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While I love CM7 or many other stock android based roms out there, two things on stock android that keeps me going back to Sense-based rom. Rubbish camera app, and so so dialer/contact app.
So this week I have discovered "Go Contact", which is a really decent dialer+contact app that can make me forget about the Sense dialer/contact. But what about camera app?
Stock Android camera app really sucks. Ugly UI with extremely limited control settings, I'm not talking about "vintage looking" filters and all those stuff, but things like ISO settings. As much as I hate Blur or TouchWiz, but almost every phone that I have tried with custom manufacturer UI has camera app that is much better than stock Android's one.
I see that some people have extracted the camera app from Sony Ericsson phones and it seems like it can be installed and used on stock Android framework. I haven't tried that though. My question is, is there any decent camera app on the Market that is comparable to Sense's camera app? That is non-proprietary and not made by manufacturer like Samsung/HTC/Motorola/LG/Sony?
There's a market app called lgcamera that has been recommended to me. Going to try it out today. It also has a camcorder that supports higher bitrate video and in mp4 format instead of 3gp.
Thanks, just tried it out. The UI is a bit rough and needs some work, but it does seem promising. I'll try to do some serious testing with it tomorrow. BTW, does it have anything to do with LG?
No idea, maybe it's based on an lg camera or something..
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Camera360 Ultimate has been my standby on my Desire running CM7. i threw it on my Sensation (running Leedroid) and for some reason, it doesn't go full screen. hopefully when i get CM7 on it, this will be fixed up...
Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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You might check out Vignette it is a paid app but has fantastic reviews. I use it and love it.
Vignette, or FxCamera for that matter, is definitely NOT the type of camera application that I'm looking for. I'm looking for camera apps that give various camera controls like ISO, white balance, exposure, contrast, sharpness, and preferably compression ratio. It would be great if there were apps that provides shutter speed and aperture settings, but I suppose these two settings are harder to implement die to hardware differences.
So far lgCamera seems to be the most promising... Camera 360 has much better UI, but does not offer as many camera controls as lgCamera.
tsekh501 said:
Vignette, or FxCamera for that matter, is definitely NOT the type of camera application that I'm looking for. I'm looking for camera apps that give various camera controls like ISO, white balance, exposure, contrast, sharpness, and preferably compression ratio. It would be great if there were apps that provides shutter speed and aperture settings, but I suppose these two settings are harder to implement die to hardware differences.
So far lgCamera seems to be the most promising... Camera 360 has much better UI, but does not offer as many camera controls as lgCamera.
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lgCamera is promising, but it has it's problems with freezing videos - never quite sure if when you stop recording it will be able to save the video :-( - plus it cannot record in stereo :-(
let´s starting a petition ro getting hipstamativ on android.
it´s nothing than the most awesome camera.app out there.
http://hipstamatic.com/the_app.html
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Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
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But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
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Same problem here with atrix
The lgcamera app def takes better pictures imo. I was taking pictures back to back and can def see the difference.
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rogermiet said:
But with Camer 360 Ultimate this will not work. I changed the resolution and nothing happened. It was still not fitting the screen (no fullscreen).
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Are you using a downloaded apk? If so then turn compatibility off within spare parts, reboot your phone and try the app again.
The thing i'm looking for is a camera with manual focus not the ****ty touch to focus crap which htc seem to deem acceptable or for that matter, 360, zoom, vignette or any of the others i've tried, no camera seems to offer manual zoom, like a slider or a dial.
Pretty bad when you want to take a pic up close, using macro doesn't always work.
lokhor said:
There's a market app called lgcamera that has been recommended to me. Going to try it out today. It also has a camcorder that supports higher bitrate video and in mp4 format instead of 3gp.
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Great app, thx for the tip!
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Camera 360 works fullscreen. You will just have to change the picture resolution. It's a great replacement for the sense camera.
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I tried to do so, changed resolution to 3264x2448, restarted app, but can't get it to work full screen :/
Same problem here with my Sensation.
With the new roms based on ICS seems that the problem is solved (Camera360 runs full screen).
Two months ago, or more, I sent an email to the developers but they have not done anything.
I'm testing CameraPro that has enough advanced options.
Use MIUI rom... it has a decent camera. Here are a few pics taken with it... the one pic is the same but in night and day.
I am really getting annoyed by shaky videos made by our Sensation ...
Is there any way to enable AntiShake or video stabilization...?
I personally think it's software capability not related to hardware...
Xperia Arc has great stabilization... someone port its camera or enable Anti-Shake thing for videos on Sensation ...
yeah, agreed. In my videos, sometimes they're great.. but sometimes you can see how much it shakes. It's awful
video quality is great but this shaky video spoils the whole fun ..
even incredible S has Anti shake, so why not Sensation?...
Anyone using HTC Amaze Camera can tell if this feature is there or not...?
I believe this feature is coming with ICS. Don't quote me on it though.
As this source reports it should have a stabilizer onboard:
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/cell-phones/htc-sensation-4g.aspx?page=3
Anti-shake was working in one of the Roms I've used - Just can't remember which :-(
not in sensation roms .... must have seen it in some other devices ...
all we need is video stabilization...
LGcamera app has an anti-shake option.
Just, last time I used this app, despite it has lots of options and can record 1080p HD into mp4, I found the videos not as good as with the stock app
But the app was updated several times since, maybe it's better now, I'll have to try it again
Kind of bummed about that
I thought the Sensation had it automatically and I never checked it before.
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I thought the Sensation had it automatically and I never checked it before.
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sadly this option even lacks in GS2... the only set I know with awesome video stabilization is Xperia Arc..
Have you tried the Amaze camera? Not sure if it has it, but it might be worth a shot.
The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
Thanks
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audiogab said:
The title said it all...i want to take the mots beautiful pictures possible, and i experience imo some diferent quality depending on wich rom i used .
Maybe someone had an aswer for me...
Thanks
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If you install sense based roms the camera is much better compared to cm10 or asop roms
All sense based roms, the camera is better
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Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX
Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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Although I prefer the ui of the sense camera, the cm camera still seems to produce similar quality images. At least I don't notice a difference.
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That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
There's a lot of talk from the AOSP camp about using apps from Play Store to take nice pictures with the AOSP camera, but you just can't replicate the quality of the Sense camera. The AOSP camera cannot take an image in the same definition as the Sense camera can, so you're just trying to beautify a lower definition image.
After all that, to the OP: The Viper XL 2.0 rom uses the latest version and it takes beautiful images.
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Camera appears to function as stock camera running ViperX
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There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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That's not really true. The AOSP roms don't make use of the Imagesense chip. I've used both and the AOSP camera doesn't come anywhere near close to the Sense camera.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.
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There are a number of differences between the camera on ViperXL and stock. For one thing, the camera on Viper is the Sense 4.5 camera (slightly different interface layout, and more "Scene" options). Also the hi-bitrate camera mod option is available in AROMA when flashing Viper.
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I've only played with AOSP ROMs for a short time. But the camera is one thing I focused on, and I agree with the poster above yours, that there does not seem to be a significant difference between the image quality on AOSP vs. Sense.
I haven't read any meaningful mention of what the ImageSense chip actually does. My gut feel is that its just marketing baloney, and not a tangible difference.
The difference I have noticed, is that the Sense camera is much faster at auto-focusing before capturing the photo, and its in important difference. Layout of the Sense camara IMO is also more functional, and has some features I believe are not present in AOSP, including face recognition and tapping on an specific area of the image to focus there. Also believe the AOSP camera does not include an aspect ratio that takes advantage of the full screen size at full resolution.
As I've already mentioned, my experience with the AOSP camera is pretty limited. But from what I've experience, the Sense camera wins on a bunch of aspects. Not image quality, but other features.
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Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.
HTC has installed dedicated ISP...which is major reason of better image quality on HOX...AOSP roms may not have required libs to use ISP...just my thought.
And yes...Sense based roms have better image quality than AOSP roms.
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Sorry but I just don't understand how people can't see the difference in quality.
I'm currently doing some testing on both cameras and will post the results sometime tomorrow.
I'll have some side-by-side comparisons of identical scenes from both cameras for people to check out, about ten in total.
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As I mentioned, my time on AOSP ROMs is limited. And I didn't do any side-by-side comparisons. Just based on my opinion, and purely anecdotal evidence, so take it for what its worth. But while I won't call myself a photographer (or anything close), I do spend a good amount of time on my DSLR as an amateur enthusiast, and at least a bit discriminating about photo quality. And I didn't see any significant difference in image quality.
I'd love to see your side-by-side comparisons.
I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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I just need to take a few more shots with the AOSP camera then I'll compile them all and let you know.
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I am excited to see these, as I'm currently on CM10 and trying to decide if I want to jump over to Viper for a bit.
Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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Ok so I got the images uploaded, here's the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
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Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.
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Really wish you would have just posted the comparison pics here. Its really the same topic, and it makes for a disjointed discussion.
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I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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I guess I felt that the topic deserved its own thread, so it's easier for people to actually find a comparison between the cameras. It's the only thread I could find that actually shows that.
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Yeah, I see the point in getting more exposure to comparison pics in particular. But it just makes for a disjointed discussion, as I mentioned. You and I had some discussion that started here, and it gets carried over there. Then other users that pick up the discussion on the other thread don't know what we discussed on this thread. See what I'm getting at?
I don't think you're really in the wrong here, just my 2 cents.
Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?
Simply, no.
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antonyfirst said:
Is there a way to bring the sense Camera application and libraries as an additional flash zip to AOSP roms?
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Rohan made a detailed explanation here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1780038
To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.
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To compare AOSP and Sense camera results, one would have create very controlled conditions and be very scientific. From my experience, the comparison can be very subjective. I have known both cameras to perform just fine to the extent that we can use them. I prefer the Sense camera only because it has some options that I like.
My sincere suggestion to you is to try them both and come to your own conclusions.
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A new thread was made in the General subforum, with some comparison pics. I'll agree that they are not necessarily as controlled or scientific as you mentioned. But interesting, nonetheless. You may find some of the results surprising, even.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943160
When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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Which ROM are you using?
Rom I'm using.
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Which ROM are you using?
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Im using CM 9.1 by scverhagen.
Yeh I have the same rom as you CM9 R8 and to me the image on the screen isnt as clear but when you take a pic it seems the resolution turns out better than you expected. I also noticed that the camera button on the side of your phone doesnt work which is lame I really liked using that for picture taking it was handy but oh well cant be perfect for a rom. If you want also do what I did, I just downloaded other camera and video apps. Way better than the stock app and on the screen they show up as better resolution than the stock app
Yeah, unfortunately the camera apps that come with CM/AOKP ROMs are very lacking on this phone, compared to the stock camera app. There are some third-party apps that do reasonably well, though. I like Camera360.
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When ever I take pictures their are black bars on the side of the pictures. Also when I'm in the camera app everything looks like it has a weird filter but when I take the picture they are clear.
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The black bars on the side is because the phone has a 16x9 screen but the picture is being taken in the 4:3 ratio. It's the same thing as watching an old tv show on a new widescreen tv.
Talking about our camera, has anyone figured out a way to port our camera to Cyanogen? That's the only thing that's stopping me from flashing a Rom, considering I've had this phone for a year.
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The black bars on the side is because the phone has a 16x9 screen but the picture is being taken in the 4:3 ratio. It's the same thing as watching an old tv show on a new widescreen tv.
Talking about our camera, has anyone figured out a way to port our camera to Cyanogen? That's the only thing that's stopping me from flashing a Rom, considering I've had this phone for a year.
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CM will never run a Sense camera because of framework/libs
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Give ICS Camera or Camera JB+ a try. They are definitely fitting replacements for stock and you'll be very happy with results.
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I've tried both apps but have serious issues with those and the included ICS or JB camera apps. So far none have worked to record video.
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1080 does not work on anything but a GB ROM with this phone, make sure that at most 720 is selected...
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Give ICS Camera or Camera JB+ a try. They are definitely fitting replacements for stock and you'll be very happy with results.
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Well I'm running the RemICS_UX port from the HD2. Not bad of a rom. It's over samsungized but I'll find a theme for it. It claims to have the 1080p recording so lets see how that works out.
I personally don't care for all the "features" of the stock CAMERA app since I can always download a 3rd party app that will be on par. I only use night mode, macro and automatic. My main concern is 1080p recording (and that the mic doesn't sound so crappy).
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Well I'm running the RemICS_UX port from the HD2. Not bad of a rom. It's over samsungized but I'll find a theme for it. It claims to have the 1080p recording so lets see how that works out.
I personally don't care for all the "features" of the stock CAMERA app since I can always download a 3rd party app that will be on par. I only use night mode, macro and automatic. My main concern is 1080p recording (and that the mic doesn't sound so crappy).
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I believe the 1080 not working has more to do with HTC Android drivers for the camera, rather than the available choice in the software.
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I believe the 1080 not working has more to do with HTC Android drivers for the camera, rather than the available choice in the software.
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Yeah, trying to record in 1080 makes the button useless. I'm starting to feel that the phone doesn't have real 1080p feature. My last phone was a Huawei Comet/U8150 and I had a very similar issue with the camera. Turned out that the phone had a 2.0 megapixel camera that was made to look like a 3.0 by the stock software. It was a sorry excuse of a camera.
I'm going to have to think about this one. I wonder if we could somehow port or rewrite a code to get 1080p working. Sadly, I know nothing about android development. My main thought was to sit the htc camera apk on top of cyanogen but I've read up that it's not that simple.... which I find weird considering someone has the beats by dre stuff on their mytouch4g slide rom.
Its not to complicated to understand but it is to fix. You see it does have true 1080 recording and it still one of the best cellphone cameras to date. Thing is if you want to run a custom ROM that is not based of the original T-Mobile release then some things may not be the same, the camera being one.
Unless you can get ahold of the proprietary camera drivers or write you're own you will be missing much of what is available. And any app based off the HTC framework will not work of different, such as cyanogen or even aosp.
Even phones that have been nearly torn apart by some super smart people doesn't mean that everything imaginable is possible or at least not easy. Try running sense on a Samsung phone, not too easy. Just saying be happy for what you have unless you know a sneaky backdoor to these issues that no one has thought of yet
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I knew it had to lay within the coding.
I already imagined that it would be hard. Such a shame...
This is very similar to my hugely popular mod for the Nexus 7 that I did. I did this because it seems CM on the One doesn't support 720p or 1080p, so maybe some vloggers or people who like to take videos of themselves (vain people?) would enjoy this very simple modification.
I got 1080p video recording working on my One under CM and felt you guys should know about this too. It's a simple fix as it's not a limitation of hardware or a kernel function or anything, rather for some reason HTC is using a weird way to enable 1080p in the stock firmware that doesn't carry over to CM. They aren't using the media_profiles.xml. This mod includes 1080p recording for the front camera, as well as some alterations to the bitrate of the audio and video to give it slightly better quality in the output videos. You won't really notice it unless you're really trying, but it's little things that all add up to give a better experience.
This is NOT needed under stock ROMs
Somehow, HTC have made their camera application NOT need to read the media_profiles.xml, and as a result the stock ROM does not need this modification. Only CM based ROMs need this. I don't know if it's needed under the Google Edition firmware or not. You'll have to let me know.
How To Install
Download the zip (M7-1080p-Camera-for-CM)
Reboot to recovery
Install
Reboot to Android
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PROFIT!
The Mod
It's the same deal as on the Nexus 7: simply use my attached pre-modified file and push it to /system/etc/media_profiles.xml. I expect the permissions will be 644.
How It Works
I had to explain this on the Nexus 7, so I'll explain it again. The hardware already supports this functionality as the camera itself just sends RAW information to the processor, and then based on the settings the processor is given by Android, the processor encodes it in the format it's been told to, for example for the rear camera it would be told to record 1920x1080 @ a certain bitrate to H.264. The processor itself doesn't tell Android what the hardware is capable of (and considering the Snapdragon 600s enormous video encoder capabilities, they're very high), Android is told what it can do by the file media_profiles.xml.
No this will not improve video quality in Skype/Hangouts/whatever other thing you want to do, this will only work for video recording applications.
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Check the attachments below. There are two files: media_profiles and M7-1080p-Camera-for-CM - media_profiles is JUST the XML file, and M7-1080p-Camera-for-CM is the installer for CWM/TWRP. Most users will want that. Just install it from in CM.
Video For Your Delectation
I'll make a YouTube video of it soon
am I totally wrong or the HTC One front facing camera records on 1080p, so why this?
I'm guessing that somehow I'm wrong and this is actually useful
tyraelasd said:
am I totally wrong or the HTC One front facing camera records on 1080p, so why this?
I'm guessing that somehow I'm wrong and this is actually useful
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You are not wrong, I'm also seeing all the same profiles (MMS, 720P, 1080P) when switching to the front camera... so why this MOD? lol
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You are not wrong, I'm also seeing all the same profiles (MMS, 720P, 1080P) when switching to the front camera... so why this MOD? lol
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Interesting. It appears to work in the stock firmware, but not on CM, but even in the stock firmware it doesn't have the 1080p media profiles. I'm guessing HTC are doing something sneaky to make it work. Well this mod still works for CM nonetheless. Guess I need to add this to CM like I did with the N7. Of course the purpose of this mod is slightly killed by the front camera working like *** on CM.
Good to know though.
Seeing this mod is rather pointless on the stock ROMs, I will make it useful and max out the encoder capabilities. Be back in an hour when I find the full abilities of the Snapdragon 600s video encoder.
EDIT: Updated first post to now include my updated media_profiles.xml for 1080p front camera recording and increased bitrate video and audio.
Just realised why CM doesn't do 1080p for the front camera. They use a common media_profiles.xml for ALL MSM8960 HTC devices.. which means older crappier phones have the same profile. Effectively, this limits CM on the One a lot. Lemme relearn how to make a commit to CM so I can add this into their repo.
Does this get rid of the green hue in the front camera too in CM?
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xjedi said:
Does this get rid of the green hue in the front camera too in CM?
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Unfortunately not. I'm not sure what causes that, but I want to look into it because it's really odd it only happens to the front camera. I suspect the sensor has a weird colour profile that isn't being set up right? Could be wrong.
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Unfortunately not. I'm not sure what causes that, but I want to look into it because it's really odd it only happens to the front camera. I suspect the sensor has a weird colour profile that isn't being set up right? Could be wrong.
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In my case, that green hue is related to light surrounding (I ain't sure what's the term for it, but it's that sun/cloudy/AW/bulb thingy in camera settings circle).
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In my case, that green hue is related to light surrounding (I ain't sure what's the term for it, but it's that sun/cloudy/AW/bulb thingy in camera settings circle).
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Yeah I find it changes depending on the lighting as well.
Glad to see you over here
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So much time past from last post but this mod works on GPE stock 4.4.3 (I'm not kidding).
Thanks a lot