Maybe I missed something, but I've noticed a huge lack of JB kernels for the infuse, which is pretty odd. are they out there and I'm just blind, or are they way more integrated with the roms now?
Most JB roms, if not all of them, use scott's kernel source. That's practically all there is at this level..
mr.jaguar said:
Maybe I missed something, but I've noticed a huge lack of JB kernels for the infuse, which is pretty odd. are they out there and I'm just blind, or are they way more integrated with the roms now?
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and if you want to get technical we dont have any jb kernel, or ics kernels because every kernel for the infuse (unless it was from back before we got the official GB) are Gingerbread kernel modified to allow compatibility for ICS and JB, so technicially we wont have any jb kernel, but as far as a variety of jb compatible kernels i would believe the reason why we only have one of those is because most of our kernel devs are not doing much with the infuse now, unless it is posted elsewhere and not on xda, but in all actuality why do we need a variety of kernels, the one we have is working excellent and includes OC, and several other performance enhancing features such as ZRAM
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and if you want to get technical we dont have any jb kernel, or ics kernels because every kernel for the infuse (unless it was from back before we got the official GB) are Gingerbread kernel modified to allow compatibility for ICS and JB, so technicially we wont have any jb kernel, but as far as a variety of jb compatible kernels i would believe the reason why we only have one of those is because most of our kernel devs are not doing much with the infuse now, unless it is posted elsewhere and not on xda, but in all actuality why do we need a variety of kernels, the one we have is working excellent and includes OC, and several other performance enhancing features such as ZRAM
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Exactly this...our current kernel is phenomenal....and we lack kernel devs...that stuffs confusing...at least to me.
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I hear people talking about updating kernel on a CWM rom, im currently using CoreDroid DHD v5.4 With the kernel that came with it. im checking my kernel info and it has a date of march 9 on it. so can i use the kernel update utility 9 on this rom to update it. also i here people talking about changing kernels whats that all about.
Thx in advance
CWM is merely the acronym for ClockWork Mod, the recovery.
helushune said:
CWM is merely the acronym for ClockWork Mod, the recovery.
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i know that
EMoney24 said:
I hear people talking about updating kernel on a CWM rom
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EMoney24 said:
i know that
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See where I got confused?
helushune said:
See where I got confused?
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Ok i meant a kernel for a coredroid DHD rom, is there any kernels
I just made a post about this yesterday when some one was asking about battery life, but I will post again.
The only roms that have custom kernel are the ones who's source has beeen released, or have been built from source ie. Froyo builds, CM7 builds, Miui builds. None of the ginger bread roms based on the leaked DHD have custom kernels, and probably won't have custom kernels. HTC is more then likely not going to release the source to their leaked rom. Also when flashing kernels you don't not want to switch bases, meaning you don't want to flash a CM7 on Coredroid (gingerbread) or a Froyo based rom.
If your still a little confused about what a kernel is, think of it this way ( I forget who said it in a thread before me), but a Rom is what you see on the screen, and a Kernel is what makes it happen.
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I just made a post about this yesterday when some one was asking about battery life, but I will post again.
The only roms that have custom kernel are the ones who's source has beeen released, or have been built from source ie. Froyo builds, CM7 builds, Miui builds. None of the ginger bread roms based on the leaked DHD have custom kernels, and probably won't have custom kernels. HTC is more then likely not going to release the source to their leaked rom. Also when flashing kernels you don't not want to switch bases, meaning you don't want to flash a CM7 on Coredroid (gingerbread) or a Froyo based rom.
If your still a little confused about what a kernel is, think of it this way ( I forget who said it in a thread before me), but a Rom is what you see on the screen, and a Kernel is what makes it happen.
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Close but not quite, there is a custom OC/UV kernel for several different gingerbread roms. here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050106
i have used this kernel with coredroid 5.4 and it works flawlessy
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Close but not quite, there is a custom OC/UV kernel for several different gingerbread roms. here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050106
i have used this kernel with coredroid 5.4 and it works flawlessy
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Very well it came out four days ago. Even though what I said is still true there still isn't a custom kernel from the dhd source, because HTC more then likely won't release it. Good to see they ported one though.
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Very well it came out four days ago. Even though what I said is still true there still isn't a custom kernel from the dhd source, because HTC more then likely won't release it. Good to see they ported one though.
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true, i'll give you that one. that's the nice thing about linux through it's open source nature makes for the ability to use one devices code to create a work of art for another device.
Coredroid is using leedroids latest custom kernel. It doesn't work well with 5.4 but works greatttttt with 6.0!!
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i had read a couple of posts here and there on how good faux kernel is, on "how smooth it runs or that it gets good battery life" but my question is, what is a kernel? is it only to over/under clock or is it something more that i am missing? what do i need to run it, (requirements you may say) ? i am on weapon g2x 3.0
In a nutshell (from the way i've always understood it) a kernel is basically the bridge of communication between your applications and the phone's hardware. There are no "requirements" to run it on your phone because it's already on there. Without it, you're smartphone would not be functional. These other kernels you hear about are custom made kernels. Kernels can be replaced by flashing one on top of the other (just like a ROM).
For more reading: Kernel
Even more basic understanding. Software for your hardware. If you are a car guy...ECU?
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In a nutshell (from the way i've always understood it) a kernel is basically the bridge of communication between your applications and the phone's hardware. There are no "requirements" to run it on your phone because it's already on there. Without it, you're smartphone would not be functional. These other kernels you hear about are custom made kernels. Kernels can be replaced by flashing one on top of the other (just like a ROM).
For more reading: Kernel
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Even more basic understanding. Software for your hardware. If you are a car guy...ECU?
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Thanks for the answer guys
So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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There are kernels designed for certain ROMs. We have kernels for CM7 & AOSP Based ROMs, and kernels for 2.3.3/2.2.2 based ROMs.
IMO Fauxs kernels are the best
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shanipaqman said:
So, can you mix kernels with custom roms or do they work as a package? If someone comes out with a kernel with a particular feature or fix, can I flash that on my phone to enhance or will it not be compatible with my rom?
thanks
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Yes you can. The kernel is sort of like the engine of your car. There's certain kernels that only work with CM7, or stock, but they'll usually say in the description.
Hello, I have been doing some reading here as well I sit on IRC on the #skyrocket channel which is pretty quiet these days.
I am using TPC GB rom build with Da_G kernel, and so far (since november 2011) it has been solid.
I have tried alienROM for the ICS leak, but it is missing some kernel features I like, however is a decent ROM. I was wondering if there were any nice ROMs or Kernels for ICS yet, or are well all still waiting for samsung to release an official ICS build so proper kernels can be made. It has been quite awhile and are we even getting an official build for the I727R (Rogers)
I wanted to post here if that is OK because I have not been finding too many answers to what I am looking for. I am in no rush really, but wanted to start thinking about tweeking my phone. Would it be best to play with leaked builds or just wait till some official builds come out then wait and go from there. If anyone has suggestions that would be great.
Thank you for your time and comments.
Hi. All the roms you'll find here are decent and will each appeal to different people and their needs. I've found the latest SkyICS to be excellent in many ways. Try a few different ones to see what you like. Any will be better than stock GB.
As for kernels, there are a few out, but none will have all the features we like about a custom kernel until the official ICS is released because -as far as I know - the code for the kernel hasn't been released yet.
For example, we won't have overclocking until someone can tear into the official released kernel.
I am not a developer, so please, someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Without kernel source nothing can be done. No oc, no uv, no bln.
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Thanks for the reply, I am on GB (not stock) running rom / kernel (4.3.5) just can't decide on what ICS I want to go with. So I will continue to read away
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Hi. All the roms you'll find here are decent and will each appeal to different people and their needs. I've found the latest SkyICS to be excellent in many ways. Try a few different ones to see what you like. Any will be better than stock GB.
As for kernels, there are a few out, but none will have all the features we like about a custom kernel until the official ICS is released because -as far as I know - the code for the kernel hasn't been released yet.
For example, we won't have overclocking until someone can tear into the official released kernel.
I am not a developer, so please, someone correct me if I'm wrong about this.
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Without kernel source nothing can be done. No oc, no uv, no bln.
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Doesn't the Cymbaline kernel have BLN now?
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Doesn't the Cymbaline kernel have BLN now?
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Yes. He posted that before the t989 source dropped. Cymbaline used fixes from that source. We also have instigatorx kernel for aosp based roms.
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The TouchWiz version of JellyBean, JellyWiz, posted in the Development section, has reached a beta2 level, and is becoming very stable.
After running CM-10 with KT747 kernel for over 20 days now without any major issues, underclocked to 192 (or 96) and undervolted, it's hard not to be used to the battery life. Even with the smoothness of CM-10 and the great batt life of the available kernels for it, there are a few things in TouchWiz that made me wanna give it a try again, like the camera, so I went back to the JellyBean version of TW ported from T-Mo. It is very smooth and has been mostly debloated, however, the batt life is totally different coming from those kernels that sip battery. With JB becoming more and more stable on TW, has any dev kindly considered recompiling their great kernels, such as leanKernel or KT747 to work on the JellyBean version of TouchWiz? I would really think a lot of people would want to over or underclock with TW JellyBean. There are kernel versions for AOSP JB and ICS roms, and for TW ICS rom, but nothing for TW JB right now. With Sammy or VZ maybe soon also releasing JB for TW, or eventually, the need for kernels recompiled for that will be there soon. Would anyone give it a try for a custom, more efficient kernel for that rom option? Anyone else been looking for a kernel for this purpose?
Thanks
i may be wrong but i doubt there will be any custom kernels for the jellywiz rom until verizon gives us the ota and we get kernel source.
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i may be wrong but i doubt there will be any custom kernels for the jellywiz rom until verizon gives us the ota and we get kernel source.
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Is there no kernel source from the T-Mo version that was ported to the Verizon phone?
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Is there no kernel source from the T-Mo version that was ported to the Verizon phone?
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Doubtful. That was a leak irrc. Kernels source are released after the ota.
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Did a search but no dice...
Basically I am struggling to see the benefits, or differences for that matter, between having the official kernel source from HTC vs custom ones the clever devs have produced.
Am I right in thinking that kernel source for ICS has been released for our One S, but not the kernel source for JB yet?
In which case, how come there are custom kernels available for both ICS based ROMs, such as Beastmode Bricked Kernel, and JB based ROMs such as ElementalX kernel? They are both working and functioning, with similar enough features.
Is it just that all the custom ICS Kernels are built up on more stable source code and so have less errors and bugs etc? Whereas the JB Kernels are being built from scratch so it takes longer to overcome errors, and features have to slowly be added in one by one?
I am struggling to see the reason why everyone is so desperate for HTC to release the JB Kernel source code for the One S when the devs have already got us working custom kernels???
Yes, the kernel source for ICS has been released, but not for JB yet.
I dont keep much track of kernels for JB, but most of them are for AOSP roms. The ones for Sense roms can change some things, but most of the settings needs to be applied during installation of the kernel.
Custom kernels offers a lot of custimization. What kind of custimization? Well, changing the CPU Speed and voltage is one of them - which can be used to either increase performance, or increase battery life. They also (in most cases) come with much better governours, which increases both speed and performance (simply put - a governour is what decides when a certain cpu speed is supposed to be used).
And then theres other things, for example sweep2wake, USB OTG with a normal usb cable etc etc.
From my POV, the CPU settings is what appeals to me the most. And back when I used stock ICS it was the USB OTG feature that appealed the most.
If you dont care about any of these things, then theres not much point in a custom kernel.
To summorize in one line: Custom kernels offers a lot more features than a stock kernel.
I understand all the option custom kernels offer, but my real question was; why is there so much need for the official JB source code when there already are JB custom kernels?
And as I said, most of them are for AOSP roms. The ones for Sense roms can change some things, but most of the settings needs to be applied during installation of the kernel.
To clarify: with the source, we can change all the settings within the OS, without the need to reinstall the kernel to change the CPU speed for example.
ahhh I'm following you now I think. So with the official source code there is less need for Aroma installers etc? as all those settings can be edited 'on the go' rather than declared for good at the installation, and remain unchangeable until a new kernel is fastbooted?
Exactly. With a (real) custom kernel, you can for example overclock the CPU when you want to play a game, and when you're done playing, you can change it back. Without the need of a reboot/reinstall.
Also custom kernels for JB Sense ROMs unlock writing to the system folder.
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mainly, you cannot produce a custom kernel without the source code. Elemental is actually the stock kernel using initd scripts. You cannot add sweep 2 wake, etc..
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