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Hi!
For those of us with SBK v2...should we just upgrade to last OTA?
As in those working on achieving root will focus on ICS
What do you think?
If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.
its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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wildestpixel said:
its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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This is a question, not a statement but wouldn't keeping to a rootable rom with SBK2 still make sense? I could use Razorclaw with my tab until 8.6.5.21 but had to downgrade (a struggle) in order to reroot after update.
This is and has always been the solution for a device so difficult to root (you don't just oem unlock from fastboot!!!!).
Never flash anything that itself doesn't contain :
- Insecure kernel
- Superuser.apk
- Superuser binary
- Busybox
- FOTAKILL.apk
Which is essentially a custom rom even if otherwise stock.
For ICS - wait for the download to be intercepted from cache (OTA) or available on ASUS website in full and then let someone do the rooting of the ROM - just has someone like daoist has for TF.
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pjfriend said:
If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.
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ICS is just as simple to root as any other Android OS as far as the ROM goes. New kernels ranging 3.08 through 3.16 at present have the same structure for ro.secure=0 for making them insecure - they are the only real different bit. The ROMs vary little to GB or froyo in their build up.
I've rooted and insecured a couple of Nexus S ROMs on the Nexus S forum just to help people who don't want the pain of going back to stock, reinstalling CWM and root just to be able to use ICS (along with deodex, zipalign and small systemui.apk tweaks).
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Thanks, you are a great source of knowledge!
Very much appreciated.
So I have SBK 2, on 8.4.4.11
Should I stay there?
Thanks!
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I would get root ASAP and go to something like Prime 2.11.
Use the 8.6.6.19 update bought to light by pjfriend get rooted ASAP I suppose. Do it whilst the tools are available to do it and then protect it by going to custom ROM.
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Thanks, whenever I star visiting a new Subforum I`m so lost!
Gonna do that now.
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Hello,
First, DO NOT Apply ASUS's ICS Upgrade when it comes out, let the development community work on it first.
Almost EVERY Android Device has been rooted, even when it is unrootable. It just takes time
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
I think what happens is people get antsy when a new update comes out and go all willy nilly installing stuff just to have it lol. So people dont go all willy nilly just wait a day or 2!
daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?
Like daoist says in every instance patience.
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RambJoe said:
Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?
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Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.
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Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.
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Yeah I think I'm WW.
Thanks.
as long as your roote once you should never have to root again... we will add ICS to our device just like we flash or install any rom to our advice.. with root already ther.... just as long as you dont update using official update or ruu file... you should be good for life! or if you send your **** to asus aint no tellin what it will come back on it
Edit : as for the ones that are bought with ics On them, only time will tell..
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daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.
kynetx said:
Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.
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You can "upgrade" to 8.6.6.19 worldwide if you have a supported tablet.
If with the upgrade to ICS there is no format of the system partition involved, then it should be possible with OTA Rootkeeper to keep root after upgrade.
Hey guys,
I will be getting my Infinity by Sunday and I was hoping you guys could help me out on powering and starting up my tablet.
It would really help me a lot (and also the other users there who are still confused on what to do) if someone could provide a step by step procedure into how we can make the best out of this tablet...
like (ROOTING --- to root or not to root?, UPDATING FIRMWARE, SUGGESTED APPS)
download links and instructional links would be really helpful here is as well...
hope someone would be kind enough to help
Thanks in advance...
Knowing more about your battery, performance and how to maximize it will yield longer play time and increase the life of your tablet. I would start reading and get familiar with it.
Here is a link, its also one of the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636
[HOW-TO] Battery saving tips
For Rooting and other helpful advice/tips/suggestions go here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798586
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
I would immediately update firmware when you receive your tablet and if you have a tf201 dock attach it and you should get an update notice for your keyboard dock.
Congrats on owning the Infinity!! If you get some lag from browsing or swiping or performance issues, not to worry. That will be eliminated once Jelly Bean project butter hits our tablet. (Reference Nexus 7)
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jjdevega said:
Knowing more about your battery, performance and how to maximize it will yield longer play time and increase the life of your tablet. I would start reading and get familiar with it.
Here is a link, its also one of the stickies.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805636
[HOW-TO] Battery saving tips
For Rooting and other helpful advice/tips/suggestions go here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1798586
[RESOURCES] How to Root, Unlock, ROMs, Recovery, Tips & more [VIDEO TUTORIALS]
I would immediately update firmware when you receive your tablet and if you have a tf201 dock attach it and you should get an update notice for your keyboard dock.
Congrats on owning the Infinity!! If you get some lag from browsing or swiping or performance issues, not to worry. That will be eliminated once Jelly Bean project butter hits our tablet. (Reference Nexus 7)
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thanks for the very quick reply..
so i guess i should do the update first when i get it, and then try to root it? should i unlock the bootloader? put in some custom ROM or stick with stock? thanks again...
shadow071506 said:
thanks for the very quick reply..
so i guess i should do the update first when i get it, and then try to root it? should i unlock the bootloader? put in some custom ROM or stick with stock? thanks again...
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Yes you can update firmware then root if you like. Remember Unlocking your tablet will void warranty and lose the ability to receive future updates from Asus. Once unlocked you will have to rely on custom roms to to keep up to date. As for me I'm just waiting for Jelly Bean Project Butter to hit our tablets before considering custom roms and of course making sure that my tablet is a keeper since i am still within the 30 return policy from BB.
So my advice is to not jump the gun. You can unlock your tablet anytime you want only down side to it is that if something breaks your SOL no warranty and its frowned upon to return a tablet unlocked, because the chances of that tablet being sold to another is likely to happen. Then that persons warranty is already void.
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Update the firmware, and then wait to root or unlock the boot loader.
In my opinion there is no reason to rush to root it. The stock ROM is quite nice, you can always change the launcher if you want a different look. I believe that all current ROMs (and there aren't many, yet) are still pretty much in beta. So give the devs some time to do their thing. In the mean time just enjoy your new toy.
thanks for the advice guys... it means a lot... will keep you guys posted once i get my hands on it
Rooting is fairly straight-forward in execution and does provide you with access to programs you wouldn't normally be able to use (adaway comes to mind). It also will not void your warranty and if you do have problems, you can always do a factory reset to go back to straight stock. Bootloader unlocking will void your warranty and prevent you from receiving OTA updates (though you can still install updates manually) and there are not many custom ROMs available just yet. In summary, root if you want, don't unlock the bootloader yet.
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^Thanks for that... will probably do an update first and then root it.. any suggestion to what initial apps to install?
shadow071506 said:
^Thanks for that... will probably do an update first and then root it.. any suggestion to what initial apps to install?
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Once rooted I highly recommend installing the listed rooted only apps down below...
*SuperUser
*Titanium backup
*Busybox
*Voodoo Ota Rootkeeper
*Root Explorer
*Volume+
*SetCpu
*Screen Filter
*Quick shutdown
*Rapid reboot
*Screen off
*Battery Calibration
*Wifikill (Not in Playstore)
*Adfree
Brought to you by my Asus TF700T
^ Thanks a lot for that... *excited to try those out*
Hello, so i have my infinity rooted using the guide in this forum, using debugfx tool. Now that i have rooted, should i get the OTA Root Keeper? Does it not cause any problem with infinity? If yes, can u plz provide me a link to where get it from? Thnx.
You totally should. I lost root when I had to upgrade firmware manually, so it was VERY helpful to have. There were no problems using it with the Infinity. You can download it straight from the market.
It's free, which makes this question a no-brainer. Although I had OTA Rootkeeper installed I lost root anyway when I updated to .26, but lots of others have reported in saying Rootkeeper actually preserved the backup and they painlessly restored root access afterwards. I guess it's a bit hit or miss, but that's better than 100% miss.
K thanks for the answers just one more question do I HAVE to install busy box after root? What is it and wats the benefit of having it.
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You don't have to install busy box, but the benefit is that it provides a ton of additional functions to the environment. A lot of other tweaks and things you may want to do later will expect it to be there, such as Titanium Backup, since it is free and relatively small it is well worth it.
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K thanks for the answers just one more question do I HAVE to install busy box after root? What is it and wats the benefit of having it.
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You don't have to install busy box, but the benefit is that it provides a ton of additional functions to the environment. A lot of other tweaks and things you may want to do later will expect it to be there, such as Titanium Backup, since it is free and relatively small it is well worth it.
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This ^^, so go get it.
Is there a way to Unlock or Root the TF700 with the current JB firmware? My TF700 came stock with JB, and it seems like Asus took down the links to the ICS firmware on their support site.
As others have said in various threads, you can be on JB and unlock no problem. It says ICS only but Asus are just lazy and haven't updated their site. I unlocked on JB and everything is fine.
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So after that i'll be able to root it no problem?
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
Trigster said:
New TF700 owner here.
Curious to getting root w/o unlocking it? I looked at some other threads and only talk about keeping root while upgrading etc.
So far loving this tablet, the dock makes it 100x more useful when you need it.
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As far as I know, the only way to root it without unlocking the bootloader is if you have ICS and just use the debugfs command program, as far as rooting with JB I know you have to have the bootloader unlocked. In all honesty I don't mind taking the risk of unlocking my bootloader because I have Geek Squad Protection on my tablet and can just get a new one for free.
HELP ROOT
ffd173 said:
Correct. I just did it last night and everything worked fine. Unlocked and rooted on latest 4.1.1 JB!
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HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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This thread should help you out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1938129
You should use TWRP 2.3.1 instead of 2.2.2.3, which he reccommends, though. They have fixed the issues he talks about.
burnaccess said:
HI,i got my infinity unlocked but can't seem to find the right instructions on how to rooted,im on JB 4.1.1,i tried InfinityRoot but it fails,please help me.
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Just follow this instruction but use the latest twrp version 2.3.1 instead:
http://goo.im/devs/s0updev/goomanager
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32825557
I'm wanting to take the plunge myself - but do you have to use the Asus unlocker tool or is there a way around that? I'm too late to get SquareTrade I think. Too late, and too poor LOL. I just have that nagging feeling that as soon as I do the thing will bork on me.
Edit: Sorry...I just read that you can't unlock without the ASUS tool, and it's a damn shame. I want so bad to rant right now but I won't.
I think I'm still going to unlock though.
The only way I could find to root was to install CWM recovery first, and then install the CWM SuperUser app. I replaced CWM with TWRP when all was said and done. Both are now touch interfaces making things so much less laborious. The links for doing so are all around the web and these forums. I had my frustrations but in the end it was easier than I thought it would be. I'm happy I took the plunge. I believe a lot of my frustrations were from ASUS' horrible implementation of Android. My benchmarks are now 6300+ on Quadrant with 2D GPU rendering on. I know benchmarks aren't everything but, you won't be sorry if you're giving up some kind of warranty to get the device you paid premium dollar for.
Busy with nothing I simply pressed the button to check firmware update for my TF700T. Then a notif came up telling me to install an update. After a temporary unroot I did what it said, and now I'm running Firmware 10.4.4.23-20121127, mine is WW. Root restored without any issue after rebooting.
Can't really see any changes (yet), probably have to dig deeper.
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Updated and restored root
I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
Here is the US version if someone needs it http://www.4shared.com/file/DIESwG1w/dlpkgfile.html
bossard said:
I've just installed mine but have not seen any difference. Maybe preparing the way for 4.2?
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I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
Got the update too, nothing too obvious seems to have changed.....
And I forgot to backup the dlpkgfile, sorry @geri.st
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I did an Antutu benchmark, before update I was getting about 13300 or so, now I am getting 14400. I also think they have unlocked 1700 mghz for all cores except power saving obviously.
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Just noticed the 1700 mhtz being available again. Otherwise I dont see any noticeable difference either. There's still lag and choppiness as .20
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Yes lag and choppiness in stock browser still very much present.
Do we really need another thread for this
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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geri.st said:
Could anyone upload the dlpkgfile for ww??
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Sorry i can not post links because i'mnewbie
dlpkgfile.WW.TF700T.10.4.4.23 --> h t t p : / / d l . f r e e . f r / j N 9 d P O 8 W D
raladoshow said:
For me this is the greatest update so far. Tablet is much faster and did not find any bugs yet. Prevented me from unlocking for some more time.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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You haven't seen the performance of Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel yet. I ran the .23 version and it's no where near the performance of the Cleanrom/clemsyn combo. I went back to stock just to see the .23 perfornace, but after one day, I'm back on Cleanrom/Clemsyn kernel.
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I hear you, you do have a point!
I agree that this update really improved the speed of my tab. Might not be clean rom fast, but it's still warrantied fast
It's a bit faster now. At this rate we'll be fully happy with the speed around April. For me it does what I want it to just fine So what if I have to wait 1 second instead of 0.5 second for an app to open? And the very, very rare (no, I don't get them a lot. once a day, at most.) ANR messages are a whole lot less irritating than the constant "Are you sure" UAC rubbish I deal with daily on W7. (technologically impaired clients. Ugh.)
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From what I've read I truly believe in you. The problem is that I didn't use NVFlash when possible (had already updated the bootloader) and I don't want to risk unlocking and flashing ROM's for now. The tablet is not sold in my country and if I brick it I wouldn't be able to repair nor to buy a new one.
I am not a newbie on flashing ROM's in general because I still own a HD2 but I do know there are risks on the process.
Thus, I will probably wait for the 4.2 update to decide between unlocking it or not.
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I, too, am not risking unlocking. While it is for sale here quite regularly and the EU covers warranty concerns, I bought it from a store that's not known for its great customer service (Media Markt, for you dutchies&germans.) and I didn't get a chance to use NVFlash. (By the time I heard about the idea, the first update had already auto installed. ) I'm also generally rather unlucky when it comes to electronics, stuff tends to break. And I need the tablet for work, so I can't afford to have it send out for repair for weeks if I mess up.
@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
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@ShadowLea
I have exactly the same problem as you, but Media Markt isn't good for repair?
Must I unfreeze all system apps before the update?
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Yes, you must unfreez all system. Any modification to properties (build.props) file also needs to roll back. The device must be in the "stock" condition or update will failed.
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Thank you, it worked