I have the infinity since three days now. I have the 64Gb version that came with the keyboard dock, it appeared the be a prime dock also.
Now after a couple of days it seems to have a few issues. First of all, automatic brightness is very buggy. Either it's way too dark, or way too bright. Also, moving from dark room to brighter room doesn't change brightness. I have to set it manually all the time.
Second and more important, i have trouble with the charging. when both tablet and dock are fully charged, and i use the tablet seperate for a while, the moment i plug it back into the dock it starts to charge through the docks battery. However it doesn't charge untill 100 percent, it stops charging at far example 78 percent, while i still have 30 percent remaining in the dock. No matter how much i take it out of the dock en plug it back in it wont charge anymore. Untill i restart the tablet and then it charges again.
Also when both tablet and dock are fully charged and i keep them docked, it starts using the tablets battery and not the dock's like it should be. So my dockremains at 100 percent while my tablet depletes.... very strange. I also have my old TF101 so i know how it should work.
Any body also having this strange behavior?
Will the charging is normal for safety measures it happend on my tf300 and prime as well, and believe it or not I returned them both and ordered an infinity
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glenner05 said:
I have the infinity since three days now. I have the 64Gb version that came with the keyboard dock, it appeared the be a prime dock also.
Now after a couple of days it seems to have a few issues. First of all, automatic brightness is very buggy. Either it's way too dark, or way too bright. Also, moving from dark room to brighter room doesn't change brightness. I have to set it manually all the time.
Second and more important, i have trouble with the charging. when both tablet and dock are fully charged, and i use the tablet seperate for a while, the moment i plug it back into the dock it starts to charge through the docks battery. However it doesn't charge untill 100 percent, it stops charging at far example 78 percent, while i still have 30 percent remaining in the dock. No matter how much i take it out of the dock en plug it back in it wont charge anymore. Untill i restart the tablet and then it charges again.
Also when both tablet and dock are fully charged and i keep them docked, it starts using the tablets battery and not the dock's like it should be. So my dockremains at 100 percent while my tablet depletes.... very strange. I also have my old TF101 so i know how it should work.
Any body also having this strange behavior?
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Same problems for me. I contacted Asus tech support regarding auto brightness today, they said it's the same with all Infinity tablets and no solution yet. Regarding charging bugs - I just noticed them today.
Also it's extremely annoying that while downloading something bigger tablet becomes almost totally unusable and unresponsive - I think that's I/O problem someone already mentioned in other threads.
ray3andrei said:
Will the charging is normal for safety measures it happend on my tf300 and prime as well, and believe it or not I returned them both and ordered an infinity
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so you think it's normal that my tablet depletes while it's in it's fully charged dock? what do you mean by safety measures? maybe it's because the new battery's need a few charging cycles?
i just restarted it, and now it does charge. i will let it fully charge through my dock and will see if it continues to use keyboard battery when it's full. the dock is supposed to keep the tablet as full as possible untill empty, then tablets battery should be used...
giedriusc said:
Same problems for me. I contacted Asus tech support regarding auto brightness today, they said it's the same with all Infinity tablets and no solution yet. Regarding charging bugs - I just noticed them today.
Also it's extremely annoying that while downloading something bigger tablet becomes almost totally unusable and unresponsive - I think that's I/O problem someone already mentioned in other threads.
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as for the io problems, i've had them too. But now i rooted my infinity and used another io scheduler and now it's much better and responsive. you should check out these threads, requires root ofcourse:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1706588
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714253
its originally for prime but it works also for infinity
edit: it just happened again, at 87% tablet stopped charging, with 73% remaining in the dock. and now tablet slowly depleting. They were docked all the time. only when connected to wall charger, they both charge to 100%
Hi @all,
can someone confirm the following?
I get the feeling that the tf700 has some kind of secondary auto-brightness!
I've turned off the auto-brightness and set it to ~50%, IPS+ off.
When I switch from a browser with a blank page to the homescreen, I can see that the brightness gets adjusted a little in very small steps.
You can see it with the default wallpaper (the one with the tree on the hill)
Switching back to that blank page shows these adjustments too!
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dskw said:
Hi @all,
can someone confirm the following?
I get the feeling that the tf700 has some kind of secondary auto-brightness!
I've turned off the auto-brightness and set it to ~50%, IPS+ off.
When I switch from a browser with a blank page to the homescreen, I can see that the brightness gets adjusted a little in very small steps.
You can see it with the default wallpaper (the one with the tree on the hill)
Switching back to that blank page shows these adjustments too!
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sounds like dynamic contrast to me. some lcd tv do that also. more backlight when a lot of whites in the screen, less backlight when there is more darker colors to be shown...
glenner05 said:
sounds like dynamic contrast to me. some lcd tv do that also. more backlight when a lot of whites in the screen, less backlight when there is more darker colors to be shown...
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+1, it's dynamic contrast, I can see it too on my Infinity with auto-brightness off.
My TF700 has these small adaptations in brightness as well. I do think they help visibility a bit.
glenner05 said:
so you think it's normal that my tablet depletes while it's in it's fully charged dock? what do you mean by safety measures? maybe it's because the new battery's need a few charging cycles?
i just restarted it, and now it does charge. i will let it fully charge through my dock and will see if it continues to use keyboard battery when it's full. the dock is supposed to keep the tablet as full as possible untill empty, then tablets battery should be used...
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Well I just got mine and still doesn't charge fully from the dock but I'm fine with that
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With regards to the dock, its designed to alternate. So it'll deplete a bit from the tablet, and then from the dock, and then from the tablet and so on until the dock is out. At least, that's how the Prime and TF300 were set up.
Just got mine. Feels like auto brightness is working like it should.
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Jotokun said:
With regards to the dock, its designed to alternate. So it'll deplete a bit from the tablet, and then from the dock, and then from the tablet and so on until the dock is out. At least, that's how the Prime and TF300 were set up.
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On my TF700, the dock is depleted first (I'm currently down to 15% (dock) and 72% (main). I have indeed heard before that previously the design was to let them deplete more or less evenly, but I'd wager they have changed that behavior to enable the tablet to be decoupled and have the best sht at having a full (or at least mostly charged) battery. I think that's a logical setup and I think I prefer it this way. With the risk of carrying this slightly off-topic: how were your experiences with the previous setup?
Suddenly i also got the screen brightness problem. Was doing fine the first two days.
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MartyHulskemper said:
On my TF700, the dock is depleted first (I'm currently down to 15% (dock) and 72% (main). I have indeed heard before that previously the design was to let them deplete more or less evenly, but I'd wager they have changed that behavior to enable the tablet to be decoupled and have the best sht at having a full (or at least mostly charged) battery. I think that's a logical setup and I think I prefer it this way. With the risk of carrying this slightly off-topic: how were your experiences with the previous setup?
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you're talking about previous setup. The TF700 is brand new? Which firmware do you have on your tablet. Mine is alternating, but i would much prefer the other way, which depletes the dock first. I'm running 9.4.5.21 and dock firmware 0207.
I don't own any other Asus tablets, so I have no idea what "the norm" is, but IMHO it makes much more sense to use the dock as the primary source of power (similar to plugging it into an A/C adaptor) first, and only switch to the tablet's battery when the dock's is depleted. This way if you use the tablet+dock for four hours and then take the tablet out of the dock to use independantly, it will still have a full charge.
The only thing I can think of as to a reason why it would try to use both simultaneously (albeit alternating), is if the tablet wasn't able to power the dock and the dock itself needed power for both itself and any accessories plugged into USB ports, etc. If that's the case, then if your dock ran out of juice, your tablet wouldn't be able to use it anymore, making the battery life only ~4-5 hours before you had to remove it.
MartyHulskemper said:
On my TF700, the dock is depleted first (I'm currently down to 15% (dock) and 72% (main). I have indeed heard before that previously the design was to let them deplete more or less evenly, but I'd wager they have changed that behavior to enable the tablet to be decoupled and have the best sht at having a full (or at least mostly charged) battery. I think that's a logical setup and I think I prefer it this way. With the risk of carrying this slightly off-topic: how were your experiences with the previous setup?
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I've never actually owned a Prime or TF300, I just remember reading that in a review for the Prime. Sorry about the confusion. Having it fully drain the dock and then the tablet does sound like a better solution.
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I've never actually owned a Prime or TF300, I just remember reading that in a review for the Prime. Sorry about the confusion. Having it fully drain the dock and then the tablet does sound like a better solution.
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And so it works on the original transformer, first dock, then tablet, much better method. I still dont understand why they changed it for the other tablets...
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glenner05 said:
And so it works on the original transformer, first dock, then tablet, much better method. I still dont understand why they changed it for the other tablets...
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Well just wait for someone to figure out how to fix that. I'm sure it's just a little software that can be changed on the tablet or dock.
glenner05 said:
you're talking about previous setup. The TF700 is brand new? Which firmware do you have on your tablet. Mine is alternating, but i would much prefer the other way, which depletes the dock first. I'm running 9.4.5.21 and dock firmware 0207.
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I have the same firmware versions as you but it depletes my dock battery before tablet. Currently dock 43%, Tablet 80%. As I type this it changed to dock 43%, tablet 78% so I guess it doesn't exclusively deplete the dock first which makes sense too.
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Hey guys how does the charging with the dock happen? I'm asking cause I always wondered what it was like.
Does it just drain the keyboard of battery first (While plugged in, dock will always be supplying power first until it's drained) or is there a sort of balance between the 2 (dock kicks in at a certain percentage or something)? Cause by always draining the dock first, the battery in there will get damaged right? It's not exactly explained in the 201 manual (I downloaded it to have a look heh).
I've witnessed a balance from mine. The keyboard charges for a while, then it doesn't. I haven't figured out the rules yet, but it does make sense. You don't want to completely discharge an lithium ion too many times.
fortunz said:
I've witnessed a balance from mine. The keyboard charges for a while, then it doesn't. I haven't figured out the rules yet, but it does make sense. You don't want to completely discharge an lithium ion too many times.
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As long as you keep it in the dock, I think it will drain correctly and you'll reach the end of your battery in both devices about the same time. Or you won't, and you'll have battery all day long
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fortunz said:
I've witnessed a balance from mine. The keyboard charges for a while, then it doesn't. I haven't figured out the rules yet, but it does make sense. You don't want to completely discharge an lithium ion too many times.
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KilerG said:
As long as you keep it in the dock, I think it will drain correctly and you'll reach the end of your battery in both devices about the same time. Or you won't, and you'll have battery all day long
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Ah that sounds great. Alrighty thanks for the info!
Just picked my 32gb gray tf700 from best buy and plugged it in the charger. So when can I turn this thing on without having to worry about battery issues.
ASUS said : "Wait 8 hours".
Some people can't wait, but I did. I don't know who is right, because there were many discussions about battery technology, and we still don't know who is right.
I turned mine on immediately lol
I only used it for a couple minutes before shutting it back off and charging it for the night
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Mine was turned on immediately also. The tablet had about 30% battery left so after letting it recognize my local network as well as my google stuff I put the charger on it and powered it down. As soon as the charging light changed to 'green' it went into my TF201 Dock keyboard which while booting up did an upgrade to my TF201 Dock from 206 to 207. Have never looked back since.
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Just picked my 32gb gray tf700 from best buy and plugged it in the charger. So when can I turn this thing on without having to worry about battery issues.
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Tablet charges within 3 hours. Once it hits 100% it stops charging the device. So leaving it on for an extra 5 hours makes no sense. A green indicator will also let you know when it is near or completely charged or just look in the notification bar.
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i turned mine on right away and checked it out for a bit while it was charging, then let it sleep and charge.
i've had no battery issues at all.
I played with mine almost immediately and battery has not been a problem
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as soon as you plug it in to charge the tablet will boot up. personally i can wait, so i just turned it back off and let it charge overnight
Are you using it yet?
Thats OK said:
Are you using it yet?
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yes, awesome tablet... i know, i know... i ask way too many questions... sorry about that man, it's jsut as a student I want to make sure I get the best product my money can get.
No u can't use it for another year , you have to charge it for like 10000x before u can use it . Geez where did you come from from the Jurassic period?
I am running stock JB on my TF300. I have noticed that when I have the tablet in the keyboard dock, it doesn't always use the keyboard dock's battery first, as my previous TF101 did. It is supposed to pull power from the keyboard dock battery, then from the tablet once the dock battery is dead. Anyone else seeing this? It does seem like it will work correctly if I reboot the tablet while in the dock.
Subject should read "Keyboard dock battery not draining before tablet BATTERY"
The dock charges the tablet. I'm not sure how it was on the TF101 but i think the dock of the TF300 charges the tablet when it goes beneath 80% or so
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The dock charges the tablet. I'm not sure how it was on the TF101 but i think the dock of the TF300 charges the tablet when it goes beneath 80% or so
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Yup, I know. I am docked and the dock battery is at 91% and the tablet battery is at 70% and dropping. The dock battery is not dropping; only the tablet battery. Therein lies my problem.
I think I have the same problem. Did you manage to fix it?
I'm noticing this, too. I recently rooted and put Hydro (JB) on my 300, and that's when I started noticing it. That's not to say that it wasn't doing it before, rather it's very likely I just didn't notice because I was too distracted by the lagginess of stock. But my tablet will keep dropping and the keyboard stays roughly the same. I think sometimes after a while it'll switch, almost as if it runs off the tablet most of the time but occasionally switches, but I'm not sure yet.
I think I had this issue before but I don't use my dock that much so I didn't make any note of it. I'm on the ICS bootloader running a custom JB ROM (Baked Blackbean) and I don't have this issue, at least not that I can recall.
I think the settings vary depending on which ROM you're running. i.e. one based on stock versus one based on CM.
So I'm on my tablet right now with the dock connected and the tablet battery is charging, but the lock screen shows it as discharging, so that's kinda odd. Anyone know what's causing all this?
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opethfan89 said:
So I'm on my tablet right now with the dock connected and the tablet battery is charging, but the lock screen shows it as discharging, so that's kinda odd. Anyone know what's causing all this?
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Did you manage to find out what was happening? i recently had this problem and was thinking it was a problem with the dock. It wouldnt pull any power from the dock (94% on dock and 70% on tablet) but once it hit 69% it just kicked in and now i see the blue >> indicating that the dock is charging the tablet.
i know this thread is a bit old, but i was panicking for a couple of hours while i was searching for information. hope it helps.
How long does the battery last in the tablet and dock? When the battery dies, how do i go about replacing it and where to buy dock and tablet battery? Tablet tf300t is around 1 year old, dock is about 3 to 4 months.
portage said:
How long does the battery last in the tablet and dock? When the battery dies, how do i go about replacing it and where to buy dock and tablet battery? Tablet tf300t is around 1 year old, dock is about 3 to 4 months.
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Are you talking about how long the battery will last on a charge or how many years it will be in "good health" .
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Are you talking about how long the battery will last on a charge or how many years it will be in "good health" .
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How many years it will be in 'good health'. Sorry, I thought it was clear.
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portage said:
How many years it will be in 'good health'. Sorry, I thought it was clear.
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Well, it uses a lithium battery, which can be measured in charge cylces, as shown here: http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
It depends on your usage.