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Hey all,
I've been searching everywhere in google as well as in XDA with no success. I am trying to do a full Nandroid backup (just like people are advising you to do when changing roms).
I currently have Clockwork 3.0.0 and am Rooted on stock. When I go into recovery, the only thing I have in regards to backup is just "backup" and no "Nandroid Backup" like people are saying all over the forums. Do I have to install something specific? I am puzzled! Is nandroid a method of backing up or the name of a program?
Also, when I backed up using Clockword >> Backup I found its only around 300mb so I assume it doesnt backup your SD content (i.e. pictures and videos + programs) as well? Is there a way to do a FULL image with literally everything?
Any help will be appreciated!
Hi...well backup sounds about right. Don't worry about whether it says nandroid or not. Mind doesn't. Just go ahead and do the backup.
And as for the SD card...well no need to worry there either because the SD contents do not get wiped out anyway, so there's no need for it to be backed up in the sameway.
Hope that helps.
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When I'm looking at the development section, it says that it will "WIPE ALL YOUR DATA". Doesn't this suggest I should also backup my pictures + videos?
Thanks for the help!
The only thing that wipes all your data and sdcard is a fastboot oem unlock, and it sounds like you're already past there. Flashing new roms and choosing "wipe data" in clockwork recovery does not touch your sdcard at all.
It's always a good idea to backup your photos and videos just in case. It only takes a few minutes and better to waste a few minutes than lose a precious irreplaceable video of the kid's first steps.
Nothing should wipe your sdcard other than the fastboot oem unlock, but that doesn't mean it can't be wiped by mistake. I just responded in another thread where the guy accidentally formatted his sdcard. Everything gone.
Better safe than sorry, in my opinion.
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
co0kie said:
haha i agree, will Titanium Pro backup my photos/videos aswell (as you've commented on the other thread) or it just backs up apps ?
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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It will only backup apps/data on the internal rom space, not on the sdcard; so no, it won't take care of your photos/videos.
Mount the phone via USB, select mount USB storage, then drag and drop the folders with your photos/videos to your computer harddrive.
Camera photos and vids are kept in the /dcim folder if you use stock. Some 3rd party camera apps may put them someplace else.
I usually just make a full copy of the sdcard at one point, then use rsync periodically to keep it current.
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So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
co0kie said:
So I guess this is one adv. of keeping apps on internal rom space.
Making a copy of the sdcard and resyncing it periodically sounds like a good idea IMO, what programe do you use to resync the sdcard?
thanks,
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Titanium will backup apps and data that are on the sdcard if you put them there with the apps2sd feature. It's smart that way. I'm talking about the apps that store settings and stuff (like Titanium itself, Launcher Pro, ADW, the gym log apps I've used, lots of games, etc) that put user data on the sdcard outside of the protected or apps2sd storage area on the sdcard.
I don't use an app for rsync, I just use the rsync command from the terminal on my Mac.
There's a couple of rsync apps on the Market. Someone mentioned using an app to rsync in one of the threads on here not too long ago. Here's an appbrain link to a search on the term rsync, it only shows two apps.
What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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What if I move the app using Gingerbread feature to "move to sd", will it still know to back them up?
/is that what u meant in the beginning by feature of apps2sd? not sure cause there is an actuall program that does this
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Yes, that's what I meant. It also covers just about all of the various apps to the sdcard hacks that various rom makers have implemented over the last year or two; certainly the popular ones like cyanogen and darktremor's versions.
If you get Titanium Pro, pay for the license. It will enable batch restore where all your apps can be restored at once without user intervention, otherwise I believe you have to okay each one individually.
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
co0kie said:
I just bought it and performed a batch back up thank you!
Now, assuming i have already perfomed a backup and now if i move the app2sd, will it know to update it next time?
Then, when i jump to the next ROM, all i have to do is batch restore?
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If you move the app to the sd, the restore will put the app back in its location where it was during the backup. Just run a batch backup of all changed applications after moving anything around.
After you flash a new rom, just run a batch restore: apps and data only, usually not a good idea to restore system settings across different roms.
hello guys, i have 1 problem that i was ignoring for too long, anyways, when i use cwm backup, it backups evrything, including sd ext , now when i restore, it restore evrything,
BUUUT , my applications are not working, i mean, they are there, i can see them, they take memory but cant use them, applications from sd ext,
i was using s2e .
as u can see on picture, they are grey, and have some sd mark near them, i am so noob
its pretty urgent, if anyone know what to do say, or i just flash over rom lol, i hate doing nan backup and restore when have a2sd s2e or ungaze (((((
figured that , since my dalvik is on internal and app data on sd ext , my system afther restore doesnt want to mount sd ext partition. what could be problem?
anyone???? formated sd card again, and made new partition again, restored system again , but it wont restore sd ext part, and cant mount sd ext afther i reboot, hwat can cause that problem guys??
Using s2e ??? What Rom are u using??
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anyone???? formated sd card again, and made new partition again, restored system again , but it wont restore sd ext part, and cant mount sd ext afther i reboot, hwat can cause that problem guys??
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I installed the Cyanogenmod A2SD, before of it I installed the script for him, then I marked Apps are on the SD> Dalvik Cash on SD-EXT> Move in A2SD and when everything is almost A2SD system should I reboot. Then I installed the applications and restore everything works fine.
i am on cm mod ofc, for s2e , just problem is, i keep dalvik on intenral, app on sd ext, when i go nandroid restore, sd ext partition wont mount anymore.
zimis, that is same a2sd as for normal roms?
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zimis, that is same a2sd as for normal roms?
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I don't know. I use A2SD version 1.0.
I don't get it:
Is there a solution to the problem? Because I just ran into it as well which is pretty annoying because it's my girlfriends phone and guess what: She hates it when I fiddle with it to "make it better" ending up with a dead phone! :/
Question:
What is the solution to restore nandroid backup when using s2e, it get's fully restored w/o errors but after reboot most apps are "gone" even Root is gone. When I try to install an app it says: You replace an app. So thats not working either...
measel said:
I don't get it:
Is there a solution to the problem? Because I just ran into it as well which is pretty annoying because it's my girlfriends phone and guess what: She hates it when I fiddle with it to "make it better" ending up with a dead phone! :/
Question:
What is the solution to restore nandroid backup when using s2e, it get's fully restored w/o errors but after reboot most apps are "gone" even Root is gone. When I try to install an app it says: You replace an app. So thats not working either...
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What's happening here is that the symlink of the apps is gone.
The files are still present, but the system doesn't recognize them as "apps".
Idk how to solve these when using s2e, but link2sd has an option which allows restoring symlinks.
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No clue about the root part though.
Did u try s2e patch by pavel...i think that may solve the problem..i hope so..
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@a.cid
Since i didn't really find a solution I had to start from scratch and this time I used your great Tutorial about Link2SD a MUCH better solution than S2E.
BUT: I moved nearly everything exept the Holo Launcher to SD and still I only got 50 MB on data. I just don't understand... shouldn't it be nearly 140 MB or so? I did move everything (dalvik as well).
What might be the problem here?
Will it work the next time I'll make a Nandroid backup?
Slightly OT:
My other problem was that I did a mistake by only backing up user app with TB, so I had to get contacts and such from the backup which worked neither with TB nor with AppExtractor so possibly the nandroid was missing the symlinks already. So the long way was to extract files by hand and move it back to the new system. Than I had to start again from scratch because when I moved Swype to System something went so terribly wrong that it threw an error so often, I couldn't do anything to remove files. I tried fixing it by "Fix Permissions" but that made it worse and all the symlinked apps got me errors! It was a terrible long night.
@cosmickamal:
I couldn't because I could neither open s2e nor could I install s2e again because it gave me a "Do you want to replace the existing one?" and I still couldn't fire up s2e.
Well I hope this is fixed.
What I learned:
Do not combine S2E with Nandroid backups and ALWAYS backup EVERYTHING with TB, too. Just in case!
Thanks for your help.
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@a.cid
Since i didn't really find a solution I had to start from scratch and this time I used your great Tutorial about Link2SD a MUCH better solution than S2E.
BUT: I moved nearly everything exept the Holo Launcher to SD and still I only got 50 MB on data. I just don't understand... shouldn't it be nearly 140 MB or so? I did move everything (dalvik as well).
What might be the problem here?
Will it work the next time I'll make a Nandroid backup?
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Why do you NEED so mich mem free? Link2sd doesn't move app private data, like for eg, my custom whatsapp has 20mb data which remains inside the data partition consuming space.
I have 30 mb of space left, but I can still install Ingresd oh-so-easily.
Believe me, having 140mb free system resources would be a waste in this case.
More judicious use is the existing setup.
And nandroid works, tried and tested countless times by my own self
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My other problem was that I did a mistake by only backing up user app with TB, so I had to get contacts and such from the backup which worked neither with TB nor with AppExtractor so possibly the nandroid was missing the symlinks already. So the long way was to extract files by hand and move it back to the new system. Than I had to start again from scratch because when I moved Swype to System something went so terribly wrong that it threw an error so often, I couldn't do anything to remove files. I tried fixing it by "Fix Permissions" but that made it worse and all the symlinked apps got me errors! It was a terrible long night.
@cosmickamal:
I couldn't because I could neither open s2e nor could I install s2e again because it gave me a "Do you want to replace the existing one?" and I still couldn't fire up s2e.
Well I hope this is fixed.
What I learned:
Do not combine S2E with Nandroid backups and ALWAYS backup EVERYTHING with TB, too. Just in case!
Thanks for your help.
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S2e or most other memory solutions don't mess with your contacts and messages and other system data
I don't need all the memory free but if my girlfriend comes wining in a few days because it is full again - well, I try to avoid that.
And I had like 30 MB free before and that wasn't enough if a view updates were running (dunno why).
Good to know that Nandroid works now. Thank you.
So I've encountered this problem on another ROM where I wasn't able to install any APK files or any other applications in google play. I did some research when it kept telling me I don't have enough space to install the application because of low memory, which I obviously knew all my memory was good enough to install something, and I came across a thread somewhere that said to delete some type of file in the sd card or the system files but I can't remember what and where it is located nor I can't find the thread again. That resolved my issue on my old ROM.
I'm having this same problem with another ROM I'm currently running. Anyone know any solutions?
Anyone....
BoostedEK said:
Anyone....
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i can promise you no one will help you with such a vague question. if you were able to search out your answer before, surely you can again. if not please specify what rom you are using, or more accurately post said question in that roms forum so you can get a group of people that are currently using the same rom.
not to come off mean, but you pretty much gave me enough information it compares to a person taking a car to a mechanic and saying 'my car is broke'
after looking at your post history, it seems you are having all kinds of problems with your phone.
My suggestion would be redownload your rom, put it on the sd card, then in 4ext or cwm set it to format all partitions except sd card. and then install your rom, reboot and ill bet your problems go away.
Darunion said:
i can promise you no one will help you with such a vague question. if you were able to search out your answer before, surely you can again. if not please specify what rom you are using, or more accurately post said question in that roms forum so you can get a group of people that are currently using the same rom.
not to come off mean, but you pretty much gave me enough information it compares to a person taking a car to a mechanic and saying 'my car is broke'
after looking at your post history, it seems you are having all kinds of problems with your phone.
My suggestion would be redownload your rom, put it on the sd card, then in 4ext or cwm set it to format all partitions except sd card. and then install your rom, reboot and ill bet your problems go away.
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Well, I actually did search this problem I'm having when I first had it a couple weeks ago and I found a solution which was to delete a file in the system or SD card but I can no longer find it, hence the reason why I am asking for help on this.
I was able to install apps or APK files fine before I restored all my SMS and MMS messages but now I can't. I doubt it has anything to do with the ROM because it was working perfectly fine. And even after I restored all the messages, I know I have enough internal storage to install an application.
Now, what your saying is it too backup my ROM then format all partitions except the SD card. Whenever I try to back up a ROM, I don't understand why it takes up so much memory which causes it to have an error when it's in the process of backing up because of no more memory. The android secure folder that's on my SD card gets backed up with the ROM which is a big file and that's what causes it to have an error. That is when I have about 1.2gb free to backup. And people say when you backup ROMs it shouldn't be over a gig.
My ROM is Android Revolution HD 7.0.4
BoostedEK said:
Well, I actually did search this problem I'm having when I first had it a couple weeks ago and I found a solution which was to delete a file in the system or SD card but I can no longer find it, hence the reason why I am asking for help on this.
I was able to install apps or APK files fine before I restored all my SMS and MMS messages but now I can't. I doubt it has anything to do with the ROM because it was working perfectly fine. And even after I restored all the messages, I know I have enough internal storage to install an application.
Now, what your saying is it too backup my ROM then format all partitions except the SD card. Whenever I try to back up a ROM, I don't understand why it takes up so much memory which causes it to have an error when it's in the process of backing up because of no more memory. The android secure folder that's on my SD card gets backed up with the ROM which is a big file and that's what causes it to have an error. That is when I have about 1.2gb free to backup. And people say when you backup ROMs it shouldn't be over a gig.
My ROM is Android Revolution HD 7.0.4
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Problem will occur if u are restoring sms messages from a rom that isnt based on sense (like cm7, redemption, etc etc) unless you are using an app to do that like sms restore or gosms, for some reason ive had issues when i had TiBu do that for me.
I personally never backup and restore anything, sucks losing stuff but it is honestly the only way to create a clean environment. Backing up a rom takes up so much because (i could be mistaken) when you do a imaged backup from cwm or 4ext it takes even your cache folders into the backup.
Darunion said:
Backing up a rom takes up so much because (i could be mistaken) when you do a imaged backup from cwm or 4ext it takes even your cache folders into the backup.
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Even when I clear cache?
I used My Backup Pro to backup and restore my messages. Hmm.. maybe I'll just backup my ROM, partition everything except my SD, and flash it again without restoring my messages and see if that helps. Thanks.
BoostedEK said:
Even when I clear cache?
I used My Backup Pro to backup and restore my messages. Hmm.. maybe I'll just backup my ROM, partition everything except my SD, and flash it again without restoring my messages and see if that helps. Thanks.
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dont backup the rom, redownload it
Hello Everyone, I have a fairly simple question, I have done searching but have not found a sufficient answer to my question. It is possible I overlooked it so if so I apologize. I want to format my internal SD. I have never done it before and have a billion folders and what not and it bugs me to see them all. So I actually have two questions.
What folders do I NEED to keep on here
Best way to format
I am running Sky jellybean 4.1.2 and as for my recovery it is CWMR Touch v6.0.0.7 by sk8erwitskil
In my experience, I move all my pics and music to external, then backup my appa with Titanium Backup.
In TiBU, I have it configured to back up apps and app data to external as well.
Then when I wanna try a new ROM, I wipe everything, including internal, load the ROM and restore from TiBU.
Never an issue.
To more directly answer your question, much of your installed app data is there, and you'll likely hose them by clearing out the drive.
If its not causing a problem for you and you're not out of space, leave it be. Otherwise, do a backup, nandroid, and wipe it and see what happens. Format in Windows as a fat32 drive.
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I haven't seen this asked before, and I need some help with this one.
My CWM backup is taking up nearly 2gb on my 8gb p3113 tab. I need that space back to install something (its a big game). Can I zip that up and move it off my internal SD? Can I move it as is to my ExtSD? Will CWM be able to find it if I compress it or move it? (I haven't had to restore a backup yet (knock on wood)).
Thank you for the help in advance, I am so tired of being out of space when I haven't installed much except some essentials.
Yes, infact not sure what version of CWM you have but some actually let you save them to the external (like safestraps older version before they went TWRP on the RAZR lets you choose where to save it when you go to make it.)to begin with, aside from that just cut and paste it from the internal to the external sd, don't "zip" it tho because you won't be able to restore it if its zipped.
You don't even have to leave it on the device. You can take it and put it on the thumb drive and leave it in your desk drawer, and then if you end up needing that back up 2 months from now you can reload it onto the external SD card.
But if it's a CWM6 backup make sure you get the whole ClockworkMod folder, not just the backup.
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But if it's a CWM6 backup make sure you get the whole ClockworkMod folder, not just the backup.
Posted from my Galaxy Tab with CM10
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Can you explain this? I copied the CWM folder from root/SD, is there more that needs to be moved?
Also as a secondary question, does it matter if I updated my CWM (using Rom Manager) from an older 6.x to a newer 6.x? Should I make a new backup?
FlynnErik said:
Can you explain this? I copied the CWM folder from root/SD, is there more that needs to be moved?
Also as a secondary question, does it matter if I updated my CWM (using Rom Manager) from an older 6.x to a newer 6.x? Should I make a new backup?
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No there is nothing else needed to be moved.
And please can you tell me what is size of your cwm backup...
Droidlover123 said:
No there is nothing else needed to be moved.
And please can you tell me what is size of your cwm backup...
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It is currently 1.9G in size.
Does the newer CWM make a smaller/bigger backup? Or were you just curious for another reason?
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It is currently 1.9G in size.
Does the newer CWM make a smaller/bigger backup? Or were you just curious for another reason?
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No i was just curious to know.
So this means that cwm only backups operating system not apps installed on it???
That's why size is only 1.9gb