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[Q] ICS or GB?

There were such topics. But today we have April. Some things have changed.
I would like to know what do you prefer, what do you have on your Nexus. I went through ROM threads here and there are almost all ROMs with ICS. Yesterday I played with a smartphone of my friend where he has GB and I was stunned how quick it is. Samsung Ace, quite weak phone. But it was really fast and smooth. I use ICS because.... it's just nicer, better, everything. But every ROM I tested is quite lagy in opening apps etc., especially after some time when cache is filled.
I would never expect that I will be thinking about downgrade. What do you think? Howdo you feel about it?

devcager said:
There were such topics. But today we have April. Some things have changed.
I would like to know what do you prefer, what do you have on your Nexus. I went through ROM threads here and there are almost all ROMs with ICS. Yesterday I played with a smartphone of my friend where he has GB and I was stunned how quick it is. Samsung Ace, quite weak phone. But it was really fast and smooth. I use ICS because.... it's just nicer, better, everything. But every ROM I tested is quite lagy in opening apps etc., especially after some time when cache is filled.
I would never expect that I will be thinking about downgrade. What do you think? Howdo you feel about it?
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Though i never have tried the gingerbread firmware for the nexus s,(i bought it used buy a friend) i would never in my life downgrade now, because the looks of Orginal Ice cream sandwich is so beautiful and crisp So never

Agree, but it is also lagy which you really don't need to notice until you try iPhone or lower Android versions.

I've used Nexus S for 11 months, so I spent a reasonable time with GB. In my experience, ICS is a huge improvement from GB in terms of speed and design. Everything is just so smooth and fast. A lot of people are saying that GB is much faster than ICS but in my experience, it's the other way around.
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ljordan2 said:
I've used Nexus S for 11 months, so I spent a reasonable time with GB. In my experience, ICS is a huge improvement from GB in terms of speed and design. Everything is just so smooth and fast. A lot of people are saying that GB is much faster than ICS but in my experience, it's the other way around.
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I'd love to say the same. But I have the biggest problem with opening apps which is really lagy. When I played with other phones on GB, that was absolutely instant, and when the apps were killed it was almost instatnt. But for my Nexus with ICS this is a problem. I am quite desperate with waiting all the time. The worst thing is tapping on contact to let pop up the contact dialog.

Yep, until ICS 4.03 these lags occured, but now with 4.04 they where gone. Is much better, GB-like responsiveness.
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devcager said:
Agree, but it is also lagy which you really don't need to notice until you try iPhone or lower Android versions.
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laggy ? which rom ? .. ive used bms stock ics, kongs miui and pixel rom .. none have lags especially with apex launcher

Your experience could be explained by transitioning from view to view? The transition animation in GB was a lot quicker than the default animation time in ICS. For this reason, I've been using 0.5x than the original 1.0x. If you wanted to remove all delay when opening an app you could use 0.0x times.
In my opinion, even if GB is "faster" the experience with the better apps, better APIs make it much more worth it to use ICS. I mean take a look at the MMS app in GB, then take a look at the MMS app in ICS: huge difference! Also, the Email app is much better.
GB is much faster but at the cost of user experience.

Good afternoon, how are you?
I particularly prefer ICS. It seems that the phone is smoother, faster. I have not experienced any kind of problem, or reboots, or loss of coverage, no nothing.
Graphic appearance is also important, and I think ICS improves enough to GB.
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I can't stand the ugliness of gingerbread, but ics has poor battery life and keeps rebooting on my phone.
That's why I'm using miui gb. Works well and looks good too.

leepcharge said:
I can't stand the ugliness of gingerbread, but ics has poor battery life and keeps rebooting on my phone.
That's why I'm using miui gb. Works well and looks good too.
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Maybe its just you? I have excellent battery life with ICS using CM9.

Mizter said:
Maybe its just you? I have excellent battery life with ICS using CM9.
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Agree. My Nexus lasts two days even though I call, send messages and use some internet.
I hope the lags are the problem of 4.0.3. I use Codename ROM, so I wait for the update on 4.0.4. Hope it helps me!

ICS is way better than GB. It has really come a long way especially after the release of IMM76D 4.0.4.
I use Pixel ROM 1.72 + Air Kernel 3.9.5, The result is a pretty awesome battery life. much better than that of GB, and lots of free ram. Its very stable.
I have had my share of ****ty roms on ICS especially the ones leaked by google, but the tables have turned, and ICS is very good now. and much smoother than GB. My phone goes by for days without a single reboot or lag.
I hope this was of help

Are you running stock 4.0.3? Or have you tried any specific ROM?
When ICS was initially brought to our devices, it was laggy and I did return to GB...but now (with all ROMs bases on 4.0.4 with kernels running BIGMEM)...I don't see any reason why going back to GB....just not worth it lol!!

Why are ICS roms so popular

Hey everyone,
This isn't a technical question is an opinion question. Why are ICS roms so popular when there are so many things like native video recording and hardware acceleration are missing (do to drivers). I see that development is moving quickly with ICS yet Gingerbread has slowed way down. CM7 is still going strong but roms based on stock releases are, practically, dead. I just wanted to see what the opinions are in terms of switching over to ICS as opposed to using a fully functional rom.

ICS is what everyone wants, and wishes for. CM7 is about as good as its going to get (besides ironing out the kinks like BT and little things) stock is at its finest pretty much. Cm9 ICS is exciting and very nice looking. AOKP's customization possibilities are awesome give the phone a whole new look that make friends jealous (specifically iPhone friends lol).
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I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.

ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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lovenokia said:
ICS in my opinion performs much better than ginerbread.
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in what way, lol?

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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I second this...latest and greatest but at the cost functionality...then they complain about things not working properly *sigh*
I'm using CM 7 and don't have any issues...I do flash kernels and am using faux's b5...pretty awesome...can't wait to try harshs CM 7 kernel
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Another GB CM7 user here. ICS is the latest & shiny toy, so everyone focuses on that. Almost all apps work on GB, and uses less resources. Plus since ICS & CM9 are more recent, there's more bugs to fix so the perceived "development" going on.
I do use ICS keyboard app & the ICS Roboto font, but don't like the low-contrast blue on black ICS color scheme.

buru898 said:
I haven't flashed an ICS ROM in months. I agree with you. I think it's just more of the mentality "latest and greatest" so people naturally go for it.
I don't want that, I want something that works. LG cam is freaking amazing and, even though I don't take much videos, the option is there with such clarity and ease.
I'll stick with gingerbread even if ICS is never fully functional because cm7 is already perfect for me.
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+1
Exactly my thoughts!
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ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.

itsnoahyo said:
ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.

itsnoahyo said:
ics has support for multicore devices, gb doesnt. im pretty sure that the JIT has also been tweaked for better battery life. and its pretty haha.
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It has the support, but is it available for our phone? And what's the point without gpu drivers.
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
Whyzor said:
Where are you getting this info? multicore support is mostly in the kernel and since both GB & ICS ROMs use the same kernel on G2x (except Harsh's 3.x), they all support Symmetrical Multi-Processors ('uname -a' shows 'SMP'). I'd like to see some performance numbers between GB & ICS, doubt they'll be much different.
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We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
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mustangtim49 said:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/interview-with-cyanogenmod-developer-ricardo-cerqueira/
We have the jarvis kernel 3xxx and his updater/tweaking app for ics, but agree with you guys and the functionality of gingerbread/cm7. Don't forget to check out my interview with cm_arcee, link at top!
[email protected]
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Thanks for the interview link, it's great to have a brief inside "peek" of the person behind the scenes.
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Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.

ics
google put a lot of work into making ics a lot more polished, obviously they can't make the design appeal to everybody so the only way you can really tell if you will like it better than gb is to try it, I recommend the hellfire sandwich rom, it is by far the most stable and complete rom, and we are looking at linaro in the next build which means that it is 100% faster than stock android
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urfate said:
Currently I"m on stock 2.3.3.
but for the last couple months i have been on ics mostly for cosmetic reasons.
I enjoyed the new widgets and lock screen options.(Not face unlock)
I really haven't noticed a difference in speed. cm7 and stock are far more stable then any ics build i have used.
I'm actully back to stock now because i wanted to upgrade to the new bb. Probably going to stay this way until linaro gets integrated with hellfire sandwich.
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hellfire sandwich pg 502, hfs already supports new bb

I use stock rooted with the new baseband and its extremely stable
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i too updated the baseband and love the new stock 2.3.4, but i also like running the latest cm7, everything just works (well except for BT right now LOL)
better battery life and video are the reasons i stay on GB, but i do love ICS and flash it all the time when someone releases a new version (Genesis and Eaglesblood are the ones i use)

in ICS i really like the chrome browser and task manager when you hold home. the rest is about the same but i get a little better battery with EB build2 and i just changed to HFS so hopefully it keeps the better battery.
there is also hardware support just not in the menu menu, flash and openGL are supported.

JB Nexus S?

Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Have you tried a factory reset? Mine was running very smoothly on the OTA. I also wiped my phone before and after the update.

Honestly I don't find it that much buttery. In some app it even seems slower. But I'm running custom ROM with some restored apps.
Maybe with a total fresh start it will work better...
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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I had the same problem with the OTA. JellyBelly runs smooth though.

Seems a lot better than ICS 4.0.4 stock. Google now is slow to load but otherwise everything is sweet.
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.

nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Are you running OTA or some custom ROM? I tried a few different JB ROM's + kernels and wasn't very impressed. It was a very stuttery experience with lots of slowing downs. I guess i had too much junk laying around after so many flashes.
So i wiped everything, went back to stock image and got the OTA JB that way and rooted it. It's been running very smoothly ever since I wouldn't say it's a HUGE improvement over ICS..but maybe like 20% smoother. It's definitely not slower than ICS (i was running both stock ICS 4.04 and CM9 RC1 before. The only places i noticed the lack of buttery smoothness is when opening Google Now and the Camera app. The camera itself is fast and all, but the start up time is longer than i remember on ICS.

From my experience, it's actually "smoother" but not really faster than ICS.
Just went back to CM9 RC2 and I must say that it's much faster than any JB ROMs out there but just doesn't have buttery smooth animation.

I quite like JB. I don't use custom roms (I prefer stock with matr1x), and JB is nicer that ICS. Previously, recent apps was useless to me. It took forever to load. now it loads in an instant. also, I don't get ~10 seconds of lag after I install/uninstall an app, faster to boot, faster to finish loading apps after booting and the ui is much nicer. Ofc, it does stutter from time to time, but it's negligible, as far as I'm concerned. Project Butter is really doing stuff right.
Ofc, it's not as smooth and fast as on the gnex, but that's to be expected. The hw is not as good. But it does a pretty good job. I really wish google would upgrade the kernel and make it use all the ram available...don't see why they don't use it all...

ykphuah said:
The search (response between pressing the search softkey and the search box came up, I need to press it again to show the keyboard) is a lot slower now thanks to Google Now, other stuffs are same for me.
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Instead of pressing the search soft key just press the Google logo on the Google bar... that will bring up search faster

mine seems good

I understand your feelings, but JB on nexus s is better than ICS, maybe not faster but definitely smoother. JB does give a nicer feel to the whole phone experience.
If you're on custom rom, try the stock one Afresh. I flashed stock Ics then got JB ota. I have also used Stevens JB and oodies. But after a fresh install, the stock one seems the best. However, I'm waiting for CM10 as CM9 is definitely better than stock ICS. I'm expecting the same from CM10.
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I am asking myself the same question as the op. When I got my nexus s about a year ago it replaced a horribly slow nokia n86. The new UI felt fast. With time I got used to the speed of the UI and was generally quite happy with the performance.
Then came ICS and I began to wonder. Sometimes apps took a few secons to open a certain menu, sometimes the same menu was opened in half a second. Now with JB i get the impression that these inconsistent lags are appearing even more often. A typical usecase for me:
Listening to music via BT headset -> press power -> unlock screen -> select (standard) music app -> search for a specific song.
Sometimes this works as expected with <0.5s between steps, sometimes unlocking or opening the music app takes >3 seconds.
I should note that my system is completely stock and was never unlocked or rooted. I did the OTA to ICS and now to JB as intended by google. I never whiped any cache nor did I ever reinstall. When I have the time I may try that just to see if it makes any difference. For the moment though, I am left with the impression that 512mb ram and a single core CPU are not enough for a 2012 OS.

I'm finding a big improvement over ICS. I can't say I've found anything that doesn't work at least as good as ICS and a lot of stuff works better for me. The smoothness has really improved my 'user experience'.
That being said the app developers need to play catch up and get their stuff optimized for JB.
Can't wait to try the amazing custom JB ROMs that are going to be rolling out soon as well.
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Same here, I notice quite a few stutters, and I believe more than I had on ICS.
Maybe I'll try to flash stock Google ICS, and then do the official Google OTA update. The current ROM I'm using is this one, but maybe that is really not 100% the same as the Google OTA version?
Also, I'm truly disappointed at the fact that I can't use my voice on Google Now without having the whole cell phone in English. If I don't have the menus in English, all it does is Google searches... Basically seems like anyone that doesn't speak English natively is alienated.

Hopefully chainfire updates chainfire 3d opengl driver to work with jb .
Made ICS significantly smooth should do same with JB

Currently using CM10 and it works perfectly. I have not seen any lag whatsoever so i am pretty happy with it. I used the stock OTA but it was a major battery drain. That's really all I have seen that is negative.
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nexom said:
Okay I like my nexus. As a matter of fact its the best phone I've ever owned but... Am I alone when I say it can't handle jelly bean? I've noticed stutters in various places compared to ICS. Or am I missing something?
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Can try to disable Force GPU rendering in Developer options to solve shutters.

On my i9023 JB, the graphic is slower but my battery life has improve than on ICS. Dont know it is because of JB or I reset the batt setting b4 upgrade to JB.

CM9 vs stock ICS which is better?

just as the title says, which is a better fit for our tab? I upgraded to ICS but i see the aug10 cm9 update fixes almost everything. Which is a better flash?

If you want to be able to have more market apps available go with cm9
Because the official ICS prohibits you from downloading apps such as virtual tennis NFS not pursuit, real racing etc..
CM9 gives you a raw android experience and is snappier in my opinion because it uses a kernel similar to s3 I think
The official ROM however seems to have a slight advantage with screen clarity
It has pop up apps which can allow you to text while in an app.
The official ROM also scores higher in quadrant benchmark . But in my opinion cm9 is smoother and has better battery life.
PS: been installing both ROMs back and forth
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I went from HC 3.2 to CM9 on my 6210, and defnitely agree with the snappiness of the CM9.
I just have a disease and feel the need to jailbreak/hack any electronics I own. LOL And the ability to sideload apps that are otherwise non-compatible with my tablet works well too.

depends on what you like, at least for now, since our cm9 is still buggy, and not to mention we are not don't even have any custom ROM/firmware/kernel with optimization yet since the only 2 developers for tab plus is still working on getting everything to work properly. but overall, cm9 is better than stock for me. more apps support, better battery life, more performance. but the stock is more stable, for now, and have much better camera(if you care about it, i do).

appreciate the replies guys. Its hard having the galaxy nexus with tons of support and than having this which i love but development is crawling. I guess i'll flash cm9 soon and see how i like it compared to the iCS leak.

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just as the title says, which is a better fit for our tab? I upgraded to ICS but i see the aug10 cm9 update fixes almost everything. Which is a better flash?
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cm9 is a lot nicer than the stock ics.
well that is my opinion.

Stock ics is better than cm9. you get polaris, better icon handling and customization with touchwiz, no force closes. I find cm9 bland and lacking. Smoothness is the same for me.

Well if you prefer a complete functioning tablet, then you should stick with the stock ICS ROM.
Thing that aren't working with CM9:
IR Blaster
Audio output on 30 Pin Connector
MTP (MAC only, Windows users indicate it works)
DSP Manager including any Equializer app
WIFI finicky
HDMI output

ICS or GB?

I want to know from you guys the experience of using GB and ICS roms, so which one is stable for you as a daily driver.

ICS has come a long way for our phone,and I'd say it gives really good performance now. I especially liked MIUIv4 port,which works like a charm. And ICS based ROMs are almost bug free now, I can use tethering, camera etc without any problems. Gingerbread is also really good, but I have to say ICS is more aesthetically pleasing, and I feel no need to go back to GB based ROMs.

I agree, the ICS based ROMs are the best right now. There are new ROMs based on Jelly Bean (Cyanogen Mod 10 Unofficial) that, from my experience, are as stable as you could ask for our phone, but it's also having problems with Google Apps. Definitely go for the ICS ROMs though; they run faster, look better, and have more features when compared to the stock ROM or lower grade Cyanogenm Mod ROMs.

Gb is stable whereas ICS unstable bcoz of hq vdo lag
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Any thing which ICS can but GB can't???.................Nothing!

> obviously ginger bread

U'll feel d lag after sometime....battery backup not dat good.....ics is not perfect......apps run well on GB.
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Any thing which ICS can but GB can't???..................Nothing!
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ICS has got a fantastic apps, a way better interface and more. If you don't mind doesn't working YouTube and camcorder ICS is for you
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I tried ICS for a while but got a frequent bug where my screen went dead every now and then. The System kept on running but with no display. Some people mentioned that it is a known bug with no solution except to reboot phone every time. So I went back to GB another member told me he set he processor mix and Max values to something like 420-600ish and it seemed to fix the problem. So I guess ICS does not support overclocking on the P500. I've been thinking to try it for myself but I'm lazy and GB works fine.
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Im looking for gud ICS roms...But still no good rom....I still prefer neko95s' ginger snap and CM7.2 they are still best on race..

The lack of HQ YouTube and video is unfortunately a deal breaker for me, so it's Gingerbread for me right now. Fix that and I'll happily switch to ICS in a heartbeat.
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I use ics, but I rather come back to GB this week. Battery life is shorter than on gb and i can' t watch yt videos .

> ics is good, jellybean is better, both are fantastic if only we met hardware requirements , read my signiture.. you'll find the fastest rom ever for Optimus one, just click on the link

What makes me choose gingerbread over ics is mainly due to the battery life. On gingerbread with my usage, I can probably squeeze out two days of battery life. With that same usage on ics, I get less than a day. And as a moderate gamer, kernels matter a lot to me; the gingerbread kernels give me more performance than any ics kernel. Also sucks to have choppy video recording and playback
But the one thing that I like about ics is that it is aesthetically pleasing (but that is the only pro)

GB is battery friendly ICS sucks
try oxygen rom You cant customize like CM but....very good battery life:good:

Though I have a derivative device (LS670, the Optimus One for Sprint), I've run both GB and ICS and found a lot of good, stable, well supported ROMs that get great battery life. If you're doing heavy use, you'll likely get slightly better battery life out of a GB ROM, but I find the customization options and overall aesthetic of ICS to be much better.
In the end, it comes down to preference. ICS Roms are hot right now, but JB is on the rise, and I hear some people manage to get a day or two out of JB as well.
We shall see.

Apps are better in ICS
The gmail app is way too better in ICS. I like the widgets too.. Can't seem to go back to GB. Missing the aesthetics of ICS a lot..!

That's a question that will have many different opinions. Most of my devices I've had was running 2.2 and 2.3 (CM7). I have little experience with 4.0/CM10 but I am getting use to 4.1.
If you want your phone to be very easy and simple to use I would recommend 2.3. If you just use your phone for calls and texts and some web browsing then 2.3 is for you IMO. 2.3 just has a really simple layout that its just so easy to use and it runs very smooth on the optimus v. ICS is a lot more customizable and has more bells and whistles. But in the end, it just depends what your looking to get out of your device
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If u r looking for a longer battery life, GB and if not ICS! Its that simple. And also hephappy s final 9.1.1 is very simple and handy and easy to use ICS Rom.. Not much customization hassels.. great ics Rom indeed..
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If you want good battey life +hq video playback then straightway go for gsnap2.2 rom.
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