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I've had my Nexus One for quite a few weeks now, and I've made a list of my 'annoyances' from my own experience. These are all to do with Google's own apps, which is a bit disappointing because it is, ultiamtely, their own platform. They are annoyances instead of complaints because none of them hinder me in any significant way, but the length of the list do make me feel that there is no reason for Google to not include these features as soon as possible.
Contacts - Synchronization with Gmail contacts is great, but can't edit Birthdays on an Android phone.
Maps - Can't add an address pinned on the map to an existing contact, can't apply custom labels to starred items, My Maps always gives me "This Community Map could not be displayed because it contains errors."
Calendar - I've got 3 calendars synchronized with Google Calendar, associated with 3 different colours, and while all of them work fine in Day, Week and Agenda views, absolutely no colours show up in Monthly View! This is really annoying.
Browser - Can only recognize US phone numbers, so if I want to call a number on a page which is not in US format, I've to manually copy it and paste it in the Phone app, rather than just a long press or something easier.
Selection of Text - a bit cumbersome given HTC Desire does it better in my opinion.
Account Synchronization - Sometimes doesn't work. I've made changes in a contact and separately in my calendar entry, only to come back and find the change reverted to the original setting. I tried to repeat the change again but it would just revert back again. Finally I had to make the change in my PC browser and force-sync the phone for it to be accepted. Mind you, as I mentioned this has happened only a few times, it works fine most other times.
So as I mentioned, by themselves these issues aren't big. And I do realize in some instances a free 3rd party app is the way to go. But still, surely Google should make sure that their own apps leave as little to be desired as possible.
Thoughts?
A few key apps that aren't even developed yet:-
khaytsus said:
Google should write a good Google Docs
Google Tasks (integrate with Calendar, plus Widget)..
Maybe a nice shortcut forcing the Android browser for Google Reader.. I love Google Reader in the default browser, but if you have Opera set as default it looks horrid.
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TT1986 said:
Calendar - I've got 3 calendars synchronized with Google Calendar, associated with 3 different colours, and while all of them work fine in Day, Week and Agenda views, absolutely no colours show up in Monthly View! This is really annoying.
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I've just realized that the reason nothing shows in Monthly views is because events are all-day rather than during a specific time period on the day. If an event was scheduled for, say, between 1700 and 1800 hours, then a colour would show.
Not that this makes it any better. I still should be able to see something in the Monthly view to tell me that an all-day event is up on that day.
I know you're talking update what they have, but I think they're missing some important things..
Google should write a good Google Docs
Google Tasks (integrate with Calendar, plus Widget)..
Maybe a nice shortcut forcing the Android browser for Google Reader.. I love Google Reader in the default browser, but if you have Opera set as default it looks horrid.
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You're quite right. The absence of an editable mobile app for Google Docs, from Google, is mind-boggling.
Infact I'll include your post in the OP. It'll help build a decent list of "Apps to Do or Improve by Google for Android."
Actually the most disappointing thing is that some of those issues are pretty obvious to anyone having used the phone a few days.
Also some were reported years ago ...
For example Google contact sync ridiculous resolution for photos, maps location labels etc ... And it's not like it would take them more than a couple hours work to fix either.
I dont think google will allocate their resources on specific stock apps or them given priority over the development on Gingerbread since with apps they have community resource.
unlike mobileme or exchange, google offers a lot of the cloud services free of charge for our personal use, and we shouldnt take that for granted.
and to answer the op, I too would like to have the listed features applied, but I would categorize them as 'nice to have'.
-Task list (would be very elegant solution to other 3rd party notepad software)
-gtalk video
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and to answer the op, I too would like to have the listed features applied, but I would categorize them as 'nice to have'.
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I agree, I'm not too inconvenienced by them, but it would make the platform/apps so much neater and more polished. Some of them are really basic though, and you have to wonder that if Google can include some advanced features in an app (for example - layers or the seemingly defunct My Maps in the Maps app) why not quickly complete the basics?
Here's another thing I've been noticing regarding Gmail's Push mechanism. I've subscribed to this thread and another thread for instant notification and I've received a total of 5 replies, so 5 emails. Two of those emails have been delivered instantly to my phone, but the other 3 emails have had delays, the worst one being 11 minutes.
Again, my Gmail account isn't critical, so it doesn't bother me. However it's a feature which I imagine a lot would like perfected.
TT1986 said:
Contacts - Synchronization with Gmail contacts is great, but can't edit Birthdays on an Android phone.
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I absolutely hate how I can't stop it from syncing auto-added contacts, which should be an option to completely disable in Gmail anyway. It's been almost a year since they changed it but Google apparently doesn't bother paying attention to people's complaints.
I did read somewhere that 2.3 is supposed to be heavily focused on improving the stock design and apps. I certainly hope that's true.
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I agree, I'm not too inconvenienced by them, but it would make the platform/apps so much neater and more polished. Some of them are really basic though, and you have to wonder that if Google can include some advanced features in an app (for example - layers or the seemingly defunct My Maps in the Maps app) why not quickly complete the basics?
Here's another thing I've been noticing regarding Gmail's Push mechanism. I've subscribed to this thread and another thread for instant notification and I've received a total of 5 replies, so 5 emails. Two of those emails have been delivered instantly to my phone, but the other 3 emails have had delays, the worst one being 11 minutes.
Again, my Gmail account isn't critical, so it doesn't bother me. However it's a feature which I imagine a lot would like perfected.
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Hmm? Layers and My Maps work in Google Maps... I have a layer of Star*ucks and Kroger Fuel stations and when I need to fuel up (me or the car ) I fire up Maps, turn Layers, My Maps, click the one I need.
I wish Google Maps could do orientation of travel... Navigator does, but sometimes a flat map is just fine.
I think they said Gingerbread would have major cosmetic changes so I think they will improve google apps, overhall the Music app (which has been near enough the same since 1.0) and the messaging app etc etc.
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I absolutely hate how I can't stop it from syncing auto-added contacts, which should be an option to completely disable in Gmail anyway. It's been almost a year since they changed it but Google apparently doesn't bother paying attention to people's complaints.
I did read somewhere that 2.3 is supposed to be heavily focused on improving the stock design and apps. I certainly hope that's true.
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Try going to contacts.google.com and set your contacts into separate groups (friends/family/etc) and tell the phone to only sync those groups. Lifehacker had a post about this awhile back with better directions
Google Apps are BY FAR the worst, most incomplete, apps I have installed on my phone.
How about the fact that you can't change your "send as" address in Gmail for Android? They gave us that ability at Gmail dot com years and years ago, but there's been an open ticket on adding it to the Android version for over a year with NO response from Google at all.
I HATE how the contacts app automatically merges similar contacts. My dad and I have the same name, so it adds my Facebook account and all of my email addresses to his contact after every sync.
The Google Voice App gives you the options to "Never call with GV", "Always call with GV", "Use GV for international calls", or "Always ask"... Why can't you set the option on a per-contact basis? I wan't to call half the people in my phone book with GV and half without it, but I have to tell it which is which for every single call. I opened a ticket on this months and months ago with NO response from Google.
The list goes on... I just can't believe how long some of these tickets have been open, and how many "+1" responses they have, but Google just ignores them. It really makes me wish they'd release paid versions of their software so that maybe we'd have a voice (nevermind the fact that I gave Google $575 for my Nexus One).
The other frustrating part is that Google's "novelty apps" seem to be more complete than their "productivity apps". Maybe it's because I don't use them every day or because I don't rely on them, but does anybody have any complaints about the My Tracks app? Or Google Goggles?
Anyway, thanks for letting me vent!
Billy
Another one of my rants, regarding the Gallery app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738590
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Try going to contacts.google.com and set your contacts into separate groups (friends/family/etc) and tell the phone to only sync those groups.
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Would you _please_ stop this, it's causing me utter agony
My Samsung Galaxy S is deprived of this functionality by Samsung (!). Groups sync but just don't show... To prove they indeed sync, just create a group in goole with the name "test". Then sync. Group does not appear on phone. Now try to create a group "test" on the phone -> Error "Group name already in use".
Samsung really f... up the contacts management
Customizable snooze times and volume per alarm would be nice.
Is google also responsible for the youtube app? It sucks too ^^
No comments possible for example...
That is def.ly a good topic to debate and I def.ly would say yes they should. It looks like those apps will def.ly be redefined come gingerbread time (3.0). Even the gmail apps is not as defined as it should. At least there should be an unread mail count by default in the app among other things.
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You're quite right. The absence of an editable mobile app for Google Docs, from Google, is mind-boggling.
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I gotta agree with this. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Gmail: needs the ability to send to a group.
YouTube: needs a setting to tell it what resolution of video to default to. It's a pain to load the video and then select "high quality" every time.
And lets not talk about everything that needs to be done to make the Market app not suck.
I think they should. While Sense is nice (even though I'm not using it lol) I think it would be a lot better if Google's stock UI was much better. There's a lot of rumors going around that Gingerbread has Google focused on a much better user experience so that they don't need things like Sense, MotoBlur, etc...And I hope so. I think Google should stack it's main stock options, and then if people want to be able to add extra stuff by putting on some kind of skin/extra UI then they should have the option. Just my 2 cents
OP you read my mind. I really do think google should spend some time upgrading the overall look and feel of the stock apps. I mean they have added about every feature you can possibly need but some basic things they have seemed to overlook. Especially their music, email, youtube, and other almost daily used apps should be more pleasing to use. But as someone mentioned earlier, their 3.0 gingerbread might sexy things up a bit.
Hi all Android and Google user.
Was just curois, since i cant get my head around why Gmail is better. I hear every Google user talk about that so i was kind of wondering why the fuzz is about, with todays standards that is.
Yes, i have a Gmail account, yes i use Live instead. Love the PC services they introduced now witch gives such a nice Outlook feeling (Better according to me) for free.
But i was kind of wondering why everybody is sweet talking so much on Gmail? I see them as 2 services offering the same and cant see why i should switch when i got a well known mail adress sincew many years back.
It´s a hounest question, so plz, no foul mouth talking. This is a thread for trying to get me, and maybe others to understand why Gmail is being regarded as superior, or basicly just better.
So, educate me, maybe you win me over even, who knows.
You don't have to download anything. Gmail works.
Hmmm, kind of short to give anything. Ofcause you dont need to download anything for Live if you dont like. It just works also. But there is some wonderfull tools as a compliment. Just try the Live Hotmail if you like. Think its great.
Anyone else could enlighten me more ?
Gmail is fast, when you have Google account has acces to many sites, like Youtube
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Gmail is fast, when you have Google account has acces to many sites, like Youtube
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What do you mean by access to many sites? YouTube is a no brainer, but what is the other services?
Live also have access to a lot of services straight away, thats why im asking.
I.e. when you have phone with android you need to have google account, if you want to use Market
gmail quick and clean. havent found anything better.
on hotmail, the default first screen you see when you log in is some kind of advertisement screen with parts of your inbox.
On gmail, the first screen is your inbox - which is exactly what you want to see. Simple.
Threaded conversations on gmail are easier to read and keep track of than individual emails on hotmail.
on hotmail, the default first screen you see when you log in is some kind of advertisement screen with parts of your inbox.
On gmail, the first screen is your inbox - which is exactly what you want to see. Simple.
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Ahaa, nice points, thnx for the reply. On being fast, do you guys mean ots loading faster or somthing? The threaded thing is only possible with Live Mail on the PC.... i think, never thought about it, mostly use the nice client and there threaded there.
The advertisment i cant agree to on the startscreen for Hotmail. But the Inbox thing is a taste then i belive and maybe the thing maing it more likble to some?
One of the advantages i found with the start screen on Hotmail/Live is that it dedicates to what actully is happeing and from who you got a mail etc , so you can skip going to inbox if you like me have a lot of mails, and just sort through what you have that is new.
Also, you can if you just press your inbox from start screen sort mails from different categorys so you can look and delete FB notifications only directly for example.
Im getting to understand what your saying thouh. You like its just straight in to the mail box, not a mult purpose screen, and maybe other things? Except for the threaded thing that may be clearer to read in your browser, once in your inbox i see no difference between the 2, maybe for me who likes coulors have a bit more graphic ... or am i missing somthing again?
Anyways, included a pic for you to look at what i am meaning, thnx for the input guys, dont stop, keep em coming, slowly starting to get it. More details plz.
Or have we hit the spot here with just various tastes if it goes straight to inbox or a multi purpuse window?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/picture.php?albumid=4275&pictureid=14090
They are both very good, I just started with a gmail account has all my contacts saved google talk/voice google+ youtube marketplace etc but live is equally as good.
Gmail is quick, clean and reliable. Also you will need a google account to access other google services like android, youtube, maps etc so its a good idea to have one.
Other email services are also equally as good so its just a matter of personal preference.
I have been using gmail since it first arrived, and I like it. It is personal preference. I have a yahoo account and that isn't too bad either, and you get access to flickr and yahoo groups with that account. I have used hotmail too and it isn't too bad. I have not used live, but I have used outlook for years at work. Outlook is ok, but I am not able to access all of my email from anywhere on the net with outlook. Not sure about Live. With gmail or any web based email I can get to my email from pretty much anyplace, anytime, anywhere without downloading any application.
Gmail = instant emails + no spam, for me best
Gmail is quick, it has calendar, syncs contacts from your phone without you having to set or download anything and if u accidentally happens to remove all your contacts in the phone, then you have a restore function in gmail/google contacts.
Also Gmail has antispamservers running all the time, Hotmail/windows live mail doesn't (or atleast it seems not) . Gmail is more secure, reliable and user friendly, and combined with all other Google applications they have managed to get everything working together really smooth
I used to be a hotmail junkie too.
Gmail just seems to connect with all my services better.
I use both on a daily basis on my WP7 device, both are good however Live/hotmail has an advantage in the it is better for sending attachments.
Try sending an attachment using gmail with an attachment that is not natively supported by the device, its not there, however with hotmail/live it is. This is particulalry useful when emailing something to yourself (to your device) that you may wish to forward on for someone whjo is using a pc for example.
I once tried to email a cert using gmail, couldn't get it to open/save, however live worked no problem.
Just a small thing and it is purely subjective like many things in this world
lovly to see you taking your time to answer. Fun and intressting reading, and kudos to you typing it up a bit, im pressing the like buttons on you... if you care about it ^^
Mr ace56, since it seems you like to tryout new things, try downloading the new Live Mail thats inc in the Live Essential package and give it a spin, might like it since its free and pretty much a Outlook but better. But you need Win 7 to take full advantage of it. Maybe vista will work to, but any sane person wouldn´t use that =)
Do Gmail have the possibillity to use a client also of some kind?
Agree with a earlier post..... It just works......nuff said!
You are correct, I like trying different software, so I switched from Windows XP to Mac OS in 2009, so I guess I can't try out the Live email.
Integration. I can edit and sync my contacts to phone straight from my gmail account.
Simples.
I was getting a force close error on my Atrix 2 and tried everything to fix it. The error I was getting was.. "The process com.motorola.service.main has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again."
I even returned the phone to the store and got a new one, and later that same day started getting the error again. I figured out the solution if anyone else is getting this same error.
The email situation on this phone is the most unintuitive thing I have ever used. For sync purposes I logged in with my gmail credentials in the "Accounts" section. That also included my gmail email account in the "Gmail" app. But in order to use my other email addresses I had to use the "Email" app. Instead of having to use two apps for email, I decided to enter my gmail address in the Email app as well... that was the problem.
I ended up leaving my gmail address in the accounts entry of the phone, but I turned off notifications for Gmail and Email... and the Messaging app (wow, isn't that redundant?) I installed K-9 Mail and am happily viewing all my mail in one application with no force close error.
I hope this helps someone.
That is an android thing not a Motorola thing.
I have several different email address from several different companies. What I do is set up my gmail accounts to retrieve my email from the outside email accounts and then I only have to set up my gmail accounts on the phone. I can send a receive email from all accounts that I have set up.
For more info on setting that up go here http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=21288
Thanks for the link. I didn't know that gmails mail fetcher would work with other accounts. It looks like it limits to 5 email addresses though. Personally I have 9 email addresses so that wouldn't be an option anyway. K9 really seems to be the best option for me.
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lilhaiti said:
That is an android thing not a Motorola thing.
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As much as I love android, I have to admit the iPhone email system is much more intuitive than the stock '3 different apps' in android to handle email.
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Agnus Dei said:
As much as I love android, I have to admit the iPhone email system is much more intuitive than the stock '3 different apps' in android to handle email.
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It is not an Android issue, just that Motorola did a horrible job of handling it. I have had the original iphone, and the first 3g, I hated them, and I was sent a cease and desist letter from Apple, because I was one of the devs there helping with jailbreaking etc. I have to admit that they did a great job of integrating an all in one solution.
The True Android systems that do not have some "front end" over it, like Moto, HTC, and samsung do, don't have that issue, because they don't come with apps for anything like that on them, you get to install your own e-mail solutions that you like, from the market.
Try a true Google device, and it will only come with the ability to get Gmail, and usually no other email apps are installed by default.
That is why there are some great apps that allow an all in one e-mail solution if you like, including exchange and such, if you want that too. I do have to admit though that Android is WAY more flexible than the iphone for things like this though, but it is still more for someone who likes to tinker and play to get things working they way they want.
I'm a pretty intelligent guy. Im a programmer and I study Theoretical Physics as a hobby. It took me 3 days to figure out what Motorola was trying to accomplish with their email / messaging apps.
I love the versatility of android though. I'm looking forward to a custom ROM release for the Atrix 2.
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Agnus Dei said:
I'm a pretty intelligent guy. Im a programmer and I study Theoretical Physics as a hobby.
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Hence the reason why you probably like android.
Your wait for custom ROMs is almost over. The reason the dev section has been kinda quiet lately, is because the few devs we have in here, me included, have been hacking away on ROMs since there is a way to recover now.
I will be releasing a couple myself next week, and I know others are coming shortly after that. Mine will all be close to stock for right now. Others are trying to port some great ROMs for us all here, so that is coming too.... just hang tight a little longer...
Sweet! Thanks for all your work!
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Hey I´ve got my atrix 2 but sometimes while unlocking the pattern it lags a little bit, and have had twice to force close while writing... normal ?
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
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Geoffxx said:
OK the title is self explanatory but lets go a bit further
I have two apps on my phone that I want to stop but primarily Facebook, I don't want them starting when the phone boots and I don't want them restarting on their own when I kill the process or stop the apps, I believe they have processes running that don't readily identify themselves as being associated with the apps so even if I kill/force stop the apps a short time later they just start up again.
I still want to be able to use the apps I choose so I don't want to uninstall or freeze them
The apps (for starters) are Facebook and ES file Explorer, I don't think ES FE is that bad and just stopping it from running on boot would be good enough but Facebook is an entirely different matter, it is extremely annoying.
Sometimes my phone heats up like it is doing a lot of work on something and when I kill facebook it all settles down
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Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
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Greenify should do the trick.
There's also Boot manager (if you're rooted+xposed)
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Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
I am pretty sure someone on these forums know the answer
Geoffxx said:
Greenfly does not achieve what I am trying to do, and boot manager does not stop facebook from loading, it is still there in my apps and running no matter what I do and if I force stop it and stop the process it is back there again later without rebooting
I suspect that facebook uses and app or process that is not readily identifiable as facebook by name and then this app or process then manages the actual facebook apps that you see running as facebook, to actually stop facebook you would need to identify this app or process to totally shut it down, so if I am right - does anyone know what this app or process is so that I can stop it and take control of facebook, I rarely use it and don't see why it needs to be running 24/7 spying on me
I am pretty sure someone on these forums know the answer
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Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
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Any app that runs so forceably even when you try to stop it should not be on your phone.
It can be awoken by listening and reacting to any of the numerous intents on android. For example; the app could've been coded to wake up each time you open the camera/dialer/attempt to dial a number/connect to the internet and so on. Google Play Services operates in the same way.
Cutting off wake up paths in greenify should fix that. Or download 3C System Tuner and disable some of the triggering intents for the app.
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ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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Startup Manager would come in handy but it only works for 1 boot and you need to repeat each time you want to reboot
Out of curiousty isn't freezing it better than deleting it?
And yeah the browser version is better
Geoffxx said:
ok I am going to assume you hae android and facebook app installed............if not then never mind because you have nothing to contribute
if you have the facebook app installed then go ahead and look at apps and processes and try to stop it from invading your phone............good luck with that ...please report back
I have since uninstalled facebook app and will access it through my browser if and when I need to
I worked in IT all my life and I don't like facebook, in fact I don't like seeing people with their faces buried in their phones 10 hours a day, there is something very wrong going on - I love and support technology but as some experts are now saying, it is now a serious health problem and I believe them............so what does facebook have to do with this..................well by far the biggest offender, so much so that it is scary
my advice to anyone with a mobile smartphone is to uninstall the facebook app and just access it through a browser, people need to realize that while you have all these devices and various accounts apps and cookies etc etc, everything you do on every device, everything you access - everywhere you go, everything you do is being monitored and recorded.................everything and I mean EVERYTHING
you think your life is private lol
anyway I couldn't find a way to shut the facebook app down..........so I uninstalled it, not sure that will even make a difference but it is gone, no more updates every 2 days - no more overheating as FB tries to upload stuff to some cloud somewhere without my permission................it is gone
sorry for the rant
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I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Droidriven said:
I have a suggestion, but you might not get notifications when you have activity on Facebook. You won't know about any Facebook activity until you actually go and check it yourself.
Here is a workaround that doesn't even involve having Facebook or Facebook Messenger installed.
Use your favorite mobile browser(I recommend Puffin Browser or Firefox, Firefox requires some setup though, explained and linked below), go to Facebook in browser, login, have it save your login info in browser.
Then, open your browser settings and find the option to add the page to your homescreen as a shortcut. Open your Facebook settings in browser, find notification settings, set it to notify you of activity via text or via email, if you choose to notify via email, use the email that you are logged into your device with. Then, open your email app, go to its settings and set it to notify you when you get an email. This setup will save battery, save space because Facebook won't be installed, have less demand on CPU and mobile data. It will also allow you to still receive your Facebook notifications without having the app installed.
A workaround for managing your Facebook messages without having Messenger installed is as follows.
When you open the Facebook shortcut that you added to homescreen, open your browser menu, tap "request desktop site", when the page reloads you can then check your messages by tapping the messenger icon at the top of the Facebook page. If you try to check messages without requesting desktop site first, it will redirect you to install messenger. An alternative to this is to use Puffin Browser or Firefox(use this to set up Firefox in automatic desktop view) or use another browser that saves login info and automatically opens pages in desktop view, this will do everything for you without having to request desktop every time you open the page, just make sure that you create the homescreen shortcut using Puffin(or whatever other browser you use that has automatic desktop site) instead of your usual browser.
All of this requires no extra apps or disabling/hibernating/greenifying any apps.
This is the setup I use for the exact same reason that you're wanting to avoid.
Does this get you anywhere close to what you're looking for?
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Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
Geoffxx said:
Yes that is what I have done, now facebook doesn't take over my device anymore lol not that I used it much in the first place
In terms of privacy google isn't much better but then they own the OS so not much can be done with that one
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It's possible to not have Google on a device and use alternative apps with similar function. There are many members here that take their privacy very serious and uts,what they do with their devicesm
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just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
Geoffxx said:
just a little more feedback on this for those that area interested
After removing facebook (uninstalling the app) the difference in quite extraordinary, yes I have an xperia Z1 which is a couple of years old but it still does everything I need it too, removing the facebook app has made my phone lightening quick, I also no longer have the every other day massive updates and I can still access facebook through my browser when I feel like it, looks just the same responds just the same but without the massive overhead
seriously - do yourself a favour and dump that facebook app................it turned into a monster and there is a very easy solution
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I wish I could thank this post a dozen times. I tell people to get rid of facebook all the time. People come to this forum wondering why their battery usage is outrageous and why their device is so sluggish. Then you find out that they have Facebook and messenger installed along with Snapchat, Whatsapp, etc..
People just don't realize how much demand these social media apps put on the hardware.
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I have problem with my s6. I dont know why its opening itself of random apps like email app not gmail, find my phone, google play games, voice recorder. I dont opened . I used when lock phone like messenger ,fb, snapchat, i closed the apps - closed all in recent app button. And thats weird when phone shutting down or power off, and when turned on i see apps opened by itself like clock, find my phone in settings which i dont run when it booted phone. Why my s6 doing like that? I tried factory reset and wipe cache. Dont help!!! Doesnt matter when power off or lock button still opened in recent apps random programs.
That's the way it's supposed to be. It's always like that, for everyone.
Some apps are supposed to stay open, for various reasons. Some like Find My Phone for security reasons, others like Play Games for (supposedly) convenience, Clock for alarms and stuff like that, and then there's apps that sync - all messaging type apps (like Messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, Email, Gmail, ...).
There are ways to make them stop, like denying them the permission to run in the background, or using Greenify and using it to cut-off app wake-ups. But then... it probably won't be a very nice experience. For one, you wouldn't get messages on Messenger/Snapchat/etc until you open the app yourself. And also, opening those apps will become much slower.
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That's the way it's supposed to be. It's always like that, for everyone.
Some apps are supposed to stay open, for various reasons. Some like Find My Phone for security reasons, others like Play Games for (supposedly) convenience, Clock for alarms and stuff like that, and then there's apps that sync - all messaging type apps (like Messenger, Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, Email, Gmail, ...).
There are ways to make them stop, like denying them the permission to run in the background, or using Greenify and using it to cut-off app wake-ups. But then... it probably won't be a very nice experience. For one, you wouldn't get messages on Messenger/Snapchat/etc until you open the app yourself. And also, opening those apps will become much slower.
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i dont understand your reply. why openin automatically? i used before note 3 never nothing happens like that..
It must have been like this on the Note 3, as well, but you just didn't notice it. Because, as I said, it's always like that. In every Android phone. Apps open themselves because they have to. You can force stop them - some stay closed when you do that, some don't depending on what they do, and what their function is. You can use Greenify and make them actually stay closed, which I guarantee you will not like one bit.
My point is you're talking about a feature that's been there since ever, as if it were a problem. It's not. It's what makes your phone run smoothly, and shows you your messages as soon as someone sends them, and makes your alarms go off, and allows you to find your phone if it's lost, and the list goes on.