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I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!
All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?
Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.
You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.
buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?
You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?
binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free
Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
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usmaak said:
Hi,
I've had my GSIII for a couple of months now. It's completely stock and unrooted. I was wondering if there was any benefit to rooting it, but not unlocking the bootloader and installing the custom recovery. I know that I won't be able to install custom roms or kernels. But is there anything else that I'd be losing out on?
Thanks
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The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
zenboy444 said:
The only reason to unlock the bootloader would be to allow you to flash custom ROMs such as Cyanogenmod10, SlimRom, etc. You can do this by downloading EZ-Unlock from the play store. You will need root to run the program.
You will need root access to do anything a "superuser" needs to do, i.e. run programs such as Titanium backup, triangle away, ROM manager, Ez-Unlock, Root access using file explorer programs, and other programs that require root to function. You can flash Custom Recover without root, using ODIN and an ODIN CWM tar with a boot chain. You can then flash superuser/root using custom recovery.
If you don't need CWM Recovery, then you can just root using the PC USB method.
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A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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usmaak said:
A couple of months ago, I had an Evo that was fully unlocked, with a custom ROM and kernel. For now, I just want to root it, so that I can run things that require root, like Titanium, and some of the other apps that I bought when on the Evo. I rooted and unlocked the Evo because I was tired of it being sluggish. I actually really like the current setup on my GIII. I'm sure that down the road some ways (when I get bored), I'll fully unlock it, to take advantage of other ROMs.
I am still on 4.04. If I just root, will I be able to update to JB with the OTA?
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You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
The big reason I rooted was to uninstall all the bloatware and the ability to back everything up. That right there should be enough for anyone. As far as the ota, you should be able to, just expect to lose root as I've seen in other cases.
OnceAMatrixMan said:
Similar question...
I am stock 4.0.4, but want to root now that JB is out (don't know why I waited guess I just like the idea of doing it before probably the last major OTA). So I plan to root and unlock. Just wondering do I do it now before loading the JB OTA or afterwards? Are there advantages of one over the other? Thanks!
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No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
Quacker said:
You should be able to receive the OTA update for JB if you check for updates in settings; if not you will receive it soon. Rooting will not speed up that process at all, and since you'll likely be on JB soon there's really no point in rooting right now. OTA will remove root anyway, but there is a rooting method for JB already available.
If you do eventually decide to root, the main advantage is you can unlock bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install one of the many ROMs available for this phone. If you dislike TouchWiz, you can flash an AOSP rom like CM10 which is more of a stock Android experience. If you don't mind TouchWiz, you can install a ROM like CleanROM which gets rid of Verizon's bloat with a few extra perks.
If you're not into installing custom ROMs, you could still take advantage of rooting by freezing unwanted apps which hinder battery life and run other root-only apps like AdFree which block ads. Also, you can avoid waiting for Verizon to push out updates and install the leaks early.
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I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
usmaak said:
I already have the JB update available. I am just waiting a while, to see if it causes any unintended problems. Specifically I'm looking to see if it adversely affects battery life or signal strength.
I'm doing the research and seeing what the differences are between rooting and unlocking the GSIII and the Evo. Right now, I'm fine with the stock ROM. It's way better than anything that I had on my Evo (and I tried them all). Right now, I just want to be able to run apps requiring root.
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In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
Quacker said:
In my experience, it's usually difficult to avoid OTA updates for long if you're not rooted. I would usually go to sleep and find later that my phone updated itself.
I haven't heard of any battery issues with JB, but I don't see why anyone would want to stick with ICS at this point. Google Now alone is worth it.
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I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
Quacker said:
No point in doing that now because you will likely receive the OTA update within days, which removes root. You could technically install the leaked OTA manually right now (check the dev section), but since you're running stock you'll just receive it automatically. I wouldn't bother.
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I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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usmaak said:
I don't want to avoid OTA updates. I want it, I just want to wait a few days. I deferred it until 12/19.
I just want to make sure that:
1. I can still get OTAs with root, and...
2. There is a way to keep root if I accept the OTA.
I do want JB, but I've gotten screwed by OTAs in the past, on the Evo. I just want to be as certain as possible.
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You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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OnceAMatrixMan said:
I delayed the update earlier today. I saw in several posts that Voodoo Root Keeper keeps root. So still curious to root now or after OTA update...?
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
Quacker said:
You can get OTA with root. Just don't freeze any apps.
You can keep root with OTA Rootkeeper. I haven't heard of it failing for anyone with the recent update.
You could always re-root in JB.
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Up to you. Rootkeeper does work with this update. I suppose rooting in ICS is easier, but the JB method isn't all that difficult either.
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So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
usmaak said:
So, I should be all set if I complete section 1, steps 1 - 7 of this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
True statement?
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Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
nufan said:
I just rooted myself before I received OTA for the following reasons:
1) I didn't want to use ODIN
2) Didn't want to worry about using Triangle Away
This was my first time rooting, and it was effortless. I used droidstyle's guide. The only thing I did differently was use a modified Debugfs (w/SuperSU), since my phone didn't like the original Debugfs (w/superuser).
The modified Debugfs can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1883984
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Doesn't the counter only get tripped when you flash a ROM? Just rooting won't trip it, will it?
Quacker said:
Yep! Then install and use Rootkeeper.
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One more question, and I am off to give it a try. Is there any way to uproot the phone once it is rooted? You know, just in case I need to bring it in for service if something goes wrong with it.
rooting S III 4.1.1
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
newtodroid_1 said:
so I have been thinking about rooting my S3, and did the research and found these two very well explained instructions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1875914
My question is does either one still work for S3 with JB (since they were posted when S3 had ICS).
Thank you!
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Nope they both are ics only. Here it's the only way right now for jb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35418324
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Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.
hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
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It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.
Megaroad said:
It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.
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Are people generally thinking reverting back to 4.04 will be possible? Probably a hard question to answer I know.
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xdracco said:
Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.
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OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.
hunter82i said:
OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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bwanamarko said:
I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.
hunter82i said:
Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.
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I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, just to get this straight, was this your process...
1. Revert back to 4.0.4.
2. Temp Unroot
3. OTA Update to 4.1.1????
4. OTA Update to 4.1.2????
5. Restore Root
bwanamarko said:
I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?
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OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?
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Yes essentially. Actually there was about a week in between, during which time I deleted some bloat, but don't do that. Do as I say, not as I do!
Process should be something like:
0. Back up everything!
1. Use @mattlgroff windows RAZR HD utility 1.10 to
(A) revert back to ICS and wipe everything
(B) get root via @djrbliss motofail2go debglug exploit & install su, busybox
(C) install voodoo ota root keeper & protect root
(D) install safe strap
2. Temp unroot
3. Get 6mb update (some say do between 1A &B, but I did it here and lycked out.
4. Get JB update
5. Now here check out matt's post on how to upgrade and keep root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39497138#post39497138
He's says to install ICS on one of safe straps slots. I skipped this step - think if you needed to you could do it later, but its a good idea b/c we know ICS is rootable, although if you loose root can't boot safe strap. Hm, have to read up on that.
6. Take latest 4.1.2 ota. You cannot ho back to ICS now unless you have it on safe strap.
7. Restore root with voodoo
Enjpy
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Ok so heres my first question?........... Is there any possible way of gaining root access through linux for my android ? ....Like running certain commands to do so......I know u have to change permissions and make changes to the android file system......And was wondering since linux uses root in terminals and so on and so forth would it work to access root in linux and maybe use a file manager to open your android system files in linux to make these changes so u may root. .. Instead of waiting for a DEV to create a method or script that will work ... Isnt there a way we can gain this back without waiting for an actual script to release . I rely on my root for a vast majority of my apps and i am lost without it . I know it may be more complex and diffucult for some people but to gain root access back this way ... But it would be great.
I have a working linux set up on my comp already with working adb /sdk installed ..... If anybody can help me with rooting my phone it would be very much appreciated. Im not new to this at all im very familiar with linux and how to use it. i basically need help with the rooting process and what to do when it comes to that.
I do not have an unlocked bootloader if that makes any difference.
Took 9.30.1 OTA and lost root.
As far as i know there is no script/method to root for the new OTA 9.30.1 update.
Tryed rooting already with Linux but my file system wont allow anything to be written to it.. Its Read Only File System. I think it has to be Read/Write
I really hope there is a root script/method released soon if this way isnt possible
Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you
No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
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No. Unless an exploit is found, you are out of luck.
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
mnkurk1989 said:
Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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I doubt there will be another exploit. This phone is a year old now and most devs are focusing on custom ROMs.
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Do you have any idea what the progress lioks like for an exploit coming out soon for this update?
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Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
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My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
xknobi said:
My phone is the not-unlockable one and locked.
I happend to click yes when this update question came. After realizing what was happening, I set my phone to flight mode, and the update downloading is now paused. Is there anyway to cancel this downloading/update process?
I have installed safestrape and backup my stock ROM before this. The worst is that I restore the backup and the update question will be prompted again, right?
Or is there other way to stop the update downloading in progress?
Another question, if root is lost through the OTA update, can I restore the backup through Safestrape and get root again? Or is everything gone?
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Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
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Once root is lost after the ota has been fully applied, the backup will do you no good as there is a new kernel applied.
As for it being paused, I believe you should be okay. Just because you started the download doesn't mean it's been applied. Freeze the updater apk and reboot. I believe that will cancel the download and with the frozen updater, you won't get bothered again.
You could apply the update if you save root with voodoo root keep but if you ever have to reimage your phone, you will lose root permanently. I'd just hold off and wait and see if an exploit is ever found.
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Thanks for the info. I have just restored the backup stock rom and all is good. Installed Root Keeper anyway.
Anyone working on a root exploit for 9.30.1
So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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Mostly likely none. Because at this point 95% of people know to protect root before taking an ota. Or just don't take it.
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I had root with the 9.30.1 update. I backed up root with OTA RootKeeper but my phone was acting up so i factory reset it and all went to hell...!!! I protected everything and backed up hoping that would do the trick but unfortunately it didnt save the root like it should have now i sit I regret ever resetting it thats for sure. It was risky on my part playing with the reset option knowing there was no exploit out yet and i payed the price
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So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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I have a few guys looking into it for me im hoping to hear back soon with some good news
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So is anyone working on an exploit to root this update?? I just don't want to have to keep SBF'ing my Razr Maxx HD back to older versions and reconfiguring all my stuff. For what ever reason, I could not get OTA's. I was rooted(motochopper) and used superuser and voodoo. Protected my root, temp unrooted, downloaded the update, but then it would fail on install. I even tried flashing back to the stock recovery and it failed. So just to see what the 9.30 did, I installed it through Droid Razr HD Utility 1.34...of course I lost root, can't put a custom recovery on it, but my phone seems to run pretty good for a stock rom. So, I'm just wondering.
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im assuming your bootloader is unlocked?
if so, search for a flash-able zip of SU. you can root any build, problem solved.
I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
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I know our RAZR HD's are old, but there's nothing better out there. At this point, I'm willing to pay cash money for anyone able to find a new root exploit for this dumb 9.30 update. I took all the precautionary steps and have an unlocked phone, yet for some reason as soon as the update applied I lost root. It happened during the last ota and I got lucky that the warranty covered me. Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty. So once again, please find a root exploit and I'll pay you. I dont want to get rid of my razr. Thanks yall
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there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred
bweN diorD said:
there is no need for a new exploit if you have an unlocked bootloader.
search for a flash-able SU zip or search razr forum for the rooting unlocked bootloader thread.
problem solved, cash payments preferred
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I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
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I've tried every su time there is in here and other sites. They fail every time. I've tried recovery through twrp and cwm and they both fail. As a matter of fact since I took the update neither one of those will work now either. I'll keep trying new stuff until I succeed or brick this phone. All other devices that are currently available can't hold a flame to the RAZR.
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Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
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Then are you sure you have an unlocked boot loader? If not, then you are hosed. We're just going by the fact that you posted " Not gonna happen now with a unlocked booty".
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I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
tried using motochopper (no winning)
All boxers are checked, however when I get the true ending to check my SU, it gives me some bogus message about needing to update SU, however it says I have an HTC device, I'm very confused on this, and don't understand what it is even referring too.
Anyone know what I'm reading about here?
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I get the "warning, boot loader unlocked" message every time I power up. Used *#*#4636#*#* and checked that device shows root. I took all the precautionary steps before installing the ota, and I was having problems that both 9.20 and 9.30 fixed. Was running eclipse as a ROM before all this went screwy lewy
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http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/20473-[How-To]UNIVERSAL-Recovery-and-Root-ANY-{Unlocked-Bootloader-XT926-&-XT907}-Easy! I have used this twice after I've taken an update from vzw... If if your phones not being recognized it could be your drivers or the cable
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I am on a locked RAZR HD. If anyone knows how to keep root on the new kitkat upgrade, please share.
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I am on a locked RAZR HD. If anyone knows how to keep root on the new kitkat upgrade, please share.
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I'm in the same boat. But, since the leak is only a couple of days out, I'm 99.999% sure that there is only a handful of people that would know the solution. And since they are the ones who created this update in the first place, we will have to wait until our more c rafty comrades get lucky and crack it.
My advice is to hold what you have. Tap and pay is my only motivator to update. And when you boil it down, thats just a gimmick anyhow. Having root has more weight. I updated too soon once. Now I can't unlock.
There is no way. Not voodoo or superSU. Only unlocked boots should be taking the OTA!
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I'm in the same boat. But, since the leak is only a couple of days out, I'm 99.999% sure that there is only a handful of people that would know the solution. And since they are the ones who created this update in the first place, we will have to wait until our more c rafty comrades get lucky and crack it.
My advice is to hold what you have. Tap and pay is my only motivator to update. And when you boil it down, thats just a gimmick anyhow. Having root has more weight. I updated too soon once. Now I can't unlock.
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Also, if you do happen to get root back for the locked bootloaders, the Sqlite tethering hack doesn't work anymore as well. They fixed that exploit with the KK update.
However, as long as you have root, there is another hack to make it work. I posted another thread on how to do this at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2749659.
Cannot install even after removing SafeStrap and SuperSU
I have a Verizon Motorola RAZR MAXX HD running 9.18.94.XT926. I had rooted the phone, was using SafeStrap and SuperSU. I removed both but the OTA for KitKat still fails. Any ideas?
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I have a Verizon Motorola RAZR MAXX HD running 9.18.94.XT926. I had rooted the phone, was using SafeStrap and SuperSU. I removed both but the OTA for KitKat still fails. Any ideas?
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It's because the phone is still modified. You'll have to sbf back to a stock version.
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Any hope for those of us who are rooted , unlocked and currently running CM11?
yes I reverted back to stock. worked fine but root is gone of course and whats weird is no developer options in settings to enable usb debugging?
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davekaz said:
yes I reverted back to stock. worked fine but root is gone of course and whats weird is no developer options in settings to enable usb debugging?
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Ok I think Ill stick with CM11 for now. I prefer to keep root
davekaz said:
yes I reverted back to stock. worked fine but root is gone of course and whats weird is no developer options in settings to enable usb debugging?
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It's there. Go to Settings, then select "About Phone". Scroll down to "Build Number" and keep tapping on it. Eventually, it will tell you developer mode has been enabled.
This was the same under Jelly Bean.