AT&T Rant - Samsung Infuse 4G

I understand but don't agree with AT&T's throttle policy. But this is just ridiculous (see screenshot below).
.01 Mbps!!! Ridiculous... speeds this slow make my phone practically unusable!! And this is "unlimited" data... haha.
I know there is nothing I can do except grind my teeth and take it or go elsewhere.. I hope AT&T loses a lot of business because of this.
I understand throttling to an extent... but to throttle at 3gb with technology today. HD videos, Netflix, YouTube, internet radio, posting pictures with the phones 8mp camera.. of course data usage is getting bigger and limits are getting smaller.
I don't go far over 3gb, its hard to with these speeds.. but its normally the last week of the month that I get throttled. So I would most likely use 4gb, maybe 5gb. I read that 4g phone plans have a 5gb limit... and honestly I thought the Infuse was a "4g" phone... any way for an enormous and very profitable company to stick it to the little guys.
I also noticed that I get throttled at different usage. I use data monitor to track my usage and I've been throttled as low as roughly 2.5gb and at max I'll get to maybe 4gb.
Does anyone know how exactly we are throttled? It can't be automatic if it varies this much, can it? I imagine some well paid old man in a suit counting his stack of money, laughing and randomly hitting a big throttle button. Haha.
I apologize for a semi useless post and ranting away.. it's just been one of those days and needed to blow some steam.
Thank you for listening and everyone who contributes to this forum.
Now I'll sit here while I wait for this post and screenshot to upload on my ATT throttled BS. I wonder if a dial up connection would be faster.. haha. Do they still have dial up internet available? Remember all those AOL CDs? Haha.. sorry... I'm done...
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I feel your pain, but from a different direction.
We only have the 200MB per month AT&T plan for each of our 5 Infuse phones and don't go over that.
Most of our internet activities occur at home where we use our Wifi router.
But that single Wifi router feeds up to 5 phones, a pc, and three laptops.
After somewhere around 5GB in a month and our ISP (Clear) starts throttling us slower.
It definitely kills the experience when you can't watch a video from start to finish without waiting for it to buffer a few times.

Unlimited Text, Talk, and Data, only $45/mo: Prepaid Straight Talk SIM Port your number over, and tell ATT to go fornicate themselves.

I am rated at 7.2mbit up to 360mb. I will grab another test once I'm throttled. This is o2 in Munich Germany. They say throttled speed is 64k. We will see.
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I feel for you, but at the same time all carriers are doing this or will be doing it in the near future.
If you look at the current growth of mobile data usage and consider the spectrum they have to work with it's not sustainable. You can only fit so much information in a certain amount of bandwidth.
I am almost always near wifi, so my monthly data usage rarely excedes 200-300 mb. I'm on the 2gb plan but have never even used half of it.
Personally I wish companies would charge for what you actually use. (at a reasonable rate of course)
That will never happen, because they can't do the legal gymnastics to call it "unlimited" and they would scare off the early adopter and trendsetter types.

I left AT&T for Straight talk and left my 400 Meg twice as expensive plan behind for unlimited talk, text and data and now happily tether my Thrive Tablet to my phone on the back woods farm of my grandparents in Kentucky for Christmas where AT&T couldn't even connect! :good:

The thing you are forgetting is Straight Talk isn't true unlimited either. I have them and I'm talking from experience. I've gotten lucky and used almost 5gb and not been throttled but they are getting worse about it lately. I only used 1.6GB this month and they throttled me. There is no rhyme or reason to how they do it but they do it. 2GB and less you are usually fine on ST but if you goto howardforums.com and goto the Straight Talk section they have a thread on the throttling. Some people use 4-5GB and have no issues but some use a bit over 1GB and get throttled. It's honestly still WELL worth the cost because to even get CLOSE to this on AT&T for a single line will be around $110 a month.

I have 3 GB data plan and I think that's enough for me
If you are on single person plan, I also think that straight talk will be better choice for you
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I hate the fact that they make you have a data plan with any smart phone. But their new family share plan helps a lot.

Going to look into Straight Talk, thx

If you upgrade your phone to LTE phone, you will get 5 GB and get throttled.
You should upgrade your phone to get more and faster data from AT&T
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zpzp96 said:
If you upgrade your phone to LTE phone, you will get 5 GB and get throttled.
You should upgrade your phone to get more and faster data from AT&T
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But then I will have to sign another two year contract if I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a phone
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Throttling never makes sense just like the family share plan it's an excuse to get more money. I got fed up with ATT and left for t mobile. The plans are cheaper and I get true unlimited. With a rooted phone I tether and sure it's not true Lte but I still average 8-10 Mbps and that's perfect for me.
no 2 yr contract nexus 4 and T-Mobile best option out there

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But then I will have to sign another two year contract if I don't want to pay an arm and a leg for a phone
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Maybe I don't know will enough about AT&T, but I believe you party same amount of money even you are under contract or not right?
Then all you need to pay is phone cost. There are some good phones with LTE and under $100.
Or you have choice of straight talk which gives you pretty good amount of data with super cheap cost.
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tmobile is true unlimited. also has month to month plan no contract. i'm gonna switch over soon when my contract is done with att...

Just wanted to chime in for a second. I had Straight Talk on my Infuse 4G for almost a year and while the service is pretty decent, I noticed that in a crowded AT&T cell I get kicked off. Also, I notice that (very rarely) in some places I don't have access to 3G service whereas other people with contract AT&T do (might be a modem thing, though, not 100% sure). There is supposedly an unspoken limit of 2GB of data per month (and some say even 100MB per day at most), but I have been careful to stay under both of those limits, the maximum I have used in a month on ST was 1.4GB.
Now I'm back on AT&T with 6GB Mobile Data Share and 2 lines (our Skyrocket i727s) and I have to say that the service is more consistent than I had on my time with straight talk (I've witnessed at shopping centers and malls I got kicked off of the data network more than a few times in favor of AT&T customers due to crowded cells), that and the LTE is great and the Skyrocket is just an all around awesome phone. I know the i727 is long in the tooth, but $.97 for a 1.5GHz Qualcomm S3, 1GB of RAM, LTE and that great 8MP camera is too hard to pass up. If you're broke like I was, it's a good deal.
Just my two cents. I know AT&T is a PITA but it could always be worse...you could be stuck on Sprint paying for 4G in an area with no 4G like I used to, lol.

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At&t unlimited data plan...

So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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francous said:
So I just signed up for at&t right after the unlimited data plan was retired.. But I heard the at&t unlimited data plan might be pulling a jay-z (comeback) ..
Does anyone know if this is true? Its all I need to be 100% happy/satisfied with my captivate..
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To add to this question: If it were to come back, would it cost more? That will be BS if it does! What sly corporation skills for taking away something people like, and then giving it back for a higher cost. D:
HERE ya go
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HERE ya go
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Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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francous said:
Thanks for the info...sucks "new users"like me who were never on a unlimited plan can't have the option tho :/hopefully some day.. I hate being limited!
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lol, I feel ya. Sort of...I have the unlimited plan
But you'd be surprise how many people don't even come close to the 2gb plan. I use the tethering moderately and stream pandora quite a bit, and there's only been a handful of times that I went over the 2gb mark. I'd say for the majority the 2gb is enough, plus they are offering another extra 2gb. I just don't like how they are charging extra for the tethering.
I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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I also have the unlimited and I can admit I never come close to the 2GB.
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Same here - never reachd 2gb... but I need it for peace of mind. I don't have even check what I've used on my phone. I have to worry constantly about my wife and daughter going over their limits. In fact, my wife accidently went over her 200mb limit by using DroidTV and not having it set for "Wifi Only", coupled with her WIFI settings still at the default setting of "Turn off WIFI when screen goes off" instead of "Never". Even if she was set at 2gb I could see an accident like this happening and costing extra money.
AT&T claims that they notify you when you reach 60%, 90% and 100% of your limit. This is bullsh*t. They don't. First, data use reporting is about 12 hours behind. You can blow your cap by quite a bit in 12 hours. Next, when she went over 200, they sold her another 200 for $15 without any text. I believe this can happen up to 5 times ($90 for 1.2gb). 12 hours later she got a text and I got an email saying she was nearing her limit - but the limit she was nearing was 400mb (the second set of 200mb). We were never informed as she blasted right past the first 200mb. Thank goodness she only had a couple movies set to download. If she had a series recording it would have cost a fortune.
I want to set a hard limit and then have data shut off at that point. Don't sell me extra data automatically. Maybe for technical reasons, they don't know for 12 hours... so they once they find out turn off my data and don't charge me for the overage. Until they can and will do this, I don't think they should be selling limited data plans. Until they can send you warnings in a timely manner, they shouldn't be selling limited data plans.
To AT&T's credit, I was able to retroactively change her data plan to the 2gb plan back to the beginning of my billing cycle - so the mistake cost me $10. Now out of piece of mind I will probably have to keep her at the 2gb plan even though in the past she's never even come close to the 200mb.
RE: Verizon "unlimited"... I can understand temporarily throttling back a heavy user maybe for few hours or days, but not for the rest of the billing cycle and definately not for the next billing cycle. Can you imagine you make one mistake like my wife did and have your speed crippled for up to 2 months? How can they even legally cripple service for a future billing period?
This is important for us to follow because AT&T is probably watching this approach closely and will eventually adopt it for us as well.
foxbat121 said:
There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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5% is a huge number of customers - probably a lot of them being business customers. Once enough people get throttled back Verizon may have to rethink this approach. Consider what Comcast did. They went from unlimited to 250gb. That's a very reasonable limit that certainly doesn't catch 5% of their internet customers. Of course as time goes by they will have to adjust that 250 up or they will start catching more and more customers.
I don't think they've defined what they consider heavy users yet. It must be pretty low to include 5% of data users.
An even better option would be data buckets, where your unused data rollsover. I've gone near the 200mb cap quite a few times since the default settings cleverly turn off wifi when the phone sleeps :rollseyes:
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"Demographic Research" is why we have the 2gb plan in the first place.
That's why I believe the unlimited plan will be eventually phased out also. Yea, their offering the unlimited plan again, but to me that's mostly PR to get more customers because cases like this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/04/verizon-breaks-first-day-sales-record-with-iphone-4-pre-orders/ I don't really know how truthful that is, since corporate tend to inflate stats for the press.
But competition is good for the consumers, as long as both these billion dollar companies are in high competition, it should be easier on the wallet for us. Hoping...but still believe they are ripping us off as consumers (and I will keep the reasons why to myself, I've seen what it did to the other threads )
These are all opinions, and I take your posts as opinions. So...can we keep this civil. The other threads I've seen regarding this subject matter tend to get heated, which I do avoid (I have enough drama in my life
I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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I don't think the limited plan is a bad idea, but I do see the amount going up and up. Since mobile internet access will exceed home internet access in the future, in my opinion. Which in turn costing us more and more.
As richb500 said, it is important to follow this and see what AT$T does.
When I was following the Fuze/Tilt2 forums it was pointed out that the is no true unlimited plan. The plan is called unlimited but in the TOS it states that over 5G of data transfered ATT can terminate your service.
All carriers have that clause in their respective TOS.
I have the old unlimited plan and have gone ovef 5G once but repeated go over 4G and never got any warning messages about my use.
Just a word of caution.
Sprint seems to be very loose with enforcement. A co-worker has an EVO and uses upwards of 20G a month using it has a hotspot and has never been warned about abusive use which is again in the Sprint TOS.
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There will be a day that even the grandfathered unlimited plan will be terminated one way or another. AT&T's network congestion means it should never offered unlimited plan to begin with.
Verizon actually made it clear, even though it offer unlimited for new iPhone users, top 5% of the data users will be throttled. I sense AT&T will soon follow suit.
If 2GB is not enough for you today, you're on the way to be throttled soon.
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shouldn't have to terminate it.
if they weren't greedy and shortsighted they could get most to move over voluntarily with the right incentives.
For Example - Anyone with unlimited who is willing to Renew a new 2 year contract on their voice and take a capped data plan gets to choose any At&t Phone @ no cost with the upgrade. Couple this with informing users that stay on the unlimited they will face throttling if it is abused....(soft cap of 5 or 6 gb).
75% or more would likely take advantage if they could get the latest phone for free (iphone, atrix, whatever else comes down the pike).
Couple it with a marketing campaign to the effect of TETHER AWAY. No charges for tether as we respect your right to use the full potential of your phone. Give 250mb data free to all smartphone users. Offer 2gb @ $25 and 4GB @ 45$ (same as tether pricing but removes the stigma and bad taste of being charged for something that costs them nothing and is a native capability of the OS/Device). Keep the $10 overage charge per every GB of data over the cap.
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I believe that the limited plans were and still are a great idea. 2 gigs is a ton of data in my opinion.I rarely every go above 1 a month and I am on my phone a fair amount. It just all depends how much data people want. and lets face it the people who want and need the unlimited plan are the 1-5% of people that killed at &ts wireless network speed by streaming 1080p content for several hours a day
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Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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francous said:
Damn you guys are making me feel like I have a problem lol...
I go over 2 gigs almost every month and have to pay the additional 10$ for another gig..came to the point I have to turn off my data and use it only when I need to just to stay under.. (when I'm not home under wifi)
Il trade with you unlimited ppl any day!
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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Do you have your wifi set to never turn off? A lot of people think they're safe at home on their wifi... But as soon as the screen turns off, so does the wifi. They default this way to save battery.
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
Good for us consumers, but anyone that is like me that uses 1GB a day with ease "when you are at work with nothing better to do then surf the net, and watch movies" it becomes a problem, lucky I have unlimited data though and I don't see why they don't sell it to more customers because most who have it don't use nearly that much so its extra money in the pocket
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mine stays on all the time.. but i turn my Data Off while my wifi is on so if wifi were to cut out it wouldnt use my data anyway
UPDATE: i called AT&T just for kicks to see if there were a unlimited data plan no one knew about.. turns out there isnt for us smartphone customers but there is for NON Smartphone customers because they use less data.. wtf..
Can we LIE and say we are not a smartphone, say we're on some ol' school slidey phone or something and get that plan!? lol..
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The unlimited data plan offering is not official, and I don't think customer service will know anything until Verizon iphone official launch date. What I've been reading (ex.) http://www.zdnet.com/blog/apple/at-t-quietly-matching-vzws-unlimited-data-plan-for-iphone/9317
But this is only a business move, in my opinion, since there are certain criteria you must meet to get back the unlimited plan.
And for your question: No you can't lie about not having a smartphone, when actually you are using a smartphone, they will know.

What do you think about at&t?

I've read a lot of post about at&t being a terrible network and blah blah blah. I want your opinion on it. I've been with at&t for a long time. I've been with them when was 'Cingular'. Now I've noticed since the atrix and inspire have came out, my network has been very inconsistent. Are you noticing this too? And is it enough to make you switch?
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I'm generally happy with speeds and service. Minus the major spots (JFK, LAX, any sporting event) i've never had issues.
I too have been with them since cingular. I have noticed no change. Its the same service I had with my iphone. /Shrug
Ppl were complaining when I had that too But as far as Data was concerned it always worked. i could Stream movies or Sirius any time all day/night.
Still do/can. I don't use the phone part of my cell phones tho so I may have a skewed opinion. I think I currently have 4000+ Roll Over minutes
Ya if I paid for my bill id switch ATT sucks ass ill be on Verizon when my dad makes me start paying
ATT is a bunch of crooks I don't know why my dad puts up with it always some extra charges on there and they never take it off my dad had to call 3 times to get the 9.99 for ATT navigator off my line I kept telling my dad my phone doesn't even have that stupid app cuz I deleted all the bloatware
My girlfriend also works for a ATT call center and they teach them to slam and cram peoples accounts because they think no one will notice the goverment should of never let them buy out t mobile.
ATT got ride of there unlimited plan luckily im grandfathered in
But they put a cap on t mobile unlimited plan after they bought it I think its 5gb then u just get super slow speeds after that
There a giant corperation and there hungry for nickels and dimes
I suggest everyone who pUsh there ATT bill to take a close look at it
Oh one more thing there home dsl internet has a cap on it also 150 gb a month most people won't hit that ya bit if you have netflix streaming you'll hit it every month in my opinion alkida needs to pit there focus on blowing ATT up and not towers
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Ya if I paid for my bill id switch ATT sucks ass ill be on Verizon when my dad makes me start paying
ATT is a bunch of crooks I don't know why my dad puts up with it always some extra charges on there and they never take it off my dad had to call 3 times to get the 9.99 for ATT navigator off my line I kept telling my dad my phone doesn't even have that stupid app cuz I deleted all the bloatware
My girlfriend also works for a ATT call center and they teach them to slam and cram peoples accounts because they think no one will notice the goverment should of never let them buy out t mobile.
ATT got ride of there unlimited plan luckily im grandfathered in
But they put a cap on t mobile unlimited plan after they bought it I think its 5gb then u just get super slow speeds after that
There a giant corperation and there hungry for nickels and dimes
I suggest everyone who pUsh there ATT bill to take a close look at it
Oh one more thing there home dsl internet has a cap on it also 150 gb a month most people won't hit that ya bit if you have netflix streaming you'll hit it every month in my opinion alkida needs to pit there focus on blowing ATT up and not towers
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Wow that was so hard to read I think My brain vomited.
ATT has not been approved to buy T-Mobile yet.....Altho they will most likely get it.
Alkida? My God what the hell......
There, their, and they're.
There is a place. Like hey i am going over there.
Then we have the word Their, It shows possession. Like that is theirs.
We also have they're or, they are. As is they’re over there, you can see their car. See these, ............ .. . . . .<--- these are the periods you left out of your entire post.
Verizon and att both have subpar performance for price. Generally all American providers are horrible.
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Wow that was so hard to read I think My brain vomited.
ATT has not been approved to buy T-Mobile yet.....Altho they will most likely get it.
Alkida? My God what the hell......
There, their, and they're.
There is a place. Like hey i am going over there.
Then we have the word Their, It shows possession. Like that is theirs.
We also have they're or, they are. As is they’re over there, you can see their car. See these, ............ .. . . . .<--- these are the periods you left out of your entire post.
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Lol. I'm trying to remember if this is the same poster I had punctuation issues with recently.
Txts alot, was the excuse, I believe. I wonder if teachers/professors accept that as a valid reason these days.
I'm sad with the speeds I get overall with ATT but I'm in a contract. Plus the phones are fun
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It's the same person LOL i don't use periods on my phone if i was on a computer that would be a different story haha
Your lucky my phone didn't auto correct to something else I sent my boss a text one day and was trying to spell kati yet somehow it became marijuana let's just say I don't work there any more bahaha
ATT is very dirty you should hear half the stories my girlfriend tells me when she gets home
One person had 600$ in long distance charges all because they didn't have a 5$ a month plan
And the worst part is the lady didn't make any of the calls someone tapped into her line and wracked all that up here's another one
Customer calls and complains that he's being charged overages inhospitable cell phone bill for data when he presumed he had unlimited turns out some store employee changed his account to the 4gb plan when he came into the store to add a line. Theres a period ROFL bahahaha
Sorry but any company that puts a limit in the internet is f'd up in my book whether or not its cell phone or home phone its just flat out ridiculous PERIOD
And for anyone with ATT home service I bet you got a lil 5$ a month service line protection plan on your bill and I bet if you ask to remove it'll still be there or it will be back in a matter of time.
They teach their (yes I do know the difference ) employees to slam and cram all kinds of Crap service plan just one of many little extra charges you will catch on your bill
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It's the same person LOL i don't use periods on my phone if i was on a computer that would be a different story haha
Your lucky my phone didn't auto correct to something else I sent my boss a text one day and was trying to spell kati yet somehow it became marijuana let's just say I don't work there any more bahaha
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I don't know why, but I like you. Haha
Are you sure because I've already seen tmobile - ATT comercials on tv about there merge
Awwww thats sweet
I'm gonna hit your thanks button
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Thanks for all the replys guys but i won't be switching anytime soon because in my area (southern California) I have good signal and decent speeds. Sprint doesnt have good signal(in my area), Verizon is too expensive for me and t mobile isnt in the picture. When at&t and t mobile merge fully, we will be the national largest 4G network so why switch now?
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I really haven't had any problems out of them. Of course, I'm not the one paying the bill either. Lol. If I have a problem my mother-in-law can get it corrected with no questions asked. If I was using mobile data more than WiFi, my speeds wouldn't be that drastically different. D/l speeds are around 3.5 mbps, both mobile and WiFi. U/l speeds are 1.5 mbps on mobile, and .3 mbps on WiFi. I had iWireless prior to being added to the account, which runs on the Sprint network, and out here in T county TN, Sprint's service is terrible. With ATT, I actually get service at places that Sprint doesn't cover. My opinion is, after researching plan options from ATT and Verizon, that with the new data plans, Verizon is the most money hungry carrier of em all. 100 dollars for 5gbs per month? At least ATT you get 2gbs for only 30 dollars. With the options we currently have with ATT, if we got the same thing with Verizon, we would be charged over 300 dollars a month.
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I really haven't had any problems out of them. Of course, I'm not the one paying the bill either. Lol. If I have a problem my mother-in-law can get it corrected with no questions asked. If I was using mobile data more than WiFi, my speeds wouldn't be that drastically different. D/l speeds are around 3.5 mbps, both mobile and WiFi. U/l speeds are 1.5 mbps on mobile, and .3 mbps on WiFi. I had iWireless prior to being added to the account, which runs on the Sprint network, and out here in T county TN, Sprint's service is terrible. With ATT, I actually get service at places that Sprint doesn't cover. My opinion is, after researching plan options from ATT and Verizon, that with the new data plans, Verizon is the most money hungry carrier of em all. 100 dollars for 5gbs per month? At least ATT you get 2gbs for only 30 dollars. With the options we currently have with ATT, if we got the same thing with Verizon, we would be charged over 300 dollars a month.
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Agreed. And yours is $30 for 2gb? Here you get 2gb for $25, but I have unlimited and I havent seen my unlimited data being capped
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There has been no big change. Been with AT&T since 2000>>Cingular>>AT&T. If anything this backhaul thing is an improvement in my area. I get good customer service, albeit with Enterprise Customer Care...and yes they still try to cram stuff I don't need at me. I think most sales peeps are like that. I just take it upon myself to withstand the onslaught. There have been times I have found stuff on my bill that I didn't want / believe I asked for. Just call them up, and they have retro'd my bill every time with usually no fuss, and usually an apology. I can be down with that. Due diligence and direct/firm/clear and not a-holish communication goes a long ways in my experience...
Lol. Too funny
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meiguoguizi said:
There has been no big change. Been with AT&T since 2000>>Cingular>>AT&T. If anything this backhaul thing is an improvement in my area. I get good customer service, albeit with Enterprise Customer Care...and yes they still try to cram stuff I don't need at me. I think most sales peeps are like that. I just take it upon myself to withstand the onslaught. There have been times I have found stuff on my bill that I didn't want / believe I asked for. Just call them up, and they have retro'd my bill every time with usually no fuss, and usually an apology. I can be down with that. Due diligence and direct/firm/clear and not a-holish communication goes a long ways in my experience...
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One thing I forgot to mention. The great customer service
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I don't know why, but I like you. Haha
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I know why after looking at your post in that other thread a couple up from this one...
Your "blowy removed" is an instant cult classic.
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Agreed. And yours is $30 for 2gb? Here you get 2gb for $25, but I have unlimited and I havent seen my unlimited data being capped
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Yeah, $30 is how much they charge us for the 2gb plan around here, which is around the Memphis area. I've just got the $15 200mb data plan as I only use data on WiFi exclusively. You have the "true" unlimited that ATT used to have. Users who had the plan back in their iPhone days, prior to upgrading to the Inspire, won't see their unlimited data capped. I think they feel it would be bad business to cap the data of former and current iPhone users with the old unlimited data plan. Good thing you got it when they still offered it.
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The only reason I use ATT is because it works at every military base i've been to where other phone companies don't. That being said I will be jumping to verizon once my contract is up haha
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Att/LTE observation

Ok so I have been reading different post on several message boards and forums about how Att is the Devil for throttling there grandfathered Unlimited customers. Now, you would think coming from Sprint only four months ago I would be siding with these customers but thats not the case.
I started with Spint in 2008 and for the first two years it was great. Then came Android. Now I love Android, but after people really started getting into android and mobile browsing, and then with the introduction of the HTC Hero and definetly after the Htc Evo data speeds dropped significanltly. I went from Youtube videos loading fast to them taking up to 30 seconds to load short videos. Wimax was an even bigger joke, my Iphone 4s which I returned for the Skyrocket yielded higher speed scores just on a Hspa+ network.
Now everyone wants to praise Verizon for allowing there customers keep their unlimited plans unthrottled. Now this is a good thing, but many speedtest that I have seen on YouTube and also today on Engadgets quick review of the new Nexus phone on Verizon, using a mifi device the Nexus got download speeds that my old Iphones 4s could easily double.
So whats the point of me writing this. Its written as a beware what you wish for story. Yes it would be nice to have anything unlimited but the truth is that many people abuse the system. I have read of people who have used up to 60 gbs of data in one month. What could you possibly be doing that would take up so much data. Im in a LTE area and last month I hit 1.4 gbs, I have wifi at home but not at work. Moreover, it really isnt fair that I am paying practically the same thing that an unlimited customer is but using far less data. An before anyone says that im just jealous not to have unlimited the fact is I really dont care who has it. But when your overendulgence of data slows down mine then we have a problem.
I get your complaint and in the same time I don't get your complaint. does it make sense?
I refuse to see it that way. As a whole we paid for the lines.. with lte its been documented the system is perfectly capable of handling all we throw at it at no additional cost.. Why penalize one who uses it more. 60gb is abuse for sure but the 5-10 range can be hit pretty easily)
It is going to be sad to see net neutrality come to an end ...its coming. We will see pay per use solely for the fact that they will make more
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Im not really complaining. Really if I was At&t I would move all Unlimited customers to a 10gb plan so they still get a lot of data but they also wont abuse it.
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Its not fair.. I use 100kb a month and I want it all for free.. Damn Att&t for not wanting to lose money!.. lol
I'm amazed they don't charge extra just for having hspa+ or lte. My Cox internet at home is tiered by speed. I would have thought they would have implemented a pricing system similar by now.
Yeah I think that's how most home internet providers do it. I'm on att uverse and I believe I have the 10 mbps plan. The problem with a cell phone company trying to do this is they can't always guarantee the speed your going to get because it varies by your location.
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I am just learning about/reading about net neutrality so I could be way off here ...but I "think" the FCC prevents them from billing wireless this way (by speed)
If and when that changes (lots of speculation it will) it is speculated we will see tiers based off usage AND speed
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I'm amazed they don't charge extra just for having hspa+ or lte. My Cox internet at home is tiered by speed. I would have thought they would have implemented a pricing system similar by now.
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AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L

AT&T Clarifies Its Policy On Data Throttling, Allows 5GB Of Unaltered Data Flow For L
With mobile data usage continuing to skyrocket and the availability of spectrum scarce, AT&T, like other wireless companies, manages its network in the most fair way possible so that we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience for all our customers.
How we’re managing the network only affects a small minority of the heaviest smartphone data users still on unlimited plans. Put another way, this does not impact more than 95 percent of our smartphone customers.
Our unlimited plan customers have told us they want more clarity around how the program works and what they can expect. Here’s what customers need to know:
Customers with a 3G or 4G smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – will see speeds reduced if they use 3GB (gigabytes) of data or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle. For context, less than 5 percent of smartphone customers use more than 3GB per month.
For customers with a 4G LTE smartphone – who also still have our unlimited data plan – data speeds will be reduced if usage is 5GB (gigabytes) or more in a billing cycle. Speeds will return to normal at the start of the next billing cycle
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Customers will get a text message from us before experiencing a change in speed.
Even with reduced data speeds, these customers will still be able to email and surf the web, and continue to use an unlimited amount of data each month.
Not impacted by this program, launched last year, are customers on our tiered data plans.
The reason reduced speeds only apply to unlimited smartphone customers is because their data usage is significantly higher than those on tiered plans. For example, in January, the top 5 percent of our unlimited data plan customers used an average of over 50 percent more data than the top 5 percent of customers on tiered plans.
Because spectrum is limited and data usage continues to soar, we manage our network this way to be as fair as possible and so we can provide the best possible mobile broadband experience to everyone.
We encourage all of our customers to use Wi-Fi whenever possible – especially when watching video, which is the most data-intensive activity.
That’s because data activity over Wi-Fi does not count against the threshold for unlimited customers that triggers reduced data speeds or against customers’ tiered data plans. Customers can find out more at www.att.com/datainfo
But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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But some people were getting throttled even when they didn't go over 3gb. I believe they shouldn't throttle for the whole billing cycle. Only when someone is abusing it when there's a lot of traffic in the network, and restore it after that period. But that would probably require a lot of work. I dunno just my opinion.
Never been throttled, I don't use a lot of data.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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It's still bull. I bought my phone because AT&T said that I was buying a 4G phone and said I was told how fast it was.
They put YouTube, a web browser, an email app and a text messaging app, just to name a few, on my phone.
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You're still getting unlimited data. When you signed up, did the contract guarantee you unlimited data at speeds greater than or equal to XXmb/s, or just unlimited data?
Maybe a better way to "CLARIFY" is to change the Plan name from UNlimited to " LIMITED "
That would clear it all up would'nt it?
Geez....ATT you are way too big.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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Lol and how will it change my opinion? Oh well. Like I said, I don't use that much data anyways.
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Did you read it?? That all just changed.
Well.. That sucks. Only one month did I use 6 gigs. Typically don't use over 1 though. Meh. Let the angry comments come in. I'd be pissed if there wasn't wifi at my house, and I lived in good cell reception, and depended on it. ATT.. You're full of crap.
Atleast LTE users get a break. I'll get an LTE phone next time around the block.
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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no reading for most people is pretty freaking hard
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Evidently... Lol. Still think it's horse****. I might actually think about Verizon... WOW.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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using data with limited speed is NOT unlimited.
using data with limited speed BY hardware specs, however, is different.
basically, people should just sue att for false advertisement.
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
Hmmm.. So what's the default APN on LTE??
I just wanted to throw it out there.. I will probably look this up later myself..
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yea because its in the contract you sign that they the right to throttle you and any point they choose too
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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Hmm.. Didn't sign a contract. Though I did feel the need for an iPhone 2g for a few hours.. While I had my infuse and somehow almost used up my whole 2 gigs in 2 days. Something went funky with ATT servers.. Or the infuse. Lol.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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So you're saying that you have no service agreement with them?
Then you shouldn't be complaining.
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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So what qualifies as a "LTE phone"? Is the Infuse not an LTE phone??
And does anyone know if this 3GB cap just started?
Because this month I got throttled at 2040mb ... which is... roughly.. 2GB.. right.
I think 5GB sounds fair for an "unlimited" (limited) plan.
I would never go over that!... 3GB... I hover around that every month for sure.
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No
Today
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Me too
Cool...
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No. Lol. There's a flaw where if you had the original iphone then you could set it up in iTunes and get unlimited data.
In two days, at the beginning of a cycle, when I was on my 2 gig planned (had just got the phone a month or two before..) It decided to go through the roof with my usage. 2 gigs. 2 days...
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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So you do have a service agreement. A contract. I can guarantee that if you've gotten a subsidized phone from them since your iPhone that you either signed or clicked through a new contract binding you to updated agreements but keeping your unlimited plan.
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Probably when I finished setting it up in iTunes, it sealed the dev. Idk. Whatever. My contract expires next year. ill have this phone for a while, and keep the plan. And then onto the next phone..
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Here's the deal. Less than 5% of AT&T users have unlimited data. They want the unlimited people gone. They are trying to monetize power-users while managing bandwidth (which is a finite resource) to keep the average users happy. If you had a business and had to choose between keeping 5% of your customers happy, or 95% of your customers happy... you would make the same choice. These decisions aren't about the users today... it's about 2015 when the average smartphone user will use alot more data... and there will be more smartphone users.... etc, etc.
Not saying I condone these decisions... but after all they are a business. They have a finite resource (bandwidth) and have to make as much profit as possible with that finite resource. Bandwidth doesn't grow on trees, and neither does money. End of story.

Post your unlimited data usage thus far!

I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I've had this phone less than 2 weeks, grandfathered into vzw unlimited data. Needless to say I think vzw is going to hate me...
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I'm on virgin in canada and last month i used 42gb on my unlimited plan...
no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
I'm only at about 1g use right now, work and home wifi (poor signal area) has been keeping my mobile data use down since I got this phone. I'll probably use about 3gigs next month though. Btw, I can see this thread creating some tension with those who don't have unlimited.
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no fair i was on t-mobiles $20/month plan with 10gb/month and they 'changed' the plan without notice. so now i'm stuck with 5gb...
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They did the same here. I called them up and they switched me back no problem.
And the purpose of the thread is to.......??????
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Purpose of this thread....Help show why Verizon did away with unlimited data?
No wonder why they are eliminating unlimited, what the heck do you do on your phone to use 28Gb? (tethering i assume)
haha nice. last semester in college, my wired connection wasn't working so i had to 'illegally' tether my atrixs' hspa+ for a week. used about 15gb in a week to watch live streams of the us open. thank god for unlimited data
with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Not too bad methinks..
I have to laugh at all the people who say a few of us who use high amounts of data is why a carrier will remove unlimited data for everyone. So they feel bitter at us for ruining it for everyone else and would rather blame us than their service provider, since its easier.
Oh please, don't you think these carriers would have just throttled or kicked off us few users, instead of forcing tiered plans on all their customers? Its all because of further maximizing profit, not because of us.
Doesn't bother me at all, I still have unlimited data just can't see how people are able to use that much data on a phone in a month.
Must have to have the phone plugged in all the time.
Most I have ever been able to do is 13 GB. I really had to try for that though.
Since July 9th.:
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Since June 24th:
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with the extra ram this phone makes actual real life data speeds sooooo much faster than my other lte phones could do. I'm at 39 gigs so far with billing cycle ending the 29th. And that's without even having the gs3 the whole time, wonder what ill get to next month? Btw no tethering here, I just really like watching HD video
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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Hey, you don't happen to live around me do you? I keep getting a busy signal trying to access the data network..
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lol yes i believe i do. luckily i elected to buy the version of the galaxy s 3 that gets preference over others on the data network so sorry i guess everyone will have to wait for me to finish my download before its their turn. best decision i ever made, and to think i actually almost bought the gs3 that you have that gives the busy signal when others are using the network. man im glad i dodged that bullet haha
all sarcasm aside, has anyone ever actually had a problem with using verizons network that can be attributed to data hogs? this isnt 2007 and im not in att using an iphone. big deal, i use a lot of data that i pay for so what. any other user on verizon canuse the exact same amoutn of data as i choose to use bc verizon doesnt throttle the 4g speeds, youll just have to pay more than my price for it. dont hate those of us lucky enough to use all the data we want without paying any overage unless you also go around hating every verizon employee for getting a company discount on the same sevice you pay for. also, those of us on verizon who no longer have the unlimited data plan have access to a discount on upgrades that the unlimited users dont have the smae access to but we sure dont go around flaming others for only having to pay $199 for our $599 phones. every thing is a trade off
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Ignore the disabled data. That was coming from my Samsung Galaxy S II. The one not discontinued is from July 5th till now.
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Yay for forced data limits/throttle in the future. Vzw doesn't guarantee any "grandfathering". It says right in the contract they can change terms on you and it gives you a free out to go to other carriers. The whole –look at what I can do is quite childish. Whatever.
Heck I use 30gb at home on Cox between two computers and a ps3 and pay for 50gb
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A guy over on the Rezound forums hit 1TB. I'm sitting at about 9GB this month.
And for the people bleating about this being why they did away with unlimited data--no. Just shut up. They did it out of pure greed. LTE is cheap, and for every person using 30gb there's 10 people using 500mb. Verizon might be losing money on some customers, but in the aggregate, they were still making money hand over fist, even with unlimited data. But they can make more with shared/tiered. Guess which they went with?
I'm normally around wifi except when I go workout so I rarely break 2gb. Even so I have no problems with data hogs. I've worked a number of years at an isp and I can tell you data hogs are not the problem unless if the network engineers are total idiots. A properly managed network will prevent heavy users from bogging down the network during peak usage.
But many of you guys buy right into the carrier's manufactured bandwidth crisis so they can justify charging $15 per gb.
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