I'm running a stock rom but a blastoff kernel with root and cwm. I would like to go back to a stock kernel, except for root and cwm.
It there a flashable zip kernel which is stock+root+cwm that I can flash from recovery?
There is no such thing. Stock implies it's not touched, no edits, direct from the factory. In order to get root + cwm, it has to be modified and therefore is not stock anymore. Blastoff, Antox's, or any other GB kernel with root + cwm are all based off stock kernel source code with the the root and recovery added in, so what you're asking for you already have, and what you want is a contradiction.
getochkn said:
There is no such thing. Stock implies it's not touched, no edits, direct from the factory. In order to get root + cwm, it has to be modified and therefore is not stock anymore. Blastoff, Antox's, or any other GB kernel with root + cwm are all based off stock kernel source code with the the root and recovery added in, so what you're asking for you already have, and what you want is a contradiction.
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I presume that those 3 have other changes other than root +cwm. I'm looking for a kernel with only the root+cwm change.
kmandel said:
I presume that those 3 have other changes other than root +cwm. I'm looking for a kernel with only the root+cwm change.
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There is no such thing, I get what your saying. Most of our modded kernels don't have much difference beyond root+cwm, so there's no reason not to use them
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I see a lot of people say to do not use joeykrim one click root.
This is where I got my root from and is it ok to use this one? I like this one as it has the clockwork mod recovery as an option to root with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=808103
Or should I use this one?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388
ClockworkMod Recovery does not give you root. It gives you the ability to install ROMs, Kernels, and MODs.
If you're going to be using a rooted kernel, then just install ClockworkMod and then install your kernel.
If you just want root, I'd imagine both will be fine as the first link seems to just use the scripts from the 2nd link.
You shouldn't use any one click method if you plan on using a custom kernel. The kernel itself will have root, and can conflict with the once click method. Use your preferred method of flashing CWM, and flash your kernel. Root is not needed for CWM to work.
Well for some reason without rooting I can not install CWM. So should I root, install CWM and then uninstall root?
Thanks.
Edit: I think it worked this time around.
Edit 2: It did work.
Should you flash a kernel or a rom first?
I would go ROM first, then kernel, in the off chance that the ROM has a kernel included. You also don't need to reboot between flashes; flash within the same session.
I'm running stock EE4 but I'm getting ready to root and install one of the debloated ROMs. Currently I have a lot of apps, home screens and ADW Launcher set to my satisfaction and settings tweaked how I like them.
What are "best practices" for pre-rooting backup so all of these are retrievable? I've used Titanium Pro on my tablet so I'm conversant with that process but don't I have to be rooted first? Should I root the phone, install TP, back-up and THEN flash the ROM? Are there alternatives?
Thanks, I await advice.
adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
dragonstalker said:
adw settings you can backup by going to adw settings and doing a backup. Not sure if there is an unrooted version of titanium. Bad part is. You cannot just root if you are EE4 already. 1click and Gingerbreak do not work on EE4. You have to Odin flash a rooted rom. Sorry. Know thats not what you wanted to hear.
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Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
Thanks, fellas. If you're monitoring this thread, would you mind having a look over here?
keithce said:
Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
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OK SO, ROOTED means that the ROM has SU capability which is given to it by superuser app. Which allows you to have admin capabilities to change permissions to your filesystem.
The kernel allows you to overclock and undervolt your system while giving access to other HARDWARE specific functions.
Now please explain to me how a KERNEL can give you SuperUser permission to the filesystem if the KERNEL is a bridge between the Hardware and Software. Not saying your wrong, I just don't see how a Kernel can give you root access.
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Indeed, strictly technically speaking you are correct. However after the radio on the charge got updated to EE4 the usual 'back doors' or exploits to get root no longer worked.
Therefore the developers of the kernels for the charge built in the capability to auto root when it boots and hands off the hardware to the software.
If you read the posts for the kernels (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1104634) you would see that.
Cheers!
I stand corrected. It's right there in black and white. Auto-Root on Boot.
We learn something new everyday. Thanks for getting me brought up to speed.
keithce said:
Not true. You simply need to use Odin to flash a new kernel which is rooted (pbj by immuts for example). Once you've done this you'll also get CWM. You need to find an Odin package that only contains the kernel.
Once you've done that, with root you can use TiBackup like you've done before and then flash your ROM.
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Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
MrMakeIt said:
Is flashing a custom kernel, like PBJ, easily done using Odin? Do I use the same procedure when flashing CWM?
The latest version of CWM is not working--the button mapping is all screwed up. So I can't install any .zip files from my SD card -- I just keep seeing this f***ing blue banana.
So do I already need to have CWM installed to install a custom kernel? I'm waiting for someone to post CWM 4.0.0.8 until danalo is able to fix the faulty CWM currently linked for downloading
---Thank you for any help you may provide---
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Flashing anything in Odin uses an almost identical procedure unless you're trying to also upgrade the baseband/radio/modem.
Yes, you can flash a kernel using Odin. You just have to make sure that you download the right file to be flashed because it must be in specific format (*.md5).
Here is a link to jt's kernel from this post. Its a root kernel with CWM and also includes the lagfix (reformat to EXT4) that you should be able to flash using Odin.
That should give you a working (although limited functionality) version of CWM so that you can then install everything else and upgrade when a newer working version of CWM comes out.
Basically you just need to get CWM on there once as a starting point and then you can upgrade, update, and do whatever you want from there.
I'm gonna make this short and simple.
I've got a stock Infuse 4G on 2.3.6 and I have no idea how to root it.
To my knowledge, SOC does not work.
How do I go about rooting my phone?
This might have already been answered, but I can't find a thread concerning it. A link would be appreciated, if possible.
with a kernel switcheroo. you need a non secure kernel to root it, fortunately the Rogers 2.3.3 kernels do boot 2.3.6. flash an older custom kernel like the hellraiser kernel through heimdall, I suggest heimdall just because its easier to extract a kernel zimage from an update than to do that but then create a .tar.md5 archive of it. you can use the ever popular entropy DD kernel but if you go back to the 2.3.6 kernel then you will have to change the vold.fstab back to stock.
the kernel flash may root the phone depending on the kernel but its an older su binary and if you update it the kernel will overwrite it on next boot.
if you want to use a custom kernel permanently then use entropy DD because it has had the root script removed allowing updates to su. though it doesn't root it will allow root through adb so soc may work after you flash that kernel. then you can update the binary through superuser
if you are gonna use the stock 2.3.6 kernel then use an old build of entropy or an old hellraiser kernel. then boot up and flash the 2.3.6 kernel back to the phone through heimdall or sgs kernel flasher. (sgs Kernel flash has the ability to find the zimage inside of a .zip or. tar even in subfolders so you can actually put the leak .tar on the SD card and flash the kernel that way if you can't figure out heimdall)
Thanks for the quick response. I'll try it tomorrow since it looks like it may take a while...
andrewpottz said:
I'm gonna make this short and simple.
I've got a stock Infuse 4G on 2.3.6 and I have no idea how to root it.
To my knowledge, SOC does not work.
How do I go about rooting my phone?
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andrew,
did you bought the phone with stock 2.3.6 installed? what version is it? uckl2?
did you flash it with one of the unofficial GB leaks?
thanks.
ohh almost forgot about voodoo. the custom kernels convert the files system and wont allow you to flash the stock kernel, you'll get bootloops. if you don't intend to keep the custom kernel disable lagfix before you start by creating a folder with the path /sdcard/Voodoo/disable-lagfix
the V in Voodoo is capital. all other letters are lower case.
read the Rogers root thread for more details. its the same process laid out for rogers since that thread was written before soc worked on anything above 2.3.2. actually that kernel will also work on 2.3.6 for att.
Dani897 said:
ohh almost forgot about voodoo. the custom kernels convert the files system and wont allow you to flash the stock kernel, you'll get bootloops. if you don't intend to keep the custom kernel disable lagfix before you start by creating a folder with the path /sdcard/Voodoo/disable-lagfix
the V in Voodoo is capital. all other letters are lower case.
read the Rogers root thread for more details. its the same process laid out for rogers since that thread was written before soc worked on anything above 2.3.2. actually that kernel will also work on 2.3.6 for att.
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I haven't tried this yet, Dani. Would it be possible for him to use heimdall one click defuse kernel that adam made to obtain red recovery then flash the super user fix to install SU?
andrewpottz said:
I've got a stock Infuse 4G on 2.3.6 and I have no idea how to root it.
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No you don't... If you're on stock you're on 2.2.x (AT&T) or 2.3.3 (Rogers).
AT&T hasn't released Gingerbread for the Infuse yet.
qkster said:
I haven't tried this yet, Dani. Would it be possible for him to use heimdall one click defuse kernel that adam made to obtain red recovery then flash the super user fix to install SU?
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yes but if he is already on gingerbread he needs a backup gingerbread kernel, if he uses cwm for the gb kernel it must already be on the SD card.
so it would be
1. download cwm flashable gb kernel to the SD card
2. download heimdall defuse kernel oneclick to PC and install drivers, I haven't done this on windows in a while but the Samsung drivers should work but heimdall also has there own system to recognize the device. forgot what its called....
3 run heimdall from run in windows or terminal in other os and put phone in download mode and connect the data cable
4. flash defuse kernel
5. boot into recovery with 3button. phone wont boot gb on froyo kernel but recovery works.
6. flash root
7.flash gb kernel
8. reboot
9. win
I used to use the mismatched kernels on the captivate. if nothing else was working I'd go back to stock 2.1, flash a froyo kernel with cwm and then flash a froyo or gb rom. 3 easy steps.
Rooting 2.3.6
Simply use the Heimdall Defuse Kernel to flash red cwm then flash the rooted version of the ROM Or a custom rom. it pre-roots your phone for you just click flash
Entropy512 said:
No you don't... If you're on stock you're on 2.2.x (AT&T) or 2.3.3 (Rogers).
AT&T hasn't released Gingerbread for the Infuse yet.
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that's what I was wondering, Entropy.
I was thinking he meant to say he had installed one of the leaks or bought the phone with one of the later leaks like uckl2, where SOC doesn't work
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that's what I was wondering, Entropy.
I was thinking he meant to say he had installed one of the leaks or bought the phone with one of the later leaks like uckl2, where SOC doesn't work
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Which isn't stock...
qkster said:
that's what I was wondering, Entropy.
I was thinking he meant to say he had installed one of the leaks or bought the phone with one of the later leaks like uckl2, where SOC doesn't work
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Yeah he clearly stated he was on 2.3.6 STOCK infuse 4g and wanted to know how to ROOT IT. Seems like its not stock to me
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I need to get back to stock kernel for tf101.
Currently i'm running 8.5.6.13-root-cwm and clemsyn kernel version 22
and i'm looking to move to a stock .19(root+cwm) then move on to ICS using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438433
where can i find the stock kernel i need and what is necessary to install it?
have a look here:
http://www.xdafileserver.nl/index.php?dir=ASUS/Asus+Transformer+(TF101)/ROMS/
especially in folder "stock rom by gee one"
Thank you, This will be very helpful!
This is still very helpful but i can only see that it has the ICS roms. looking for the HC rom that includes stock kernel, or stock kernel stand alone if either exists
Finky said:
I need to get back to stock kernel for tf101.
Currently i'm running 8.5.6.13-root-cwm and clemsyn kernel version 22
and i'm looking to move to a stock .19(root+cwm) then move on to ICS using:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438433
where can i find the stock kernel i need and what is necessary to install it?
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Hi Finky,
because you have CWM already installed, I think you can just flash an ICS stock rom or custom rom.
for US read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622333
for ww read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627301
Make sure you read the threats because .21 has root problems, but make sure you install OTA root keeper.....in the developers forum are also CWM version of .17 that is rootable....read well before starting.
goodluck....
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Hi Finky,
because you have CWM already installed, I think you can just flash an ICS stock rom or custom rom.
for US read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622333
for ww read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1627301
Make sure you read the threats because .21 has root problems, but make sure you install OTA root keeper.....in the developers forum are also CWM version of .17 that is rootable....read well before starting.
goodluck....
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So if i were to flash an ICS rom or HC rom, it will overwrite kernel and set it back to stock kernel?
Also i have made some system apk changes awhile back, would those be an issue?
Finky,
I just read the two threads, and it seems that every one with a custom kernel has problems. So, seems you just have to follow the thread that you put in your 1st post to make sure you get ride of your custom kernel.
Or, you can cwm flash the revolver rom (has the standard kernel of ICS inside) or one of the other custom roms (I use Revolver). that way you have ICS although it is custom. maybe that is some thing for you to do....or you want asus rom?
Im on synergy v1.3 and if i want to go back to stock do i only flash the stock rom in pda??? on the android development section for this phone they have a direct download and a kernel download ..will i need to flash the kernel download too? im not using a custom kernel(i dont think synergy has one yet). There is nothing wrong with my phone but just in case something goes wrong i need to know what to do.
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Im on synergy v1.3 and if i want to go back to stock do i only flash the stock rom in pda??? on the android development section for this phone they have a direct download and a kernel download ..will i need to flash the kernel download too? im not using a custom kernel(i dont think synergy has one yet). There is nothing wrong with my phone but just in case something goes wrong i need to know what to do.
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i hope someone answers this. i posted something similar and was directed here. maybe it will help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1755386
THE SKATER DUDE said:
Im on synergy v1.3 and if i want to go back to stock do i only flash the stock rom in pda??? on the android development section for this phone they have a direct download and a kernel download ..will i need to flash the kernel download too? im not using a custom kernel(i dont think synergy has one yet). There is nothing wrong with my phone but just in case something goes wrong i need to know what to do.
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Yes, all you need to do is download the stock verizon rom for this phone onto your computer and Odin back to stock using PDA. Only use the PDA section in Odin. If you didn't change kernels then you don't need to flash the kernel, because the kernel is already the stock one. You can use custom kernels on Synergy. I'm using a custom kernel on synergy 1.3. What I did was downloaded the verizon ez recovery app from the play store, give it root permissions when you open it. Included in that ex recovery is a few different recoveries including CWM and TWRP and invisibleks v2 kernel. You can flash a kernel using that program. You simply just select the kernel and hit flash and then reboot recovery. The only downside is that when you flash a kernel you lose your recovery. But since you have the easy recovery, you just flash a recovery and you'll get a recovery back. Its really simple and awesome! I'm using Imoseyons Lean kernel v12 and it allows over clocking to 1.9! And under locking as well. I'm getting phenomenal battery life.
Current~Samsung Galaxy S3 SynergyRom 1.3 & Imo's Lean Kernel v12 Oc'd @ 1.9mhz
~Acer Iconia A500 Stock
Past~Droid X Gummy ICS 1.2
http://www.creadevandroid.com/resto...factory-settings-unbrick-unroot-verizon-cdma/
This is what I used to return my phones under big red's warranty
kabro91 said:
http://www.creadevandroid.com/resto...factory-settings-unbrick-unroot-verizon-cdma/
This is what I used to return my phones under big red's warranty
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u sir are awesome
One more option in case you are still looking. Be sure tomflashnthe kernel 1st:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...5-guide-restore-back-clean-factory-stock.html
95talondsm said:
Yes, all you need to do is download the stock verizon rom for this phone onto your computer and Odin back to stock using PDA. Only use the PDA section in Odin. If you didn't change kernels then you don't need to flash the kernel, because the kernel is already the stock one. You can use custom kernels on Synergy. I'm using a custom kernel on synergy 1.3. What I did was downloaded the verizon ez recovery app from the play store, give it root permissions when you open it. Included in that ex recovery is a few different recoveries including CWM and TWRP and invisibleks v2 kernel. You can flash a kernel using that program. You simply just select the kernel and hit flash and then reboot recovery. The only downside is that when you flash a kernel you lose your recovery. But since you have the easy recovery, you just flash a recovery and you'll get a recovery back. Its really simple and awesome! I'm using Imoseyons Lean kernel v12 and it allows over clocking to 1.9! And under locking as well. I'm getting phenomenal battery life.
Current~Samsung Galaxy S3 SynergyRom 1.3 & Imo's Lean Kernel v12 Oc'd @ 1.9mhz
~Acer Iconia A500 Stock
Past~Droid X Gummy ICS 1.2
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It shouldn't matter if you have a flashed a custom Kernel. Just Odin the stock ROM
Also if you want to go completely back I believe you will also need to flash the stock recovery and possible the flash counter.