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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest
I used root keeper and updated to jb after update I restored root. According to root keeper I am rooted and good to go. Titanium and multiple other apps work fine but, sqlite has no directories and I tried to update binarys through superuser apk and it fails when it reaches the gain root access step. I cannot install safe strap until I get this sorted any help would be appreciated.
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I had the same problem as you. I had to:
1. Backup my phone phone
2. Download matts utility
3. Restore back to ICS using the utility
4. Root using utility
5. Push OTA root keeper app using utility
6. Protect root and unroot
7. Install over the air update (OTA)
8. Enable root and update binaries in app
9. Protect root again and unroot
10. Install JB and re enable root
After I did all that, my root stuck and all my root apps including sqlite worked great.
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Thank you. Now all I need to do is purchase a windows machine and get rid of this stupid macbook pro.
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yutzyscott said:
Thank you. Now all I need to do is purchase a windows machine and get rid of this stupid macbook pro.
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I will buy it haha. What model is it?
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itsdubai said:
I had the same problem as you. I had to:
1. Backup my phone phone
2. Download matts utility
3. Restore back to ICS using the utility
4. Root using utility
5. Push OTA root keeper app using utility
6. Protect root and unroot
7. Install over the air update (OTA)
8. Enable root and update binaries in app
9. Protect root again and unroot
10. Install JB and re enable root
After I did all that, my root stuck and all my root apps including sqlite worked great.
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It would seem as though the step I skipped was the updating of the binary's before the jb update.
I have purchased a tiny compact awesome acer ultrabook for the purposes of droid fun. I will be keeping my macbook pro. its not worth selling anyway. I dont know the model off hand but its from 2007 and not even capable of mountain lion
P.S. I have had tablets thicker than this ultrabook. Cool!!
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.
hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.
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It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.
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Are people generally thinking reverting back to 4.04 will be possible? Probably a hard question to answer I know.
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xdracco said:
Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.
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OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.
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OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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bwanamarko said:
I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.
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Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.
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I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, just to get this straight, was this your process...
1. Revert back to 4.0.4.
2. Temp Unroot
3. OTA Update to 4.1.1????
4. OTA Update to 4.1.2????
5. Restore Root
bwanamarko said:
I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?
hunter82i said:
OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?
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Yes essentially. Actually there was about a week in between, during which time I deleted some bloat, but don't do that. Do as I say, not as I do!
Process should be something like:
0. Back up everything!
1. Use @mattlgroff windows RAZR HD utility 1.10 to
(A) revert back to ICS and wipe everything
(B) get root via @djrbliss motofail2go debglug exploit & install su, busybox
(C) install voodoo ota root keeper & protect root
(D) install safe strap
2. Temp unroot
3. Get 6mb update (some say do between 1A &B, but I did it here and lycked out.
4. Get JB update
5. Now here check out matt's post on how to upgrade and keep root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39497138#post39497138
He's says to install ICS on one of safe straps slots. I skipped this step - think if you needed to you could do it later, but its a good idea b/c we know ICS is rootable, although if you loose root can't boot safe strap. Hm, have to read up on that.
6. Take latest 4.1.2 ota. You cannot ho back to ICS now unless you have it on safe strap.
7. Restore root with voodoo
Enjpy
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My girls RAZR HD who I've been meaning to unlock and root (didn't care much since mine is)...automatically downloaded the 9.18.79.in.US update.
She always chooses not to take updates so I know she didn't push download.
She keep getting the Install later or install now screen. Choosing later only postpones for 12 hours. Is there any way to prevent the install and somehow delete the update?
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amwenguer said:
My girls RAZR HD who I've been meaning to unlock and root (didn't care much since mine is)...automatically downloaded the 9.18.79.in.US update.
She always chooses not to take updates so I know she didn't push download.
She keep getting the Install later or install now screen. Choosing later only postpones for 12 hours. Is there any way to prevent the install and somehow delete the update?
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From how I understand it, there really isn't a way to back out of it now. If you want to have the ability to unlock the bootloader and/or root, I would highly recommend doing it now. It doesn't take very much time at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307439
Also, after you root and unlock make sure to use a root keeper before taking the update (otherwise you will have to reinstall the system/ROM it to get root back). Good luck!
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From how I understand it, there really isn't a way to back out of it now. If you want to have the ability to unlock the bootloader and/or root, I would highly recommend doing it now. It doesn't take very much time at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2307439
Also, after you root and unlock make sure to use a root keeper before taking the update (otherwise you will have to reinstall the system/ROM it to get root back). Good luck!
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I rooted mine a while back and didn't get any available updates (maybe because I went to aosp based ROMs soon after?) so was no need to use a rootkeeper app.
Something changed in the last few months? Thanks for the quick reply by the way
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I rooted mine a while back and didn't get any available updates (maybe because I went to aosp based ROMs soon after?) so was no need to use a rootkeeper app.
Something changed in the last few months? Thanks for the quick reply by the way
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You didn't get an update because you're not on the stock ROM you're on whatever AOSP ROM. The OTAs only apply to phones that are still on the stock ROM. Custom ROMs like yours generally come rooted so a root keeper is not necessary since when you upgrade to a newer version or a different ROM, it too will be pre-rooted.
You're welcome, others have helped me a lot, so I"m just passing it on!
Just wanted to add, if you wanted to put off unlocking for some reason, you can just root it and use titanium backup to freeze the updater. Then it'll quit nagging you/her.
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Just wanted to add, if you wanted to put off unlocking for some reason, you can just root it and use titanium backup to freeze the updater. Then it'll quit nagging you/her.
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I used a utility a while back from Dj bliss that was literally a 1 click unlock and 1 clock root. I'll probably do that up. Rooted, unlocked... It all voids warranty right? What's benefits to rooting only without unlocking. . I know she doesn't care much about custom kernels. In fact, she doesn't care about any of this stuff... But I figure having the ability to still root is important to me. I made the mistake of taking an update a while back and waiting to root. Screwed me up for a while till they found that latest exploit. Was kicking myself for weeks.
Thanks for all the replies.
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Very simplistically, root allows you to install apps that work deep within the system (like titanium backup - being able to freeze Verizon bloat, etc.). Unlocking allows you to install different ROMs allowing you to come up to android 4.2.2 and configure your system a lot.
My phone also automatic download the update, I'm stock rooted, don't know why I got the update
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My phone also automatic download the update, I'm stock rooted, don't know why I got the update
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Verizon is pushing the update to all phone using a schedule of sorts. Think it goes by areas maybe states.
To stop the annoying 'update now' messages, freeze updater.apk using Titanium. Since the update fixes the 'unlock bootloader' exploit, you should unlock now if you are considering that avenue.
Droid Razr Maxx HD
9.18.79.XT926
Android 4.1.2
Rooted it using Dan Rosenberg's root method here: http://goo.gl/cbJzT. Never unlocked or installed any recovery.
As I'm now going to be selling the phone to my uncle, I don't want it rooted. I just want to go back to out of the box stock in case he needs to go to VZW for help.
Is the DROID RAZR HD Utility 1.33 option 1 from here ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474393 ) all I need to do? Am i leaving anything out?
I don't care if it's a full wipe or lose all the data. I was going to do that anyway before setting up as new for my uncle.
Thanks
EDIT: Or is it as simple as just running SuperSU and selecting Full Unroot? It's not that easy, is it?
If you're going to do a full wipe anyway, you might as well just flash it back to stock with RSD Lite since that will also get rid of root.
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If you're going to do a full wipe anyway, you might as well just flash it back to stock with RSD Lite since that will also get rid of root.
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But will the way that I posted work too? Or would simply using the SuperSU remove root work too? Don't want to just start pressing buttons and end up worse off.