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please someone help me out here, my galaxy s takes close to 30 mins to boot since i got it rooted and cant tell why. i have already turned off all start up apps and left only the market and autokill apps. i also have android optimiser and andbox that i also use to kill apps sometimes ...........please what can i do to get it back to booting fast. when i put it off and on the apps dont load fast............it keeps cycling till like 20-30 mins b4 all the apps will appear and i only have only 180 apps on my galaxy s
Only 180 apps
Hard reset is in order here, and i really recommend not using 'app killers' or 'optimisers' in future.
Try deleting apps which you dont use they take up ram and all
how do i do hard reset...................? are there any problems with it?
It will return your ROM to a pristine state.
Phone Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset.
DirkGently1 said:
It will return your ROM to a pristine state.
Phone Settings/Privacy/Factory data reset.
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Task killers destabalize your system, and may very well be the root of your problem by killing apps that just keep restarting, keeping your start up process from being able to make any progress in the mean time. If you don't know that you know how to use a task killer, you shouldn't install it.
ok so when i reset data, is it gonna remove my root........i mean will i loose root?
mortallkombat said:
ok so when i reset data, is it gonna remove my root........i mean will i loose root?
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You will lose Root unless you are using a Custom ROM with Root built in. It does sound like the Reset is needed though and to re-root would only take a few minutes.
Putting 180 Apps back on may take considerably longer though
ok, thanks again i will try n do that if the problem persists
Hey guys,
I have my Nexus S (9023 variant) for some good 4 months now and I'm still quite happy with it!
Running unrooted stock 2.3.4 version.
However, I seem to feel like the phone is getting a bit jerkier / sluggish than it used to be before. I've noticed an increase in battery consumption of the Android OS process (not the system one) as opposed to before (like in a 100%-0% charge, it used to be 1-2 minutes, now it can go up to 10 mins time usage).. Sometimes going from one app to the other seems to have a noticeable lag. Sometimes the Google Music player is just slow to start playing... sometimes even the swiping of the home screens dies.
Also I used to have 2 days battery life and now some 1.5 days (which forces me to charge every night).
I would suspect than an increase on the Androis OS process would mean an increase in internal task switching.
How can one alleviate the problem ? Is there a way to sort of "cleanup" the system ? Does it degrade over time needing a factory reset or something ? I have some applications installed (some of them I hardly use though) but I suspect that even though those optimizations have their notifications disabled, they can be reacting to some kind of low-level OS events..
Anyway thanks for any thoughts guys!
What ROM are you running? And I would suspect that apps are the main problem if it persists after a reboot.
Stock 2.3.4, unrooted
Guess it's on to uninstall some apps then
Factory reset would solve all your problems I assume. Pity you are not rooted so you can back up your ROM.
I'm actually thinking of rooting soon, because I made some video recordings in a concert and they were plain horrible (distorted). So I might try to install a kernel with voodoo.
I guess I can always manually backup for once...
I have the google services backup activated... doesn't it mean that I can restore all my apps after a factory reset ?
https://market.android.com/details?id=tw.nicky.CleanCache
You can use that to clean up your caches. I suspect a lot of programs installed or one or a few that are pulling your performance down. You could go about this in a few different ways. One is to uninstall everything you've downloaded from the market. That should give you a boost. Or you can start uninstalling programs one at a time until you see your performance increase then that's your culprit. Another idea is to delete all your SMS, MMS, and voicemail. I've seen people with hundreds of texts that after deleting them, notice an improvement.
A cache and dalvic cache wipe would help speed things up. Hopefully that market app above can do both. Normally done through a custom recovery.
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read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231840&highlight=slow+crawl
it'll give you good ideas on how to make it faster again
mindwalkr said:
Hey guys,
I have my Nexus S (9023 variant) for some good 4 months now and I'm still quite happy with it!
Running unrooted stock 2.3.4 version.
However, I seem to feel like the phone is getting a bit jerkier / sluggish than it used to be before. I've noticed an increase in battery consumption of the Android OS process (not the system one) as opposed to before (like in a 100%-0% charge, it used to be 1-2 minutes, now it can go up to 10 mins time usage).. Sometimes going from one app to the other seems to have a noticeable lag. Sometimes the Google Music player is just slow to start playing... sometimes even the swiping of the home screens dies.
Also I used to have 2 days battery life and now some 1.5 days (which forces me to charge every night).
I would suspect than an increase on the Androis OS process would mean an increase in internal task switching.
How can one alleviate the problem ? Is there a way to sort of "cleanup" the system ? Does it degrade over time needing a factory reset or something ? I have some applications installed (some of them I hardly use though) but I suspect that even though those optimizations have their notifications disabled, they can be reacting to some kind of low-level OS events..
Anyway thanks for any thoughts guys!
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Nice ideas guys!!
Think I will try to install titanium backup and backup my apps. And since I'm on it, I will also root my phone and install the net archy kernel cause the last time I took my phone to a concert I ended up with 1 hour of unusable footage due to sound issues.
Let me begin by saying I have a rooted Infuse with Infused 2.2.3 Gingerbread and the Infusion Kernel.
As I use the Infuse over the course of the week, apps get started up and slowly my memory goes down. I can shut off some apps manually, but some refuse to get turned off, even by ram clearing apps and manual rooted actions.
Whenever I want to speed my phone up again and free up Ram, I have to reset my phone.
My question is how would I go about clearing the ram on my phone back to the 'phone-on' starting position, when my apps have yet to be activated?
I have used Advanced Task Killer to attempt this and it does not permanently close apps. I have also used Autokiller Memory Module to close programs, but they also do not stay closed (Is there something to Chuck Norris mode?).
Does anyone know a way to clear the ram back to that point? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Check this out to know more about Android memory management
You do NOT need any memory managers to manage. Let android manage memory.
Please actually read!
Please read my statement before you answer.
Once again, my phone's internal memory manager works FINE, but it does over time get bogged down by too many apps trying to start at once.
My ONLY question: Can I reset the phone's memory back to a reset state without resetting my phone?
Thanks for anyone who knows an answer to this!
sonomar said:
Please read my statement before you answer.
Once again, my phone's internal memory manager works FINE, but it does over time get bogged down by too many apps trying to start at once.
My ONLY question: Can I reset the phone's memory back to a reset state without resetting my phone?
Thanks for anyone who knows an answer to this!
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Read again:
Apps don't start at once, nor compete. Based on usage of apps, OS loads them into RAM, and keeps them there. The amount of RAM to be always left free is set initially. Rest of the RAM is filled here. Apps filled like this do NOT use CPU. They use CPU only when they are invoked, or backgrounded.
Say you are done working with an app, and use the exit function in it. It just signals OS its end, but the app is not cleaned out of RAM. It is kept until it is invoked again, or pushed out until more free RAM than available is needed or when pushed out manually using task manager.
When any app wants more RAM than what is available, the preloaded ones are pushed out, and this app is loaded.
Too many apps compete for CPU and memory when a user starts hitting "home" button instead of "back" button. Home button pushes apps to background wherein the back button signals u r out of the app. This sets the app to be pushed out of RAM as needed.
I use pretty many apps, and sometimes go on for over a week without bothering to use any task manager to clear out RAM nor noticing any lag.
And to be specific to your question:
There is no time like initial start time until the phone is rebooted again. If u give the phone some time to settle after u reboot it, u can see apps being to memory, be it that they are invoked by you or not. Even if ATK or any task killer kills them, OS respawns them over time based on ur usage of them.
Thanks, I'll try pushing the back button more often and see if that works...though for google apps that usually isn't allowed.
The problem is that even with Android's automatic system, I'm still being given "Low Memory" warnings on all my apps within a few days of rebooting.
I dunno, I think that currently the only real solution is to reboot my phone bi-daily, but I really was hoping there was a way to reset the OS ram without a full reboot.
Again, thanks anyway!
sonomar said:
Thanks, I'll try pushing the back button more often and see if that works...though for google apps that usually isn't allowed.
The problem is that even with Android's automatic system, I'm still being given "Low Memory" warnings on all my apps within a few days of rebooting.
I dunno, I think that currently the only real solution is to reboot my phone bi-daily, but I really was hoping there was a way to reset the OS ram without a full reboot.
Again, thanks anyway!
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Maybe u have too many apps open. Not sure what's the case on ur phone. Personally I never faced this low memory issue so far.
By the way, I froze up certain system apps (in tibu) (even deleted some) that I don't use, like Google search, etc cos these r always loaded and I never use them.
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I have the same problem
sonomar said:
Let me begin by saying I have a rooted Infuse with Infused 2.2.3 Gingerbread and the Infusion Kernel.
As I use the Infuse over the course of the week, apps get started up and slowly my memory goes down. I can shut off some apps manually, but some refuse to get turned off, even by ram clearing apps and manual rooted actions.
Whenever I want to speed my phone up again and free up Ram, I have to reset my phone.
My question is how would I go about clearing the ram on my phone back to the 'phone-on' starting position, when my apps have yet to be activated?
I have used Advanced Task Killer to attempt this and it does not permanently close apps. I have also used Autokiller Memory Module to close programs, but they also do not stay closed (Is there something to Chuck Norris mode?).
Does anyone know a way to clear the ram back to that point? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I have a tablet android 4.1. After some time I don't have runing apps and I don't have free memory. I don't have running tasks, I don't have cashed tasks. And I don't have free memory. After this critical point the tablet needs restart. Of course after restart everything works fine, for some hours. After sleep the above critical point comes quicker... The problem seems to me like driver or software problem but I can't be sure... I m searching for a similar solution for an app that can without restart, restart my ram, clear completely my ram, not task killing because at the end I don't have tasks to kill... It looks like somehow a garbage ram is created after some time, that kills my ram. It looks like virus but it is not virus as the device is new and I have check for viruses...
Just get the app Startup Manager, stop all user apps (except some that you do want to run), apply, and reboot
Cache cleaner free from the market. I use cache cleaner ng.
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Quick and easy approach - use Fast Reboot.
Brings the phone to like-rebooted condition... in about 5 seconds.
Normally don't need it, but occasionally phone gets bogged down and this clears it right up.
Free program.
Another step - a little more work - Find the programs that are running with a service and get rid of them if you don't need them... or use Gemini Apps manager to block auto-start. Google Maps is a good one to block auto start of.
My MT4GS has some serious RAM issues. I even think it may have leaky or bad RAM. Basically, Android will close background apps to make room to run new apps, right? So here's what mine does: When I load an app, Sense closes. And when I try and play games like Draw Something which require a second app (FB mobile) to log in, it closes Sense AND Draw Something. So I'll tap Draw Something, it'll load, then switch to FB Mobile, log in, then switch back to Draw Something but because it closed Draw Something it has to start loading from scratch, requiring a new log in, then when it does that it closes Draw Something again. It basically creates an infinite loop, if I let it run without hitting back (several times) or home. And then I get to wait for Sense again.
I've tried third party RAM apps and they don't seem to help. (I don't understand how they could anyway.) So I'm hoping someone has a solution outside of rooting.
But if not, I've never rooted a device of any kind before. So I'm really apprehensive to try it without detailed knowledge of every step required. And if I rooted, I'd probably want a new ROM, yes? I've heard Bulletproof is nice, but I don't know a lot about others.
All help is appreciated. Thank you.
Rooting is no big deal. We could have you rooted in 15 minutes. I believe achieving "S-Off" is what you're trying to avoid......even though it's not too bad either. But it sounds like you may have used up any swap file your system has & could stand a bit more. Probably installed quite a few apps that are running in the background. You could probably reformat your SD Card to Ext4 and get rid of the issue but you'll need a custom recovery. That's how it sounds to me anyway.
WeekendsR2Short said:
Rooting is no big deal. We could have you rooted in 15 minutes. I believe achieving "S-Off" is what you're trying to avoid......even though it's not too bad either. But it sounds like you may have used up any swap file your system has & could stand a bit more. Probably installed quite a few apps that are running in the background. You could probably reformat your SD Card to Ext4 and get rid of the issue but you'll need a custom recovery. That's how it sounds to me anyway.
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I do have a few background apps, but I've tried to avoid a ton and I only have one widget running.
I'm willing to do what I need to to get my phone working the way it was intended.
GiftigDegen said:
My MT4GS has some serious RAM issues. I even think it may have leaky or bad RAM. Basically, Android will close background apps to make room to run new apps, right? So here's what mine does: When I load an app, Sense closes. And when I try and play games like Draw Something which require a second app (FB mobile) to log in, it closes Sense AND Draw Something. So I'll tap Draw Something, it'll load, then switch to FB Mobile, log in, then switch back to Draw Something but because it closed Draw Something it has to start loading from scratch, requiring a new log in, then when it does that it closes Draw Something again. It basically creates an infinite loop, if I let it run without hitting back (several times) or home. And then I get to wait for Sense again.
I've tried third party RAM apps and they don't seem to help. (I don't understand how they could anyway.) So I'm hoping someone has a solution outside of rooting.
But if not, I've never rooted a device of any kind before. So I'm really apprehensive to try it without detailed knowledge of every step required. And if I rooted, I'd probably want a new ROM, yes? I've heard Bulletproof is nice, but I don't know a lot about others.
All help is appreciated. Thank you.
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Ouutside of root...factory reset and watch what you install...there's little chance for a permanent fix outside of root though...inside root...or once your rooted...use es task manager and es startup manager...my mytouch was doing something very similas until rooted...also the v6 super charger will definitely help once your rooted...
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If you root (Very easy to HBOOT unlock, flash recovery, flash root if you use the Toolkit in the development forum) then you can check out an app like Greenify maybe.
try the app "fast reboot" by great bytes software. Been using it since i got a doubleshot, it really helps.
I've done all of the above and flashed miktouch. It's much faster. Ands I'm giving fast reboot a go.
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Hello,
I just changed my phone, the xperia Z2 to Z5. I then reinstalled much of my app, and I must admit it already lag.
There is not an app that blocks the app auto start, and shut them truly when i closed? (without rooting the phone, I'd avoid gun down right away my warranty ^^)
Thank you !
cherubin13 said:
Hello,
I just changed my phone, the xperia Z2 to Z5. I then reinstalled much of my app, and I must admit it already lag.
There is not an app that blocks the app auto start, and shut them truly when i closed? (without rooting the phone, I'd avoid gun down right away my warranty ^^)
Thank you !
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There's functionality to disable selected apps,
disabling Autostart unfortunately isn't possible on the stock ROM
You could try out https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rs.autorun&hl=en , https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=imoblife.startupmanager
but in the most cases the phone needs to be rooted for these kind of tools to be efficient
Thanks for your quick response, do you know a method to root the phone without loosing the warranty ?
How the hell did you manage to make a 3GB RAM device lag?
Do you use any of those boosters, battery savers, AV's or any other crapware like this?
Yes, I use this kind of tools... Apus, Clean Master, app like that. Do you think they are bull**** ?
I don't know of it exist an app or a option to export all my ram consuming to show you.
There you go. They are all bull$hit. You do not need any of this crap. Uninstall them, give clean master and those other boosters 1 star rating and the device magically becomes faster.
Also be sure to uninstall that AVG as well that came with Z5 (mine did come with it) you honestly don't need that either.
Android can handle it's RAM itself.
Here's a quick and easy guide..
1. Navigate to Settings>Apps
2. Force Stop and disable ALL bloatware and unnecessary Apps..
(just keep in mind, when disabling an App, you MUST also disable the app.. Force stopping it alone won't stop it from restarting).
3. Navigate to Settings>Storage and Clear cache..
4. Reboot device and enjoy a more stable and lag free device, and better battery life.
Oh I almost forgot...
Don't install any of those bulls*** useless battery saving apps, or virus scanners etc.. They do absolutely nothing for your device except take up space, ram and cause the device to lag because of constantly running in the background.. I have trialed many of those apps on previous devices and they did nothing but waste space and ram and cause the device to heat up faster than normal. Since then I've had many android devices and never installed any of those crap apps and haven't had any problems with battery, malware, performance etc..
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The Z5 has KSM Enabled by default meaning that it will clean up duplicate info aswell as fairly agressive OOM
You shouldent easily run out of ram but just to keep performance up keep away from the following apps, e.g disable or uninstall
Google search
Google maps
Google photos
Facebook
Any performance boosters or ram cleaners
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Hi guys,i bought a Z5 e6653 and having so many issues.1,the bluetooth keeps switching itself on.2;the screen display never go off even when I press d power button. 3; when I snap pictures,it deletes after a while.i found out that the phone takes itself to reset at intervals bc all the settings I make dosent save.i did d update to 7.1 but after rebooting,the update wiped nd it came back to the previous version which is 7.0,any help pls?
buggy armani said:
Hi guys,i bought a Z5 e6653 and having so many issues.1,the bluetooth keeps switching itself on.2;the screen display never go off even when I press d power button. 3; when I snap pictures,it deletes after a while.i found out that the phone takes itself to reset at intervals bc all the settings I make dosent save.i did d update to 7.1 but after rebooting,the update wiped nd it came back to the previous version which is 7.0,any help pls?
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Flash stock firmware with flashtool, choose to wipe everything