid Mini is a very good choice. As for 5" displays, the Droid Maxx is now $499 off contract which is probably the best deal going in that class (price might be good online only though, not 100% sure). I think of the Moto X as the same class as the Droid Mini because the form factor is so small, although it does have a slightly larger display (4.7" vs. 4.3").
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Update: The Maxx just dropped to $449 off-contract today. Amazing deal IMO.

Worth Getting Razr HD?

I am getting a Razr HD, is it worth getting now? or should I wait to get maybe a S3 with 2gb ram or HTC DNA? they are like $100 more money, I like that Razr has almost stock android like cm's but Im not sure
spec wise the droid dna has more raw power than the s3 and the razr hd !
2gb ram should not make much difference if you plan on using cm because cm is superfast on the razr hd- which has 1gb ram.
if you're after a great build quality, excellent ergonomics, the superb kevlar feel and most importantly battery life,, i suggest you go for the razr hd maxx.
if camera is your primary concern, i suggest you avoid the razr.
i would go for the droid dna amongst the three devices you mentioned above..
good luck.
Slisy said:
I am getting a Razr HD, is it worth getting now? or should I wait to get maybe a S3 with 2gb ram or HTC DNA? they are like $100 more money, I like that Razr has almost stock android like cm's but Im not sure
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I recently chose between the DNA and the RAZR Maxx HD....obviously I'm in these forums so you can see the one I chose.
Razr HD is the best built line of phones. Bonus with the maxx HD is you'll reduce your charging time by at least 50%
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Currently there is no phone like Razr Maxx HD, not even new Droid (lack of sd card).
Actually that's really sad. Maybe Lenovo will change that..
I recently bought a used bootloader unlocked RAZR maxx hd. I don't regret it one bit. $280 with a shell case holster combo, 16gb card, and OEM car dock.
Went from DROID1>DROID 3>BIONIC>RAZR MAXX>RAZR MAXX HD.
pistacios said:
I recently bought a used bootloader unlocked RAZR maxx hd. I don't regret it one bit. $280 with a shell case holster combo, 16gb card, and OEM car dock.
Went from DROID1>DROID 3>BIONIC>RAZR MAXX>RAZR MAXX HD.
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put a 32gb card and youre fully set! =)
You remind me to test 64GB card
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djvita said:
put a 32gb card and youre fully set! =)
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Had one from my RAZR maxx xt912, put it in as soon as I got the HD. Using the 16gb in my WIFI XOOM.
I just traded my droid DNA for the maxx HD. So far I like it much better. The DNA had a nice screen, but I think the maxx screen is pretty nice too. Mainly, I really like the notification light. Even though the DNA had one on the back which I thought was very cool, it gets covered up by a case.
Just for curiosity, could you compare battery life between dna and maxx hd?
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I can tell you right now the DNA had the worst battery life of any phone I have had. I personally didn't have a problem with this, as I have a wireless charger and am normally near a charger in some form. My usage would need a charge later in the day. Haven't exactly had the maxx long enough yet but I am pretty sure it will go at least the full day for me, maybe more.
Thank you. Some guys on another forum tried to convince me that "The DNA gets awesome battery life, comparable to the Maxx HD, if not better depending on the rom and settings.". What was hard to believe...
Yeah that's nonsense. Don't get me wrong the DNA is a great phone. But look at the specs, the battery dwarfs the DNA. No amount of ROMs, kernels, apps will change that.
Zeljko1234 said:
Thank you. Some guys on another forum tried to convince me that "The DNA gets awesome battery life, comparable to the Maxx HD, if not better depending on the rom and settings.". What was hard to believe...
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I've had my Razr Maxx HD for almost a year and like it as much as the day that I got it. I can get 2 days out of a battery charge and custom roms make it like getting a new phone all over again. :good:
bond32 said:
Yeah that's nonsense. Don't get me wrong the DNA is a great phone. But look at the specs, the battery dwarfs the DNA. No amount of ROMs, kernels, apps will change that.
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I saw specs, that's why I couldn't believe that 2020 mAh battery with quad core, bigger screen, higher resolution, etc. can last longer than 3300 mAh with lower specs. Maybe if custom rom and kernel shutdown two cores and undervolt. But what's the point to buy high end phone and slow it down?
Razr chipset is good enough for normal use, without Verizon bloadware would be even better. More primary memory would be good but maybe kk update will improve memory management.
Mountain Flier said:
I've had my Razr Maxx HD for almost a year and like it as much as the day that I got it. I can get 2 days out of a battery charge and custom roms make it like getting a new phone all over again. :good:
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Right now I use razr a lot, online all the time, synchronizing gmails and corporate emails, calls, navigation, browsing, listening music and even occasionally play games. Last all day and still left some juice, usually 20-40%.
I didn't even know the DNA had a quad core. Performance wise I don't see any difference between the two. The battery is a huge hit though. Development seems much larger for the DNA, but with that said I really didn't like the new sense.
And DNA doesn't support sd card, what's very important for me. Unfortunately new maxx doesn't support it either
I had HTC Desire. Community was great but tbh HTC is not famous with their support and they always made some hardware fail(s).

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