Fresh install of cleanROM 3.0.4? - Asus Transformer TF700

So I finally bit the bullet and rooted, unlocked and flashed cleanROM on my TF700. I wiped both caches (or so I thought) but when I rebooted not much seemed to have changed. I guess I was expecting to have to completely reinstall all my apps and settings. However, all of the my apps and icons where right where I left them. Matter of fact at first I couldn't even tell anything had changed until I looked at the "about tablet" section and saw that the build version was in fact cleanROM.
Don't get me wrong, this thing seems to fly now, but I can't shake the feeling that I missed something during flashing. Was there an option I missed or should I have wiped it?
Thanks.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

No.

You did it perfectly. :good: CROMI is a stock based ROM and as such you get to keep all your data, apps and settings.The look is stock too
What you do get is root, performance tweaks (memory, zip aligned, cpu, touch sensitivity, dpi), updated Asus and google apps, extra apps installed to system, system apps removed if you didn't select them as well as other tweaks, functionality (swipe JB keyboard, smoother scrolling, faster performance, faster kernel, ad blocking) if you selected them
Make sure you install the 3.0.4 patch if you havent done so already.

I also bit the bullet today, not regretting it so far. Cleanrom is sweet!

Tlbradshaw said:
So I finally bit the bullet and rooted, unlocked and flashed cleanROM on my TF700. I wiped both caches (or so I thought) but when I rebooted not much seemed to have changed. I guess I was expecting to have to completely reinstall all my apps and settings. However, all of the my apps and icons where right where I left them. Matter of fact at first I couldn't even tell anything had changed until I looked at the "about tablet" section and saw that the build version was in fact cleanROM.
Don't get me wrong, this thing seems to fly now, but I can't shake the feeling that I missed something during flashing. Was there an option I missed or should I have wiped it?
Thanks.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Hang on you did install 3.0.3 first right?

Hi
I am really happy too with cleanrom 3.0.4, but there is one little problem. I get random reboots now and than. Can not find a reason for them. Sometimes playn a game, than reboot while reading news site in browser or a mail in anmail app.
Nothing special. Can i give someone any reports or logs so that the problem Can be located?
What are the best ways to try to solve this?
Factory reset? Or using different kernel or something?
Right now:
Tf700 with cleanRom inheritance 3.0.4
Kernel 3.1.10
[email protected] #53
Can someone give an advice?
Thx

sbdags said:
Hang on you did install 3.0.3 first right?
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Yes, I did.
Everything seems great so far.
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sbdags said:
Hang on you did install 3.0.3 first right?
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How concerned should I be about the fsync issue? Should I worry about data corruption, or the entire os getting corrupted, or just backup regularly and not worry about it?
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Garalor said:
Hi
I am really happy too with cleanrom 3.0.4, but there is one little problem. I get random reboots now and than. Can not find a reason for them. Sometimes playn a game, than reboot while reading news site in browser or a mail in anmail app.
Nothing special. Can i give someone any reports or logs so that the problem Can be located?
What are the best ways to try to solve this?
Factory reset? Or using different kernel or something?
Right now:
Tf700 with cleanRom inheritance 3.0.4
Kernel 3.1.10
[email protected] #53
Can someone give an advice?
Thx
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I also get random reboots while doing anything and of course always seems to happen when someone else is using it.

Jbb3393 said:
I also get random reboots while doing anything and of course always seems to happen when someone else is using it.
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Which kernal are you using? Fsync Disabled?
Reinstall the rom but choose the stock Asus tf700 kernel. Does it still reboot? Did you update to the jelly bean bootloader from asus first?

sbdags said:
Which kernal are you using? Fsync Disabled?
Reinstall the rom but choose the stock Asus tf700 kernel. Does it still reboot? Did you update to the jelly bean bootloader from asus first?
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I believe I'm using the 1.5... The one below the highest. almost too many options but fsync enabled. Yes I did update bootloader and I will have to reflash later not at the tablet at the moment.

Does disabling Fsync really speed things up? What is the likely hood of things going wrong?

My benchmarks where off the charts! In the 7000's using Quandrant and like 20 seconds using sql light. Also, I noticed transferring files from the memory card to the tablet was much faster.
Even though benchmarks are nice, it's real world performance that counts. The whole reason I unlocked and flashed was because I was tired of waiting 3 to 5 seconds for the apps to start loading when I selected then. Now they start so much faster. Not as fast as my razr hd maxx, but one can dream.
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Has anyone noticed if the lag/skipping when playing mp3's from either the sd card or internal memory still occurs after all the tweaks in this rom? Speaking for me, that is my biggest complaint with my device. I can deal with the few extra seconds to open an app but can't stand to hear music skip every 15-30 seconds.

fsured said:
Has anyone noticed if the lag/skipping when playing mp3's from either the sd card or internal memory still occurs after all the tweaks in this rom? Speaking for me, that is my biggest complaint with my device. I can deal with the few extra seconds to open an app but can't stand to hear music skip every 15-30 seconds.
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Never had this, even with the stock ROM. This is not normal, check for CPU-intensive or I/O-intensive background processes.

fsured said:
Has anyone noticed if the lag/skipping when playing mp3's from either the sd card or internal memory still occurs after all the tweaks in this rom? Speaking for me, that is my biggest complaint with my device. I can deal with the few extra seconds to open an app but can't stand to hear music skip every 15-30 seconds.
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_that said:
Never had this, even with the stock ROM. This is not normal, check for CPU-intensive or I/O-intensive background processes.
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It would also be good to know which music player. I definitely don't have this problem. But what are you doing at the same time as listening to music?

Garalor said:
Hi
I am really happy too with cleanrom 3.0.4, but there is one little problem. I get random reboots now and than. Can not find a reason for them. Sometimes playn a game, than reboot while reading news site in browser or a mail in anmail app.
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I'd recommend starting off with the stock kernel. It could be that your TF700 can't handle the overclocking. I would also definitely keep fsync enable until you solve the random reboots, otherwise you could end up with some nasty corruption. Personally, other than benchmarks, I didn't notice a difference with fsync enabled or disabled. Even though my TF700 is able to handle overclocking, I'm now back to using stock kernel and the TF700 still performs extremely well with CleanROM 3.0.4. This may change once Clemsyn re-compiles his kernels with the latest Asus sources, but for now, I'd stick with the stock kernel.
Please let us know your results if you do try this.
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hmm I'm not doing anything other than listening to the music. I have it hooked up to computer speakers when I exercise at home and work with headphones. I thought this was a common thing and someone mentioned it was caused by moments of lag. I use poweramp as the music player but also experienced it during playback using the amazon music player. I couldn't figure how to tell which folder had my music files in the google music player. It was loading everything like ring tones so I stopped using it.
I went and cleared up the media cache so the system reloads everything. I searched a previous thread and saw that suggested for someone having issues getting their pc to see the files when it was connected. Figured why not try it since I'm having a problem with media files. Rebooted and waited 10min before launching music again. Weird but it seems to have improved. There are still a few moments of lag that I'm noticing but nothing like before. I'm going to keep playing music in the background and see if it gets worse or goes away. Think I will just take the plunge with a unlock and try cleanROM if it doesn't go away entirely.
Thanks
-balanced power mode, no other apps running
-poweramp or amazon player (I will try google music app also)
-volume+

fsured said:
hmm I'm not doing anything other than listening to the music. I have it hooked up to computer speakers when I exercise at home and work with headphones. I thought this was a common thing and someone mentioned it was caused by moments of lag. I use poweramp as the music player but also experienced it during playback using the amazon music player. I couldn't figure how to tell which folder had my music files in the google music player. It was loading everything like ring tones so I stopped using it.
I went and cleared up the media cache so the system reloads everything. I searched a previous thread and saw that suggested for someone having issues getting their pc to see the files when it was connected. Figured why not try it since I'm having a problem with media files. Rebooted and waited 10min before launching music again. Weird but it seems to have improved. There are still a few moments of lag that I'm noticing but nothing like before. I'm going to keep playing music in the background and see if it gets worse or goes away. Think I will just take the plunge with a unlock and try cleanROM if it doesn't go away entirely.
Thanks
-balanced power mode, no other apps running
-poweramp or amazon player (I will try google music app also)
-volume+
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Hang on you are not using CleanROM or CleanROM Inheritance? Why have you posted your issues in this thread then? No wonder we are confused about your issues
Yes the stock Asus rom has many i/o problems. You can solve most of them by installing a custom rom.

I was simply asking if anyone had experienced the issue using a CleanRom install before going through the process. Not trying to troubleshoot or solve it. With many things the rom fixes no one might have realized this being corrected. I will be unlocking and installing the rom soon. I apologize for asking the question and wasn't trying to highjack the original post. Mods feel free to delete my posts.

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[Q] General performance question...

I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
I bought my tf300 yesterday, and couldn't be happier. I unlocked it and installed aokp this morning and things have been great. Haven't noticed any lag viewing webpages, youtube, music etc. I've been very happy with this tabIet, as it's my first one. I believe aokp allows you to overclock to 1.5ghz (obviously it drains batteries a little bit more) but even on the stock asus rom, i encountered no lag whatsoever.
as shocking as it might be to know..i have not yet rooted the tf300t. i've been using it for over a month now..i got it the week that it came out..and i've happy with it. every once in a while you will see a "freeze" for now reason. It does seem to freeze more on startup because it is trying to do several things at once (like update gmail, corporate account, and sync up other things). But after that it is really smooth.
I was talking to another friend about this and he managed to hunt down someone else having similar issues to me and Asus declared their product to be defective, issue a new one, which works "flawlessly". I guess it's back to Office Depot I go. I refuse to let Apple win.
Hopefully you get a working one, I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. The aokp rom is quick and fun to use, and I refuse to ever own apple products. Go android!
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago , and it freezes one or 2 times , but in general works great , didn't unlocked and changed to custom roms yet but will in future , but for now i am loving it
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Have it now for 6+ weeks. Stock/rooted. Works like a champ. Good tablet apps are the issue, not the tab. No way you should have the issues you do.
Still Charged Up
Nice performance
Got mine 3 weeks before. unlocked it and rooted from the second day, i am really happy from the latest update the us.30 for me. i dont experience any lag or freezes or force closes at all. The performance is better but it always depends on the owner.
I found useful to install an app called autostarts (needs root) that prevents apps from being loaded at any time u use your device.
For example i cant understand why google play store must open when i remove an application. With this program i prevent things from loading at startup of the device, so i have a quicker startup time and i know that no other apps are in use when i dont need them and only working is the app that i use.
U can see what apps are runnig at any time with a task manager or something relevant.
So as i say before the performance of a device depends also on the owner.
I bought 2 tf300's, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Mine has Cyanogenmod 9 on it, hers has stock (.30 firmware).
I will say that mine is noticeably faster, Chrome doesn't lag hardly ever, hers freezes up a lot more.
You should be careful about some apps too, Facebook in my opinion is the worst. That app will cause your phone/tablet to lag like nothing else, as soon as I uninstalled Facebook on my girlfriends tablet it was like a brand new machine (though still not quite as fast as CM 9)
strakajagr said:
I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
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I was having this issue also and was getting pretty fed up with it.
However, after doing a reset on the device it works perfectly now. Resetting the device formats the primary partition and takes it back to stock (keeping firmware updates). You can get to this option by turning the device off and holding the volume down button when powering on and it should be the second option. This stopped the force closes and lags with my TF300T
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Charle692 said:
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Yeah. Seanz' Hydro rom makes stock appear laggy and unresponsive my device was running slow before the. 30 firmware update.
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The lag is mostly happening due to the I/O scheduler in the kernel. We probably won't see the true performance on this tablet until we get a custom kernel. The source is on ASUS's website but no kernel hackers have this device. The lag only shows when mounting and un mounting SD cards, writing to SD cards/NAND and downloading/updating Play store apps.
The only fix I know so far is to go find a SIO scheduler from the Transformer Prime's forum and install it. I did that and the lag went away but looking at benchmarks for I/O schedulers (noop vs SIO), noop has lag but higher scores and SIO has very little or no lag with lower scores.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27948613
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[Q] To Data2SD or not to Data2SD...

I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
GigaSPX said:
I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
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Personally I think CROMI with browser2ram resolves most io problems.
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If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late?
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No, you can switch to it whenever you want in the future without any restrictions.
Sbdags and _that are much, much more knowledgeable than teeny me, but I also think CROMI currently solves most problems that the 700 had at launch time. Some I/O issue will remain under the surface, but it's been fair sailing so far for me (admittedly, I did not have that much issue with it anyway ).
I tried getting data2sd to work -- curiosity finally won over cautiousness -- but I could not, for the love of all that is holy, get it work properly, at least not in the first six tries. Minitool ruined my microSD card, although Gparted was able to recover it. <phew> I then proceeded to install data2sd. Although apparently correctly installed, I noticed very little benefit.
As I said, it could be speculated that my microSD card is screwy (I'm shopping around for a new Sandisk 32 or 64 GB Class 10), and I would have nothing to base a denial on. A better card might have shown a tremendous degree of improvement, making me use my 700 so intensely that I'd drain all available power from the one nuclear power station in the Netherlands, making it melt-down all the way to China, making them retaliate, thus ending the world a few days late.
I doubt the latter, however, and will stick with CROMI as it is. Just great.
I use my tabby for the internet. Mail, youtube, browsing. Clean Rom and browser2ram has eliminated my io troubles. In fact, i'm running CR 2.72 and haven't bothered to upgrade because i just don't feel the need.
Plenty of folks have had luck with data2sd. I was not one of them. With two different cards, i had similiar results. It wouldn't run reliably for more than an hour.
Ologn said:
I use my tabby for the internet. Mail, youtube, browsing. Clean Rom and browser2ram has eliminated my io troubles. In fact, i'm running CR 2.72 and haven't bothered to upgrade because i just don't feel the need.
Plenty of folks have had luck with data2sd. I was not one of them. With two different cards, i had similiar results. It wouldn't run reliably for more than an hour.
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Probably not done right. I could do data2sd over and over again with my eyes closed and worked everytime!
i luv d2sd
buhohitr said:
Probably not done right. I could do data2sd over and over again with my eyes closed and worked everytime!
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haha, i even used minitools and it still worked!...
i am still using the tweaked recovery from fordwolden's thread and luv it!
downloading 2gb games and still surfin, grab a torrent,update apps,blah,blah..
yeh,sometimes you go too far and stop for 5sec: overall :good:
mine is permanent and just waiting for cards to catch up to ram/bus/cpu ,etc
I can now look into this, as my 64GB UHS-1 Sandisks arrived yesterday. They're now installed in the Infinity, and I want to play.
Soon enough, though, I might unlock and try Cromi....
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I'm somewhat convinced about using CROMI. I've tried browsing around, and I'm not sure I'm getting anywhere with finding a thread that discloses all details about it. If someone can link me the details, I would really appreciate it!
GigaSPX said:
I'm somewhat convinced about using CROMI. I've tried browsing around, and I'm not sure I'm getting anywhere with finding a thread that discloses all details about it. If someone can link me the details, I would really appreciate it!
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Here you go bro: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2049274
GigaSPX said:
I have read a lot of the I/O bottleneck problems about the TF700, and using Data2SD is the best alternative the development has to offer to solve this.
The question I have of concern is whether I should do this now or later? I have gotten myself a new replacement of the TF700, and successfully rooted, unlocked, and Inherited the Clean ROM Inheritance. Doing this is something I'm not sure I want to do now considering the internal is still running pretty okay right now.
If I do wait it out and then decide to do this, would it be too late? I'm just wondering would I get optimal speed of performance once utilize the Data2SD after the degradation of the internal?
Thanks.
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I still get lag when downloading apps in particular when its trying to install after it downloads. Also transition lag in opening apps is still there as well as scrolling though the recent app list but mainly when youre in the home screen or again while apps are installing. Games still lag as well from time to time. But games do open faster.
The only advantage I see with the data2sd is app opens slightly faster like heavy HD games. IMO data2sd is not a must if you're already running CROMI as it doesn't make a lot of difference.
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aznmode said:
I still get lag when downloading apps in particular when its trying to install after it downloads. Also transition lag in opening apps is still there as well as scrolling though the recent app list but mainly when youre in the home screen or again while apps are installing. Games still lag as well from time to time. But games do open faster.
The only advantage I see with the data2sd is app opens slightly faster like heavy HD games. IMO data2sd is not a must if you're already running CROMI as it doesn't make a lot of difference.
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I felt pretty newbie asking about what CROMI is when I didn't realize it stands for Clean ROM Inheritance. Not only that, but I also have Browser2RAM installed not too long ago.
Anyway, I really don't have any HD Games to boot into my tablet yet since I don't see a lot of choices offered in my interest. If doing data2sd really isn't of importance, then I guess my question is resolved. Thanks guys!

ViperXL 3.2.8 Lag problem

I haven't had any problems for the longest time.. but......
well my problem is very random. recently i have picked up lag. for the longest time the ROM was nothing but smoothness. now there is lag. i reboot it and it goes away and shows up the next day.
i took the extreme measure of wiping everything and reflashing the ROM. but still I am encountering the same. Oh and I am "Stock" on minfree settings in Venom tweaks
Did anyone of you experience this as well? While rebooting is not a big deal,i would rather not do it. Any help is hugely appreciated!
Thank you....
Lag issues have been discussed on the ViperXL thread quite a bit. Just search the thread using the term "lagfix".
redpoint73 said:
Lag issues have been discussed on the ViperXL thread quite a bit. Just search the thread using the term "lagfix".
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Thanks Redpoint.
I downloaded the lagfix app. it finishes running in under 1/2 a minute but it doesn't seem to fix the issue. I just backup-ed and restored the ROM. not sure if the lag will show up tomorrow.
Someone did suggest un-checking the infinite scrolling in Venom Tweaks, Let's see if it fixes it.
If your SD card is pretty full, this will also cause lag on ViperXL, and some other JB ROMs. If you have less than 1 or 2 GB free, try clearing up your SD card.
I also have this problem and only on viper and it starts a few hours after install I can't seem to do anything to fix it so I have given up on the Rom
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redpoint73 said:
If your SD card is pretty full, this will also cause lag on ViperXL, and some other JB ROMs. If you have less than 1 or 2 GB free, try clearing up your SD card.
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Thanks Redpoint. I have 9GB free on my SD card. But to report on what I see in the past 24 hours - no lag whatsoever after the backup and restore routine.
Another thing which I did was uninstalled Bulletproof Kernel. For some reason, I feel my phone is more reliable with the stock kernel and I do not know much about the kernels to try Elemental.
EDIT1: Sad to report that the lag when scrolling between screens has returned. running lagfix did not help
I had the same problem. Full wiped, flashed 3.2.7 then 3.2.8 update. Stock kernel, uptime of 36 days and still fast as hell.
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00Scott00 said:
I had the same problem. Full wiped, flashed 3.2.7 then 3.2.8 update. Stock kernel, uptime of 36 days and still fast as hell.
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When you say full-wipe, did you wipe the storage and android secure? or just the Cache, Dalvik Cache, Factory Reset and System?
PS Rooting for the Aussies to thrash the Pommies.
Do you use Google+ on your phone? I have discovered that, if you open Google+ and do as much as BROWSE your photos swiping left or right to go next/previous, it will trigger major lag, especially on home screen,until you reboot.
Its a pretty major bug that happens on Sense. I have to browse my photos by only looking at thumbnail view and opening by tapping on them. No swiping left or right or it will trigger the bug and it gets pretty bad.
EliWay said:
Do you use Google+ on your phone? I have discovered that, if you open Google+ and do as much as BROWSE your photos swiping left or right to go next/previous, it will trigger major lag, especially on home screen,until you reboot.
Its a pretty major bug that happens on Sense. I have to browse my photos by only looking at thumbnail view and opening by tapping on them. No swiping left or right or it will trigger the bug and it gets pretty bad.
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Thanks. unfortunately, i did not use google+.. i just flashed cyanogenmod nightlies and it is buttery smooth. not sure what is causing the lag in ViperXL. and i absolutely love ViperXL.. it has always been good to me. I just wiped everything in the "Wipe" menu and restored it using Nandroid back-up..
and have been getting lags ever since...
sriramll said:
I just wiped everything in the "Wipe" menu and restored it using Nandroid back-up..
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Restoring a nandroid basically negates the wipes you just did (aside from maybe wipe cache).
sriramll said:
I haven't had any problems for the longest time.. but......
well my problem is very random. recently i have picked up lag. for the longest time the ROM was nothing but smoothness. now there is lag. i reboot it and it goes away and shows up the next day.
i took the extreme measure of wiping everything and reflashing the ROM. but still I am encountering the same. Oh and I am "Stock" on minfree settings in Venom tweaks
Did anyone of you experience this as well? While rebooting is not a big deal,i would rather not do it. Any help is hugely appreciated!
Thank you....
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Are you running a custom kernel? If you're using ElementalX, do NOT enable zram. Disabling zram and changing minfree to stock completely rid my phone of any lag whatsoever.
I'm having the exact same issue with Viper on my evita -- only swping between homescreen and exiting to home screen lags. I've seen this with Nova, Apex and Action Launcher. Reboot solves it temporarily but the lag comes back after some time, from a few hours to several days.
For me, this is literally the only issue on Viper. Rom is great on every single other aspect!
alvin612 said:
I'm having the exact same issue with Viper on my evita -- only swping between homescreen and exiting to home screen lags. I've seen this with Nova, Apex and Action Launcher. Reboot solves it temporarily but the lag comes back after some time, from a few hours to several days.
For me, this is literally the only issue on Viper. Rom is great on every single other aspect!
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So recently, I flashed stock 3.2.7 and OTAed to 3.2.8. works great. no lag whatsoever. I thought why not flash bulletproof. I flashed the 1.3 version which is on the venom hub. and you know what the lag came back.
i have heard people say this - not all devices are the same. like for some there was a navigation crashing issue and for some it worked flawlessly. (why this happens is a different discussion altogether).
So maybe our devices don't do too well with custom kernels!
First off that's an old version of the kernel.
Second, I don't suggest flashing kernels from venom hub
Factory reset should be done prior to flashing a kernel so if you did not....
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sriramll said:
So recently, I flashed stock 3.2.7 and OTAed to 3.2.8. works great. no lag whatsoever. I thought why not flash bulletproof. I flashed the 1.3 version which is on the venom hub. and you know what the lag came back.
i have heard people say this - not all devices are the same. like for some there was a navigation crashing issue and for some it worked flawlessly. (why this happens is a different discussion altogether).
So maybe our devices don't do too well with custom kernels!
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I went with the kernel that comes with Viper 3.2.7 and it still has the homescreen lag
exad said:
First off that's an old version of the kernel.
Second, I don't suggest flashing kernels from venom hub
Factory reset should be done prior to flashing a kernel so if you did not....
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exad, before i tried flashing 1.3 from the venom hub i did flash 1.4. here is the thing, i absolutely hated DTtW. my pocket detection wasn't the best and i would get random button pressing.
but here is the thing, i didn't do a factory reset before flashing the kernel. doing it now. will report back with results
EDIT: Almost immediately after installing the kernel the lag returned!
EDIT2: After a day of no lag, it returned first thing in the morning
Conclusion: No more custom kernel for me, unfortunately. At least not on Sense based ROMs

[Q] terrible lag

I've had my tf700 for about a year now but have struggled making it usable due to the awful lag it always tends to have, I have rooted, unlocked, and rommed it with cm 10.1. i also have tried using apps such as seeder and autokiller memory optimizer as they help a lot with my razr maxx but nothing seems to help it. ive done countless factory resets and done every combination of performance options baked into CM 10.1.
is there another rom i should try? or any way to allow it to use different I/O schedulers (thinking SIO) or cpu governers? (thinking smartass or interactivex) or should i try to overclock it somehow??
i just find it very sad that my OG Xoom performs superior to this "super tablet" in every single way.
i absolutely love all ASUS products and love the tf700! i just need help!
thanks for any advice
-b
bschmidy10 said:
I've had my tf700 for about a year now but have struggled making it usable due to the awful lag it always tends to have, I have rooted, unlocked, and rommed it with cm 10.1. i also have tried using apps such as seeder and autokiller memory optimizer as they help a lot with my razr maxx but nothing seems to help it. ive done countless factory resets and done every combination of performance options baked into CM 10.1.
is there another rom i should try? or any way to allow it to use different I/O schedulers (thinking SIO) or cpu governers? (thinking smartass or interactivex) or should i try to overclock it somehow??
i just find it very sad that my OG Xoom performs superior to this "super tablet" in every single way.
i absolutely love all ASUS products and love the tf700! i just need help!
thanks for any advice
-b
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you could upgrade to cm 10.2 and see if that works for you.
or just go with cromi-x rom. lots of tweaks and options, great performance and multiple kernels to choose from (with cpu governor options and overclock)
in my opinion autokiller and the so called ram optimizers dont help. sometimes i feel like they lower the performance... cromi-x already has most of these tweaks aniway.
the lag transcends all the roms I've tried so far ( stock, cm 10.1 , 10.1.2 both stable and nightlies) I don't believe 10.2 is ready for the tf700 yet? I will try chromi x soon I guess. Any special requirements? Or just flash thru twrp?
Thank for the help.
-b
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bschmidy10 said:
the lag transcends all the roms I've tried so far ( stock, cm 10.1 , 10.1.2 both stable and nightlies) I don't believe 10.2 is ready for the tf700 yet? I will try chromi x soon I guess. Any special requirements? Or just flash thru twrp?
Thank for the help.
-b
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You need to do a factory reset and flash with TWRP. Good luck.. :fingers-crossed:
thanks!! i'll let you know how it went tomorrow
*** should i just flash the deodexed rom itself? or any additional zips as well? I.E. gapps, "kernel installer 4.0.3?"
thanks again for the help guys
-b
bschmidy10 said:
thanks!! i'll let you know how it went tomorrow
*** should i just flash the deodexed rom itself? or any additional zips as well? I.E. gapps, "kernel installer 4.0.3?"
thanks again for the help guys
-b
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ODEX, DEODEX - doesn't really matter after the first apps updating. sbdags, the dev, reports DEODEX to tend to slow down after some time. I tend to stick with ODEX.
No need to flash anything else as long as you are on the 10.6.1.14.4 or .8 bootloader and TWRP 2.5 or 2.6.
The kernel installer is optional, makes it fast and easy to try different kernels.
But as mentioned before, you have to do a clean install coming from CM.
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berndblb said:
ODEX, DEODEX - doesn't really matter after the first apps updating. sbdags, the dev, reports DEODEX to tend to slow down after some time. I tend to stick with ODEX.
No need to flash anything else as long as you are on the 10.6.1.14.4 or .8 bootloader and TWRP 2.5 or 2.6.
The kernel installer is optional, makes it fast and easy to try different kernels.
But as mentioned before, you have to do a clean install coming from CM.
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sorry if im being lazy... but how do i know what bootloader im on? i know i have twrp 2.5.0.0 installed and the device is unlocked but im not sure about bootloader.
doing a clean install is no problem, but do you mean do a factory reset from TWRP or entirely wipe the whole rom slot?
and does the kernel installer flash just like the rom? and also, are GAPPS included?
thanks for the great help
-b
bschmidy10 said:
sorry if im being lazy... but how do i know what bootloader im on? i know i have twrp 2.5.0.0 installed and the device is unlocked but im not sure about bootloader.
doing a clean install is no problem, but do you mean do a factory reset from TWRP or entirely wipe the whole rom slot?
and does the kernel installer flash just like the rom? and also, are GAPPS included?
thanks for the great help
-b
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You hold the power button + volume down to boot into the bootlooader menu. In the upper left corner, you can see your bootloader version.
A clean install is mean to wipe Dalvik, Cache, Data, and system. A factory reset is mean to wipe Dalvik, Cache, and data but during the Cromi x installation, a default setting is to wipe a system which are very much the same process. Yes, a kernel installer is a very similar process except it only has kernels and no others apps.
bschmidy10 said:
sorry if im being lazy... but how do i know what bootloader im on? i know i have twrp 2.5.0.0 installed and the device is unlocked but im not sure about bootloader.
doing a clean install is no problem, but do you mean do a factory reset from TWRP or entirely wipe the whole rom slot?
and does the kernel installer flash just like the rom? and also, are GAPPS included?
thanks for the great help
-b
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I can tell - you have been firmly in the CM world so far
There are no gapps packages to flash with this rom, when you flash you will be walked through installation options in the Aroma installer. Part of that is also which apps you want to install to /system (Google maps, Gmail etc).
No rom slots either - just partitions.
No need to wipe system - it's part of the installation process.
No need to wipe Dalvik/cache - it's the default in the Aroma installer
A factory reset in TWRP wipes the data partition except for /data/media/ and that should leave your user data intact. Naturally you will backup anyway before flashing, right?
And don't forget to make a nandroid of your old rom.
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LetMeKnow said:
You hold the power button + volume down to boot into the bootlooader menu. In the upper left corner, you can see your bootloader version.
A clean install is mean to wipe Dalvik, Cache, Data, and system. A factory reset is mean to wipe Dalvik, Cache, and data but during the Cromi x installation, a default setting is to wipe a system which are very much the same process. Yes, a kernel installer is a very similar process except it only has kernels and no others apps.
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Thanks!, I am already on the right edition so that's very good news for me haha.
berndblb said:
I can tell - you have been firmly in the CM world so far
There are no gapps packages to flash with this rom, when you flash you will be walked through installation options in the Aroma installer. Part of that is also which apps you want to install to /system (Google maps, Gmail etc).
No rom slots either - just partitions.
No need to wipe system - it's part of the installation process.
No need to wipe Dalvik/cache - it's the default in the Aroma installer
A factory reset in TWRP wipes the data partition except for /data/media/ and that should leave your user data intact. Naturally you will backup anyway before flashing, right?
And don't forget to make a nandroid of your old rom.
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haha yeah I have been mostly loyal to CM... ive also been on touchwiz, AOKP and some other random roms for some of my older phones but when CM 10.1 came out i just switched everything over (DROID, D2G, RAZR MAXX, XOOM, TF700)
but this is sounding pretty easy to me! i am very familiar with nandroid backups as i have a passion for messing with things i shouldnt mess with on my devices
random question: are kernels flashed when roms are flashed? so like does each different rom have its own kernel? (obviously some would use similar/same kernels)
another random question: I have a growing collection of old androids laying around and am not sure what to do with them? do you/anyone have any good uses/ideas to share? im sure i could look thru each devices subsection but as just a general thing. i obviously could use them for "ipods" but i have unlimited data still :good: and no battery life troubles, so streaming works great for me.
- i use my xoom as a kind of party device, with a locked down "user profile" to let people pick the music at parties (im in college at ole miss) or decide what to show on the tv etc so that has a little purpose but was wondering about other things.
-my OG droid mostly just sits in my drawer except for every once in awhile i give rooting it another shot (had same problem with xoom until i SBFed it so i think thats the solution) but it has an extended battery and runs well. same thing goes for my beloved D2G (when it isnt off as a temp phone with someone from my family of various friends)
any ideas??
and once again THANK YOU to everyone for the amazing/ super speedy help, im being sure to "thank" each and every one of you.
bschmidy10 said:
haha yeah I have been mostly loyal to CM... ive also been on touchwiz, AOKP and some other random roms for some of my older phones but when CM 10.1 came out i just switched everything over (DROID, D2G, RAZR MAXX, XOOM, TF700)
but this is sounding pretty easy to me! i am very familiar with nandroid backups as i have a passion for messing with things i shouldnt mess with on my devices
random question: are kernels flashed when roms are flashed? so like does each different rom have its own kernel? (obviously some would use similar/same kernels)
another random question: I have a growing collection of old androids laying around and am not sure what to do with them? do you/anyone have any good uses/ideas to share? im sure i could look thru each devices subsection but as just a general thing. i obviously could use them for "ipods" but i have unlimited data still :good: and no battery life troubles, so streaming works great for me.
- i use my xoom as a kind of party device, with a locked down "user profile" to let people pick the music at parties (im in college at ole miss) or decide what to show on the tv etc so that has a little purpose but was wondering about other things.
-my OG droid mostly just sits in my drawer except for every once in awhile i give rooting it another shot (had same problem with xoom until i SBFed it so i think thats the solution) but it has an extended battery and runs well. same thing goes for my beloved D2G (when it isnt off as a temp phone with someone from my family of various friends)
any ideas??
and once again THANK YOU to everyone for the amazing/ super speedy help, im being sure to "thank" each and every one of you.
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How is Cromi X treating you?
LetMeKnow said:
How is Cromi X treating you?
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currently installing now.... WOWED by the install process. unlike anything ive seen on android thus far. i have very high hopes that this will fix my problem of lag as my best guess was that it was caused by the I/O scheduling and this "fixes" that weak point.
if you have any thoughts regarding my previous post; please share!
ill edit this in a little bit once its installed and i play around a bit.
thanks again for all the help!
:good:
-b
AWESOME! its finally working how it should be!
super fast and clean. not a lot of customizing from what i see though :/
and its working fast for now even with the same I/O setup as before (interactive/cfq) but are there more performance options buried somewhere i just am not seeing?? or is that perhaps relating to a specific kernel i should have chosen? if thats the case, would you recommend the best kernel for me?? thanks so much for the help once again
bschmidy10 said:
currently installing now.... WOWED by the install process. unlike anything ive seen on android thus far. i have very high hopes that this will fix my problem of lag as my best guess was that it was caused by the I/O scheduling and this "fixes" that weak point.
if you have any thoughts regarding my previous post; please share!
ill edit this in a little bit once its installed and i play around a bit.
thanks again for all the help!
:good:
-b
AWESOME! its finally working how it should be!
super fast and clean. not a lot of customizing from what i see though :/
and its working fast for now even with the same I/O setup as before (interactive/cfq) but are there more performance options buried somewhere i just am not seeing?? or is that perhaps relating to a specific kernel i should have chosen? if thats the case, would you recommend the best kernel for me?? thanks so much for the help once again
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Yeah, the Aroma installer is slick
Cromi-X is based on the stock rom and supposed to have a "stock only much better' feel. So no, not that many options for customizing. I love pjc21's color mod - wouldn't live without it.
CM is about customizing, this one is about stability...
The kernel installer makes it easy to switch and try kernels (no wipes necessary).
I go for _that's v4 kernel because I crave and look for stability.
The two other most popular kernels for this tab are Max's and Hund's.
Max's runs great but supports only FAT32 formatted external cards. So you have to have movies (large files) on your internal.
Hund's probably has the most tweaking and OC options and seems to be loved by gamers. Just tends to run pretty hot.
I would recommend you browse the relevant threads in the development section to get an idea about them.
Your idea about exchanging ideas on how to make old Android devices useful is a great one and would warrant it's own thread. Would be kinda off-topic here and tough to find for anybody else.
Don't know where the best section would be on XDA, but I would love to brainstorm on that topic.
I'm using my old Droid 1 as a navigation device/music player in my car. On longer trips I use my current phone to create a hotspot and stream radio and provide internet connectivity for it. But the D1 lives in the car (and is old enough not to attract thieves - I hope).
My old Droid 4 lives in it's dock on the kitchen counter, is connected to Bluetooth speakers and functions as internet radio/music/picture streaming device/shopping list taker (in Evernote and synced to my other devices) and a quick "check something on the web" go-to.
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bschmidy10 said:
currently installing now.... WOWED by the install process. unlike anything ive seen on android thus far. i have very high hopes that this will fix my problem of lag as my best guess was that it was caused by the I/O scheduling and this "fixes" that weak point.
if you have any thoughts regarding my previous post; please share!
ill edit this in a little bit once its installed and i play around a bit.
thanks again for all the help!
:good:
-b
AWESOME! its finally working how it should be!
super fast and clean. not a lot of customizing from what i see though :/
and its working fast for now even with the same I/O setup as before (interactive/cfq) but are there more performance options buried somewhere i just am not seeing?? or is that perhaps relating to a specific kernel i should have chosen? if thats the case, would you recommend the best kernel for me?? thanks so much for the help once again
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It looks like that you like it so far with what you have. About the kernel, it would be depended what do you want to do with it or what do you want to use it for.. About the performance, you still can optimize them a little bit more to what you want to use it for most of the time.
berndblb said:
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Yeah, the Aroma installer is slick
Cromi-X is based on the stock rom and supposed to have a "stock only much better' feel. So no, not that many options for customizing. I love pjc21's color mod - wouldn't live without it.
CM is about customizing, this one is about stability...
The kernel installer makes it easy to switch and try kernels (no wipes necessary).
I go for _that's v4 kernel because I crave and look for stability.
The two other most popular kernels for this tab are Max's and Hund's.
Max's runs great but supports only FAT32 formatted external cards. So you have to have movies (large files) on your internal.
Hund's probably has the most tweaking and OC options and seems to be loved by gamers. Just tends to run pretty hot.
I would recommend you browse the relevant threads in the development section to get an idea about them.
Your idea about exchanging ideas on how to make old Android devices useful is a great one and would warrant it's own thread. Would be kinda off-topic here and tough to find for anybody else.
Don't know where the best section would be on XDA, but I would love to brainstorm on that topic.
I'm using my old Droid 1 as a navigation device/music player in my car. On longer trips I use my current phone to create a hotspot and stream radio and provide internet connectivity for it. But the D1 lives in the car (and is old enough not to attract thieves - I hope).
My old Droid 4 lives in it's dock on the kitchen counter, is connected to Bluetooth speakers and functions as internet radio/music/picture streaming device/shopping list taker (in Evernote and synced to my other devices) and a quick "check something on the web" go-to.
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Wow! thank you so much for all the help. im really liking the performance/stability. much more important than pretty colors haha. if this kernel (_that's v4) doesnt ever seem slow to me then it has my vote!.
you're absolutely right about this not being the right place to ask about alternate android uses... i will start a thread in the general android section? kind of confusing on where to put it...
those are great ideas though! thanks for the knowledge. ill look into mounting my D1 in my car somehow in a way to provide power to it constantly without looking ugly haha. although i assume ill just give up and use my razr maxx as there is no downside of losing battery life pains.. i wish i could just set these devices up somewhere and be able to control them from another device/location.. getting docks for phones with such small screens seems pointless especially when the key feature (having a slide out keyboard on the D1 and D2G) would require being taken off the dock anyways.
thanks again
-b
LetMeKnow said:
It looks like that you like it so far with what you have. About the kernel, it would be depended what do you want to do with it or what do you want to use it for.. About the performance, you still can optimize them a little bit more to what you want to use it for most of the time.
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regarding the kernel... i have no idea why the device is now running like butter being on the same settings as it was before the change in roms. i know roms change...well... everything.. but i thought pure performance was heavily related to the schedulers and other related settings having to do with the components.
what do you mean regarding the performance? is there a built in tweaking menu? or are you referring to the usual array of tweaking "apps" such as memory optimizing, seeder, set cpu..etc.?
thanks!
-b
bschmidy10 said:
regarding the kernel... i have no idea why the device is now running like butter being on the same settings as it was before the change in roms. i know roms change...well... everything.. but i thought pure performance was heavily related to the schedulers and other related settings having to do with the components.
what do you mean regarding the performance? is there a built in tweaking menu? or are you referring to the usual array of tweaking "apps" such as memory optimizing, seeder, set cpu..etc.?
thanks!
-b
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The reason it's running like butter is that sbdags & co optimized all the settings, schedulers etc with this hardware the Asus engineers missed.
Seeder causes issues with this rom, don't use it. And seriously - I doubt there is much left to improve on it.
Feel free to try - but I would make sure you have a nandroid if things go haywire. I think CROMi-X with your choice of kernel is as good as it gets on the TF700.
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berndblb said:
The reason it's running like butter is that sbdags & co optimized all the settings, schedulers etc with this hardware the Asus engineers missed.
Seeder causes issues with this rom, don't use it. And seriously - I doubt there is much left to improve on it.
Feel free to try - but I would make sure you have a nandroid if things go haywire. I think CROMi-X with your choice of kernel is as good as it gets on the TF700.
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i will heed your advice and not attempt to "optimize" it any farther than it already is. from the looks of things, luckily i wont have to!!
thanks for all the help from you and 'LetMeKnow'.
-b
bschmidy10;4470297berndblb7 said:
regarding the kernel... i have no idea why the device is now running like butter being on the same settings as it was before the change in roms. i know roms change...well... everything.. but i thought pure performance was heavily related to the schedulers and other related settings having to do with the components.
what do you mean regarding the performance? is there a built in tweaking menu? or are you referring to the usual array of tweaking "apps" such as memory optimizing, seeder, set cpu..etc.?
thanks!
-b
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If you read the post explaining by berndblb, Cromi x is already tweaked. Sbdags is very good in updating his rom with new tweaks to make the rom runnig as smooth as posible.. However, you still can optimize them the ways that you like.. Let me trying to answer your questions. For the performance, there is still room for you to get more out of it by optimize those tweaks from the rom and kernel. Second, I don't think there is a tweaking menu during installing except for the Fsync option. I personally like to disable the Fsync because it improves the speed a lot. Third, I don't like using tweaking apps as all. Sometime, they do more harm than good. If you really want to mess around with your device, you have to get dirty to dive deep in your system and play with it. With the custom rom and kernel, they have created a certain folders that you can modify the values that you like. However, you must back up your device before messing arounnd with your system. I have so many bootloops when I apply wrong tweaks but you can restore your back up and back running again without any problem. However, if you know the new tweaks that others are using without problems, then normally you are safe to use them. I hope that helps clear a few things for you..
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bschmidy10 said:
i will heed your advice and not attempt to "optimize" it any farther than it already is. from the looks of things, luckily i wont have to!!
thanks for all the help from you and 'LetMeKnow'.
-b
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We all are here to help each others out and glad that you are happy with your new set up..

Severe lag and lag issues

So, I know you're thinking that lag and the TF700 go together like water and wet and that what I'm reporting here is not news, but I had gotten to talking about the dismal user experience I get out of my tab on G+ and one of the other commenters insinuated that the lag I'm seeing is actually more than should be expected.
I'm actually pretty computer savvy, so I'd like to think that if there's a sofware issue that I can find it with guideance from the community. Let me know how I can gather logs and diagnostic info, and I'll gladly help out anyway I can.
Right now, I'm on CROMi-X 5.2a with _that's (whichever is the newer one) 1318 profile with fsync off, software rendering disabled, and none of the Asus bloat other than their snazzy video editor. I have a sh!t-ton of widgets because that's what homescreens are for, I generally leave the wi-fi off when it's asleep to conserve battery, and I roll Normal performance profile.
The machine has periods of really good performance punctuated by episodes of tremendous lag. When I say tremendous, I mean it takes so long to load most apps that the one-minute sleep timer has expired and the tab has gone to sleep before the app can finish loading. In many cases, it will be several minutes. Accessing the notifications tray is a twenty second ordeal before it appears on the screen. Wi-fi settings can take 60 seconds to load, so I'm hosed if I'm on the wrong network. And scrolling? Ya, right. More like swipe the screen, go get coffee, come back to see if it's moved.
I'm committed to replacing it with something that isn't awful, but I'm holding out for the new Nexus 10, as it sounds like nobody is willing to make a convertible Android tab that's worth a damn.
If I can't get it to work acceptably I'll probably try to join the ranks of testers.
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thefezzer said:
So, I know you're thinking that lag and the TF700 go together like water and wet and that what I'm reporting here is not news, but I had gotten to talking about the dismal user experience I get out of my tab on G+ and one of the other commenters insinuated that the lag I'm seeing is actually more than should be expected.
I'm actually pretty computer savvy, so I'd like to think that if there's a sofware issue that I can find it with guideance from the community. Let me know how I can gather logs and diagnostic info, and I'll gladly help out anyway I can.
Right now, I'm on CROMi-X 5.2a with _that's (whichever is the newer one) 1318 profile with fsync off, software rendering disabled, and none of the Asus bloat other than their snazzy video editor. I have a sh!t-ton of widgets because that's what homescreens are for, I generally leave the wi-fi off when it's asleep to conserve battery, and I roll Normal performance profile.
The machine has periods of really good performance punctuated by episodes of tremendous lag. When I say tremendous, I mean it takes so long to load most apps that the one-minute sleep timer has expired and the tab has gone to sleep before the app can finish loading. In many cases, it will be several minutes. Accessing the notifications tray is a twenty second ordeal before it appears on the screen. Wi-fi settings can take 60 seconds to load, so I'm hosed if I'm on the wrong network. And scrolling? Ya, right. More like swipe the screen, go get coffee, come back to see if it's moved.
I'm committed to replacing it with something that isn't awful, but I'm holding out for the new Nexus 10, as it sounds like nobody is willing to make a convertible Android tab that's worth a damn.
If I can't get it to work acceptably I'll probably try to join the ranks of testers.
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I believed that something must be wrong on your device. I have a very similar setup except that I am using Hund v3.4.2 ET v1.5 and not a themer. I did test _that v7 not too long ago and it was very reasonable speed so I don't think it is the culprit.. I did a quick test to open about 50 apps and games all together to check the timing. The longest loading app was about 15 seconds.. Most of them were about 5-8 seconds... About webpage loading, it is vary depending on what are there to load but it is definitely a lot quicker than 60 seconds. I am using the stock browser and br2ram and can load the xda website within 2-4 seconds on average with my wifi speedtest about 27MBps..
I am not an expert so I can not help you about the logs to troubleshoot your problems but you could try to use a different ROM and kernels to see if it helps.. You said that your device ran very good and got lags.
Did your device ran very fast when you first installed it and started getting more lags with time?
thefezzer said:
So, I know you're thinking that lag and the TF700 go together like water and wet and that what I'm reporting here is not news, but I had gotten to talking about the dismal user experience I get out of my tab on G+ and one of the other commenters insinuated that the lag I'm seeing is actually more than should be expected.
I'm actually pretty computer savvy, so I'd like to think that if there's a sofware issue that I can find it with guideance from the community. Let me know how I can gather logs and diagnostic info, and I'll gladly help out anyway I can.
Right now, I'm on CROMi-X 5.2a with _that's (whichever is the newer one) 1318 profile with fsync off, software rendering disabled, and none of the Asus bloat other than their snazzy video editor. I have a sh!t-ton of widgets because that's what homescreens are for, I generally leave the wi-fi off when it's asleep to conserve battery, and I roll Normal performance profile.
The machine has periods of really good performance punctuated by episodes of tremendous lag. When I say tremendous, I mean it takes so long to load most apps that the one-minute sleep timer has expired and the tab has gone to sleep before the app can finish loading. In many cases, it will be several minutes. Accessing the notifications tray is a twenty second ordeal before it appears on the screen. Wi-fi settings can take 60 seconds to load, so I'm hosed if I'm on the wrong network. And scrolling? Ya, right. More like swipe the screen, go get coffee, come back to see if it's moved.
I'm committed to replacing it with something that isn't awful, but I'm holding out for the new Nexus 10, as it sounds like nobody is willing to make a convertible Android tab that's worth a damn.
If I can't get it to work acceptably I'll probably try to join the ranks of testers.
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With that kind of a setup, I bet it is a PIA to do a clean install...
Which leads me to the question: When's the last time you did one?
The lag you describe is worse than most TF700s on stock and unheard of CROMi-X!
If you really want to get to the bottom of this, you have to invest a day where you start from scratch:
Backup everything in terms of data, make TiBu backups of your apps, use the backup function of your launcher etc., and make a nandroid of your current rom.
Then format /data in TWRP, and flash CROMi-X 5.2.2.
Choose to install a few apps in the installer like Dropbox, TiBu etc. Reboot to system, give the tab 10 minutes to settle, and check how it performs.
I am willing to bet that there's no lag whatsoever.
Then start restoring your apps and widgets a couple at a time and keep testing in between.
Once you find the culprit(s), it's decision time: Do you really want/need that cr*** that is causing even CROMi-X to lag??
If the answer is yes, then you'll just have to wait until you find a tablet that can handle your needs, I guess.
It's really a crap shoot if it's going to work well or not, but it seems like from the first time I flashed CROMi 5.04 from the newest OTA with 2.6.3.1 TWRP, the pattern has been this (prior to the upgrade, it did follow the start ok and get bad then stay bad pattern):
Flash kernel du jour and wipe dalvik + cache
Go do something useful to give it 20 minutes to settle, plugged in so it has wifi on
Start using it, have little lag
Set it aside, go do something with the day such as go to work
Get home, open the tab, swear profusely while I wait for it to wake up
Swear some more
Run Lagfix (or lately, the FStrim in Android Tuner Free is set to fire every boot, but run it anyway in case it's been too long since I've booted)
Buzz off for 10 minutes while it does its magic
Swear at the tablet becuase it still lags
Swear some more
Close it and curse the day I bought it
Come back the next day, ~40% chance it lags like a 80386 running Wing Commander III.
Every few days, I'll decide I must have flashed the wrong kernel or that I need to toggle software rendering.
These days, I'm still on TWRP 2.6.3.1, and I've used each of the CROMi's that have come out (totally not CROMi's fault, for sure, it was a very slim brick before I found that particular bottle of awesomesauce) with all of the kernels... until each one lags so hard I cry. Right now, I'm on _that's and I've had two consecutive sessions without noticeable lag. I love the thing when it's smooth, but the lurking monster of lag is just about to drive me batty. Sometimes, when I have lag, I'll put my engineer cap on and load CatLog to try to see if I can make sense of anything, but all of the errors seem unrelated. Also, the G+ commenter mentioned the microSD card issue, and I've had the card out of the device since. Maybe that's why I'm seeing less lag right now? Time will tell.
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In other words: You have been flashing one installation over the other, one kernel over the other without ever cleaning up?
I am surprised your tablet is not in a permanent bootloop!
John G right? Author of CROMi-X here and your commentor
Keep that sdcard out for a while for testing and also check settings of play store and make sure auto updates are not on.
If you are willing try a data wipe and install of 5.2.2 out yesterday with default settings and fsync off and see how you get on
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So, I know you're thinking that lag and the TF700 go together like water and wet and that what I'm reporting here is not news, but I had gotten to talking about the dismal user experience I get out of my tab on G+ and one of the other commenters insinuated that the lag I'm seeing is actually more than should be expected.
I'm actually pretty computer savvy, so I'd like to think that if there's a sofware issue that I can find it with guideance from the community. Let me know how I can gather logs and diagnostic info, and I'll gladly help out anyway I can.
Right now, I'm on CROMi-X 5.2a with _that's (whichever is the newer one) 1318 profile with fsync off, software rendering disabled, and none of the Asus bloat other than their snazzy video editor. I have a sh!t-ton of widgets because that's what homescreens are for, I generally leave the wi-fi off when it's asleep to conserve battery, and I roll Normal performance profile.
The machine has periods of really good performance punctuated by episodes of tremendous lag. When I say tremendous, I mean it takes so long to load most apps that the one-minute sleep timer has expired and the tab has gone to sleep before the app can finish loading. In many cases, it will be several minutes. Accessing the notifications tray is a twenty second ordeal before it appears on the screen. Wi-fi settings can take 60 seconds to load, so I'm hosed if I'm on the wrong network. And scrolling? Ya, right. More like swipe the screen, go get coffee, come back to see if it's moved.
I'm committed to replacing it with something that isn't awful, but I'm holding out for the new Nexus 10, as it sounds like nobody is willing to make a convertible Android tab that's worth a damn.
If I can't get it to work acceptably I'll probably try to join the ranks of testers.
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Upgrade to 5.2.2 and you will rejoice! //smile I'm using hunds modded with hot plug at 2-6-8 as the only setting change. Very smooth.
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One and the same. Someday, children will sing songs in your honor, sbdags. I've pulled the Class 2 SD card and it seems to have put the kabosh on the really extreme lag issues, which puts me back on pretty good standing. I do have auto-updates on right now, and I have (as the other commenter mentioned) been flashing just about every kernel in the CROMi-X packages pell-mell with only a dalvik/cache wipe. It sounds like that may have been a faux pas on my part?
So, this weekend I'm going to do the full monty, and do the wipe /data and business with the new 5.2.2. I will gladly take recommendations for which kernel and boot options I should use (I'm particularly suspicious of the disable software rendering switch, for instance).
For what it's worth, the user experience is rockstar right now, on par with my MBP I use at work.
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One and the same. Someday, children will sing songs in your honor, sbdags. I've pulled the Class 2 SD card and it seems to have put the kabosh on the really extreme lag issues, which puts me back on pretty good standing. I do have auto-updates on right now, and I have (as the other commenter mentioned) been flashing just about every kernel in the CROMi-X packages pell-mell with only a dalvik/cache wipe. It sounds like that may have been a faux pas on my part?
So, this weekend I'm going to do the full monty, and do the wipe /data and business with the new 5.2.2. I will gladly take recommendations for which kernel and boot options I should use (I'm particularly suspicious of the disable software rendering switch, for instance).
For what it's worth, the user experience is rockstar right now, on par with my MBP I use at work.
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I am glad that you see the improvement... The Cromi 5.2.2 is very fast and you will love it... If you really want to see your tablet flying, you should give Hund v3.4.2 + ET v1.5 a shot. Cromi X + Hund + ET = Fast & Furious... Let us know how it is when you have a chance testing these out...
Good luck...:fingers-crossed:
I'm really apprehensive about overvolting, as I like to use a Moko leatherette case that can hold the heat in. It does really well heat-wise with the _that's 1318 profile, and isn't laggy at all (well, it is atm, but it's doing the TiBu and that's understandable) with the SD card out. I may try hund's with it clocked down to 1.3 or 1.4 and see how that goes.
When I got home from work today, I opened it to find it was all lag-tastic. I rebooted it (it took - no bullsh!t - two minutes to shut down) and let it run a cycle of FStrim and it's auto updates, and it's been like butter since.
I've finished my backup, I'm ready to go download the ROM. I'll check back in here before taking the plunge.
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Ok, the download is done. I'm going to do it now. See you on the flipside.
CROMi-X 5.2.2 ODEX, for those keeping score at home.
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Would love to see your face once you got it installed :sly:
You'll love it!
That time...
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Ok, the download is done. I'm going to do it now. See you on the flipside.
CROMi-X 5.2.2 ODEX, for those keeping score at home.
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When you find out the hard way that the internal sd is on the data partition.
Sent from the stock browser because I cbf to install XDA.
So I think I hit the bug where I'm stuck on GMT time, but otherwise is really smooth. How do I change my time zone?
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So I think I hit the bug where I'm stuck on GMT time, but otherwise is really smooth. How do I change my time zone?
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Did you flash the ET edition on a clean install?
That's a bug. Flash the normal version first, then flash the ET and you can change the time zone.
So, I had done the clean install, but then I went and re-did the clean install. I booted into _that's long enough to change the timezone, rebooted, and then dropped Hund's 3.4.2 on it again. I went off to sleep on it and came back to really awesome performance.
I'm starting to really suspect that the Class 2 SD card was the core problem here, because I put it in the machine like the day I got it.
I'm going to go run a benchmark or two.
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So I've had a couple of use cycles with really good response. It gets a little warm, but I've clocked back to 1/1.4/1.8 and that seems to help out. I'm gradually replacing my apps (fresh dowloads natch, as I burned the backups when I wiped) and there's just a bit of lag while they install, but nothing unforgiveable.
The time zone is back how it should be. I've installed GEL, but I can't seem to enable the 'OK Google' feature. I'll give it a few days and report back my findings.
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So, I had done the clean install, but then I went and re-did the clean install. I booted into _that's long enough to change the timezone, rebooted, and then dropped Hund's 3.4.2 on it again. I went off to sleep on it and came back to really awesome performance.
I'm starting to really suspect that the Class 2 SD card was the core problem here, because I put it in the machine like the day I got it.
I'm going to go run a benchmark or two.
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Are you running Hund ET or just Hund? If you are running just Hund, I would recommannd to change your UV for both CPU/GPU... It will reduce heat and add more battery life...
I'm on Hund's ETs, and adjusting the profiles as mentioned above brought heat to acceptable levels without a compromise to experience. I'm shopping memory cards now, and it looks like the Samsung Pro line gets the most Eggs. Does anyone have experience with those?
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I'm on Hund's ETs, and adjusting the profiles as mentioned above brought heat to acceptable levels without a compromise to experience. I'm shopping memory cards now, and it looks like the Samsung Pro line gets the most Eggs. Does anyone have experience with those?
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I use a sandisk ultra uhs1 class 10 and never had any issues.

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