Hi All,
I'm probably one of the few here who is still using HoneyComb instead of ICS on my Xoom. I've been on 3.2.4 for some time now, and started getting the 3.2.6 update notification which I blew off until the other day when I said screw it, I'll update and go through the trouble of re-rooting, etc.
However, I attempted to use Solarnz's universal root method which I've used numerous times before and never had an issue with until now. So after pushing the recovery.img via Fastboot, everything appears to have been completed just fine, except when I reboot into recovery I get the damn android with an error.
I've tried pushing a few versions of recovery and each time it seems to work just fine, but again on reboot, I can't get into recovery like it never got pushed or somehow has been erased. I can even revert back to 3.2.2 and update to 3.2.4 and root and re-install clockwork no problem. But I keep getting that damn update notification every 5 mins, and I'm sick of it, hence why I bothered to update in the first place.
I know most people have by-passed this altogether by jumping to ICS, but I've had too many issues with the beta ICS versions out there (WIFI handoffs and disconnects mostly) and need to reliable daily driver vice ICS goodness (fortunately I have a GNex for that).
Anyway, since I hadn't seen much on this, I decided to post and see if its just me, or if this really is an issue?
I can probably go old skool and use the manual root method of pushing the SU files via ADB, but something isn't right here, and I wanted to get some feedback.
Thanks
DANOinSD said:
Hi All,
I'm probably one of the few here who is still using HoneyComb instead of ICS on my Xoom. I've been on 3.2.4 for some time now, and started getting the 3.2.6 update notification which I blew off until the other day when I said screw it, I'll update and go through the trouble of re-rooting, etc.
However, I attempted to use Solarnz's universal root method which I've used numerous times before and never had an issue with until now. So after pushing the recovery.img via Fastboot, everything appears to have been completed just fine, except when I reboot into recovery I get the damn android with an error.
I've tried pushing a few versions of recovery and each time it seems to work just fine, but again on reboot, I can't get into recovery like it never got pushed or somehow has been erased. I can even revert back to 3.2.2 and update to 3.2.4 and root and re-install clockwork no problem. But I keep getting that damn update notification every 5 mins, and I'm sick of it, hence why I bothered to update in the first place.
I know most people have by-passed this altogether by jumping to ICS, but I've had too many issues with the beta ICS versions out there (WIFI handoffs and disconnects mostly) and need to reliable daily driver vice ICS goodness (fortunately I have a GNex for that).
Anyway, since I hadn't seen much on this, I decided to post and see if its just me, or if this really is an issue?
I can probably go old skool and use the manual root method of pushing the SU files via ADB, but something isn't right here, and I wanted to get some feedback.
Thanks
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Depending on what ROM your flashing if your trying to do the update from OTA then you have to have a 100% no bloatware removed rom, my suggestion is to download the one @ motodev and then flash 3.1 and update all the way to ICS (if wanted) otherwise I believe that when you get the (!) in recovery you can press once pwr+up fast (don't hold) and it will display the recovery window with the error message that's preventing you from upgrading.
after flashing the recovery, did you reboot into android and then into recovery? if yes, don't!
you have to reboot into recovery right after flashing the recovery.
Hi All,
Thanks for the feedback, I finally got recovery pushed and booted, along with root on 3.2.6.
As llama points out you must reboot into recovery upon rebooting from fastboot. I don’t believe this was a requirement previously. But once I did that, all was fine.
I’ve done this a thousand times before and even in my old notes I couldn’t find any reference to booting into recovery immediately after pushing the recovery.img. Is this something new with this update or has it always been this way? Call me crazy, but I can’t ever recall scrambling to catch the reboot and get into recovery before re-launching Android. I always rebooted in Android and made sure it actually loaded to ensure something didn’t get hosed, then I would reboot into recovery and flash the root zip.
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Is this something new with this update or has it always been this way?
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as far as I know, this is a 'feature' introduced with every ota-update. To my knowledge: get a xoom from a store and flash recovery right away-> everything is good; have the xoom install an ota-update and flash recovery afterwards -> do it this way
Alright, so here goes. I've searched the thread for the issue I'm having, but have come up empty handed. I'm not Droid noob, especially not when it comes to flashing roms. But, here are the details I have.
I had been following dragonzkiller's development on his ICS rom. I hadn't really put forth any effort looking lately until yesterday, and saw that he had the wifi and camera fixed, which were really my two biggest issues, so when I saw that, I was excited. I began working on getting it all running. I've had the x2 for about 5 months or so, and usually, the first thing I do, as soon as I get a new phone, is root it. Back in April, I rooted with GingerBreak. Worked good, no issues there. Back in June, apparently I still received the OTA update taking it to 2.3.5-418, which I found out last night had kinda broken my root. So, I went back to find a way to re-root. I did that, with a desktop .exe that went in, and was supposed to flash BSR to my phone also. After I ran that, all my root permissions started asking for options again, so I was relieved. Now, for the issues I'm having.
I downloaded an app in the play store called Online Nandroid Backup. For some reason, and I think this may be a dev issue with the app, it won't run a backup, and tells me that it wasn't able to be granted superuser permissions, even though it is prompting and I'm allowing. Issue number two is this. I've tried 3 different ways to get this working. I used ROM Toolbox Lite, selected the rom I wanted to flash, and wipe data and cache, no delvik. I've selected to run a backup of my current rom. When it boots into recovery, I only have 4 options. Reboot your phone, something about installing the rom from sdcard, wipe data, and wipe cache. I'm not given the backup option on the recovery. Furthermore, when I kinda just decided that since I hadn't had any trouble flashing a rom to any of my other phones I've had, I would just try to flash the rom, it gives me a prompt about 25% through the rom package saying E: signature could not be verified, or something to that extent.
Even though it has said not to use Rom Manager, I did download that and try that, and got pretty much the same outcome of no rom, just a bit different scenario going through. Rom Manager won't reboot into recovery, and when I select to do a backup, it reboots the phone straight up. I also used the manual entrance into recovery, volume up, but it tells me something about starting RSD protocol, and sticks at that forever.
My real questions are this... I've always ever used CWM. All of my previous phones have been supported by Rom Manager nicely, so when it came to downloading and flashing a rom on them, no problems at all. I have never used BSR, to my knowledge, so I'm not sure if the recovery screen I'm seeing is the actual BSR recovery, or if it's some other recovery. If it's not BSR, do I just flash it like I would a rom, then re-run into that? And does the signature issue that I'm running into mean that I have to wait for a signed version of the rom in order to work it? Is there any way to fix this issue, or am I basically SOL right this moment? Any information on how I can fix all of this would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Hi All,
Really sorry to post a new thread about this, but I am unable to add a post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911437
So, followed Member - OPs guide to manually update my A701 to JB.
Simply put, the patch would not install (failed with a permissions error)
Put JB on anyway (just to see) and this won't let me get past the choice of language and location (Also, at this stage, SuperUser tells me system is requesting SuperUser access and whatever I do, it accepts)
So, used CWM to put the 4.0.4 build back, and that worked fine - though according to About Tablet I am actually on 4.1.1
I see improved UI speed and responsiveness, it's all looking great.
But Play Store won't run. Tried adding the latest version, still 'unfortunately stops' Also Nova refuses to run.
Has anyone run into any of these issues (Patch not installing, Play Store failing) and have any ideas what I can do to fix them?
Really sorry again for making a new thread in the wrong forum, I didn't see a choice (other than waiting!)
Thanks in advance,
Al
misteral1970 said:
Hi All,
Really sorry to post a new thread about this, but I am unable to add a post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911437
So, followed Member - OPs guide to manually update my A701 to JB.
Simply put, the patch would not install (failed with a permissions error)
Put JB on anyway (just to see) and this won't let me get past the choice of language and location (Also, at this stage, SuperUser tells me system is requesting SuperUser access and whatever I do, it accepts)
So, used CWM to put the 4.0.4 build back, and that worked fine - though according to About Tablet I am actually on 4.1.1
I see improved UI speed and responsiveness, it's all looking great.
But Play Store won't run. Tried adding the latest version, still 'unfortunately stops' Also Nova refuses to run.
Has anyone run into any of these issues (Patch not installing, Play Store failing) and have any ideas what I can do to fix them?
Really sorry again for making a new thread in the wrong forum, I didn't see a choice (other than waiting!)
Thanks in advance,
Al
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Mate, it doesn't sound good.
What I would do, at this point, is Fastboot the 4.1 image again.. And stay the heck out of CWM. If you Fastbooted the 4.0.4 image, and you still have it showing 4.1, then you have a serious issue. So boot to fastboot, and try it again. Clearly, whatever you did with CWM, didn't work,
Installing a rom from CWM, requires certain things to be done, either in the install script, or via CWM.
Most notably, Formatting User data, cache, dalvik, system, and data. If any of these do not get done, chances are, the rom install will not go good. The basic install script, generally only formats System and Flexrom. This is because Acer distributes a full rom with the understanding there is nothing on it. Most rom modders know this, which is why they give extra instructions via cwm.
The big thing, is when you boot your tablet, is if it says which bootloader you are on. So you have to look,. You want to be on the JB bootloader.
MD
Thanks for the response MD,
A tiny bit unsure how to proceed. I understand everything that you said (well, I think I understood correctly!)
I have in fact tried to fastboot the 4.1.1 image again, and again I am stuck on the language and location screen (did this last night before giving up for the day)
I have read and understood "Stay away from CWM" (and I know that it is in this case only - have used CWM on my Gnex without issue)
Please forgive me if what I am about to write is ridiculous - this is kind of where we'll see whether I understood correctly or not.
I'm thinking that if the various areas were not wiped, and that could be the reason for the snafu, then it would be worth going into CWM (which I have been warned to stay away from, and which I would stay away from except for this one thing) and formatting the user data, system, dalvik etc, then applying either the 4.1 or 4.0.4 to result in a working tablet.
Or possibly flashing the bootloader to make sure it is JB
Or going back to the weird 4.0.4/4.1.1 hybrid which works but doesn't allow Play Store and finding a way around that issue.
Mate, I'm not sure which way to go at this point!
Fastbooting 4.1 is a dead end at the moment (but could that be a bootloader issue....)
Fastbooting 4.0.4 gives me the hybrid (though I can check this again tonight)
BTW, the only CWM Rom work I have tried to do has been with the patched update (second downloadable file I think) - everything else has been done via ADB
So.....CWM to wipe/format caches? (I'm thinking 'NO! DID YOU NOT HEAR WHAT I SAID ABOUT STAYING AWAY FROM CWM????' but I'm asking anyway!)
Flash a new bootloader on? If so, any idea where I would find it (will obviously search here and Google)
Thanks anyway, and thanks in advance if you have any more advice. I really do appreciate the support!
Al
Well Al,
This is perplexing to say the least. Clearly fastbooting the 411 results in frozen at the wizard. My question, when you have the unlocked bootloader, does it say JBxxxxxxxx unlock mode when you boot the tab? Because it should. If it doesn't, then you're still on ICS bootloader. And will have to do the CWM thing to get JB installed. The 411 image flash, is to get a rooted version.
And this is the point. Personally, I do not trust the CWM's at this point. That's just me (already bricked 1 tab 3 months ago with a faulty CWM) I know the folks with ICS are using Pawitp's CWM, and haven't reported issues. But I don't know if they are doing wipes or not.
As with the 404 image, well, why playstore doesn't work is perplexing. You could try reinstalling the playstore via manual method (root required). Which is to delete the vending.apk, install a new vending.apk (making sure permissions are the same as the other files), then reboot. Go to settings, wipe the playstore cache's. Then try Playstore again. This was an old method we used with market issues in HC.
Personally, I feel the issue is with the wipes before running the patch. But I would hate you do the wipes and formats, then discover the emmc chip bricked. So it's 50/50.
But heck, you have warranty. Just install some update.zip, and it resets your bootloader so service doesn't complain
Wish I could give you a definitive answer, but these processes are too new.
MD
Keep warranty
Moscow Desire said:
But heck, you have warranty. Just install some update.zip, and it resets your bootloader so service doesn't complain
MD
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Can you make a short tut how to replace the old unlocked Bootloader?
My Tab has some Problems with the Display so it need a service ...
witch cwm to use?
witch update.zip?
remove cwm and su if necessary
Android Version: 4.0.4
Baseband: 11.810.922.00
Kernal:2.6.39.4+
Image:ACER_AV043_A701_RV08RC02_EMEA_DE
Build: ACER_AV043_A701_1.017.00_EMEA_DE
Hi MD,
Thanks for such a speedy and useful response!
Warranty: nope! I'm in China, bought the tablet in Shanghai (now way down south in Shenzhen) and it was a dodgy deal to say the least. I suspect they were being lifted from the factory. No complaints from me about this, or about any difficulties caused by rooting/flashing/CWM. My choice of action all the way along and I am aware of the risks
Just flashed 404 again and it is fine so far, again very nice and smooth. Going to look at the Play Store and see how it behaves, see what I can do as far as vending.apk is concerned (although I'm lost when it comes to permissions. Obviously I know what permissions are in tech terms, but no idea where they would be set, how to change them, what to use as a reference) I figure this is the path of least resistance for right now.
Then I'm going to see if I can apply the standard A701 update to JB (which I won't be able to because of rooting/unlocking but I will fiddle around) and see if I have any joy.
Got my keen eyed gf to check the message on boot, you were right that with the 411 image applied it still had an ICS bootloader, so that's good to know if I want to try going back to the flashed JB image. However, I have no idea how to flash the JB bootloader/kernel, and the CWM process for the patched update fails each time (despite editing the first line of the necessary file in META-INF/Google/Android)
So, I will keep you up to date with progress. Fingers crossed!!!
Al
Quick update.
Play Store seemed fine for quite a long time (although I didn't download anything, I was able to browse no problem)
Went to install my back up of Nova, and of course had to tick 'Unknown Sources'
As soon as I did that, allowing installation of apps not downloaded from the play store, I got the 'Unfortunately Play Store has stopped working' message. Before I installed anything else, immediately I ticked that box.
Unticked it, but still not working - installed Nova, not working.
So....
misteral1970 said:
Quick update.
Play Store seemed fine for quite a long time (although I didn't download anything, I was able to browse no problem)
Went to install my back up of Nova, and of course had to tick 'Unknown Sources'
As soon as I did that, allowing installation of apps not downloaded from the play store, I got the 'Unfortunately Play Store has stopped working' message. Before I installed anything else, immediately I ticked that box.
Unticked it, but still not working - installed Nova, not working.
So....
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Well, seems like Nova is the culprit. I assume you are talking about nova launcher? Or nova the game?
Hi MD
Yes, Nova launcher but no, it's not the culprit. At least I don't think so.
The play store stopped as soon as I ticked 'Install from unknown sources', before I installed Nova.
Very odd.
Quick questions:
1) Any advice/links/downloads for changing to JB bootloader if I apply the 4.1.1 again? Given that I cannot run the patched update/flash from CWM, I am guessing I would need to directly install/flash the bootloader from ADB...
2) Don't kill me for asking this. I know to stay away from CWM, I have seen you post it a good few times here, I heed the warning....BUT.....
Given that I have CWM installed and it's working ok (apart from failing to apply updates) - I have 6.0.1.4 - many of the guides to updating the 701 say it needs 6.0.1.1. Would the slightly more recent version of CWM make a difference in terms of success or failure of the update? Update is failing with a 'set_perm:some changes failed' very early in the update.
Seriously, I am being extremely wary of CWM, it's just that currently I have a slightly disabled tablet and it would be great to get this sorted.
Thanks, once again, for all your help,
Al
Update again, put 404 back on (after issue with play store and unknown sources)
Opened play store, downloaded Apex launcher - all good.
Ran Apex, all good....then suddenly Play Store stops, Apex stops, never to return.
With 404 img on, About Tablet still says 4.1.1
The saga continues!!
Aaaand that's the end of that!
Put 4.1.1 back on, pushed the boot.img from the official update.
Now no CWM, so it seems no recovery mode....if I try to get there by volume down and power on, it goes into update mode.
And of course neither the official update nor the 'patched' one will apply.
Can boot to the first start screen (language/location) but can't get any further.
Maybe I can find a service center here in Shenzhen who can sort it out.....as I said before, no harm no foul, I knew the risks!
Thanks one more time MD for all your support and advice )
Or is it......?
Didn't give up, didn't surrender. Found out how to get into fastboot using frantic waggling of the rotation lock.
Just flashed 404 on again, waiting for boot to finish. Might still have a semi-usable tablet! Then I just wait till a 100% working JB manual update surfaces!
misteral1970 said:
Or is it......?
Didn't give up, didn't surrender. Found out how to get into fastboot using frantic waggling of the rotation lock.
Just flashed 404 on again, waiting for boot to finish. Might still have a semi-usable tablet! Then I just wait till a 100% working JB manual update surfaces!
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HA HA, you found the User Data wipe.... Yeah, a little known secret from the 500 forums.
MD
It's so strange....so now I'm back to having flashed 404 but the tablet thinks it's 411.
Play store was fine for about 40 minutes, I quickly got chrome, currents and BBC news.
I turned off the Acer ring and play store died...
But here I am, typing to you on the tablet and it's fine. And what a change in performance. It's most noticeable in currents..the increase in speed and smoothness when scrolling between pages makes it at least ten times better than before.
But the last flash was 404....weird....
I'll leave it like this for now. No market but at least it's not semi bricked!
Super Quick update - in lieu of finding a sparkly copy of vending.apk, I tried wiping data and uninstalling Play Store (reverting to factory)
It duly downloaded a new version, and worked fine.
Then I popped Apex on, the GPS got busy, and Apex and Play Store died.
The wipe/uninstall worked again for Play Store so to be honest, I am currently quite happy. Ok, it's not perfect, but if I can quickly reinstate Play any time it fouls up, I can still build up a decent amount of apps to make the thing useful.
And seriously, whatever changes are there (considering the weird 404/411 hybrid) the performance is incredibly enhanced. All the faffing has been worth it, it is finally the tablet that it should have been from the start.
misteral1970 said:
Super Quick update - in lieu of finding a sparkly copy of vending.apk, I tried wiping data and uninstalling Play Store (reverting to factory)
It duly downloaded a new version, and worked fine.
Then I popped Apex on, the GPS got busy, and Apex and Play Store died.
The wipe/uninstall worked again for Play Store so to be honest, I am currently quite happy. Ok, it's not perfect, but if I can quickly reinstate Play any time it fouls up, I can still build up a decent amount of apps to make the thing useful.
And seriously, whatever changes are there (considering the weird 404/411 hybrid) the performance is incredibly enhanced. All the faffing has been worth it, it is finally the tablet that it should have been from the start.
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Well, good news then. I think it's an interesting set-up. Hybrid. Still not sure though, why it pulls 411 from the build.prop as it should have been changed when you flashed the 404image. But honestly, after reading the OP's steps, I believe he references going back to 404 via CWM, and not fastboot. This of course would mean installing a full 404 original rom. I'll have to look over my JB system dump and see where the other prop would be. Maybe something changed in JB.
So if you can live with it, it's probably better to leave it be till we come up with something more definitive.
MD
"So if you can live with it, it's probably better to leave it be till we come up with something more definitive"
Yeah, totally agree.
Mate, seriously, thanks for the support and advice on this. It makes a big difference. Even as I sat there last night with what seemed to be an unusable tablet, being able to chat to you about it meant that at least I didn't feel completely adrift!
Big big thanks
I am on stock 4.1.2, VRBMB1. I am rooted, unlocked and with TWRP recovery. I have used Titanium to freeze SDM 1.0.
I am considering going to VRBMF1. I don't know how to safely get there. I also don't know what improvements might come with the OTA to MF1. Should I just hang out with VRBMB1 until the rumored update to 4.3 arrives? I would like to be in the position to return to what I have now (just in case), or be able to move to 4.3 if, and when, it come out. How do I proceed? Thanks
I have the same question... subscribed!
Is there a rooted/unlocked update file, or do I just run the VZ update and use Voodoo rootkeeper to restore root (or Casual unlock again, if needed)? Or dirty-flash one of the rooted/unlocked stock ROMs (and then the firmwares)?
So many ways to get there, just looking for the safest... I figure the VZ update might be best.
So, I finally bit the bullet. I backed up all kinds of things before running, but it seems I didn't need to. I unfroze SDM, and then checked for updates. It downloaded and then rebooted to install. Since CWM was installed, it tried to perform the update, gave a few errors, but I let it go anyway. After the main install was done, CWM asked me if I want to let the updater install a new (stock) recovery - I said no. Then it said that I may have lost root, so do I want CWM to fix it - I said yes. Then I cleared the cache (just in case) and rebooted. The phone booted up, said it completed the upgrade, and then dropped me back into the rooted OS. Pretty cool.
SDM did complain to say that the updated "didn't happen" but the phone shows the new MF1 version, and a few new apps as well. So, obviously, the update happened... and I didn't lose root or recovery. Damn nice...
I wonder if TWRP does the same things (disable the stock recovery and restoring root)...?
EDIT: Reading the TWRP page says that they don't support nor recommend applying a stock ROM update.
Secondly, I found that while my phone was working fine, when I tried to get into recovery, it popped up the unauthorized software error. Meh. I used the Casual rooting tool to reroot, apply the insecure aboot, and then reapply CWM... and I'm back to normal now. Not a big deal, but still more steps than I thought I needed above!
I'm completely overwhelmed with this Shield at the moment. Can't even think straight, because it's frustrating me so much. I rooted it and unlocked the bootloader. Now, I tried to update to 99, but it won't let me. So, finally, I decided to change it back to stock. After several attempts at this, now when it loads it just sits at a black screen. Before I got it to work, but it wouldn't check for updates and oddly enough the Play Store was acting weird (downloading slow, operating slow). Not sure if that's relevant, but I get 1.8 MB/s download speed, so I know it's not me. Everything else downloads just fine.
I'm using this thing called Shield Ram which includes adb, cwm recovery, fastboot, and the likes.
***Update***
While typing this, I was able to get the Shield back up after trying to flash the stock rom, but I still have the issue where I can't update.
I go to About Shield/System updates/ and it says "Your system is up to date. Last checked for update at 3:46PM." With a Check now button that doesn't work.
I know that there's update 99 out, but it's on 68 refusing to update or even check for it. I fear that rooting and unlocking it screwed everything up!
Any help would be much appreciated.
Screwed Shield Up! (Solved - I think)
So, just in case anyone is having the same problems as me. I followed this thread to a T and so far it seems to be working. I didn't install the root, though, because it seems like that is what got me in trouble in the first place. Not sure if that was bad or if now it's not rooted and that's the end of it. Hopefully I can just update normally, but if all else fails, then I'll have to reflash or reroot. Again, hopefully it doesn't come down to that.
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[Firmware] Nvidia Root-Friendly Updates [No Wipe]
How do you get root after the latest patch? The one shown in here not working for me currently. :\