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Guys im really confused..... can't decide between the xoom, acer iconia tab and the transformer.... Plz help.... I heard transformer has many issues such as light bleeding..... plz share your experience with me......
Plz let me know if you have any other tab in mind which I can buy......
(and if some one could tell me whether the transformer has a ddr2 ram or ddr3??)
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vari9 said:
Guys im really confused..... can't decide between the xoom, acer iconia tab and the transformer.... Plz help.... I heard transformer has many issues such as light bleeding..... plz share your experience with me......
Plz let me know if you have any other tab in mind which I can buy......
(and if some one could tell me whether the transformer has a ddr2 ram or ddr3??)
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some transformers have a bleed issue, not all, mine doesn't or at least it's so light i don't notice it.....makes for an AMAZING comic/book reader....loving it so far
Do you want the keyboard dock? I did and chose the 32GB Transformer. I am very pleased with it. The screen is really good. I have never seen this bleed problem. Don't worry about DDR2 or DDR3. What counts is that the Transformer is very fast. Expect for some bragging rights, all of the Terga 2 tablets are about the same performance. It's more about the features.
Bye.
Could someone post me a pic of how the transformer looks like with the bleed......and can't I (if I buy it) get it fixed under warranty??
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No bleeding here, so I can't help. Just wanted to add my 2 cents that I love my TF and have no issues with it.
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No bleeding here, so I can't help. Just wanted to add my 2 cents that I love my TF and have no issues with it.
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Is the battery life fine......
Its just that I feel I should wait for the asus padphone
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vari9 said:
Is the battery life fine......
Its just that I feel I should wait for the asus padphone
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Padfone is coming out around Christmas. That'll be a long wait.
Regarding backlight bleeding. Not sure if I have it or not. I haven't gone into a dark room and looked at a black wall paper with maximum brightness lately.
I think a lot of the backlight bleeding is being blown out of proportion as it requires very unnatural conditions to really even notice. I don't think it's something to really worry about.
Anyway, I'd much rather have the Transformer's nice high contrast IPS quality display with some backlight bleeding rather than that washed out Xoom or A500 display.
One other thing. The Transformer feels a lot lighter than the Xoom or A500. The Transformer is a no brainer if you can find one.
I love my Transformer and it just got a bit better last night- update to 3.1.
I hate to say this - bc of jinx factor, but i have had no issues with mine.
A good way to see if you have light bleed issue is go to nook app, pull up a book and set it for night reading. it will blacken the screen. I have a min amount of light bleed. not enough to worry.
A friend has xoom and is selling for transformer. Not sure about acer.
But my recommendation is asus....
NOW go get it.
If its TAB 10.1 vs TF, there is something to give a thought for. Xoom vs TF vs Acer, TF is a no brainer for me.
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If its TAB 10.1 vs TF, there is something to give a thought for. Xoom vs TF vs Acer, TF is a no brainer for me.
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For me Tab vs TF isn't comparable. The Tab comes with no HW I/F but a propietary connector, and iPad-like experience. No SD/USB/HDMI until you use propietary accesories.
I somehow regret it, because I like Samsung very much, but no I/F is a big fail for me.
Regards.
Transformer...all the way!..Loving it...no issues...no COSTLY accessories...and best part is..Its OPEN SOURCE....and DEVELOPED everyday!...Go get one...along with a DOCK...yes...thats the feature you wont find in any other one...so go on...get it...
I have all three sitting on my desk. 32GB Xoom, and 16GB TF and Iconia.
If cost is no object I will take the Xoom. Smaller footprint, better selection of cases and it just feels and looks more "industrial".
With that being said I can also tell you that all of my team is getting the Transformer. Looks great, feels ok and is $200 less.
I can't speak specifically to battery life on the Transformer as I have not had it in the field enough but for me the Xoom will give me two, sometimes three days of use before a recharge under normal use. Heavy usage online and I get a really full day +
All in all I'm please with all of them but the Xoom and the Transformer stand out.
I just went through 2 Transformers. Beautiful IPS display, probably the best display of any android tablet at the moment. When used with the keyboard dock it's as close to a perfect duo any android base device will give you. Unfortunately, for me, I had issues with both devices. The first one had a tiny red stuck pixel in the center of the screen, to the left of it was a small piece of dust stuck under the screen, the right hand side suffered from creaking, and like many report I had backlight issues. The second tablet was pristine except for very noticible backlight bleed toward the bottom. This wouldn't have been such a major issue, however, since HC's status tab is black and right square where the bleed was, I couldn't deal with the fact that I'd be staring at it 24/7. Tigerdirect has been terrific with their customer services, but having to wait roughly 3 weeks for them to restock their inventory is a bit of a headache. RMAing to Asus is almost just as long. My advice to you is decide on what you need first before jumping in this generation. There are quite a few choices out there. Additionally this generation (Tegra 2) has been slow to mature. We've had tablets since November with very little fan fare, the eruption just started in February/March.....and with Tegra 3 and several Intel solutions within the next several months, it's important to keep your options open. I think we're about to hit a golden age of tablet computing due to high competition and increasingly incredible technology. Normally I am not the one to advocate waiting...as really, there is very little point with a hobby as everchanging as ours ...but in this instance with the late maturation of Tegra 2 I'm not sure....in any case if you're looking
cheap:
Nook Color/Viewsonic G-Tab;
bang for your buck:
Asus Transformer
blatant ripoff:
Motorola Xoom
One more question....is the 3.1 upgrade available to the asian region??
And the bleeding issue can be fixed right???
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I had the Prime, but took it back because of the hardware issues.
A few months later, I am looking to get a 10" tablet again. Is the TF300T the best choice?
I am surprised at the lack of activity in here.
The Nexus tablet could be cool, but it's only 7". I think I will order the TF300T, it's $530 on amazon with the keyboard.
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Depends how you define "best". Do you mean the thinnest, the lightest, the fastest, the best screen, the best audio,......no. It's not.
It's definitely near the top of the bunch, but I wouldn't call it the best. That title would probably go to the Transformer Pad Infinity or whatever they're calling it. It will however give you the most value for your money.
It's essentially a Prime except 1mm thicker, a bit heavier and with a less bright screen. All the GPS, bluetooth, wifi and quality issues have been dealt with here though, plus the Micro SD and regular SD card slots are a tad deeper so the cards won't go flying anytime soon.
So while in terms of raw specs it isn't at the top of the line, it's pretty damn close and it's pretty cheap considering what you're getting. I remember last year I bought the 14mm thick Toshiba Tab for more lol.
One of the best I had, but I can´t compare it to the prime.
Fantastic Wlan and GPS, For me the screen is nearly perfekt, if you root it and put one of the custom roms out there on it it´s smooth and fast. And on the bench you are not so far away from a prime, when you OC your Tf300. So for me: One of the best for that price.
Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.
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Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.
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What tablet or tablets out have 2 gb of ram? As far as I know the tf300t is the only one that has the best ram with 1gb ddr 3 ram. People were talking that the Acer a510 has ddr 3 ram but it doesn't. The Acer a700 with 1080p screen still clocked at 1.3 has 1 gb ddr2 ram that isn't out yet but pre order price of 449.99 is great. The tf700 will handle the 1080p screen much better with it being clocked at 1.6 and ddr 3 ram. But I heard it will come out next month at 499.99 for the 32gb version.
For the money and functionality you can't beat the tf300 unless you can wait a month. I think the tf700 will be a monster at 500 bucks.
You all convinced me. My TF300T is coming tomorrow. $515 with the keyboard and one day shipping.
Where did you get that price?
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You all convinced me. My TF300T is coming tomorrow. $515 with the keyboard and one day shipping.
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I did about the same but had to do some big bartering with price matches etc and multiple ads etc.
If they had released the red one first I wold definitely buy one of these and upgrade my tf101 but after seeing the infinity... I'm gonna happily wait for that
I think its the best tablet in its price category. It beats out other tablets in the 300-400$ range as far as hardware. But it'll be hard to compare it to other, more expensive tablets that are out/coming out.
You can't beat the tegra 3 and DDR3 right now.
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What do you guys think about the new Acer A700 compared to the transformer tf300? I just got transformer so I can still exchange it but I heard bad things about Acer's quality built sucking.
The main difference is the hd screen. But I'm new to Asus so what do you guys think?
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What do you guys think about the new Acer A700 compared to the transformer tf300? I just got transformer so I can still exchange it but I heard bad things about Acer's quality built sucking.
The main difference is the hd screen. But I'm new to Asus so what do you guys think?
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asus is going to release the pad infinity which also has that same resolution too, but its screen is IPS+, for acer i think it's just IPS, and according to androidauthority, it will be released at the price $499, i'm hoping it's the wifi only 32 gig version, so if that's true, you just need to spend $50 more to get the pad infinity, i can't think of anything to "complain" about it at that price.
also the pad infinity has better specs, like flash camera, 8-megapixel camera on the back, 2 megapixel on the front, dockable,...
imo, acer products are not good, many people say asus products are always better than acer. i would never consider buying an acer product
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asus is going to release the pad infinity which also has that same resolution too, but its screen is IPS+, for acer i think it's just IPS, and according to androidauthority, it will be released at the price $499, i'm hoping it's the wifi only 32 gig version, so if that's true, you just need to spend $50 more to get the pad infinity, i can't think of anything to "complain" about it at that price.
also the pad infinity has better specs, like flash camera, 8-megapixel camera on the back, 2 megapixel on the front, dockable,...
imo, acer products are not good, many people say asus products are always better than acer. i would never consider buying an acer product
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I really dig my TF300, just sucks that I got it right when something newer and better is about to come out. Then again, that's every time when it comes to tech devices.
Regarding the Pad Infinity, I'm reading from multiple websites that the price will most likely be around $785USD. That's way to pricey for me but I'm leaning towards keeping my TF300 anyways. Compared to the Acer, the screen is really the only big difference. Not sure if I want to trade something good for something that could be faulty just for the screen.
For me it was the price.
I can tinker with it as much as I want to without being overly afraid of bricking it.
On top of that it's got really nice specs.
Good processing power, decent screen, awesome sound.
And cheap!
It's bang-for-buck galore. Not the best but definitely really, really good for the price.
No comparison between the tf700 and the a700. Besides having the ips+ display, keyboard docking ability, better camera with flash, the tf700 will have the latest tegra 3 version and clocked at 1.6 with the 1080p screen. The a700 is running the same tegra 3 version as the a510 at 1.3 running a 1080p screen. The a500 is also running ddr 2 ram as the tf700 should be running the same as the tf300 ddr 3.
For 50.00 more I pick the tf700. So wait for the tf700. 1 month away at the most.
P.S. I read that someone inside Asus said the tf700 will come out at 499.99.
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No comparison between the tf700 and the a700. Besides having the ips+ display, keyboard docking ability, better camera with flash, the tf700 will have the latest tegra 3 version and clocked at 1.6 with the 1080p screen. The a700 is running the same tegra 3 version as the a510 at 1.3 running a 1080p screen. The a500 is also running ddr 2 ram as the tf700 should be running the same as the tf300 ddr 3.
For 50.00 more I pick the tf700. So wait for the tf700. 1 month away at the most.
P.S. I read that someone inside Asus said the tf700 will come out at 499.99.
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yes, you're making a good decision
this is what i'm doing too. if they release it at the end of June, then we only have to wait a half month
hopefully $499 is the price for the wifi only version, not the 4G LTE version with contract
nooktablet said:
yes, you're making a good decision
this is what i'm doing too. if they release it at the end of June, then we only have to wait a half month
hopefully $499 is the price for the wifi only version, not the 4G LTE version with contract
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We have 3 tf300 in the house but at least one will be replaced by the tf700.
NCRoadster said:
Thanks for the replies.
I have thought about it, and my most wanted features are:
Processing Speed: Looks like tegra 3 is the best right now. I do like the processor, and I think it makes more sense to have that in a tablet vs a phone because the tablet will have a bigger battery. I see that the new tablets coming out have 2GB of ram. I'm pretty excited about that.
Display: I do want to do some basic photo editing on the tablet, and look at my pics taken with my phone. 1080p would be nice, but not necessary.
Hardware quality: The Prime's issues really bummed me out. I hope Asus does better with the Infinity.
Updates: I was looking at the Galaxy Tab 7.7. but it's still on Honeycomb. This is unacceptable. Good thing Asus is quick to update their products.
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Ive had A LOT of tablets, and currently own 2 TF300's, and the galaxy tab 7.7. And love both for different reasons. The 7.7 has the best screen out of all Ive had, but as you pointed out the lack of updates from Samsung sucks, but I still love it. And once it does get ICS Ill love it even more. But for the 10" market the TF300 is hard to beat. After several TF300's with dust, hair, fuzz under the screen, and a dead pixel I finally have a good 32gb. I also have a 16gb thats currently being repaired at Asus and the repair is being paid for by Best Buy. Ill be returning that one for a refund when I get it back. But despite all this I love my TF300.
I don't have a tablet at all. I returned the Acer A700 due to various issues.
I know that there is opinions when the infinity will be released. But I miss having a tab. And wanted to know if the infinity is worth the wait? Or is the TF300 more than adequate?
I have had the original TF and the prime. I didn't like the acer at all...
So just looking for opinions. I do play a few games here and there. But mainly watch movies and browse the web..
I also had the Acer A700 and returned it mainly for the HEAT. I just got the TF300 today. So far I can tell you without a doubt that the TF300 is by far the fastest tablet I have used. Its thinner than the A700 and I think the screen is also nicer color wise. Yes the A700 did have sharper text (Due to the Higher Resolution) but colors still looked better to me on the TF300. The TF300 I got has no backlight bleed at all, the A700 had some. The TF300 can be unlocked with easy. So far I am liking the TF300 much much better than the Acer A700. I think the problem with the Acer a700 is the CPU or GPU can not keep up with the new High Res. That might be the same issue the TF700 might have when its released in a few weeks. Also with tax the TF700 will be like $550. The TF300 can be had at time for $350 ( I got mine for $350) so is slightly sharper text with it for another $200? For me it wasn't. So far very impressed with the TF300...
Lot of negative comments on this forum. For those of us still on the fence who have been holding off - is there anything else out there that DOES meet everyones lofty requirements?
I've been thinking about the a700. I've seen it and used it and liked the screen, but haven't been able to compare to the TF700 screen. Anyone used both - pros and cons - know about the heat issue - had an a510 and disabled antivirus and never had any heat issues in normal use so not too concerned about that. The a700 has much better speakers as well.
Also just purchased a Toshiba Excite 7.7 - best tablet I have ever owned - insanely good Super amoled screen. Any Excite 7.7 owners that have used a TF700 and have compared the two screens - I'm doubting I could get used to anything else after using the Super amoled - but am still tempted by the TF700's super IPS+.
Don't buy Acer. Get the nexus 7 if you're low on money.
Prior to purchasing Transformer Infinity I did lots of google search everday to see what's the review like for transformer infinity. You will find many Iconia a700 reviews referring to TF700, and pretty much all I saw was a700 is not quite as good as TF700 except the price. Supposedly it gets really warm, everything lags, heavier etc.
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Don't buy Acer. Get the nexus 7 if you're low on money.
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Money is no concern. Bought the Excite 7.7 which is arguably the most overpriced tablet out there - paying for a Super Amoled + screen and Tegra 3 quad core.
Just interested in the best tablet available.
And don't buy Acer - could you qualify that with a because....
The nexus 7 is having quite a few problems - their forum is as negative as the Infinity.
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Money is no concern. Bought the Excite 7.7 which is arguably the most overpriced tablet out there - paying for a Super Amoled + screen and Tegra 3 quad core.
Just interested in the best tablet available.
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Get an ipad.
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Get an ipad.
Trolled hard.
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Thought about that too - ipad Retina display and crapple OS vs Excite 7.7 Super Amoled vs TF700 Super IPS+ vs Acer a700 with 1080p and superior speakers and the winnner is.....
See that's where I get stuck....
Really curious to hear from those who have owned both the a700 and the TF700
Really don't like the mono speakers on ASUS tablets. I have a TF300 - louder than the transformer prime - but still lopsided and mono. Wondering, if the screens are similar, why the Acer with better speakers is not a viable choice. Or does the Super IPS+ screen so outclass the a700 screen that its worth sacrificing decent speakers? As for Acer quality - not hearing great things about ASUS quality either these days so......
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Thought about that too - ipad Retina display and crapple OS vs Excite 7.7 Super Amoled vs TF700 Super IPS+ vs Acer a700 with 1080p and superior speakers and the winnner is.....
See that's where I get stuck....
Really curious to hear from those who have owned both the a700 and the TF700
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Heh, didn't see my little thing at the end there did you.
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If money is not an option buy them all and try them all out at the same time for the 30 or 45 day return period. Then pick your winner. I used to do that but it takes up a lot of time and stressful.
I still think the TF700 will be the winner as long as they get fixes out quickly.
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The nexus 7 is having quite a few problems - their forum is as negative as the Infinity.
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Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.
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Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.
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Maximum butt pain go.
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I have both the Acer a700 and the Asus TF700 in front of me right now. I have had the Acer a couple weeks and I'm on the second one. The Acer has a very nice screen in fact one of the best I have seen until I got the Asus yesterday. It makes the Acer screen seem dull. I have heat problems with the Acer and it seems to lock up so I have to shut down frequently and restart.
I like the sound on the Acer along with the rubber backing make it easy to hold but all in all I like the Asus better. It's not as laggy as the Acer and it doesn't get near as hot. It lighter and a little faster. I don't like the big connector for charging sticking out of the bottom but I think its one nice tablet and match that with a dock and you have a long lasting battery.
That said the Acer is going back and I'm keeping the Asus. I hope the JB update will make it even better.
Here is a video doing a comparison of the Acer with the Asus 300T. Guess who won that battle....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWOKpOPaZbU
I believe in CNET's reviews when they talk about the bad of a product, so if you're like me and don't want to waste your time look at my signature to see how lag the A700 is.
Hey guys, I've owned both these tablets and though i will put my two cents in
First off, my clear winner here is the infinity tab. Most of the complaints on this form are not particularly about the hardware, more app comp ability issues and such. It is a brand new Android tablet, so expect a little time before Asus can release a firmware update, they usually do (based on past history of Asus tablets). Because of that, I can forgive the few basic glitches I have run into. Let me break it down though:
The Acer does get very warm. Not hot, but very very warm. A little bit warmer than the Ipad 3. Not to hard to forgive considering most people would get a case or some protection for it (it really only emits heat from the lower right side of the tablet). However, where the Acer really loses my vote, and why I returned it, is the hardware. Yes; it has a 1080p screen, but you have DDR2 ram and only 1.3ghz processing capabilities, so because of having to push that full HD, its my belief that it just cant keep up sometimes. The Asus has DDR3 (clocked higher as well) and 1.6ghz processing (I've overclocked to 1.8 ghz) so it tends to be able render things better. Asus also puts in better firmware built in. Overall, the Asus is the winner!!
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O...M...G... I'm really starting to feel you should save up some dollars by stopping taking those drugs and get yourself an anally-inclined prostitute, or a rubber doll.
The real downside to the A700 is the heat issue, or lack of heat dissipation, since the Asus can get as hot but not show it as apparent. The Acer has a much better sound system then the awful TF700 mono speaker (why Asus, why?) which is fairly important for a multimedia device. Yes, the Acer is clocked less but it appears the Asus is also having a hard time keeping up which points to the Android system needing some high res tweaking. The real setback will be the community... The Asus will have alot of support built around it while the Acer doesn't seem to have attracted many developer inclined people. This is mostly due to the panned reviews, and the overshadow that the Infinity and mostly the Nexus 7 has cast over it. It's still a good tablet for those that are less demanding which are mostly people not affiliated with this website. I have one and will stick with it since it works for what I need it for which is web surfing, watching movies and listening to music... And yes, that guy is highly annoying and played out already.
Another former A700 owner here, now running with an Infinity.
I too, will back up the feedback that other "dual owners" here have given. I really wanted to love the A700, but the heat issues made it unusable for me. Were the speakers better on the A700? Yes. Did the A700 subjectively feel rock solid? Yes. Did the A700's screen look damn good? Yes.
But the TF700 is stable. The TF700's screen looks better to my eyes. And the TF700 doesn't get insanely hot after what should be normal usage conditions (i.e. gaming).
I'll keep it short.... Get the asus TF700T.
It has been said before and i agree 100%! My Acer A700 has also been send back to the store it came from(because of the heat issue and reboots).
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Wonder why........ oh I get it!! That's because its the same damn company that made both tablets.
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If you go to any forums with a new product, you will come away leaving negative, because people only post when they have issues. They are not going to sit and post all day about how much they love their tablets.
I was surprised to hear you say that about the Nexus 7. I own one and couldn't be happier. If you go to the forums looking to see what issues there are, you will definitely come away feeling negative as well.
Even on this forum, I skimmed through (my tf700 is on the way) and did not see "real" issues, nothing like the weak wifi/no GPS fiasco of the prime which is "hardware". The i/o thing seems to only affect people in very certain situations and imho is overblown. Even then I think it is fixable.
When looking for issues, I look for hardware issues and limitations.
For example, from the reviews I have read, the A700 is just a A501 with 1080p screen. The problem is that it uses the same toned down version of the tegra3. Thus, reviews complained about how sluggish it sometimes is, especially for a tegra 3. That's something I don't hink they can ever totally "fix". If they overclock it more, the heat issue witll be worse.
I know the 7.7 screen AMOLED must look nice but what is the dpi on that thing. It should be slightly worse than nexus 7 and tf700. Not as bad as the 768p 10" inchers or ipad1/2 though. For me once I stared at the Nexus 7 screen with its dpi and web surfed on it, I could not go back to my tf300 anymore (as much as I loved it), and returned it to get an Infinity.
Guys I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I wanted to buy a 10" used tablet for sometime now and I'm confused again now. I was extremely close to getting a Transformer TF101 as it was affordable and fit my needs but I'm a little worried about getting a tablet with an older screen res. Now, I don't care for performance and software upgrades that much but I feel a screen resolution upgrade is sufficient for me to situp and take notice.
I've heard a lot about the newer phones having pointlessly high PPI numbers. But can anyone tell me if the extra PPI on the newer large 10" tablets - TF700T, A700, etc make a massive difference and justify its price? I'm basically looking for input from people who have used a 10" 1280x800 tablet and then upgraded to a 10" 1920x1200 tablet
Eg.
Iconia A500/A510>A700
TF101/TF201>TF700T
Nexus 7>Nexus 10
My main tablet usage will be movies, reading ebooks and occasional web browsing. I suppose it should also be mentioned that I can barely afford the A700 let alone the TF700, but if the difference is large enough then I will consider spending more and getting a FHD tablet.
During Christmas my grandmother got a tf300 and I got a tf700. I can tell you the screen on the tf700 seems much clearer then the screen on the tf300. As for the Nexus 7, It is full res like the Nexus 10 so you wont notice any difference there other than the big screen. I havent used any other tablets though.
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My mum owns a Galaxy Tab 2 (1280x800), and I own a TF700 (1920x1200).
The difference in clarity, crispness, contrast and sharpness is staggering. The G2 display looks horrendously blurry and vague next to the TF700 one.
I very much prefer the HD res over the lower one.
ShadowLea said:
My mum owns a Galaxy Tab 2 (1280x800), and I own a TF700 (1920x1200).
The difference in clarity, crispness, contrast and sharpness is staggering. The G2 display looks horrendously blurry and vague next to the TF700 one.
I very much prefer the HD res over the lower one.
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Agreed. Even with the lag issues, that screen easily makes it worth it. I havent used my grandma's tf700 much but you can tell the difference easily.
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Father-in-law has a Galaxy Tab with 1280something longest edge, and the TF700 screen's sharpness is so much higher that I've probaby been spoiled for life. I do a lot of (technical) e-book reading as well, and graphs and (photographic) illustrations are so much clearer on the 700 compared to the rest... I'll never go back voluntarily.
Nothing beats having someone peek over to see what you're reading and then opening up some forensic pathology e-book, prefereably somewhere in the midst of brain removal during autopsy. Sternum removal does the trick brilliantly, as well. I actually bookmarked some passages that most people seem to find utterly offensive.
Yes, I am *that* kind of guy. ROFLOL!
EDIT: Oh, and er... FullHD cinematics on the train commute... Gotta love that!
Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
RD274 said:
Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
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Have you considered the Kindle Fire HD ?
$269.00 USD really sharp screen 1920x1200 resolution at 254 ppi ...way better sound output than the Infinity.
It's 8.9 yet I don't see a huge difference in the screens when watching TV on it. (wife has one)
I had the Acer A700...loved it.
Returned it to Amazon after 30 days because overheating (normal use not modified) damaged it.
Thats OK said:
Have you considered the Kindle Fire HD ?
$269.00 USD really sharp screen 1920x1200 resolution at 254 ppi ...way better sound output than the Infinity.
It's 8.9 yet I don't see a huge difference in the screens when watching TV on it. (wife has one)
I had the Acer A700...loved it.
Returned it to Amazon after 30 days because overheating (normal use not modified) damaged it.
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Yeah I've looked at the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and Nook HD+, they have pretty good hardware specs but they both have some shortcoming or the other. For starters, both of these tabs are locked down. The Fire HD has slightly better dev support (CM10.1), but it costs more and doesn't have expandable storage. While the Nook has an SD card slot and is cheaper but doesn't have great dev support and also looks a bit retarded. I've been researching the A700 too. Heard about its issues and apparently most of its been fixed in its JB update.
I guess I'll just have to wait for FHD tablets to become more affordable or settle for a Nook/Fire HD
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Yeah I've looked at the Kindle Fire HD 8.9 and Nook HD+, they have pretty good hardware specs but they both have some shortcoming or the other. For starters, both of these tabs are locked down. The Fire HD has slightly better dev support (CM10.1), but it costs more and doesn't have expandable storage. While the Nook has an SD card slot and is cheaper but doesn't have great dev support and also looks a bit retarded. I've been researching the A700 too. Heard about its issues and apparently most of its been fixed in its JB update.
I guess I'll just have to wait for FHD tablets to become more affordable or settle for a Nook/Fire HD
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The only problem I see with those two would be that each uses its own app store, unless its been change, which will limit you on many apps. But by my guess with cyanogen it will install Play Store but I am not sure. I would research that. If you can get play store on it then it would be the one to go for. As you said though the downside it no expandable storage, but when a friend had a kindle I think the biggest downside was you were forced to use amazon app store. Plus storage can always be freed up and such, once you want a movie once you more then likely will not watch it again.
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RD274 said:
Thank you so much for the feedback guys. You'll be surprised how little information there is on the worthyness of FHD screens on 10" tablets. That said, do you guys really that clarity is worth it? My budget is a depressing 200$ and with that I was more than satisfied if I could get a TF101 but in a techno world like this, I'd hate to be left behind with a low res screen when newer tablets are out with more detailed screens.
Basically I can get used TF101s and Iconia A500s for 200$ easy (I don't mind Tegra 2). But if the detail is worth it, I'll try collecting 350$s+ and getting an Iconia A700 and if more were possible then maybe a TF700 or Nexus 10.
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If you're in a country that sells the Nexus 10, you should definitely have a look at that.
It's much cheaper than the infinity and has an even better screen.
It all depends on how important you think screen quality is.
I like super bright and crisp displays, but it you prefer absolute smoothness, you shouldn't look into the tf700, unless you're into rooting, unlocking, etc.
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The only problem I see with those two would be that each uses its own app store, unless its been change, which will limit you on many apps. But by my guess with cyanogen it will install Play Store but I am not sure. I would research that. If you can get play store on it then it would be the one to go for. As you said though the downside it no expandable storage, but when a friend had a kindle I think the biggest downside was you were forced to use amazon app store. Plus storage can always be freed up and such, once you want a movie once you more then likely will not watch it again.
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They're both fully locked down but they can be rooted and from there the Play Store can be installed solving the apps problem. But I would still like a vanilla Android experience and I don't see that happening until both these tablets have a stable CM10.1 which is still wip. No biggie about storage but I'd hate to be restricted to just 16gb especially with 4k around the corner.
omg I just realised what a horrible consumer I am. I have no money but yet want the best and most future proof product for myself hahaha.
adelancker said:
If you're in a country that sells the Nexus 10, you should definitely have a look at that.
It's much cheaper than the infinity and has an even better screen.
It all depends on how important you think screen quality is.
I like super bright and crisp displays, but it you prefer absolute smoothness, you shouldn't look into the tf700, unless you're into rooting, unlocking, etc.
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No, I'm from India and the Nexus 10 isn't available here and even if it were it would be at a premium thanks to our governments fantastic custom duties.
Hmmm I'm not that into screens and was all set to get a TF101 but now with HD screens being the new feature to go with tablets, I wanted to know if the detail between the screens was large enough between them for me to justify spending double for them (200$ for TF101 used, 400$ for TF700T used).
RD274 said:
They're both fully locked down but they can be rooted and from there the Play Store can be installed solving the apps problem. But I would still like a vanilla Android experience and I don't see that happening until both these tablets have a stable CM10.1 which is still wip. No biggie about storage but I'd hate to be restricted to just 16gb especially with 4k around the corner.
omg I just realised what a horrible consumer I am. I have no money but yet want the best and most future proof product for myself hahaha.
No, I'm from India and the Nexus 10 isn't available here and even if it were it would be at a premium thanks to our governments fantastic custom duties.
Hmmm I'm not that into screens and was all set to get a TF101 but now with HD screens being the new feature to go with tablets, I wanted to know if the detail between the screens was large enough between them for me to justify spending double for them (200$ for TF101 used, 400$ for TF700T used).
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And how about a TF201 used?
Primes have good displays but are now more than 1,5 years "old" so I guess you'll be able to find that as some sort of compromise.
Mind that you will need to unlock it, because if not, it's a slow device (just like the tf700 before unlocking )
^ And don't forget the WiFi and GPS issues on the TF201....
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And how about a TF201 used?
Primes have good displays but are now more than 1,5 years "old" so I guess you'll be able to find that as some sort of compromise.
Mind that you will need to unlock it, because if not, it's a slow device (just like the tf700 before unlocking )
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Well, that would be 50$ over the TF101 and all it has is more horsepower and battery life (which I do not care so much for). And as shadowlea said, it would come with Wifi & GPS problems in tow.
RD274 said:
Well, that would be 50$ over the TF101 and all it has is more horsepower and battery life (which I do not care so much for). And as shadowlea said, it would come with Wifi & GPS problems in tow.
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In all honesty, I have the 201 too, and unless you're really on the edge of your wifi range, it shouldn't be much of an issue.
As for GPS, who cares about gps on a tablet? I have mine turned off by default
true but I don't want the premium hardware that the Prime has.
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As for GPS, who cares about gps on a tablet? I have mine turned off by default
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I do. I use my tab to navigate across Europe.
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To be honest, I had (and recently sold) a TF101 + keyboard dock and when running the right OS version, it was an almost-perfect device! It was built well and performed well. I had more problems with my TF700 (of course, CleanROM helped there) than I did with my TF101.
TF201 had wifi and gps reception issues as has already been mentioned as well - something to consider. wifi is pretty integral to the normal use of these products - you don't want poor-performing wifi to reduce the overall performance and usability of the entire device.
Like I said, TF101 was a great device and you can get them cheap - I will still consider one...
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ShadowLea said:
I do. I use my tab to navigate across Europe.
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On your broom?
OK, second post heckling you. Sorry.
Begone, you demons!
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MartyHulskemper said:
On your broom?
OK, second post heckling you. Sorry.
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A broom! Well now!
Any self respecting witch uses a Dyson these days.
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