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back up when switching between roms.

hi there guys,
I have some questions about how to make a total back-up of your rom, so you don't have to setup your apps and stuff like that, when you wanna try something new. Setting everything up when I wanna go back,is holding me back.
hope this is not a total repost, if it is just show me the old thread, cause I couldn't find it.

Errr... A classical Nandroid (whole Rom with Kernel, Apps and Settings) and/or Titanium Backup (Apps and Settings - possible to transfer data between different roms) should offer everything you need
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when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?

Safidk said:
when I bake a backup with clockwork, I still need to set everything up, and install my apps again. What am I doing wrong?
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I always backup and restore from recovery menu of clockwork, this means when restoring everything is put back as it was.
Not sure why this isn't working for you
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I downloaded (and paid for) the newest version of clockwork manager from the marked. How do you do it, just from the app or do you boot in recovery? When you say full recovery does that include everything, so you don't have to setup anything?

Yes mate, boot into recovery, select "backup and restore", then backup - this will save a full copy of your system as it stands. When you backup from the recovery menu it will put everything back exactly as it was when you backed it up - ie all apps & data already setup
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and before I recover I need to do a complete wipe, right. System, catch and factory?

No.. you dont need to wipe before restrore.
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ok, tnen I'm gonna try again. Don't see why its not working for me. There's not a secieal setup I need to do? I haven't done anything else than installing the app ;-)

Confusion?
I believe that there is a couple of differing questions are being asked and answered here.
A Nandroind backup or full device backup (excluding RADIO) will enable you to restore your device back to the exact state that it was in when taken. All the phone partitions SYSTEM/DATA/BOOT/CACHE/etc are all backed up. Therefore restoring one of these backups will ensure that the ROM, kernel and data will be restored together and the phone will be operational.
A Titanium Backup backs up applications and setup data that enables you to easily restore your installed applications and configuration. After a factory reset or a re-install of the same ROM.
It can often be problematic to use a titanium backup after changing the version of the ROM you used or when moving from one ROM to a completely different one. In fact quite often ROM cooks recommend that you don't use a Titanium backup restore in the setup of their ROM.
That being said I still take both types of backups on my device. As titanium backups are useful for restoring individual applications to a previous state if they encounter a problem or corruption.
I believe that the Nandroid backup is the most useful recovery tool we have available to us and always take one, before flashing any new ROM or ZIP file, better to be safe than sorry.
Although I'd also recommend that all personal data ie calendar & contacts should be backed up by sync'ing to the cloud and never just kept locally on the device.

[Q] [Help][i9003] [Revolution rc5]

Hi, I installed the version 5, and 2 I have no music player, bluetooth does not work for me, I can not add or remove the startup screens, it is assumed I have 2 launcher, and only one is installed ... And this rom stable? Nose me that, please help..
I have a samsung scl galaxy (i9003), root access, deoxo, and installed the latest version of android revolution ..
thanks
With bluetooth I can not send or receive anything

heeeeeeelp please

Firstly, this belongs in the Q&A section, not in the dev area.
Addressing your problem:
Did you install this over another custom ROM?
Try to deodex again (using the flashable zip file method) and reinstall this ROM?
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) before embarking on such ventures henceforth.
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thanks and sorry it did not place the subject well ..
I have proven with the original rom and everything works, I flashed, I hempezado from scratch and made ​​deodexado root and everything works, now I installed the rom and still not working .... : S
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) Before embarking on ventures Such henceforth.?

ersamu831 said:
Take backups (Nandroid and TiB) Before embarking on ventures Such henceforth.?
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TiB = Titanium backup, basically same as a PC backup, backs up your userdata and applications, make sure, however, that you place the backup data either on your EXTERNAL SD card or save it on your pc, when you lose your data/flash a new rom, all you have to do is re-install titanium backup and restore the data and apps (although do NOT restore system apps, might cause problems)
Nandroid backup: have you flashed clockworkmod (Comes with CF-Root)?
when you go into recovery mode (either using button combo or using the CWM app you have in your drawer, you can make a backup of the whole system, including FW specific files etc, make this backup, save the data either on external sd or pc, and when u need it, restore using CWM recovery mode (for example when u want to go back from the custom rom to stock and dont feel like flashing - rooting - deodexing
these 2 backups save you a lot of trouble

ah ok, thanks for your help, I just do the bakcup from the recovery mode, it hize kph in the home version, clean, applications do not care much, I'm looking for some kind of custom rom pretty, I like the revoluion the keyboard rc5 gingerbread and val-notification and timing is very important, but vv bluetooth does not work, now cranium use 3.0, but the calendar has a circle in the current week horirible! help
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Thread has been moved to general. Please post questions in this section and not the development section
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[Q] What should i use for backup and restore instead of TiBu?

i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!

there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own

People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...

Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?

Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!

fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[

fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?

fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
Contacts and calendar data syncs with Google.
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[Q] Need help with custom ROMs and Back-ups

Hello. I am in need of some help. I have a rooted LG G2 with TWRP on and I want to flash a custom Rom on it but I have a few questions.
1) What ROM should I flash that's compatible with my phone?
2) Will I need to wipe all my data?
3) How do I backup EVERYTHING on my phone?
4) At other suggestions on what I should do prior to flashing a custom ROM?

1) Take a look in the development section of your device to see all the Roms and see what's best for you.
2)Yes, you will need to wipe your data, or your new ROM can cause severe problems, due to incompatibilities, etc.
3)There are 2 options here, you can either use TWRP to make a nandroid which backs up everything, including user apps and app data, system partition, etc. If something goes wrong, you can restore your nandroid and everything will be as you never touched anything.
You can also use an app called Titanium backup, which backs up all apps and data, but you need to backup and restore within the app.
My advice: make full backup using both methods, so you have a full system backup, and a backup on a per app basis.
4) Before flashing, make sure you've read up on your device and how to flash etc, so you are prepared and know what to do in case something goes wrong. If you need help, feel free to post here on XDA
Other than that, please make a backup before you do anything to your device, I cannot stress that enough. Have fun, it truly is a fun process tinkering with devices
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{help} making a flashable zip of my phone

Like the title says, I'm trying to figure out how to make a flashable zip of my phone with all my installed apps, app data and settings included.
I already have a nandroid backup and I already use titanium to back up my apps and app data, but I want to have a flashable zip as another backup incase all else fails.
I also want to be able to flash the zip on my wife's N5.
Can someone kindly walk me through the process or point me in the direction of a good walk through?
Thanks in advance.
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re: zip file rom backups
tamelion1117 said:
Like the title says, I'm trying to figure out how to make a flashable zip of my phone with all my installed apps, app data and settings included.
I already have a nandroid backup and I already use titanium to back up my apps and app data, but I want to have a flashable zip as another backup incase all else fails.
I also want to be able to flash the zip on my wife's N5.
Can someone kindly walk me through the process or point me in the direction of a good walk through?
Thanks in advance.
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Don't you think that if it was something feasible and worthwhile to do many of the developers would have
created something like that already after all these years?
The developers have already developed an excellent way of backing up and restoring android phones using
TWRP and CWM nandroid backup and restore functions in their custom recovery mode which everyone uses.
If you don't trust nandroid backups why not do a simple test and make some nandroid backups and restore each
of them one at a time to see if you can find any kind of issues, problems or difficulties with your phone after you
have restored each of the backups one at a time.
Have you ever created a nandroid backup which did not restore properly or know of anyone who did?
Also why not do a bit of research here in these xda forums and threads to see if you can find any posts here by
people who are having any problems, issues or difficulties using or restoring their nandroid backups.
Good luck,
Have a great day!

Misterjunky said:
Don't you think that if it was something feasible and worthwhile to do many of the developers would have
created something like that already after all these years?
The developers have already developed an excellent way of backing up and restoring android phones using
TWRP and CWM nandroid backup and restore functions in their custom recovery mode.
If you don't trust nandroid backups why not make two of them as a test and restore each of them one at a time
and see if you can find any kind of issues or problems with your phone after restoring each of the backups.
Have you ever created a nandroid backup which did not restore properly or know of anyone who did?
Also why not do a bit of reading here in these xda forums and threads to see if you can find any people here
who are having any problems or issues with their nandroid backups after they have restored them.
Good luck,
Have a great day!
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I trust in my nandroid backups. The main reason I want to create a flashable zip with everything backed up in it is to have the ability to create a duplicate image of my phone and flash it on my wife's.
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tamelion1117 said:
Like the title says, I'm trying to figure out how to make a flashable zip of my phone with all my installed apps, app data and settings included.
I already have a nandroid backup and I already use titanium to back up my apps and app data, but I want to have a flashable zip as another backup incase all else fails.
I also want to be able to flash the zip on my wife's N5.
Can someone kindly walk me through the process or point me in the direction of a good walk through?
Thanks in advance.
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well if you really want to learn
here's a simple example of how you can build yourself a rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/development/custom-rom-starter-template-honor-5x-t3328809
keep in mind you can't use his updater-script and you need to adjust some of the commands to match the note 5
but for the most part all roms are the same
you need:
META-INF <Folder>
boot.img
system.apps.tar.gz
system.therest.tar.gz
and optionally > data.tar.gz
once you have these you essentially have a rom

There's also an app called "zip me" in the play store that will do exactly what I wanted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=zip.me
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re: backups
tamelion1117 said:
I trust in my nandroid backups. The main reason I want to create a flashable zip with everything backed up in it is to have the ability to create a duplicate image of my phone and flash it on my wife's.
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If you want a duplicate image why not create two nandroids and copy one
to your pc then to your wife's phone since you say the phone is identical
which they would have to be in order to use the same backup.
Once the nandroid is on your pc you can simply copy it to your wife's
internal memory then restore using twrp.
I have about 5-6 nandroid backups of different roms for my phone.
Goodluck,

Misterjunky said:
If you want a duplicate image why not create two nandroids and copy one
to your pc then to your wife's phone since you say the phone is identical
which they would have to be in order to use the same backup.
Once the nandroid is on your pc you can simply copy it to your wife's
internal memory then restore using twrp.
I have about 5-6 nandroid backups of different roms for my phone.
Goodluck,
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I don't think I was clear in the op. I know how to create nandroids, and yes, I could easily do it that way, but what I really want to do is compile my rom, settings apps and app settings into a flashable zip instead. To further my knowledge so to speak.
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