Sense 4+ is really bad - HTC One S

They changed things for no reason. Why doesn't the wallpaper scroll anymore? And how come, for expanding notifications, you have to pinch instead of swiping down with two fingers? It's far less intuitive and doesn't work for me 80% of the time. Text message font size is bigger (even on small), and they took away all the good skins and widget themes.
I'm about to switch back to an ICS sense ROM or CM10.

adnana1024 said:
They changed things for no reason. Why doesn't the wallpaper scroll anymore? And how come, for expanding notifications, you have to pinch instead of swiping down with two fingers? It's far less intuitive and doesn't work for me 80% of the time. Text message font size is bigger (even on small), and they took away all the good skins and widget themes.
I'm about to switch back to an ICS sense ROM or CM10.
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I agree with you.
I just received OTA 4.1.1 from Fido(Rogers), but it's not Sense 4.1. I'm really disappointed.

The pinch to zoom to expand the notification is crap, however, iirc it was like this for all phones that had 4.1.1 and is improved by having to only swipe down in 4.1.2
Also, the text size in the stock sms app can be resized to be the same size as it was in sense V4.1, just pinch to zoom right out.
My main dislike with V4+ is:
- the notification thing you said, although as said I think this is due to the android version and when/if we get 4.1.2, it should be much better
- the power saver in the notification tray constantly
- the battery usage screens, completely ruined it especially the history screen
I don't really use any sense apps now, have replaced most with 3rd party apps from the market.

HTC is suicidal.
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AW: Sense 4+ is really bad
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TouchWiz is great. Yeah, I said it.

I have no idea what people are complaining about. This UI is even better than HTC Sense, IMO, and manages to one up even the super simple to use iPhone UI.
- Slide the screen to unlock. Brilliant.
- Easily rearrange icons and programs.
- Music player has drop-down interface on locked home screen.
- Notifications drop down has WiFi/BT/Silent/Vibe settings built in.
- I can add/remove pages! I just want 3 pages? Done. Simple.
- Camera loads INSTANTLY. The Droid X (I returned) was so slow to load.
- Memo program! Thanks!
- My Files file manager, no need to download AndExplorer
and it's easily as snappy as the iPhone4. Every other Android phone (except the Aria for some reason) was obviously slower than the iPhone when it came to navigating the interface. This phone is smooth as silk at all times. BETTER than the iPhone.
Am I alone here or what?
I agree. It's actually usable once I removed the Samsung widgets from my homescreens to reduce the lag. I like the custom options available with LauncherPro and the additional dock icons, though. I'm doing battery testing with a few different launchers right now and I'll probably go back to trying Touchwiz again after today.
grinr said:
I have no idea what people are complaining about. This UI is even better than HTC Sense, IMO, and manages to one up even the super simple to use iPhone UI.
- Slide the screen to unlock. Brilliant.
- Easily rearrange icons and programs.
- Music player has drop-down interface on locked home screen.
- Notifications drop down has WiFi/BT/Silent/Vibe settings built in.
- I can add/remove pages! I just want 3 pages? Done. Simple.
- Camera loads INSTANTLY. The Droid X (I returned) was so slow to load.
- Memo program! Thanks!
- My Files file manager, no need to download AndExplorer
and it's easily as snappy as the iPhone4. Every other Android phone (except the Aria for some reason) was obviously slower than the iPhone when it came to navigating the interface. This phone is smooth as silk at all times. BETTER than the iPhone.
Am I alone here or what?
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This is MY first android device.. Coming from a old sidekick, then windows mobile, then iphone 3g, this is my first step towards android.
As far as the interface, I've used other Android devices before and the experience wasn't so hot. The Galaxy S is not only fast, but has tons of options. The UI is simple, fast, and easy to manage.
The only thing that I don't like is all the bloatware that ATT puts on the phone.
I agree.
Touch wiz adds so many nice little tweaks that add up to big improvements. I love everything in your list and would like to add the amazing brightness control by swyping the top bar.
I saw the screenshots for Touchwiz before I bought the phone was was convinced that it'd be the first thing to go. In fact, simply because of the dock at the bottom I was still convinced I was going to drop it when I picked up the phone. then I discovered that you can change which applications show up on the dock! It's so much more customizable than I had previously thought, and it's not as laggy as I imagined it would have been. And it really does have a lot of nice little tweaks. I'm quite happy with it.
You're definitely not alone. I too thought I was going to replace touchwiz, but I find it to be smooth and awesome! I was just about to make a duplicate thread of this one asking who kept touchwiz.
Add another these your list:
You can rearrange pages.
Swype to call/txt
Touch top dots to swap screens.
I like the status bar music player and wireless toggles. That is the perfect place to put them. I like the transparent sliding lockscreen, and the music player on the lock screen.
I thought the side scrolling of the applications would be annoying, but then I realized that it unifies the mechanism of icon pages. The home screen has pages for all homescreen apps. Why not simplify it and make pages for the applications too? You don't use the applications button often anyway as much as your homescreen. The only thing I don't like is the random color backgrounds. They could've left those out.
I don't use any samsung widgets and it's TW is faster than Launcherpro and on the same tier as ADW.
I do need to use a better file explorer though, myfiles is a bit too basic. You should try ES explorer since astro has ads now. File operations, views, and etc. are perfect.
This is also my first Android phone (had 3G and 3GS before), but as far as I can tell, almost none of the things you guys like are Touchwiz-specific. They are just Android features or apps.
Touchwiz is the homescreen manager. Replace it with Launcher Pro and you'll see what changes (and also see the 95% that stays the same).
I use Launcher Pro because it 1) is quick to swipe between screens, with no stutter; 2) has the ability to "pinch" the screen or hit the Home button to do a mac-like "expose" of all the home screens for fast switching to the exact page you want; 3) has the ability to have the 3D Apps drawer, which is much better than the dumb iPhone-like one (and don't even get me started on the "alphabetical list" that only shows one column of apps); and 4) the bottom icon bar can hold up to 15 launchers that you can swipe back and forth from any screen.
You can still swipe the notification bar for brightness, music player works the same, the lock screen is the same, all the apps that come on the phone are still there and accessible, you can customize it exactly the same as the Touchwiz homescreen...basically everything mentioned is the same. Except Launcher Pro is faster, easier to use, and prettier. Yes, you lose the Samsung widgets, but they all have replacements in the market.
only loss i see is the media from lock screen. I can live without it. Just try launcher pro a maybe u will feel the diff in speed or maybe u will sacrifice some speed for pretty widgets.
caelestis2 said:
You're definitely not alone. I too thought I was going to replace touchwiz, but I find it to be smooth and awesome! I was just about to make a duplicate thread of this one asking who kept touchwiz.
Add another these your list:
You can rearrange pages.
Swype to call/txt
Touch top dots to swap screens.
I like the status bar music player and wireless toggles. That is the perfect place to put them. I like the transparent sliding lockscreen, and the music player on the lock screen.
I thought the side scrolling of the applications would be annoying, but then I realized that it unifies the mechanism of icon pages. The home screen has pages for all homescreen apps. Why not simplify it and make pages for the applications too? You don't use the applications button often anyway as much as your homescreen. The only thing I don't like is the random color backgrounds. They could've left those out.
I don't use any samsung widgets and it's TW is faster than Launcherpro and on the same tier as ADW.
I do need to use a better file explorer though, myfiles is a bit too basic. You should try ES explorer since astro has ads now. File operations, views, and etc. are perfect.
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I also dislike the random colored backgrounds, in the app drawer. Does anyone know where those graphic files are? I want to replace the images with straight black images so they will blend into the app drawer background seemlessly.
They are the only reason I will not use TW. I hate those damn backgrounds.
chvybeatsford said:
only loss i see is the media from lock screen. I can live without it. Just try launcher pro a maybe u will feel the diff in speed or maybe u will sacrifice some speed for pretty widgets.
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I still have the music player access from the lock screen, with Launcher Pro. Just use the music player, lock the phone, hit the power button, drag the little half-cd icon down, and good to go.
You lost that?
k2snowboards88 said:
Touch wiz adds so many nice little tweaks that add up to big improvements. I love everything in your list and would like to add the amazing brightness control by swyping the top bar.
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OMG, can't believe I didn't notice that before. That's awesome.
I have to say I am also impressed with the Touch Wiz UI. I am coming from a sense device and was very unimpressed with HTC Sense. That UI kind of took over the phone. TouchWiz doesn't really take over much it just adds some kewl extra options.
asrrin29 said:
I saw the screenshots for Touchwiz before I bought the phone was was convinced that it'd be the first thing to go. In fact, simply because of the dock at the bottom I was still convinced I was going to drop it when I picked up the phone. then I discovered that you can change which applications show up on the dock! It's so much more customizable than I had previously thought, and it's not as laggy as I imagined it would have been. And it really does have a lot of nice little tweaks. I'm quite happy with it.
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How do you change the applications on the dock. I can't find it.
KewlRobD said:
How do you change the applications on the dock. I can't find it.
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you must go into the applications menu, and press the menu button, and change the ViewType to "Customizable Grid" Then you can hit the menu button again, and press Edit, and it will allow you to delete icons, rearrange icons, and drag them to the app dock.
asrrin29 said:
you must go into the applications menu, and press the menu button, and change the ViewType to "Customizable Grid" Then you can hit the menu button again, and press Edit, and it will allow you to delete icons, rearrange icons, and drag them to the app dock.
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Thanks my friend. I liked the applications layout so I had not bothered going into the edit menu.
autoxer said:
This is also my first Android phone (had 3G and 3GS before), but as far as I can tell, almost none of the things you guys like are Touchwiz-specific. They are just Android features or apps.
Touchwiz is the homescreen manager. Replace it with Launcher Pro and you'll see what changes (and also see the 95% that stays the same).
I use Launcher Pro because it 1) is quick to swipe between screens, with no stutter; 2) has the ability to "pinch" the screen or hit the Home button to do a mac-like "expose" of all the home screens for fast switching to the exact page you want; 3) has the ability to have the 3D Apps drawer, which is much better than the dumb iPhone-like one (and don't even get me started on the "alphabetical list" that only shows one column of apps); and 4) the bottom icon bar can hold up to 15 launchers that you can swipe back and forth from any screen.
You can still swipe the notification bar for brightness, music player works the same, the lock screen is the same, all the apps that come on the phone are still there and accessible, you can customize it exactly the same as the Touchwiz homescreen...basically everything mentioned is the same. Except Launcher Pro is faster, easier to use, and prettier. Yes, you lose the Samsung widgets, but they all have replacements in the market.
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Touch wiz is not just a homescreen manager. Launcher pro is just a homescreen manager. When you load launcher pro you still get all of touch wiz's small and useful enhancements that wouldn't be available on vanilla android.
k2snowboards88 said:
Touch wiz is not just a homescreen manager. Launcher pro is just a homescreen manager. When you load launcher pro you still get all of touch wiz's small and useful enhancements that wouldn't be available on vanilla android.
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Yeah, all our points are valid to touchwiz. If you say they stay with launcher pro, thats because touchwiz is still running.
If you don't like sidescrolling appplication then why do you sidescroll homescreens?
Edit: Oh one more thing to add to the list:
Music player has virtual surround sound that makes a noticeable difference!
I also much prefer the tw launcher over any of the others I have tried. I have tried pretty much all of them too. I like the way the app drawer works. I like that when you select an app, then return to the app drawer, it remembers where you were. I also like the sliding setup vs an app drawer that just scrolls up or down. The icon backgrounds make it easier for me to see the apps and find them.
There are a lot of other nice touches to the overall Android experience as well. The changes they made to the corporate mail client are great. I also like the changes to the notification bar and I really like the lock screen.
Not to mention how the Black/Blue theme looks over the standard, nasty looking Android theme. Everything from the dialer to the status bar is a major improvement(not a detraction) over stock Android. But it's still not as obtrusive as Sense.
I'm liking TW as well, however from a launcher perspective I much more prefer the Launcher Pro (Expose`, the 3D App Drawer, customizable icons, etc).
I agree, after i got rid of the samsung widgets and went to a normal wallpaper and it doesnt lag at all.

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keeps getting better, thanks!
One thing I mentioned in email I wanted to bring up here for others feedback is that if I choose to not have the screen indicator at the top of the screen, and I hide the status bar, the few pixels reserved for the screen identifier should be given back/not used anymore.
I wont keep repeating how great work you guys deliver
1 point of improvement:
On my X10 it's impossible to resize the widgets...
Sorry, it works, this plonker forgot to enable it in settings
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I really like this launcher guys,great stuff. ill be honest, im still sticking with launcherpro FOR NOW, but im closely watching this app because its got great potential.
just a little suggestion: adding option to configure the press-icon highlight color...a lot of people are anal about their phone's appearance and the current yellow color can really counter-act with some peoples theme
just one mans opinion......keep up the great work!
I love your apps and this launcher is awsome.
Now i need a loooot of custom icons <----- any idea?
Add alphabet sorting in the app drawer folders
I really really like your apps
Actually I'm using all of them
Keep it up
BTW u got the best GUIs I've ever seen on an android apps
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How do I save the application settings??
Finally someone has done it!
Congratulation on this excellent home replacement. You are the first and only person to create in my opinion a better Home replacement than the default Galaxy S one. Doesn't need much improvement, maybe spring load the first and last app draw screens.
Very nice, and my thanks.
Add ability to choose custom docks and more homescreen rows x columns and im switching from lp.
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Nice launcher, really smooth. I've set the app drawer scrolling to portrait and I would really like the possibility to swype between all, recent and running apps.
Just a suggestion i'm already really appreciating your work!
Nice launcher and getting better constantly. However, I have had a problem of misplaced text label for the drawer taps for all the versions so far (see attached image). I have lcddensity=220 on Froyo, and have not tried on the standard 240.
It's a bit laggy for me at the moment and all widgets are gone after every reboot...
Too bad, because I love this launcher.
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The drawer's animation ruins all it's smoothness. Can you create an option to switch the drawers animation off ? Or change it with something smoother.
I really like this launcher, it's pretty clever.
I must say I do love this launcher, however after running it a couple of days it's showing up as a large battery consumer on my Droid Pro. (And unfortunanlty I can't afford to lose anymore battery on this device). LauncherPro normally runs 3-5% of my battery, and your launcher is pulling 10-12%.
Again, I'm a big fan, and definitely think this has potential, but until you guys can shave off some battery usage, I'm going to have to go back to LPro.
bwhite757 said:
I must say I do love this launcher, however after running it a couple of days it's showing up as a large battery consumer on my Droid Pro. (And unfortunanlty I can't afford to lose anymore battery on this device). LauncherPro normally runs 3-5% of my battery, and your launcher is pulling 10-12%.
Again, I'm a big fan, and definitely think this has potential, but until you guys can shave off some battery usage, I'm going to have to go back to LPro.
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I am in doubt going back to lpp too for the same reason. After setting go launcher as my defàult launcher, i lose around 8 till 10% an hour, which is way too much...
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How to disable the christman gift ?!
how to get out of christma theme!
steph-one said:
How to disable the christman gift ?!
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how to get out of christma theme?
go to dock setting for default style, and reset the wallpaper from preference menu.
Thank you
yeah it looks good
I'm having problems with my widgets not visually updating correctly on Galaxy Spica 2.2 (CM 6.1.1 alpha 8.2)
You can see an example here (look at the date of the calendar widget)
I have this on all my widgets, including the power widget

Sense 4 lock screen shortcuts

Remember how when the first ring lockscreen came about we could change the shortcuts?
It seems with Sense 4 they mimic what you have in the launcher bar. Can't change them unless you change the ones in the launcher.
That's kind of lame
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/18/change-lock-screen-apps-htc-sense-4/
seems pretty smart to me, if you put stuff on the launcher bar its a pretty good bet you are going to want to have fast access to those apps.
I agree - so need to get creative with just the 4 choices. Luckily ICS allows shortcut folders. Decision on whether you want something 1 click or 2+.
There's gotta be an XML edit that can be made to Rosie or , wait, wouldn't be rosie, damn, I'm trying to remember the name of what controls lockscreen. Haven't run sense in almost a year, will edit when I remember. Sorry
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I think it makes since to use the dock icons too. Here's the issue I have with the lock screen:
I have my lock screen set up to show notifications, buttons when I receive a text message it only shows the number and not the contact name. Is there a setting I'm missing?
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Fusion apk. That's what I was trying to remember. XML edits in fusion would probably break the dependency. IDK, haven't had a chance to look at sense 4 yet.
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I did notice that if you using a launcher like Apex then you can set up the short cuts you want on your lock screen by setting them in sense the go back to apex and set the ones you want in your dock there.
phatboypat said:
I think it makes since to use the dock icons too. Here's the issue I have with the lock screen:
I have my lock screen set up to show notifications, buttons when I receive a text message it only shows the number and not the contact name. Is there a setting I'm missing?
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How does it make sense to limit customization? That doesn't make sense lol the camera for instance isn't on my dock bar, but I would love that to be on the lockscreen, which I could do on 3.6.
Yeah, annoyed with that also... For example, I want access to Spotify on lockscreen, but don't need it in my dock all the time. :/
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Widget locker is an option.
Actually, it works perfect for me. I hate the Sense launcher, so I use Nova (Similar to ICS-Stock). I just put the 4 apps I want from the loackscreen on the sense launcher tray, and then never open the launcher again.
+1 on an alternate launcher.
Using Apex and liking it better than stock given the fact that I can now have some gesture support on the home screen AND have different dock icons than lock screen icons.

Collapsible Widgets and Widgets on Lockscreen? Jelly Bean 4.2?

New to Android. Loved having essentially what I call 'collapsible widgets' on my old iPhone 4 on the lockscreen (jailbreak.) Essentially when text messages, emails, calendar event reminders, or even SportCenter updates came in, they would show up in a widget on the lockscreen (ala Intelliscreen X app) and you could do an action (like delete/clear the notification), or you could collapse the widget so that there was just a header like 'SMS Messages (3)' with 3 being the number of unread and you could uncollapse it to see the messages. The widgets would just always stack up together. If they didn't all fit, you could scroll down to see them. If all the info in a particular widget that was open didn't fit in the widget's window, you could scroll down to see the rest of the info. All this was done on the lockscreen.
Granted, I didn't have any sensitive information to worry about people seeing. But you could choose, just like Android what shows up and what doesn't.
In running Jelly Bean 4.1 with Sense+ (4.5) on the HTC One X+, I found I had to install WidgetLock to get control of the widgets on the lockscreen. I'm using Pure Calander Widget Agenda and the widget stays the same size no matter if there are no events listed or 20 events. Sort of a waste of lockscreen space.
Is collapsible and/or scrolling widgets just something that is extremely rare for some reason? It looks like maybe the stock Sense 'Productivity' Lock Screen Theme sort of does this (from looking at it - but I've been using WidgetLock from the beginning). The problem with the HTC Sense is the configurability of the lockscreen isn't as flexible as I would like. I wish I could control which apps are in the dock on the lockscreen and how many there are (add app icons to lock screen) and how transparent the widget showing the info is. I hate the big clock too but want the productivity widget (the clock is always on the right in the notification bar - no need to waste space redisplaying it larger - my eyes are fine!)
Also, on Jelly Bean 4.2, I think I read you can add widgets to the lock screen. So does JB 4.2 essentially defeat the purpose of Widget Lock. I love that Widget Lock lets you go from a 4x4 grid to 5x6 (or whatever you want) so I can have 6 docked apps on the lockscreen and there isn't such big spaces between everything. I hope so as I can see the HTC Sense lockscreen sometimes come on for a moment before it gets replaced by Widget Lock. Makes me feel like I have a bit of a hokey setup to get what I want.
iOS had this same issue. But in 5 they greatly improved the lockscreen functionality. Then iOS finally introduced repeating notification settings. That's the next thing Android needs. But that's another subject. Still love JB 4.1. Does the job. Nothing's perfect.
Yes HTC does not allow you to change it's lockscreen. Much like on an iPhone, you would need to root and install custom apps (or apps like widgetlocker) to get the functionality you are looking for.
That said, this is the General forum for the HTC One XL. You would be looking for Q&A and also the OneX+ forums here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1814
Please keep all question related threads in Q&A only. Thank you.
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Good Lock transforms your notification tray into stock android feel.

Someone on reddit posted about an app called Good Lock in Galaxy Apps. My only gripe is the recents menu. Would have preferred the card view but I use the notification tray more so I'm keeping it. Looks very similar to stock android.
Pics attacked below.
Link? And that recent menu is awful...
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Link? And that recent menu is awful...
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http://www.sammobile.com/2016/03/29...screen-for-your-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge/
Here you Go....
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Things I've noticed:
Good:
Faster fingerprint unlock
Stock notification bar icons like OP said
Notification snoozing
Double tap to open app from lock screen notification
Bad:
Breaks Nova Launcher smooth notification drawer opening animation, back to the slow animation
No material theme, and any color you select retains a light theme for notifications
Recents menu is a mess
Only one of the lockscreen clocks supports alarm, the others just show an icon
video of fingerprint unlock speed, its pretty ludicrous:
https://youtu.be/QtRSWWz_0VM
Gif: http://i.imgur.com/jLckUvl.gifv
That itself is worth it for me.
Primary downsides is def the recents menu, but I can get used to that. Also as mentioned above, the notification drawer speed when used on novalauncher/all in one gestures is really slow coming down
How do you change the theme? Dont really like purple...
Edit: ah, its a routine!
Video showcasing all the features.
Holy crap this is so much nicer.
Thanks OP.
For anyone wondering how to configure, fully extend the setting panel, then click the 2nd from the right cog.
I love it. I think as time goes on it will get more polished but I can't go back to stock anymore
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I really like what they have done with this,yep its got a few aesthetic issues with the color schemes but the way it handles notifications is good.It also needs options to alter the toggles and pick what you want,but for a first release this is quite good.
I liked it, but had to uninstall it again. It didn't keep apps in memory for long, causing multitasking to be unusable. Shame really and I hope they fix it for the next version. Will keep an eye on this thing and see how it develops.
Nova Butter
jwhatts said:
Things I've noticed:
Bad:
Breaks Nova Launcher smooth notification drawer opening animation, back to the slow animation
In regards to this if you are rooted enable "Expand action using root" option in look and feel section of Nova Smooth as butter now..
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Definitely a work in progress, and the longer I ran it the buggier it seemed to get, but with a little work this would be worth it for the notification handling alone. It also made unlocking with a fingerprint virtually instantaneous.
I hope Samsung's watching these forums, because with a little work, and some more flexibility in terms of colors and toggles, this would definitely be my lockscreen of choice.

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