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Project: OpenAndroid aka Open Android Alliance

All i want in this thread is only if you are interested in developing/themeing/ect. for our Open Android Alliance Project. Post requiring info needed.
Open-Android-Alliance Create a fully open source Android OS
The new site is officially up: Home of Open Android Alliance register now everyone
As you all are probably aware Cyanogen has been sent a Cease and Desist order.
The purpose here comes from an idea of Sr. member Doooshty where we should
use this opportunity to get everyone come together and create alternatives to Google'
apps we are calling on anyone with experience who is up to the challenge to set this
straight and out "Android" Google.
People we are rebuilding android as we see fit if you want to Frankenstein it to hell open another
thread... OPEN SOURCE ALL THE WAY if i can not get the source one way or another it is not being used
This however is not about Getting back at google or who was in the wrong in the C&D
This is solely a project about distributing a *Flavor* of android that is fully customizeable
and does not rely on google or other copyrights...
As of now the goal is a Rom (No google at all) that we can make calls from and text
I would like all apps to be developed in house so it is easy to get in contact with the developer if we
want to make any changes or get intouch with the origional developer to make sure they approve.
All apps to be open source not just free and require writtin permission from origional developer giving permission to edit (mainly visually)
THIS IS ALL EXPERIMENTAL AT THIS TIME
We are going to need several things from devs such as:
1. New app store
slideme.org
anddevstore (cant find exact link)
various other new open source projects in process of being developed
Obsidiandesire is looking into the android store
2. New email system
Dev needed
3. New Navigation
Dev needed
4. New IM client
Dev needed
5. YouTube
Dev needed
Talk of porting a .flv player but unclear about content copyright
6. Setup Wizard
(App developers is it possible to create a simple app that is basicly
a drop down with all major carriers APN settings that will
automaticly set at first boot?)
irrenhaus discovered it is a only database change. Any app developers
want to look into this with him?
7. Sync Alternative
Dev needed
8. Browser
(steel, default, opera)
Dev needed
I would like to get permission before using them if possible.
9. Making apps talk to each other.
Dev needed
10. Space for development files.
Anyone?
we Should open one of them google project pages jk
11. We need a centeral "stock" theme perhaps we can get some prototypes drawn up. this is so the visual
designers have something they can go against so every app has a sort of "flow" to it and color schemes are
not changing drastically through every app. (this can be changed later)
90% of useful apps come from this website in some way so i believe along with Doooshty and Cyanogen
that this can be accomplished...
CALLING ALL DEVS!!!! If you are interested in taking android away from the chains
of the man post here or send me a private message.
Can anyone create a Rom with no google what so ever to start with so we can see where
we need to go from there?
This is coming along nicely (other then the occasional "This is dumb blah blah blah") I want to thank everyone for taking an interest in this.
Now while other ways may work like loop holes and loading close source apps on the user end at this point it will require one of 2 things either 1. Each developer does it thier own way (which is perfectly fine). or 2 automatically import the closed source apps in via script (which im sure could be painless in itself) while this is easy the visual customization would be alot less user friendly AFAIK such as theming. Say you got that nice new manup theme everything just flows together but u open up a stock browser/email/whatever it really throws off the experiance I may be completely wrong but this is what I think.
Dont get me wrong i love google but id rather not have them stopping development right as we got something new rolling.
Stop Talk. Do Work.

Just to save you some time, Google Maps is already freely available from the Android Market:
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.google.android.apps.maps
I don't know about the other apps though...

Alright
Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.

jjcd51590 said:
Alright that's good but if there is no market it wont be easily updated i would think without other software.
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Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).

F*** it who need those crappy Apps anyways. Just replace them with some that actually work better!

Yea but...
cacahahacaca said:
Well, as far as I understand (and this is TommyPickles' theory) Google was pissed off because Cyanogen included a pre-release version of the new Android Market from Donut.
If that's the case, there would be nothing to prevent him from including the current Cupcake Market (or so I would hope).
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That could be the case, however what is stopping them from doing it again we need to break the chains here.

i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?

Freedomcaller said:
i dont know if you need it or not but i working on a music player as a project for my projects class in school, maybe this can help in some way?
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Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there

Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more

http://slideme.org/ looks like the best replacement for Market.
My concern is with the sync code. You can build the providers from AOSP, but you can't actually sync without doing the registration process, which requires the closed-source SetupWizard and Checkin applications.

jjcd51590 said:
Hey Every little bit helps im sure we can run it through some test and if we get an alternative store released we can put your project in there
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edit: **** my distypesia kicked in...
cool it probably wont be done for a bunch of months tho, as its not due till the end of the simester and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O

lol
Freedomcaller said:
cool it probably wont be dont for a bunch on months tho, as its not due till the end of the siemster and the android API has me totaly confused. but it has to get done otherwise i fail the class :-O
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Well keep us updated no telling how long this is going to take :/
Well any ideas on the Setup or Check in apps what are thier purpose cant we just ditch them and use other methods of syncing?

nephron said:
Meebo IM is free and is much better then the google im app. It has Gtalk, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Facebook Chat, MySpace chat and more
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eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...

cacahahacaca said:
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.

testing567 said:
Gmail is easy enough to replace, and the other two you mentioned are both open source, so their safe.
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Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?

cacahahacaca said:
eBuddy is supposed to be very good as well.
What would *really* suck is if they force him to remove the Calendar, Gmail, and the Browser...
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the browser sucked compared to steel browser anyway

jjcd51590 said:
Alright that's good to hear but the main one now is going to be the set up... think we could implement the hero one? I am not sure if that's htc property or Google property any info on this?
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We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.

I vote for replacing the browser with steel
and email app with k9-mail.
We need also to patch the installer to be able to install apps to system.

True True
testing567 said:
We should try to not rely on the Hero roms for anything because the entire thing is considered closed source. The only difference is HTC hasn't complained yet. I'm guessing it will hit the fan with HTC the second a hero rom is ported to a non HTC device.
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Yeah your right about that how would a non-Google experience android phone work then anyone know? and i was just throwing ideas around lol thanks for clearing that up

i went to the google site http://productideas.appspot.com/ and left the idea leave him the hell alone or hire him

[Q] Noob Here. Will Paypal $20 For Help Getting Started Before 11AM CST

I bought a Samsung Infuse 4G from Wal-Mart a couple weeks ago. There's an annoying Facebook pop-up that keeps coming up asking me to accept their terms of agreement but I do not use any Facebook apps. I went into manage applications and saw a facebook app that I did not uninstall. The only extra apps I have installed on my phone were skype, tango, vibrer and two voice recording apps that sucked so bad I uninstalled them.
I am not new to any kind of coding, just new to android. I am on a limited time schedule because I have work at noon and it's already 9:28AM. I would like to get my phone rooted before I start that's why I'm offering to paypal for help since I won't be able to read all these guides in time. I am using a Windows 7 64-Bit PC. From what short research I was able to do, I have come to this conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28002718&postcount=8
^^^That's what I think I should do, but I'm not sure.
Option C looks cool but it looks like I might lose my contacts.
My objectives before I go to work.
1. Root phone so I can uninstall that annoying app.
2. Keep my contacts. I don't want to lose them.
3. Be able to use my phone's tethering ability without having to pay AT&T extra for that.
4. Improve battery-life and performance.
5. Be able to use custom apps or modified apps of existing apps...

8thos said:
I bought a Samsung Infuse 4G from Wal-Mart a couple weeks ago. There's an annoying Facebook pop-up that keeps coming up asking me to accept their terms of agreement but I do not use any Facebook apps. I went into manage applications and saw a facebook app that I did not uninstall. The only extra apps I have installed on my phone were skype, tango, vibrer and two voice recording apps that sucked so bad I uninstalled them.
I am not new to any kind of coding, just new to android. I am on a limited time schedule because I have work at noon and it's already 9:28AM. I would like to get my phone rooted before I start that's why I'm offering to paypal for help since I won't be able to read all these guides in time. I am using a Windows 7 64-Bit PC. From what short research I was able to do, I have come to this conclusion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28002718&postcount=8
^^^That's what I think I should do, but I'm not sure.
Option C looks cool but it looks like I might lose my contacts.
My objectives before I go to work.
1. Root phone so I can uninstall that annoying app.
2. Keep my contacts. I don't want to lose them.
3. Be able to use my phone's tethering ability without having to pay AT&T extra for that.
4. Improve battery-life and performance.
5. Be able to use custom apps or modified apps of existing apps...
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Keep your $$$, it would be a great learning experiance for you XDA is not about making $$$ or looking for a fast fix.... is for someone who wants to learn and make their growth in the learning process....but it may take more time...
> if you want to keep your contacts you can export them to your sd card, options within the contacts. but google keeps them on the sync when you log into google it will populate your contacts to your phone automaticaly.
1. Root phone so I can uninstall that annoying app.
you can one click or odin if you want to keep stock or even load a custom ROM some options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629079
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27286083#post27286083
2. Keep my contacts. I don't want to lose them.
as meantioned above export within contacts options or let google do it for you.
3. Be able to use my phone's tethering ability without having to pay AT&T extra for that.
I dont use this so no anwser for you...
4. Improve battery-life and performance.
keeping it stock but go with a load that is Rooted, Deodexed, Busybox, Zipaligned. Or load a custom ROM, see my signature for the ISET page for that listing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508619
All you need for the Infuse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
5. Be able to use custom apps or modified apps of existing apps.
Need root for this, not all require to be rooted but it helps. Again you can load with one click and put CWM then load a custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
Also again all the Roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
Like I started out XDA is about learning not for the quick fix, and being new give yourself time to accomplish what you want to...and no $$ is asked from anyone that worth their weight. But as you see fit you can donate to anyone. But as I said keep your $$ learn.
Here is some good reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700416

bigjoe2675 said:
Keep your $$$, it would be a great learning experiance for you XDA is not about making $$$ or looking for a fast fix.... is for someone who wants to learn and make their growth in the learning process....but it may take more time...
> if you want to keep your contacts you can export them to your sd card, options within the contacts. but google keeps them on the sync when you log into google it will populate your contacts to your phone automaticaly.
1. Root phone so I can uninstall that annoying app.
you can one click or odin if you want to keep stock or even load a custom ROM some options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1629079
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27286083#post27286083
2. Keep my contacts. I don't want to lose them.
as meantioned above export within contacts options or let google do it for you.
3. Be able to use my phone's tethering ability without having to pay AT&T extra for that.
I dont use this so no anwser for you...
4. Improve battery-life and performance.
keeping it stock but go with a load that is Rooted, Deodexed, Busybox, Zipaligned. Or load a custom ROM, see my signature for the ISET page for that listing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508619
All you need for the Infuse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
5. Be able to use custom apps or modified apps of existing apps.
Need root for this, not all require to be rooted but it helps. Again you can load with one click and put CWM then load a custom ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1524081
Also again all the Roms:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1610374
Like I started out XDA is about learning not for the quick fix, and being new give yourself time to accomplish what you want to...and no $$ is asked from anyone that worth their weight. But as you see fit you can donate to anyone. But as I said keep your $$ learn.
Here is some good reading:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700416
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Thanks! Unfortunately I ran out of time so I will have to check this out when I get off work. I really appreciate the help.

8thos said:
Thanks! Unfortunately I ran out of time so I will have to check this out when I get off work. I really appreciate the help.
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Welcome to the community... Your going to be surprised finding out how friendly and willing to help the people are around here so do not hesitate to ask for help.. All we ask is you try to use the search future before asking.

Just wanted to let you know I chose option c
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613523
Everything works fine and I'm not interested in doing anything more to it.
All the roms I saw had some kind of drawback or something was not working right from what I read. It's a shame too cause I wanted to try out Ice Cream Sandwhich.
Oh yeah Shelley from www.bbsmiley.com hooked me up with a list of some cool apps: https://plus.google.com/102677509828572193138/posts/NFhjkRV3VoU
I haven't actually seen a list of good apps on here yet. I just gotta search the forum's harder.

8thos said:
Just wanted to let you know I chose option c
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1613523
Everything works fine and I'm not interested in doing anything more to it.
All the roms I saw had some kind of drawback or something was not working right from what I read. It's a shame too cause I wanted to try out Ice Cream Sandwhich.
Oh yeah Shelley from www.bbsmiley.com hooked me up with a list of some cool apps: https://plus.google.com/102677509828572193138/posts/NFhjkRV3VoU
I haven't actually seen a list of good apps on here yet. I just gotta search the forum's harder.
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Glad it worked out for and you save some $$$ and learn a few things...
and that is totally your call on doing anything more, nothing wrong with that....

hide SMS and Contacts for Windows Phone 7

Hello Team,
I always been a WM user, and finally got a hold of a windows 7 phone, did the required mods. i noticed i couldnt find a program like magic call which used to screen un wanted numbers and sms this tool was usefull and purchased.
I'm assuming there isnt a program close enough or the same for windows 7 phone, overall i would like to bar and hide certain numbers and SMS's maybe emails ( i guess im pushing it).
i noticed an andriod app called vault does excatly what i require. im assuming im not the only person after this app?
is there such an app paid or free?
thank you for your time.

The public APIs don't allow it. Some OEMs (specifically, Samsung) have used their extra control over the ROM image (specifically, the ability to add their own drivers) to implement a call blocking function, and I believe some custom ROMs also incorporate this. Additionally, there are people looking into doing it using unofficial APIs in a way that it can be used on stock ROMs, but so far no such luck.

Thank you for the return message; even with modified ROMS this feature is not available?
IF so which rom would allow this feature? overall i have a HTC Trophy which has been loaded with a modded rom.
It may look like i'll have to get a hold of the Andriod phone for now.
thank you in advance.

I don't use custom ROMs; I hack the stock ROMs (and yes, call blocking is one feature I'm working on). Read the feature lists of the various custom ROMs, looking in particular for "call blocking" or "Samsung gen2 drivers".

I'll have a look thanks, but noticed people are having problems running the Samsung app.

[Q] Tricking the system

Hello!
I am new to rooting my galaxy S3 device and I want to start off by saying thanks to all the developers that make owning a smart phone exciting again. I have an issue that I'm sure has been resolved previously but I have had no luck searching through the forums. I have a U.S. Cellular galaxy S3 SCH-R530U and I use my phoen for work applications. By this I mean that I have my corporate email and calendar syncing, which initially required me to give the application that controls the corporate sync pretty much 100% access to my phone.
When I first rooted, the application seemed confused and seemed to have issues which allowed me to continue using the email even though the company (they use an app called air watch) sent me an email about my device being non-compliant. There was recently an update for that software that would not let me continue until I updated. Longer story short, I used Triangle Away to try and fool the system that it was the original settings.
Is there a program that has been developed that will help me fool the program into thinking that my device is compliant?

Asking for opinion regarding customizing tablet for nursing staff

Hi,
I'm currently programming an app for a hospital as a bachelorsproject. Now I've discussed with my mentor about the fact we want the devices to be used only as pupose for the app I'm making, apps we preinstall and future apps that are made for the personel thats using them.
Currently I'm working with a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2016) running android 6.0.1 without it being rooted.
So what do you guys suggest with this I've done some reading along how to root whats possible and seen some guides for my device on how to root it.
What I want to do is actually have like a stock android so no samsung bloatware and microsoft apps etc, even chrome doesn't need to be installed as they don't need acces to browsing. And then pre install specific apps like my app, the one from the hospital itself, future apps and others we specifically need.
Also I'm new to android in general so can I create like a nurse user, and a IT-desk user so the IT desk user can log on the tablet and install an app, while the nurse doesn't even have acces to settings maybe.
Would love to hear what you guys think along what to do, and maybe some general steps like root it, flash a stock rom, create your (2)users, and install apps.

Tommyboy500 said:
Hi,
I'm currently programming an app for a hospital as a bachelorsproject. Now I've discussed with my mentor about the fact we want the devices to be used only as pupose for the app I'm making, apps we preinstall and future apps that are made for the personel thats using them.
Currently I'm working with a Galaxy Tab A 10.1 (2016) running android 6.0.1 without it being rooted.
So what do you guys suggest with this I've done some reading along how to root whats possible and seen some guides for my device on how to root it.
What I want to do is actually have like a stock android so no samsung bloatware and microsoft apps etc, even chrome doesn't need to be installed as they don't need acces to browsing. And then pre install specific apps like my app, the one from the hospital itself, future apps and others we specifically need.
Also I'm new to android in general so can I create like a nurse user, and a IT-desk user so the IT desk user can log on the tablet and install an app, while the nurse doesn't even have acces to settings maybe.
Would love to hear what you guys think along what to do, and maybe some general steps like root it, flash a stock rom, create your (2)users, and install apps.
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You could build an AOSP ROM for that model number with only the apps and features you choose, it would require AOSP source code and your stock source code.
Then, yes, android natively supports setting up user profiles, with root access you can set it so that the "nurse user" profile can only use the device and an "admin user" would have exclusive permissions to make whatever changes are needed. You can set it so that the "nurse user" would not be able to install new apps, wouldn't be able to browse the web or even set it so they could browse if needed but would be limited in what they can access on the web, and you'd be able to set it so they would be locked out of all settings.
What you want is very possible, the most difficult part would be compiling the ROM if you go that route, you may not need or want to though because with root, you can strip down the existing stock firmware to remove the extras you don't want or need.
Mind you, there would be some details and specifics to deal with that would require trial and error along the way, obviously.