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Looks like we can merge with the Desire Hd forum

With source dropping for the dhd and how easy interoperability between our phones is do we need 2 different forums? Seems it would be easier on you guys if things merged.
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I agree. Now that the source is out it would make sense.
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it would be much easier for the DEVS which is more important. they wouldnt have to maintain 2 different threads for the same ROM, Theme or Kernel as well..

Very good point.
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so how do we initiate this or would the Mods even entertain this idea at this point since both forums have been established..

I suggest we work with the mods on this. I'll report my own thread to get some eyes on it.
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sounds like a plan..

yes please merge us!

I agree with this. There's a lot of threads I've seen today that are directing you to the DHD forum for further information/troubleshooting - why not make them the same rather than having to post everything twice, or making devs/users have to jump back and forth?

I have to disagree. I prefer the forums seperate.
I could care less what the people in Europe are doing with their Desire HDs. The Inspire is a US phone on AT&T. It has a seperate identity.
Keep in mind even though they are pretty much the same phone, they run on different networks, have different radio software, and are supported by different cell providers. People's experiences will be different than their European counterparts.
Please keep them seperate.

you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?

bkeaver said:
you do realize that almost everything in our forums are from the europe DHD forums right??? so why have 2?
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I think 2 just to keep it simpler. so that the threads arent filled with issues from the inspire in the desire thread and desire in an inspire thread.

if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...

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if the dev part is merged to make it better for them is one thing, but you still need att specific sub forum for all the posts that are att specific.
The Dev secton right now is NOT the biggest part of this device forum, all the att specific issues are...
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A European ROM flashed with the kernel just released by apache14 works out of the box with no further user tweaking.
I have a feeling that all the rom chefs of Europe will be building their own kernels based on the source that dropped yesterday which is universal, and includes the variations to the American and Canadian DHDs.
I agree that a sub forum may be needed in General but not Dev.

yeah I'm not seeing anything that makes this device any different from the DHD device. The DHD forum isn't limited to 1 single carrier so i'm still not seeing your point of keeping it separate...
worst case scenario look at how the Motorola Milestone and Verizon Drioid forum is laid out.. maybe something similar
and besides the DEV section will start becoming the biggest part of our forums now that ROMS and Kernels are out

Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.

there is always the search function. That always helps. Besides where as I know that not ALL people root and load custom roms there are a good portion that do and since that is what the majority do on XDA (D=Developers) then I don't know how relevant your argument is on that one.
did you look at the motorola forum I previously mentioned to you?

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Also keep in mind that there are a lot of people who like me have no intention of rooting or modding their phone. So the DEV section is useless to people like me.
I used to jailbreak my iPhone for years, but got bored doing it. The only reason I flashed a custom ROM on my Captivate was cause you had to, being that the stock 2.1 was terrible.
Currently outside of the fact that the back speaker is terrible on the Inspire, I am completely happy the way the phone is. I don't feel I need to flash custom ROMs to get a phone to work the way it should. The Inspire currently works just dandy.
So don't assume everyone is into modding.
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Why are you using this forum then? No offense but if I wasn't in to modding my device I would use another less development oriented one like androidforum or something. Most people on xda DEVELOPERS are into development. But I am with you on keeping the dhd and inspire forums separate or at least the dev sections and my only logic on that is because of the sound issues but if the source being released fixes this than I guess there's no point. As far as general I could care less.......
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Although I am not really into custom ROMs, I still think this is a great forum to hang out. Plus I think you get a more mature crowd on here who are a bit more techie oriented.
I also read on Androidforums.com and like how they have a separate section for every phone. I think it works, but then again on there I don't think you get the same kind of conversations as you get on here.
As far as what Gunny said, I don't really see a lot of DesireHD stuff in the general section of the Inspire forum. I am sure you do in the DEV section, but so far almost all the threads I see in here are all about the Inspire.

i would be curious to add a poll to this thread.. so far I am only seeing 1 maybe 2 people that may not agree. I'd love to see what general consensus states...

Nexus S 4G DEV Sub Forum?

YOu think its possible if we can split up the Nexus S DEV section, its really getting littered with ROMs (which is good) but its now a bit confusing to see all the different ROMs mixed up. Not that that its HARD to to really distinguish which ROM goes to which device, its more annoying than anything.
Anyone agree? maybe get a new sub forum for the NS4G, they are really 2 totally different devices if you think about it

i think its fine, i just think the titles need to be changed, have the phone tag all the way to the left to make it easier to scroll by

I say no. I have had a lot of help from fellow NS owners some things are the same. Just read the OP before flashing. Or test on your own to see if new (2.3.4) roms work with your device. And as always have a good backup.

Looks like the Admins agreed. I didnt have ANY issues with distinguishing 4g from NS ROMs, my thing was the clutter aspect

Agreed and thank you to the admins.
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New Nexus S 4g android development section created!

[Q] New guy - is XDA for me?

Hey guys!
Did some some searching around on this site and couldn't even find a mention of my device. I just recently bought a Huawei Y210C android phone. It is a Chinese manufacturer, which might explain the sparsity of information in English about it.
Anyway, about me, I do some programming in Java, and I want to eventually be making android apps. I also want to root my huawei, try some different ROMs on it and stuff. Now, as far as android development goes, I'm a pure beginner. Does it matter that there aren't people talking specifically about my phone, or can I snag some 'how to root' guides from other devices and ROMs, etc., and use them effectively, or would I have to figure out how to root it on my own?
Essentially, what I am asking is: given that there is no sub-forum for my device, and that I'm a dev noob, will I find useful stuff around here?
cheers

For anyone, and everyone , unless your gonna hack XDA, or blow the servers up then NO! otherwise yes, and you are very welcome if you ask me . Always nice seeing another XDA member. You may or may not know shiz about flashing a ROM, or kernel, or unlocking bootloaders, etc, etc, but that's why there are tutorials to get people started
Everything you needed to get started should be here , welcome to XDA
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949604
As far as your phone. You can for sure utilize XDA, I just did a search and there's not really much of anything for your phone, but you can for sure still post stuff you make for it on here . I'm pretty sure you could utilize the 'Android Developing and Hacking' or 'Legacy&Low Activity Devices' to post your work for that phone .
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XDA is a great information resource for pretty much anything Android related. Being that you have a desire to develop apps I'm 99.9999% positive there is someone on XDA that'll help you out any way they can if you have any questions. In the end though only you can answer your own question. Joining XDA was one of the best choices I have made and now its inspired me to learn the Python language and then I'll tackle Java lol.
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need dev help BIG time

We with the samsung admire 4g need some good person/peoples help with gaining root access for our phone,ive tried all the easy/one click methods to no avail ive been to most forums and nothing anywhere,i mostly stay on the phandroid site its always helped me with my past androids but no luck with my new one,and i know xda has some of the best around so any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated

I looked around and this pretty much sums it up: "To root this phone, which I also have, you need to look up the guide for s-off as well as rooting using Linux. There is no other way as of now because the phone isn`t popular amongst the modding community. No one has made a script or even a guide for that matter, but I found out the hard way and the distribution model is s-on. Good luck. I`ve already done this, but with no clockwork recovery or mods available, it is utterly pointless unless you`re a developer. Seeing as how you asked this question, I`m assuming you`re not. Sorry. Maybe the devs will spread the love one day, but by then you`ll most likely have a newer, better phone. I know I will. Try using adw launcher and power toggles. I managed to create a righteous theme using those and a white marble stock photo to blend with the phones shell. Good stuff."
I hope this gives closure to your question.

[Q] What phone is good for customization?

Well, I'm looking for a phone in the 300-400 dollar range that is good for customization. I mean I don't want to have to do any ridiculous things to unlock the bootloader, and the phone should have already have a somewhat decent development (in Xda for ROMs, etc.). Basically I have a Galaxy S4 but the bootloader is locked and I don't feel like using safestrap so I just want to buy a new phone, but I want to make sure I can customize it without any locked bootloaders or flashing restrictions.

HeySwiftLeeO,
If you are looking for an easy phone to customize with the ability to get a good development community and a token to unlock the bootloader, you need to look at all the HTC phones that HTC lists as dev devices. HTC has a great forum on their dev site and they really are quite good about getting back to you if you have specific question. I have modded several HTC devices including the Vivid and the One and each time was a great experience. And if you are looking to mod the hardware as well HTC'S architecture is a real pleasure to work with and there are a ton of 3rd party Chinese manufacturers that make the mods cheaper and less expensive than trying to do similar things with Samsung or Sony where the parts are twice as expensive. I would recommend starting with either the One X or the One because they used those as dev devices and there is a ton of support with both HTC and other developers on the forums. There is also a big community on these forums for those phones and there are plenty of ROMs to choose from which always helps when you are looking for a ROM that best suits your needs.
I hope this helps you and if you have any questions feel free to ask.

Without doubt, a Nexus device
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Nexus 5 of course
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There are 3 threads devoted to discussions about devices, please repost your question in one of these three threads: The what should I buy thread or the The Device Suggestion Thread or the The Device Comparison Thread.
Thanks!