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I was wondering if anyone knows of a good/worthy phone replacement for the infuse. I adore my phone I really do but I just want a new toy to play with
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flash a different ROM?
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flash a different ROM?
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still same phone just a new face
Lol I have gon through my flash happy phase, I mean like a new device. As far as roms go, im on Z.E.U.S Build 5 with the ICS theme and it runs and looks absolutely awesome, dont get me wrong, I just would like to have another device is all.
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lol..flash a different port
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lol..flash a different port
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Haven't seen any I wanted to honestly try lol qkster imma still have my infuse so you all aren't losing a memeber lol trust me
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qkster said:
lol..flash a different port
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Yep that should do it! ;D
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qkster said:
lol..flash a different port
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still SAME phone new face
in all seriousness, i think dani is right regarding phones.
international flagship phones is prob the best option if you're itching for a new phone to play w/.
sgs2?
if you're looking to flash stuff, getting a tablet that you can hack may not be a bad idea.
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in all seriousness, i think dani is right regarding phones.
international flagship phones is prob the best option if you're itching for a new phone to play w/.
sgs2?
if you're looking to flash stuff, getting a tablet that you can hack may not be a bad idea.
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I might go for the international version of the Galaxy Note, or another foreign already released phone probably commin to AT&T, I heard that the international versions usually are better spec wise
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Know what now that I saw that price on Amazon lol never mind imma just wait for the white note to come out here (hopefully soon)
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if any1 is selling his infuse.. drop a pm to me
i found that the replacement for my Infuse is my Blackberry Torch. I still have my Infuse use it probably one day out of the week. I also got an iPhone, but that's to fit in with the trends. LOL.
I replaced my infuse with a Nokia E71 from Straight Talk as my main phone (I don't even know how it happened, I guess the 3 day battery life was enticing) But I know how you feel. Have you looked at the Samsung Captivate Glide? Not much better in terms of specs, but it at least has a hard keyboard for texting which is pretty cool.
I love my Xperia Play too (waits for flame war) But it's nothing really special. It's just good for NES and SNES roms really
i have been looking at the lumina 900 a lot lol not sure why never had a WP i think thats why i like it so much
The ST E71 SIM works Great in your Infuse
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if any1 is selling his infuse.. drop a pm to me
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id probably take you up on that but i know i wouldnt get enough money for a new phone.
60% of the smart phone users dont need a smart phone, they dont even come close to its capabilities.. All they do is games, youtube, fb...lmfao, dont waste your money.. its all the same ..
Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
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Yes, they ask for your personal information so that they can confirm that you are a customer. They won't give non-customers replacements.. And, Motorola only tells you to send it in for repair...
Let's put it this way, I was on the phone with Moto for almost 2 hours and they only offered me to send it in for repair (or, call my carrier and see what they can do). And, I was on the phone with AT&T for 5 minutes total, and they offered me a replacement within 3 minutes, before I could even ask for one...
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But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
vinamilk said:
Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
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Just go to the Motorola mobility site for the atrix 2 and either chat with a support rep through the website, or there is a number to call them at the bottom of the page. There was someone else already who contacted them and was told that they do not support the A2 in that persons country, and they would not even allow him to send the phone in for repairs, even for a price. The only way you can know for sure, is to contact Motorola directly.
Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it to my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know how Moto's behavior is before I do it.
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Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it for my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know Moto's behavior before I do it.
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That right there will probably save you some huge headaches, since the AT&T version is a US phone... just realize they might be able to JTAG the device and see that the ICS leak was applied, and give you no support. Just want to let you know that, just so you get prepared. You might think about finding someplace that can JTAG it for you, that is in your half of the world. I am guessing there are places on the web that do that service, which you can send it to.
Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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Off topic but
I followed the sg3 train too. Thought it would be delivered yesterday. Going to have to what til Monday. Should have gone to best buy and just upgraded there.
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Mine says I still have warranty, so it is a really good news for me.
But I live in Aruba I don't know how to send it to them.
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Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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The s3 is a truly wicked piece of hardware. Gonna steal the wifes for awhile when i get home.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865
Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Man... Still stuck with A2. I need to gather up $500 somehow!!!
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Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Good luck, I hope you get it, it is a bad A$$ phone, and so easy to do anything to and you have CWM working by default on this phone.. just flash the rooted image with ODIN and then install ROM Manager, and have it flash the latest version of recovery and touch recovery works so nice.....
All I can say is you will love this beast.
I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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Nope.
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I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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The SGS 3 all the way... the one x does not have an SDcard slot, so you HAVE to have unlimited data, and if you don't then you are going to be screwed if you like to have music and pics and stuff at your fingertips, because you will have to use cloud services for all that. Oh and the one x does not have a replaceable battery. Oh and AOSP and AOKP have official builds for the SGS 3, good luck with that on the one X.
Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
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Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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That's pretty much what I told them lol. As long as they don't realize that I updated to the leak I'll be fine. Thanks again, I feel better now.
I have already had the AT&T sgs3 but returned it because the user base is no were need Verizon's user base so I figured that we would ultimately have more roms kernels and themes. I am hoping that will still be the case. Either way I do not regret my decision because AT&T Lte is so tiny in comparison to Verizon lte when it comes to coverage.
Anyways back to the point of my thread.. the development for the international version of both the sgs2 and the sgs3 has always blown me away with the vast number of different roms, themes, and kernels! If anyone has every taken a peak over in the i9300 Dev forums they will know what I am talking about. Whenever I browse over there I find myself in a state of pure jealousy. The best of the best can be found there from roms like OMEGA to kernels like syliah kernel. I wish there was a way to easily port the international roms etc like entropy did for the AT&T sgs2 when he created the hellraiser packages which essentially swapped out the incompatible parts of a rom and replaced them with the compatible libs, modems etc that were meant for the AT&T sgs2. It would be nice if we could find with way to make it happen with our Verizon sgs3, not sure if that is possible though. Cross my fingers for this and definitely for an unlocked bootloader
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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xWiZxKiDx said:
I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I agree. Even the sprint S3 has more roms than the Verizon S3. I can not find any popular ROMS that run on the Verizon S3.
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You should be greatful for the development that we have.
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I was not complaining at all. I am very grateful but regardless i was comparing all us variants to internal and not us to us..
We'd have more development if Verizon cared about their customers more than their money.
I'm confident we'll have more development. Coming from an LG Revolution I'm very happy with the amount we have now even
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Unfortunately we will never see nearly as much development as we would if we had an unlocked bootloader.
I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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If you have read any of the r&d threads that's highly unlikely.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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Why do you say that? The people in the r&d threads are working as hard as they can to find paths that could work to get around the bootloader.
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I think he meant it is highly unlikely we will eventually have a unlocked bootloader, not a work-around.
Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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I am fairly confident that the developers around here will conquer this and we will have an unlocked boot locker before too long.
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It doesn't even matter that the BL is locked we already have a"Work around" and can do anything an unlocked phone can do we just have a few extra steps.
They have more development because it is... Verizon in the US alone vs the rest of the world..
I'm not surprised that they have more development at all
I myself have just started dev on this phone with nothing released as of yet. It will come soon. I have friends in the same boat. Just be patient. Roms will start coming in heards now that there is a workaround.
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Also agree with this. With kexec it seems we have some decent flexibility already, with just a couple resets in startup which I consider a very small price to pay
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Yea its not looking like the bootloader will be unlocked...thankfully with kexec its not that big of deal.
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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Dude, what are you talking about ???? It is a freaking big Deal!! Kexec is nothing else but a workaeound hopefully just as a temp fix until the bootloader is unlocked
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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I'm not sure why it is such a "big deal" exactly. What we have basically gives us the abilities of an unlocked bootloader (not 100% but exactly what we need development-wise) and all we have to deal with is a few short reboots on bootup. I'd say this is just fine even if we never get a true unlock.
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Having a locked bootloader is still very much a big deal. It slows development if anything and reduces the possibility of seeing ROMs other than stock TouchWiz because developers who don't like TW have to go through the trouble of learning how to correctly make a boot.img that is compatible with kexec or else face the consequences. I just learned this the hard way by hard bricking my phone while trying to build a working boot.img for Sense 4.0.
Trust me, we want an unlocked bootloader...
I think we have a smaller user base because of the costs associated with Verizon. Let's face it, we all know Verizon is hell of expensive. We pay the highest price for one reason, the 4G is blazing fast and we always have a good signal.
Good bye HTC Rezound, hello Galaxy S3!
I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.
I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answer is I'm not a developer but it bought i because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answear is I'm not a developer but it bought it because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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This is the main reason why most people hope and pray for retail versions to get unlocked/rooted. There's not as much support for DE phones, therefore not as many people working on them. Some other carrier's ROMs work on Verizon, so you can trial an error there. Only downside right now to retail is locked bootloader, so no custom kernels but this phone already flies
I'm grandfathered into VZW's unlimited 4G. If I were to buy a subsidized phone, the first thing they'd do would be to force me into a tiered plan. For that reason I only buy unsubsidized phones. Since I'm paying full price, why not get the developer phone? I've been using a Galaxy Nexus since the release date and have been ROMing it ever since I got it, so I'm not new to this, and I don't know how I could survive without a rooted phone.
I just got mine three days ago. I haven't put a custom ROM on it yet. I want to make sure the build I use is compatible with the Developer Edition. For now, I'm happy with the phone and having root.
razzrmaxx said:
I've had the developer edition since may 15th and I have seen very poor development on it since it's launch, now that the retail version has root I've seen more action even for the dev edition so my question is? How may of you have the developer edition and why aren't you developing? LMAO... My own answear is I'm not a developer but it bought it because I love root ASAP I get a phone plus I like to flash custom kernels and Rom.
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I've had the Develop Edition since early June. I previously had a S4 Developer Edition. I too am not a developer and I avoid having a phone I can not root. True, development for the S5 has been pretty slow, but now with root and Safestrap for the retail version there are a number of custom ROMs (a couple of really good ones) becoming available. I'm currently running the custom ROM by elliweg and loving it.
From someone who has been in the XDA world since the advent of android, i will say that this is probably as good as it's ever going to get. Only thing that will change that is an unlocked bootloader, but listening to people in the know, the chances of that happening are .0001%. Devs generally don't wanna get a phone that they can't really develop for. And the handful of people on XDA who actually have the kind of knowledge to crack the bootloader do not seem to be very interested in our phone. I have kinda just accepted that if i wanna be a crack flasher i'm gonna have to get it a new phone.
A phone being super popular and garnering lots of attention no longer guarantees alot of development around it.
xsteven77x said:
From someone who has been in the XDA world since the advent of android, i will say that this is probably as good as it's ever going to get. Only thing that will change that is an unlocked bootloader, but listening to people in the know, the chances of that happening are .0001%. Devs generally don't wanna get a phone that they can't really develop for. And the handful of people on XDA who actually have the kind of knowledge to crack the bootloader do not seem to be very interested in our phone. I have kinda just accepted that if i wanna be a crack flasher i'm gonna have to get it a new phone.
A phone being super popular and garnering lots of attention no longer guarantees alot of development around it.
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Ehhh I don't really agree. It's not that people aren't knowledgeable, it's that this phone can't be cracked for an unlocked BL. The S4 still hasn't been cracked in over a year now. The popular phones DO get the most attention, especially Samsung devices.
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Dennisg34 said:
Ehhh I don't really agree. It's not that people aren't knowledgeable, it's that this phone can't be cracked for an unlocked BL. The S4 still hasn't been cracked in over a year now. The popular phones DO get the most attention, especially Samsung devices.
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Just to clear thing up in case you didn't know the Original software for the s4 did get the bootloader unlocked, of coarse then there was a patch to it.
razzrmaxx said:
Just to clear thing up in case you didn't know the Original software for the s4 did get the bootloader unlocked, of coarse then there was a patch to it.
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Well yeah, MDK baseband, I never updated (cause I'm not stupid) and had that until I sold it and got the S5..missing an unlocked BL with AOSP stuff, but I can manage now that we have root and multiple sweet ROMs.
Ordered mine couple of days ago. Should be here by the end of the week!
I'm on a dev running TWRP. I love it.
How do you know if you have the dev edition
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thatruthiz said:
How do you know if you have the dev edition
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Easiest way is power the phone off, take back cover off, remove battery. The sticker behind the battery will actually say dev edition.
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How do you know if you have the dev edition
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The developer edition can only be purchased from the SAMSUNG Website, none of the U.S providers sell it
Just another Dev unit here.. Had to, cause I am always tweaking and I have the unlimited data plan...
Loving it!
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I have the Dev Ed too. Beware - always remember to uncheck Reactivation Lock before going to TWRP. I'm stuck there now.
I positive this will be considered a stupid question but I'm curious as to why we can't dd an unlocked bootloader off a dev edition and flash it onto a non-dev edition. I know it's not possible, just curious as to why. Is it because the dev edition is a totally different phone so this signature doesn't match? Are we not sure which partition it's on?
shootind5nukes said:
I positive this will be considered a stupid question but I'm curious as to why we can't dd an unlocked bootloader off a dev edition and flash it onto a non-dev edition. I know it's not possible, just curious as to why. Is it because the dev edition is a totally different phone so this signature doesn't match? Are we not sure which partition it's on?
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I think because Verizon stinks
Another Dev Ed owner with unlimited data here
has anyone flashed the latest kernel from the new OTA?
I just called Samsung asking about a dev phone and they said it can do talk or text, is this true?