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Hello Guys,
I've been on here for a while, and I've recently started my own business call Peekamo. It's a SMS based forum system (not made to replace this forum at all, more like a VERY IMPORTANT POSTS ONLY FORUM), along with personal SMS to anyone at no cost (aka FREE). These are all "real" sms, not smtp so that means not you or the receiver gets charged.
This is my attempt at causing a ripple in the high priced SMS market that the providers currently take advantage of.
So please try it out and let me know what you think. It's still in beta, so please understand if something things are out of place. I would really appreciate any comments or suggestions you may have.
I've already created a forum for XDA users, you can create your own if you wish. Our service currently works in US and Canada, and we're working on getting the rest of the world ready by the end of the month.
Thanks and hope to hear from you all soon.
The site is peekamo.com
Cheers!
Hi,
Very interesting! when I can will accesss those services from Venezuela?.
Regards,
Taguapire.
taguapire said:
Hi,
Very interesting! when I can will accesss those services from Venezuela?.
Regards,
Taguapire.
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Very shorly, I am just finalizing some details with my international provider. I will keep everyone posted on any changes.
Thanks!!!
Taguapire.
axiom said:
Hello Guys,
I've been on here for a while, and I've recently started my own business call Peekamo. It's a SMS based forum system (not made to replace this forum at all, more like a VERY IMPORTANT POSTS ONLY FORUM), along with personal SMS to anyone at no cost (aka FREE). These are all "real" sms, not smtp so that means not you or the receiver gets charged.
This is my attempt at causing a ripple in the high priced SMS market that the providers currently take advantage of.
So please try it out and let me know what you think. It's still in beta, so please understand if something things are out of place. I would really appreciate any comments or suggestions you may have.
I've already created a forum for XDA users, you can create your own if you wish. Our service currently works in US and Canada, and we're working on getting the rest of the world ready by the end of the month.
Thanks and hope to hear from you all soon.
The site is peekamo.com
Cheers!
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Axiom, great to see that we also have some real entrepreneurs among this community. I wish you the best of luck for your venture.
Lucas0511 said:
Axiom, great to see that we also have some real entrepreneurs among this community. I wish you the best of luck for your venture.
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Thank you. Our vision for this concept came by when my partner and I were at a club with another friend. After about 2 hours our friend gave his number to this girl that he met. At 6:00 we were at a breakfast place when all of a sudden the phone rings, and guess who it was. Yup, it was the girl. She called every few hours after that bothering him and sending him text messages.
That brought on the idea of anonymizing cell phone numbers by linking them to an ID with the ability to block out people from texting you. When you're finished with an ID and picked up all the girls/boys that you've ever wanted to, just change your ID and the connection is over right there and then.
Other then the anonymity feature, we found that we need to create a community presence so that everyone can use their new Peekamo IDs with others and share common intrests without giving up their phone number.
I don't even use my email as much as I use my peekamo id, and when I use email I sign it "dont' even think of replying, just peekamo me."
Hope to see more of you there.
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axiom said:
Hello Guys,
I've been on here for a while, and I've recently started my own business call Peekamo. It's a SMS based forum system (not made to replace this forum at all, more like a VERY IMPORTANT POSTS ONLY FORUM), along with personal SMS to anyone at no cost (aka FREE). These are all "real" sms, not smtp so that means not you or the receiver gets charged.
This is my attempt at causing a ripple in the high priced SMS market that the providers currently take advantage of.
So please try it out and let me know what you think. It's still in beta, so please understand if something things are out of place. I would really appreciate any comments or suggestions you may have.
I've already created a forum for XDA users, you can create your own if you wish. Our service currently works in US and Canada, and we're working on getting the rest of the world ready by the end of the month.
Thanks and hope to hear from you all soon.
The site is peekamo.com
Cheers!
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Ok, So a couple of questions:
1. I signed up, it sent me 2 different "codes" through sms to use as verification, but neither is working. I will be glad to send more information if you wish, let me know your preferred method (PM, email, etc). I guess that wasn't really a question, but whatever.
2. When you say free, how is this done? I pay per text message on Cingular. Your website says "Save more money on your phone bill by using Peekamo.com and send and receive SMS at no cost." I am still going to pay per text message to Cingular, right? Have you figured out some way for them to not charge me per text message? As an example, I am sure I'll be paying $0.20 for the two previously mentioned text message "codes" when I get my Cingular bill. If you have figured out some method for me to use sms from my phone, at no cost, well, holy crap.
3. This ain't no question either. I just want to say regardless of the answers to my above questions, thanks for jumping in to the arena and providing something. We need more people willing to jump.
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Ok, So a couple of questions:
1. I signed up, it sent me 2 different "codes" through sms to use as verification, but neither is working. I will be glad to send more information if you wish, let me know your preferred method (PM, email, etc). I guess that wasn't really a question, but whatever.
2. When you say free, how is this done? I pay per text message on Cingular. Your website says "Save more money on your phone bill by using Peekamo.com and send and receive SMS at no cost." I am still going to pay per text message to Cingular, right? Have you figured out some way for them to not charge me per text message? As an example, I am sure I'll be paying $0.20 for the two previously mentioned text message "codes" when I get my Cingular bill. If you have figured out some method for me to use sms from my phone, at no cost, well, holy crap.
3. This ain't no question either. I just want to say regardless of the answers to my above questions, thanks for jumping in to the arena and providing something. We need more people willing to jump.
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1. Make sure enter your phone number, email address, and code. Becareful you are not entering zero for O and vice versa. I will check your code in a bit
2. You WILL NOT BE CHARGED for the messages you received, nor will you be charged for any messages sent through the Peekamo network. You are right on the money, just like you pay .20 per msg, Peekamo pays per messages. We subsidize it through ad text at the bottom of the message of up to 20 characters. I think that is fair, no? Peekamo is one of only full no charge sending or receiving text message service in North America, everyone else uses SMTP, so you send free but the receiver pays.
3. Trust me, I know all about the lack of services such as ours. I fully intend on making waves in the industry that's monopolized by the carriers. With enough users on our network, we could seriously cause carriers like Cingular to rethink their 50% price increases in text messaging.
out of curiosity... how do you make money on this? since you stated its your business... is it from the advertising alone?
Do be completely honest. Right now, we don't make money. And it's not all about money. You tube never made a cent, and till today they show negative loses. We are trying to create a service that will be noticed and that will help the mobile community.
We also don't let businesses come on and start their own groups. Businesses pay to create their own private groups just like any other forum or service.
Our goal is to be wide spread and known, not to just make money.
You should go on to the site and check out the about us section, in there you will find all the information you are looking for.
He/She keeps sending me text messages from the same number. I told that person to stop but he/she still insists in persisting.
I'm using AT&T, and AT&T gave me to choices: 1) Pay AT&T 15 dollars a month to block a number and 2) Change my phone number for FREE.
I have reasons not to change my phone number and I can not afford 15 dollars a month for phone calls.
Will any techniques work in stopping this harasser from harassing me?
Or does anyone know a good software (I'll freaking pay for it) that I can use to ****ing deny text messages from this person?
Sometimes I even get phone calls from that number. Also......sometimes he/she attempts to call me as "unknown".
Other than that... if he/she keeps harassing me. I have no choice but to publicize his/her number so I can ruin his/her life for trying to ruin mine.
Cant you complaint to police instead?
I have an idea; change your voicemail to YouMail instead of ATT, then setup a Ditch Caller greeting/action and ditch the call or have them hear the same message all the time.
Free and pretty simple. You just can't answer your calls blind and must have caller id working. If the caller gets wize and calls from a blocked number you can ditch or block those too.
SPB Phone Suite allows call filtering. It can direct numbers on your 'black list' straight to voicemail.
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Someone on xda has made a freeware call firewall. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307178
I had this happening to me last year. The phone company (Orange at the time) were unhelpful so I responded to a text that if they did not stop I would contact the police. The offending text messages duly stopped.
The freeware call firewall sounds great. I´ve never had a problem like this but what can the police say or do?
My first thought was to spam him 10x back with some kind of automatic SMS sending service.
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The freeware call firewall sounds great. I´ve never had a problem like this but what can the police say or do?
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In the UK they can arrest the offender and caution them. If that fails then they are liable to prosecution.
A caution alone will flag up on a criminal records check - which is needed in the UK for some jobs - particularly working with children - which will will prevent you from being employed.
That's all assuming the police have the time or inclination to respond to your complaint.
Hi,
http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs3-hrs2.htm
The link may offer some information to you. I dont want to scare you but if it persists you need to get proper professional help for your own personal safety, DO NOT ignore it, any form of stalking whether your a man or woman is a serious matter and I am speaking from experience.
Isnt there an app called "Do not disturb".
I used it once. Do a search on it.
poetryrocksalot said:
I'm using AT&T, and AT&T gave me to choices: 1) Pay AT&T 15 dollars a month to block a number and 2) Change my phone number for FREE.
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What in the hell? AT&T actually forces you to pay $15 per month (in other words, as much as they charge for unlimited data) to block someone from harassing you? Aren't telecommunication companies supposed to help you or at least offer information to the police in cases of harassment and stalking?
Other people have offer good advice, but I'm going to have to agree with calling the police.
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What in the hell? AT&T actually forces you to pay $15 per month (in other words, as much as they charge for unlimited data) to block someone from harassing you? Aren't telecommunication companies supposed to help you or at least offer information to the police in cases of harassment and stalking?
Other people have offer good advice, but I'm going to have to agree with calling the police.
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What do you think capitalism is?
Ok guys, I need to know how to extract the messages into text. I would like to upload the messages from my phone to show you what my problem is.
I used a great method, which did not involve sending the information to police, dealing with courts (which causes you to miss work), or paying extra fees for software or from protection from my wireless provider.
I simply recorded (or found on the internet) an audio clip of "*annoying sound bit*this number has been disconnected", I let it repeat twice like the phone companies do. I then placed that for my voicemail greeting.
There is plenty of free software available you can use to blacklist callers. So blacklist the callers phone number and use the disconnected greeting. It will work like a charm because it will go directly to your voicemail. Eventually the text and phone calls will stop.
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What do you think capitalism is?
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What's with the snarky response? As I recall, 'capitalism' is a system in which the means of production is owned by individuals, and I don't think that inherently requires them to charge a high fee for absolutely everything. Of course, I also know that doesn't mean they won't do it if the consumer lets it.
You know, just forget it. I really don't care if AT&T charges $15 per month to block a number.
I offered a free, viable and immediate solution. So did others.
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What's with the snarky response? As I recall, 'capitalism' is a system in which the means of production is owned by individuals, and I don't think that inherently requires them to charge a high fee for absolutely everything. Of course, I also know that doesn't mean they won't do it if the consumer lets it.
You know, just forget it. I really don't care if AT&T charges $15 per month to block a number.
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I wasn't trying to be rude. I've been thinking about filing a report the police station. And all the other advices are highly considered too. But of all else, there was nothing that was meant to be rude.
(Please don't be offended, as well. I am not for socialism)
For exporting your sms go to this link and download SMS Export, its a good free app http://www.smsexport.com/
if you export as text its readable.
And as for capitalism , huh, its just as bad as communism, socialism etc..., its just another lie for corporation control of the masses. So three cheers for who gives a f*ckism.
rofl
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I wasn't trying to be rude. I've been thinking about filing a report the police station. And all the other advices are highly considered too. But of all else, there was nothing that was meant to be rude.
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No, no, I wasn't upset about that. Whichever advice you chose is wholly your choice and I don't want to interfere. I just thought you might have been making a sarcastic critique about me believing AT&T wouldn't charge for such a thing.
(Please don't be offended, as well. I am not for socialism)
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I am also not a person who hates socialism nor am I necessarily pro-capitalism. I do prefer capitalism, but I don't believe a pure capitalist system works.
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No, no, I wasn't upset about that. Whichever advice you chose is wholly your choice and I don't want to interfere. I just thought you might have been making a sarcastic critique about me believing AT&T wouldn't charge for such a thing.
I am also not a person who hates socialism nor am I necessarily pro-capitalism. I do prefer capitalism, but I don't believe a pure capitalist system works.
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Forgive me, it's the internet and it's hard to shape speech without true presence. Also, someone made a thread about the over-use of lol on the "Off-Topic" forum, which sort of caused me to refrain from adding a lol.
I am going to download the SMS export soon and show you guys the text (probably by October 1st).
Also, she has told me that she would stop once. She stopped for 1 week then suddenly spammed me again.
About 1-2 days ago she said she would stop again. But she claimed that she cried because of this. And she hasn't texted me so far.
One reason I don't want to file police report and take court action against this person is that if this is a real "teenager" girl as she claims to be, and that if she is from my perspective *insecure and need a friend* but also a real person, than I feel obligated not to hurt this person.
Also, if you guys are wondering, I think she got my number from a demo T-Mobile Touch Pro2 that I used to call my number. I forgot to purge the out-coming-call's list.
poetryrocksalot said:
Forgive me, it's the internet and it's hard to shape speech without true presence. Also, someone made a thread about the over-use of lol on the "Off-Topic" forum, which sort of caused me to refrain from adding a lol.
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You shouldnt realy pay attention to someone who tells you how to express yourself the way they want you to express yourself, the net is a free place( for now anyway) lol so enjoy lolling as long as you want to lol and dont forget to rofl too, lol, lol, lol
I would nuke em...spam them with a thousand text messages and see if they do it again....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3749481&postcount=1
im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help
tsk tsk tsk.....thats so illegal.
bodyman6666 said:
im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help
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your my hero
bodyman6666 said:
im looking for a free downloadable firm ware for my g1 to intercept text messages from another phone can anyone help
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not possible
funny question. It was funny because I told my gf I had an app like that and I was reading her texts and she was pissed but it was funny. I had her going for about a week until I told her it was fake.
Its not possible dude
what the hell do you need a app like that for, by the way NO such app, im sure there is some cracker some where has something like that, but never available for piblic consumption!!
but come one, jsut be man and read the TXTs like everyone else, I think he is thinking theres an app kinda like airsnort or aircrack ya know to pull wep keys outta the air to crack WiFi networks
Hey, friend the app your in search of is available but only to the law enforcement. If you apply for a job at your local police department or even the fire department they will give you a free demo of the machine that will allow you to "intercept" messages of your choice from any number even your own.I will not ask why your want to spy on other because that is your own decision, have a nice day!
I don't know where your from but you should visit the Police website your state too to see if you fit their requirements, make your you don't have some kind of record because they won't trust crooks with that kind of software power!
lol dude as if you want an app like that ...if you dont trust your girl, leave her ...
and if you think she's cheating...she is
lol thats illegal in most countries, well at least to civilians
yo, all you gotta do is get her phone, (what type of phone is it?) and than you can forward the messages to your number, shell never look man, and they will still go to her handset as well, trust me, my moron ex was sending me copies of all her texts ( HENSE THE EX) pm me and i will let you know whats the deal with it.
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lol thats illegal in most countries, well at least to civilians
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Just hack into Echelon, it receives every message we send.
ask HAL, he knows...oh how he knows..
Maybe if your on the same network provider you could get her message centre number iv heard that works
ah...a world where you cant trust anyone....what a lovely world it is....
am i the only one with any respect for people and their privacy?
it is just possible that he wants any texts sent to his old number that he may have lost or broken the phone and simcard, but more likely a bit of spying
We're not the big brother
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I'm currently running an HTC touch pro 2 and i still have my HTC touch pro. I turned my TP1 on the other day for the first time in many months and the phone picked up a text message, not only did it pick it up, it picked it up at the same time my TP2 did. Unfortunately it hasn't happened since.
What i'd like to know, is there a way i can emulate the IMIE number on the tp2, so that i can have both my TP2 and my TP1 working at the same time.
I want to be able to use my TP1 as a full data device while i make my calls on my TP2 or vice versa.
If you can't post the answer here for what ever reason feel free to private message me.
*edit it will recieve every txt message that is sent to my number but it won't send and it won't take incoming calls.
Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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Good luck with that, cause that aint gonna happen. Well, at least not anyway that I can possibly think of. Carriers wont allow more than one phone per mobile number. They say it isn't possible, but I personally think it IS possible and that they just wont allow it. Technically, it should be able to work. But the problems would fall with the GPS. Even if GPS was on in one device while off on the other, they couldn't track someone if they wanted to. I'm sure there are other reasons to this. I have never heard of what you are experiencing. They probabbly didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system, hence why you can receive texts but not send anything. What service are you on?
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1) unfortunately telus.
2) The GPS on my phones has been completely deactivated except for when I want to turn it on. I refuse to allow someone to turn it on remotely, also in Canada that's akin to wireless phone tapping so the cops can't do it. And even if they could legally i'd still reprogram my phone so they can't.
3) That's my point. If they didn't fully remove it and my old phone can still get the txt messages that means they can re-add the old MEIE numbers back to the system and both should work. OR if i could put an emulator onto my phone or even hard code the MEIE number change on my old phone to the same as my new one...
Remember back in the day when cellphones were still a new thing, the brick and bag phones and so on, well someone figured out how to clone phones and the practice caught on like wildfire and since then has been literally outlawed. AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE ONE OR MORE PHONES TO THE SAME IMEI, MSID, DEC OR HEX SERIAL TO GAIN USE OF MULTIPLE PHONES ON THE SAME LINE AT THE SAME TIME. Not being mean or an ass to you, but I would research this a little bit and tread lightly on the subject. Stuff like this is not tolerated very well on xda.
Plus, now it would be almost impossible to do this with any carrier as the data the phone sends out is not just what you want it to. Whenever it connects to the network is sends and receives configuration data such as manufacturer and model among other things and will throw red flags if it doesnt match up to what the expected result of the data sent and received to the network and carrier has on file.
Again, tread lightly on this path.
"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
"not tolerated very well on xda." Why? the whole point of these forums is to learn and teach people how to modify their phones. If they didn't want people sharing this information they should never have started this website to begin with.
As to my actual question and as to one stated answer
"They probably didn't fully remove the old phone's IMIE data from the system"
If it's still partially in the system that means it could be wholly in the system and means it should be able to be done. If they say it can't but i'm still getting txts on both phones that means the carriers are lying and are just making excuses to get more money. If thats all it is i'll do my best to get every penny out of them for every penny they're stealing from me.
Ok rant done, how do I clone my IMIE number? (no i won't tread lightly)
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"AS IN IT IS ILLEGAL TO CLONE" I'm serious, I'd like to see an actual Canadian law stating this. And if it's not illegal in Canada then it's a legit question. Well it's still legit.
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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its considered fraud under the law in most counties, like changing the VIN on a car, even if there isnt a specific law to deal with it
and besides that, its against the rules of this forum, so even if it was legal to do its not ok to ask about here
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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Your making a mountain out of a mole hill and there is a very real difference between a 6 or 8 hundred dollar phone and 15 thousand dollar plus car; unless you own both then i see no issue switching out the vin, as long as you own the cars.
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lawmakers disagree
as to being the against forum policy i challenge that on the simple fact there is nothing wrong with sharing knowledge.
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"lawmakers disagree"
I can't trace out anywhere where they say cloning your phones IMIE is illegal in Canada, and i also just got of the phone with HTC and they said they don't know of any laws saying it is.
As to the forum admins, they are allowed to disagree, but i'll be they want to know just as much as I do.
Another thread (closed) on this site which discusses ESN cloning: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380172
Just search on google, and you will find what you need. There are programs like cdma workshop out there.
well I am one of the types of people that think being charged for sending text is ridiculous when i have internet on my phone
But just sending text to someones cell number, rather than email/aim/other Instant messengers that not many people use, is pretty convenient. cell providers could easily scrap the fee and send our texts via 3g internet and everything would work fine.
Has anyone here at XDA developers dug into this subject yet? I remember when i had aim people could send messages to my phone with aim and i could send messages to aim also.
I have the verizon fascinate (galaxy s). and this is my first cell phone
bump.
no one is interested in saving 10-15 dollars a month?
I (and a lot of other people) use Google Voice.
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I think you mean sending free messages. If the other has also a smartphone with internet, take a look at PingChat WhatsApp(both free).
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EleCtrOx666 said:
I think you mean sending free messages. If the other has also a smartphone with internet, take a look at PingChat WhatsApp(both free).
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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ya this is the type of thing i am talking about.
although what would be ideal would be to not have to have a program like that. like somehow recieve/send texts normally with your cell number but just have it go through the 3g network and not the network the carrier uses for text/pics/vids.
So you want it to be sent/received the same way as SMS, but free....
Yeah.. No. You're going to have to use Google Voice or some sort of chat program.
i would say use ping or even kik, kik is getting very popular over cross platforms. (iPone, BB etc) as long as the other ppl have kik u should be able to text, if not jus look for a app on market
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So you want it to be sent/received the same way as SMS, but free....
Yeah.. No. You're going to have to use Google Voice or some sort of chat program.
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ya i mean. thats just ludicrous. why try to save money. lets just continue being ripped off.....
cell phones with data packages should not have to pay for sending text/vids/pics. is that really hard to understand?
Wunako said:
i would say use ping or even kik, kik is getting very popular over cross platforms. (iPone, BB etc) as long as the other ppl have kik u should be able to text, if not jus look for a app on market
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i thought kik was just text and not pics or vid
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ya i mean. thats just ludicrous. why try to save money. lets just continue being ripped off.....
cell phones with data packages should not have to pay for sending text/vids/pics. is that really hard to understand?
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A text message has to be delivered to the recipient somehow. It doesn't go directly to the intended person but rather to your carrier. Your carrier will then either route it to the recipient if on the same network or forward the message to the recipient's network who takes over delivery. Guess who wants money to use their networks in this way?
If you want to text for free then you'll have to get a Google Voice number and route your texts through that. Google is basically doing the routing for free.
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A text message has to be delivered to the recipient somehow. It doesn't go directly to the intended person but rather to your carrier. Your carrier will then either route it to the recipient if on the same network or forward the message to the recipient's network who takes over delivery. Guess who wants money to use their networks in this way?
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do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection.
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation. what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection. Holy cow, you're either a slowpoke or a troll
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation. what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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It is GOD DAMN IMPOSSIBLE to send texts over 3G until YOUR CARRIER allows you to cause ALL TEXTS go through the CARRIERS and you CAN'T hack into THEIR network.
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fupamobile said:
do you seriously not understand what i am saying here? your paying for a 3g connection(INTERNET) that is fully capable of sending texts etc. While SIMULTANEOUSLY paying to use another form of connection to do the same job that is easily executed on the other internet connection.
the carrier could easily route text messages to use the 3g network instead of the sms/mms network. they choose not to because they can rip off people who dont realize the situation.
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You're vastly oversimplifying this in your head. The infrastructure to send and receive text messages is already in place and works regardless of phone model and capabilities. You can have a smartphone, feature phone, or dumb phone (that can text) and the infrastructure will handle it all the same. Adding the capability to use the data connection to tap into this infrastructure would cost lots of money for the carriers and potentially expose the SMS infrastructure to vulnerabilities.
Could the carriers do this? Certainly, but they're not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Not only would they be losing texting revenue from a larger and larger portion of their base but the costs to implement any such changes would be highly unlikely to bring in any return.
The carriers aren't providing services to make you feel good. They are in it to make money and will do so in ways that you might not agree with. Texting has proven to be a very viable revenue stream and the carriers certainly don't want to endanger that by developing alternative methods to access the same service at no cost just for you.
fupamobile said:
what the hell do you think gmail is? come on guys. this isnt a hard concept to grasp.
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Email and SMS are very, very different. One has no guarantees about notification while the other depends on it.
K900 said:
It is GOD DAMN IMPOSSIBLE to send texts over 3G until YOUR CARRIER allows you to cause ALL TEXTS go through the CARRIERS and you CAN'T hack into THEIR network.
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read the entire post freak. never did i say we should hack into their network. your just mad
Spitemare said:
You're vastly oversimplifying this in your head. The infrastructure to send and receive text messages is already in place and works regardless of phone model and capabilities. You can have a smartphone, feature phone, or dumb phone (that can text) and the infrastructure will handle it all the same. Adding the capability to use the data connection to tap into this infrastructure would cost lots of money for the carriers and potentially expose the SMS infrastructure to vulnerabilities.
Could the carriers do this? Certainly, but they're not going to do it out of the goodness of their hearts. Not only would they be losing texting revenue from a larger and larger portion of their base but the costs to implement any such changes would be highly unlikely to bring in any return.
The carriers aren't providing services to make you feel good. They are in it to make money and will do so in ways that you might not agree with. Texting has proven to be a very viable revenue stream and the carriers certainly don't want to endanger that by developing alternative methods to access the same service at no cost just for you.
Email and SMS are very, very different. One has no guarantees about notification while the other depends on it.
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news flash bro, nothing in life has garauntees.
guess i better not send any more gmails to anyone.or use pingchat, or use whatsapp. it might cost my carrier lots of money........................
fupamobile has a point about sms charges, infact carriers in general, being a rip off.
hurrah for capatailisim and its greedy foot soliders
I don't normally bother with brainless posts like fupamobile's responses but damn... I get the point (and agree) about paying for texting. Now, you get a couple ACCURATE responses and start name-calling because you either don't understand or don't want to accept the given answers. Talk about obnoxious.
Dbagjones said:
I don't normally bother with brainless posts like fupamobile's responses but damn... I get the point (and agree) about paying for texting. Now, you get a couple ACCURATE responses and start name-calling because you either don't understand or don't want to accept the given answers. Talk about obnoxious.
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i give the attitude i receive. stupidity deserves it. u mad brah?
fupamobile said:
i give the attitude i receive. stupidity deserves it. u mad brah?
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I can't tell if you are just being a troll or are really that dim.
Google voice. I send what ever I want, just like I was using the "normal" text or sms services. I send them to the same numbers...it's transparent.
Why can't you understand? The q was answered long time ago.
fupamobile, you cannot do what you've proposed. If you want to use the SMS system, you must adhere to the current rules and regulations. You can circumvent being charged by using an instant messaging program, but you will not be able to use the actual SMS system without having to pay one way or another.
I live in Canada and we have the highest wireless rates in the world and I have unlimited messaging, 6GB of data and a very good plan which comes to about $50 a month after tax. You can't get everything in life for free. At least if you're in the United States you can use Google Voice and get free voice calling, I think even SMS but I'm not sure as it's not here. You can get very reasonable voice, data and text plans and with all the free calling and IM clients I can't see why one would also need free SMS. If it's that highly valued, simply subscribe to an SMS plan through your provider.
I personally send and receive thousands of SMS each month and could absolutely not survive without it. I use it more than voice services.
don't some plans give you free text to certain numbers? or is this a totally different topic? sorry for my confusion, cause here in aus, i get free text to people on the same carrier like i am. but if you mean free texts to everyone, then, my bad.
hahahahaha
let's start a thread that may as well ask "why do big corporations want our money?", and then argue with all the other realistic responses even though it's very clear that your dreams will never be realized because you're asking people to do something for free.
Do you not understand something about the world?
And yes, +1 for google voice essentially doing what you want.
-1 for you thinking that verizon would do the same.