Will there be a specific date on when the 4,1,1 (OTA) fix will come in so you can use the AOSP ROMS? or will we just have to wait and see.
(I OTA updated before knowing of rooting, so don't tell me its a no no and stuff )
ronnyg12 said:
Will there be a specific date on when the 4,1,1 (OTA) fix will come in so you can use the AOSP ROMS? or will we just have to wait and see.
(I OTA updated before knowing of rooting, so don't tell me its a no no and stuff )
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When kernel source is released
My guess is another two months at least on the kernel. No clue on if or when a fix will ever be released for the jb ota'ers sorry
Sent from my HTC One XL
954wrecker said:
My guess is another two months at least on the kernel. No clue on if or when a fix will ever be released for the jb ota'ers sorry
Sent from my HTC One XL
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Noooooo
I'm just guessing I know nothing about the new firmware and hboot from the jb ota. Another guess is once the flood of at&t ota people comes rushing in like a tsunami a solution may pop up shortly after.
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ronnyg12 said:
Will there be a specific date on when the 4,1,1 (OTA) fix will come in so you can use the AOSP ROMS? or will we just have to wait and see.
(I OTA updated before knowing of rooting, so don't tell me its a no no and stuff )
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From what I understand they have 90 days to release kernel source after releasing the kernel so we're looking at around 3 months. I'm in the same boat as you bud. Updated without realizing the downside and I much prefer aokp to sense. Until then I'm using viper 3.1.0 desensed with nova. I even went as far as to downgrade my hboot to see if I could flash aokp after with no difference.
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From what I understand they have 90 days to release kernel source after releasing the kernel so we're looking at around 3 months. I'm in the same boat as you bud. Updated without realizing the downside and I much prefer aokp to sense. Until then I'm using viper 3.1.0 desensed with nova. I even went as far as to downgrade my hboot to see if I could flash aokp after with no difference.
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Damn, I was just going to suggest that and see if it works i guess not. Couldn't we just downgrade to the ICS build by downgrading our hboot then flashing the 2.40 RUU?
ronnyg12 said:
Damn, I was just going to suggest that and see if it works i guess not. Couldn't we just downgrade to the ICS build by downgrading our hboot then flashing the 2.40 RUU?
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Hmmm I didn't really think of that but it may be worth a try!
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Hmmm I didn't really think of that but it may be worth a try!
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Well actually nvm the 2.40 RUU isn't leaked yet i think so couldn't you downgrade to 1.09 and then Flash HK 2.42 RUU which is basically the same?
exad said:
From what I understand they have 90 days to release kernel source after releasing the kernel so we're looking at around 3 months. I'm in the same boat as you bud. Updated without realizing the downside and I much prefer aokp to sense. Until then I'm using viper 3.1.0 desensed with nova. I even went as far as to downgrade my hboot to see if I could flash aokp after with no difference.
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They DO NOT have 90 days. GPL clearly states it must be provided immediately when the accompanying software is available or before. HTC is in violation of the GPL. They are only allowed time to make it available for distribution. They think that this allows them to hold it back indefinitely while in reality it means time to upload and should always be available within 24 hours of the Rom being released to the public. This is not open to interpretation according to the GPL and any lawyer who has looked at it. Gpl-violations.org is a good place to file a complaint as well as HTC's legal department. This really needs some attention considering they routinely wipe their ass with a legally binding agreement that does not allow delaying kernel source at all.
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Somewhat of a noob question, but I'm assuming AOKP ROMs also wouldn't work if I stupidly applied the 4.1.1 OTA update?
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Somewhat of a noob question, but I'm assuming AOKP ROMs also wouldn't work if I stupidly applied the 4.1.1 OTA update?
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Yep only jb sense... And once kernel source is out it will be fixed so be assured and I thought they had 90 days? If they were in violation oh well but I could of sworn they had 90 days to do it either way until they become a dev friendlier community you have to wait at least 90 days for source
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Yep only jb sense... And once kernel source is out it will be fixed so be assured and I thought they had 90 days? If they were in violation oh well but I could of sworn they had 90 days to do it either way until they become a dev friendlier community you have to wait at least 90 days for source
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im just thinking of getting the nexus 4
So I applied this OTA update (flashed the stock recovery first), then re-flashed TWRP. Now, I can't for the life of me get the phone rooted again. I tried several different supersu apks, some older, some newer. SuperSU itself can't install, can't uninstall, can't update its binaries. Different supersu's allow SuperSU itself root access, but no other programs can be given root access (such as Titanium Backup).
Any ideas? I'm about to get rid of this phone, HTC is just making modding so painful. My fault I know for installing the OTA update, but still...
Mercath said:
SuperSU itself can't install, can't uninstall, can't update its binaries.
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Do you have a kernel which allows write access to system partition?
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Do you have a kernel which allows write access to system partition?
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I installed the 4.1.1 update, so I have that kernel. Are there any kernels I can install that will function with the new update? I was under the impression I had to wait until HTC released their source before I could flash anything.
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Are there any kernels I can install that will function with the new update?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2061577
That should do what you want.
Thanks, I'll look into that.
I have a nandroid backup of my stock ROM (4.0). Would installing that work, or has the 4.1.1 update messed that up too?
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Mercath said:
Thanks, I'll look into that.
I have a nandroid backup of my stock ROM (4.0). Would installing that work, or has the 4.1.1 update messed that up too?
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Too late, your phone has the new hboot. It probably won't work
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Thanks, I'll look into that.
I have a nandroid backup of my stock ROM (4.0). Would installing that work, or has the 4.1.1 update messed that up too?
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The 4.1.1 OTA ruins basically everything -.-
Related
This is the latest official update for the HTC Hero. Used for restoring to stock "Over the Wire."
2.31.651.7 Update
http://www.multiupload.com/XPO8XEK48K
The software upgrade posted below provides several key enhancements for your HTC Hero:
Upgraded OS to Android 2.1 Éclair
Includes enhancements to Sense UI
Includes enhanced corporate email support
Includes a variety of minor bug fixes
Source: http://www.htc.com/us/support/hero-sprint/downloads/
Don't run this unless you are wanting to return your phone to stock!
Nanan00 said:
Don't run this unless you are wanting to return your phone to stock!
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That is implied by my first line in my OP...however that is what an RUU is, haha
It's used to fix your phone or return it to stock to restore to factory defaults.
It looks like both the HTC and the Sprint support download sites do not have this posted since both support sites are still showing MR 2.27.651.6 and not this 2.31.651.7 file. Strange.
So, is your 2.31.651.7 Update file rooted???
No this is the official ruu...
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Hasn't this been posted long ago ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790889
PTown599 said:
Hasn't this been posted long ago ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790889
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No, they're two very different things, and it's critical that readers be aware of exactly what those two things are.
The OP posted a link to Sprint's executable RUU that takes your phone to the latest factory release, and breaks root if you're rooted.
The link you posted is to a zip file containing a rooted rom released by nfinitefx45 based on the latest Sprint update, along with a custom OC'd kernel he released specifically for that rom.
I have been rooted almost a year and haven't really been keeping up with rooting new RUU's. Is this newest one rootable by the FreshKitchen? I remember reading how Sprint removes root methods with updates.
I need to take mine in for warranty and want to make sure I can get CM back.
I am currently running CM6 Extremely Blue but was wondering if .7 is rootable via the one-click apk or other method just in case I ever run this on my phone for some weird reason.
Thanks. Was looking for this. I have to return my hero to sprint due to dust under the screen issues. Just hope they don't send me a refurbished more crappy than the one I have.
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I have been rooted almost a year and haven't really been keeping up with rooting new RUU's. Is this newest one rootable by the FreshKitchen? I remember reading how Sprint removes root methods with updates.
I need to take mine in for warranty and want to make sure I can get CM back.
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If worse comes to worst you can flash back to the previous RUU and re-root from there.
The new rooting method works with the update I believe.
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I could not get the universal androot to work on this.
pc9840 said:
I could not get the universal androot to work on this.
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I never trust the oneclick root, but if it is not working then contact the developers and see if they can fix it. Try the long method
RichAggie said:
I have been rooted almost a year and haven't really been keeping up with rooting new RUU's. Is this newest one rootable by the FreshKitchen? I remember reading how Sprint removes root methods with updates.
I need to take mine in for warranty and want to make sure I can get CM back.
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I would just find the previous RUU files posted around here, run one of them and root from there. And you can always downgrade the RUU when you get your new one from Sprint.
Hero con froyo
Whosdaman said:
I never trust the oneclick root, but if it is not working then contact the developers and see if they can fix it. Try the long method
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You can not roll back to the previous version ruu after installing this. So after installing this I believe there is not way to root the phone until a "root" is released for this version.
@whosdaman have you rooted this RUU?
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@whosdaman have you rooted this RUU?
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No, I was told this was rootable, however it appears not to be. I guess the One-click people need to fix their product lol
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No, they're two very different things, and it's critical that readers be aware of exactly what those two things are.
The OP posted a link to Sprint's executable RUU that takes your phone to the latest factory release, and breaks root if you're rooted.
The link you posted is to a zip file containing a rooted rom released by nfinitefx45 based on the latest Sprint update, along with a custom OC'd kernel he released specifically for that rom.
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Well mine is not rooted either mine was made specificaly for the one that have an S-OFF hboot, it will restore just like the ruu, just you can do it all from within your phone by flashing it from hboot. This is much easier for the S-OFF group of people out there that may been to take there phone in for service.
Hope that is clear to everyone
nfinitefx45 said:
Well mine is not rooted either mine was made specificaly for the one that have an S-OFF hboot, it will restore just like the ruu, just you can do it all from within your phone by flashing it from hboot. This is much easier for the S-OFF group of people out there that may been to take there phone in for service.
Hope that is clear to everyone
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PTown599 said:
Hasn't this been posted long ago ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790889
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Nfinite, I think you're a little confused here. Please click on PTown's link. It takes you to the first listing in your sigline, which is your rooted version of Sprint's latest release, wherein you posted:
NFX Sprint 2.31.651.7 STOCK Deoxed/Odex
This is the New Update from Sprint this is a completely stock rom with everything from the factory included.
Included Extras:
Rooted
Busybox
SU
wireless tether
I believe you're thinking that PTown's link takes you to your RUU release, which is the second listing in your sigline.
So... I used to be rooted until my old tbolts 4g data bit the dust and I had to get a replacement. I have my new tbolt in my hand as we speak but I'm faces with a dilema. Should I root or wait for stock ics Rom to he released and live with that. I've been waiting a long time for this update as I have had the tbolt for almost 2 years now. What is your guys' opinion on this. I know it would be nice to root and debloat the thing as my battery drains so quickly these days , but maybe with the promise of ics we will see improvements? Also how long before a custom Rom is released when the ota for ics hits our phones?
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
*Madmoose* said:
I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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Thanks for the response! I just know if I root I won't be able to install the ota update.... Am I wrong?
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OTA's are just patches to take you to the next level. RUU's are released at the same time (speaking specifically about ICS here). With S-Off you can do whatever you want as far as installing things. Honestly it's pretty pointless to not S-Off if it's available to your device.
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
Will the ruu install radios and changes to hboot (if there are changes to hboot)?
RUU's are EVERYTHING. OTA's are just the parts that were updated from the last version. Usually OTA's end up causing little issues here and there. The RUU's do a full install on the phone.
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
gcodori said:
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
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+1 The devs here would make a stock version that's an exact replica of it anyway.
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recDNA said:
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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If you are S-Off you can go in any direction you want to. S-On could be a problem if they patch our S-Off exploit (which i strongly doubt, but a possibility nonetheless) This is why it's pointless to have a phone without S-Off if it's available.
im running the latest beans rom and im unlocked. today im being prompted to take an ota, seems like it's being pushed as i had a countdown clock. i disabled the update until 5am but why am i be prompted for this on a non stock rom and how do i totally disable this?
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im running the latest beans rom and im unlocked. today im being prompted to take an ota, seems like it's being pushed as i had a countdown clock. i disabled the update until 5am but why am i be prompted for this on a non stock rom and how do i totally disable this?
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Freeze or uninstall SDM and reboot. That's what I did, saw some other post here saying the same thing.
Really? Custom romantic and recovery and you got an ota? I'm running beans 11 and nothing was pushed to my phone
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I'm running rooted stock and it's forcing me as well. I thought it was disabled on all the root roms even stock ones? Not sure how to stop it other than keep defering it.
OTA
I just accepted the OTA, restored to factory defaults, one step rooted it, got rom manager from the play store, booted into clockwork and then reapplied my rom. No biggie.
SeattleJimmy said:
I just accepted the OTA, restored to factory defaults, one step rooted it, got rom manager from the play store, booted into clockwork and then reapplied my rom. No biggie.
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Just because it worked ok on yours doesn't mean it will on everyone's. Good way to brick your device...
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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guthrien said:
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
honking said:
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
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What's up crew?
After my update the baseband version is I535VRLG7.
I used Mobile Odin pro to PRE-ROOT the OTA before flashing it.... Successfully I should add.
I don't have the OTA Handy for you though, but if you do a little searching around this forum I'm sure someone has it here for downloading.
The OTA did not update my modem though, I had to flash the G7 baseband version separately. Found it on RootzWiki.
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Found it: OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31577098&postcount=35
G7 Modem update:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/34053-of...zon-sgs3-sch-i535-odin-or-recovery-flashable/
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backcourse said:
Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
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guthrien said:
Is this the new security fix? I heard there was a major browser vulnerability.
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You guys can .... SAFELY... check your device to see if you're vulnerable to the hack on this site.
http://www.androiddoes.net/news/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-ussd-hack-test/
Read up on the page.. it says something about if Your Dialer screen coming up and your IMEI is being displayed on it then you have the Vulnerability.. if nothing happens.. or if your dialer comes up with nothing being displayed then you're probably safe.
honking said:
what's the baseband version after ota?
can someone upload the latest ota?
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What does the new OTA update?
backcourse said:
Probably not, they don't like to fix actual problems. They prefer to make minor tweaks and such to their bloat instead. You didn't want your device to actually work as advertised did you?
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According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
sololhj said:
According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
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The phone wipe hack was fixed months ago on the S3. I took the OTA then unlocked (casual) and unlocked boot loader (EZ Unlock). No problems no issues. Slammed Beans 12 non-kexec back on it and I really don't see any difference.... World didn't end Phone police didn't knock my door down.... Nothing....
sololhj said:
According to Samsung, the new update does in fact fix the phone wipe hack recently discovered
http://phandroid.com/2012/09/26/samsung-says-remote-wipe-hack-already-addressed-in-recent-galaxy-s3-update/
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It was sarcasm, I'm beyond jaded with all these companies.
loveubuntu said:
Really? Custom romantic and recovery and you got an ota? I'm running beans 11 and nothing was pushed to my phone
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I'm on Beans 12, or was possibly on 11 at the time, when it tried to DL.
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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marsyeti said:
I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
marsyeti said:
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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marsyeti said:
But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!
Ok, so I'm no stranger to modding and XDA but every phone I've always had I always flashed custom Roms immediately so I'm not sure how it works on stocks. I'm rooted with unlocked bootloader on the stock ROM with Franco's kernel. Can I install system updates or is it best to do that on stock kernel and does being rooted with unlocked boot loader affect it? Thanks for any help.
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The OTA should contain the stock kernel, so you would just need to flash the custom one afterwards. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't see why it should be different from what I said...
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The OTA should contain the stock kernel, so you would just need to flash the custom one afterwards. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't see why it should be different from what I said...
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I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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C-4Nati said:
I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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Sorry, I wasn't clear: most likely the OTA itself contains the stock kernel, therefore it installs it instead of whatever you already have. After the OTA you should just have to (re-)flash your custom one back and be good to go.
C-4Nati said:
I'm on a custom kernel now, wasn't sure if I can do an ota on a custom kernel or not.
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worse case scenario you can flash an update zip but like previously mentioned the kernel is not what generally causes the issue but the recovery. I do not think you will have an issue but hey there are some nice custom roms out there with options give one a shot. Just nandroid you current setup
Remember custom roms are running 4.4.4
playya said:
worse case scenario you can flash an update zip but like previously mentioned the kernel is not what generally causes the issue but the recovery. I do not think you will have an issue but hey there are some nice custom roms out there with options give one a shot. Just nandroid you current setup
Remember custom roms are running 4.4.4
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Yeah I know, I always use custom Roms cause I generally have phones that have some OEM ui plastered on so since this is already close to stock I'm going to ride it out and see how CM does updating for a bit. Especially since they promised L within 3 months after it's release.
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C-4Nati said:
Yeah I know, I always use custom Roms cause I generally have phones that have some OEM ui plastered on so since this is already close to stock I'm going to ride it out and see how CM does updating for a bit. Especially since they promised L within 3 months after it's release.
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I hear ya but they working on a Android L rom in development now just so you know... I ran the version for my N4 and it is a lovely OS :good: